France - Charlie Hebdo Attack

[seek10]

_https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=7nXqxRbdzWk

Interesting video. At the beginning of the rally, Bibi is in second row and he sneaked into 1st row by minute 1 and by minute 4, people shouting Bibi.

 

[loreta]

I read in a news paper in Spanish this morning that the guy in the cocher store was in Madrid before going to France. So here in Spain they are trying to start to say that we have terrorists in the country. I am afraid that a false flag is imminent in Spain. It was the same when 9/11.They also said that Atta was in Spain before the attack on the towers. We had a false flag with dire consequences in 2003, just before the elections. We are having elections this year... also.

In Spanish:
_http://www.msn.com/es-es/noticias/internacional/el-yihadista-que-atac%C3%B3-el-super-de-par%C3%ADs-pas%C3%B3-el-fin-de-a%C3%B1o-en-madrid/ar-AA8byxh?ocid=UP97DHP

 

[anothermagyar]

I read in a news paper in Spanish this morning that the guy in the cocher store was in Madrid before going to France. So here in Spain they are trying to start to say that we have terrorists in the country. I am afraid that a false flag is imminent in Spain. It was the same when 9/11.They also said that Atta was in Spain before the attack on the towers. We had a false flag with dire consequences in 2003, just before the elections. We are having elections this year... also.

In Spanish:
_http://www.msn.com/es-es/noticias/internacional/el-yihadista-que-atac%C3%B3-el-super-de-par%C3%ADs-pas%C3%B3-el-fin-de-a%C3%B1o-en-madrid/ar-AA8byxh?ocid=UP97DHP

Nous sommes Sebastian Haffner...

 

[miguel angel]

I read in a news paper in Spanish this morning that the guy in the cocher store was in Madrid before going to France. So here in Spain they are trying to start to say that we have terrorists in the country. I am afraid that a false flag is imminent in Spain. It was the same when 9/11.They also said that Atta was in Spain before the attack on the towers. We had a false flag with dire consequences in 2003, just before the elections. We are having elections this year... also.

In Spanish:
_http://www.msn.com/es-es/noticias/internacional/el-yihadista-que-atac%C3%B3-el-super-de-par%C3%ADs-pas%C3%B3-el-fin-de-a%C3%B1o-en-madrid/ar-AA8byxh?ocid=UP97DHP

Just for the record, the Spanish "incident" was on 11 march 2004.

And I've just been watching the news on tv (Spanish Cuatro Channel) and they have said the terrorist came here to avoid coming via France (due to higher security on airport than in Spain) and to say good bye to his girlfriend (before going to Siria) or so I've understood. They've said explicitly he wasn't in contact with any terr-cell, so I guess the intention now will be to toughen the airport's security and similar places, osit.

 

[loreta]

Miguel Angel, I don't know why you said this article refers to a 2014 situation. They say, yes, that this man was in Madrid at the end of the year before coming to France. The article also talks about a new branch of Al-qaeda, named AQPA (A-qaeda in the arabian peninsula). It is from the newspaper today and it talks about the Charlie Hebdo situation, uniting both. They also say that this man had "contacts" with some people here, in Spain and that the police is looking who that can be. I put another link for the article.

What is sure is that in Spain since the Ley Mordaza (gag law?) the country is ready for anything.

_http://www.lavanguardia.com/internacional/20150115/54423644460/yihadista-ataco-super-paris-paso-fin-ano-madrid.html

 

[miguel angel]

I read in a news paper in Spanish this morning that the guy in the cocher store was in Madrid before going to France. So here in Spain they are trying to start to say that we have terrorists in the country. I am afraid that a false flag is imminent in Spain. It was the same when 9/11.They also said that Atta was in Spain before the attack on the towers. We had a false flag with dire consequences in 2003, just before the elections. We are having elections this year... also.

In Spanish:
_http://www.msn.com/es-es/noticias/internacional/el-yihadista-que-atac%C3%B3-el-super-de-par%C3%ADs-pas%C3%B3-el-fin-de-a%C3%B1o-en-madrid/ar-AA8byxh?ocid=UP97DHP

Hi Loreta, maybe I haven't explained myself correctly.

I meant that "the Spanish bombings (in Atocha)" were on 2004. You wrote 2003. I just wanted to clarify that and then I've started to write about today's news. And I've written 2004, not 2014. Not a big issue, though.

I think you've made a very good observation about we are having in Spain elections this year (municipals & generals), I hope we don't repeat history, but who knows.

 

[loreta]

I read in a news paper in Spanish this morning that the guy in the cocher store was in Madrid before going to France. So here in Spain they are trying to start to say that we have terrorists in the country. I am afraid that a false flag is imminent in Spain. It was the same when 9/11.They also said that Atta was in Spain before the attack on the towers. We had a false flag with dire consequences in 2003, just before the elections. We are having elections this year... also.

In Spanish:
_http://www.msn.com/es-es/noticias/internacional/el-yihadista-que-atac%C3%B3-el-super-de-par%C3%ADs-pas%C3%B3-el-fin-de-a%C3%B1o-en-madrid/ar-AA8byxh?ocid=UP97DHP

Hi Loreta, maybe I haven't explained myself correctly.

I meant that "the Spanish bombings (in Atocha)" were on 2004. You wrote 2003. I just wanted to clarify that and then I've started to write about today's news. And I've written 2004, not 2014. Not a big issue, though.

I think you've made a very good observation about we are having in Spain elections this year (municipals & generals), I hope we don't repeat history, but who knows.

You are right Miguel Angel, I was wrong about the date of the Atocha attack. Thanks. :)

People don't have a very good memory... So that's why history repeats itself.

I was listening to the radio today, Spanish one.... My god.

 

[MK Scarlett]

The most disgusting thing I heard on yesterday about Charlie case comes from French Government, and directly from the Minister for Education, of Higher education and Research, aka Najat Vallaud-Belkacem. See here for her Wikipedia (which is not updtaed whit her last mandate, the one above).

_http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2eq965_najat-vallaud-belkacem-l-ecole-est-en-premiere-ligne-elle-sera-ferme_news
In this video she's talking (I think it was on yesterday) about "incidents" in several schools about this "minute of silence" which was asked by herself to be follow in every public schools/universities... She sent a letter to them.
She talks about some teachers who were disagree to uphold this minute thing and also all these students and pupils asking questions which would not be asked. She says that several of those incidents led to police investigations.

The school is on the first line, it [the school] will be rude to sanction, create educational dialogue [...] Even where there was no incidents, they were too many questions coming from the pupils/students and we all heard:
"Yes, I support Charlie, but...
"The double standard of the free speech...
"Why defend free speach here and not there...
Those questions are unacceptable for us especially when we hear them at school which is in charge to spread out values and we have to question ourselves on our ability to do so...

How disgusting this is.

And it looks like it is becoming a rule/law, already...
See here:
_http://www.ouest-france.fr/charlie-hebdo-pas-de-minute-de-silence-3-agents-municipaux-sanctionnes-3116568
Charlie Hebdo. Pas de minute de silence, 3 agents municipaux sanctionnés
Translation: No minute of silence, three municipal officers punished

I was to the market on this morning and I learnt that there was a suspicious package and dozen of cops were there 20 minutes before I am outside. I also learnt that at the beginning of the week, in one of the shop of the city center, the workers were afraid my people looking inside from outside, so they closed the shop and called the police. This is what is happening right now here. Incredible and so predictable in a same way.

I am upset and I feel stressed and sad.

And now this Belgium case: _http://www.dreuz.info/2015/01/alerte-info-attentat-terroriste-en-belgique-3-morts/
Alerte info : attentat terroriste évité à Verviers en Belgique : 3 morts
Translation: Alert info: terrorist attack prevented in Verviers in Belgium: 3 dead

I do not see why this would stop, the train is on its way and full of charcoal!

Edit: clarity

 

[loreta]

The most disgusting thing I heard on yesterday about Charlie case comes from French Government, and directly from the Minister for Education, of Higher education and Research, aka Najat Vallaud-Belkacem. See here for her Wikipedia (which is not updtaed whit her last mandate, the one above).

_http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2eq965_najat-vallaud-belkacem-l-ecole-est-en-premiere-ligne-elle-sera-ferme_news
In this video she's talking (I think it was on yesterday) about "incidents" in several schools about this "minute of silence" which was asked by herself to be follow in every public schools/universities... She sent a letter to them.
She talks about some teachers who were disagree to uphold this minute thing and also all these students and pupils asking questions which would not be asked. She says that several of those incidents led to police investigations.

The school is on the first line, it [the school] will be rude to sanction, create educational dialogue [...] Even where there was no incidents, they were too many questions coming from the pupils/students and we all heard:
"Yes, I support Charlie, but...
"The double standard of the free speech...
"Why defend free speach here and not there...
Those questions are unacceptable for us especially when we hear them at school which is in charge to spread out values and we have to question ourselves on our ability to do so...

How disgusting this is.

And it looks like it is becoming a rule/law, already...
See here:
_http://www.ouest-france.fr/charlie-hebdo-pas-de-minute-de-silence-3-agents-municipaux-sanctionnes-3116568
Charlie Hebdo. Pas de minute de silence, 3 agents municipaux sanctionnés
Translation: No minute of silence, three municipal officers punished

I was to the market on this morning and I learnt that there was a suspicious package and dozen of cops were there 20 minutes before I am outside. I also learnt that at the beginning of the week, in one of the shop of the city center, the workers were afraid my people looking inside from outside, so they closed the shop and called the police. This is what is happening right now here. Incredible and so predictable in a same way.

I am upset and I feel stressed and sad.

And now this Belgium case: _http://www.dreuz.info/2015/01/alerte-info-attentat-terroriste-en-belgique-3-morts/
Alerte info : attentat terroriste évité à Verviers en Belgique : 3 morts
Translation: Alert info: terrorist attack prevented in Verviers in Belgium: 3 dead

I do not see why this would stop, the train is on its way and full of charcoal!

Edit: clarity

This is incredible MK Scarlett, incredible even is not the good word. Astounding! This is very, very, very sad. Depressing. I understand your sadness. I am sad myself because this is coming everywhere and in Spain very soon. This is Middle Age darkness. They were ready. We can see all this and what is coming was orchestrated well in advance. Everything. Till minute one. Like a script. But not just in France. It is a global script. And everything is controlled: media, pictures, discourses, everything.

 

[Siberia]

A good article on RT: Terrorism in Africa: A bigger threat than in Europe, but much less coverage.

The more such articles, the better: RT has millions of readers, hope that Russia will pay more attention to this subject.

 

[angelburst29]

_https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=7nXqxRbdzWk

Interesting video. At the beginning of the rally, Bibi is in second row and he sneaked into 1st row by minute 1 and by minute 4, people shouting Bibi.

I get the impression that Bibi used the Unity Rally like a big PR stunt, giving appearance, that everyone backs him and the State of Israel? Seems, he's facing some problems back home, especially with regards to the European countries’ increasing willingness to recognize the state of Palestine.

Political tsunami awaits Israel in 2015: Report
http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2015/01/13/392962/Political-tsunami-awaits-Israel-in-2015

Tue Jan 13, 2015 Israel’s Foreign Ministry has warned that the Tel Aviv regime is in for a "political tsunami" in 2015 in its diplomacy particularly with regard to the much-awaited recognition of the Palestinian state.

According to a classified document released by Israel’s Foreign Ministry on Tuesday, the current year will be the worst for the Zionist regime in terms of political pressure.

The document, bearing the signature of the ministry's deputy director general for coordination, Gilad Cohen, warns that a “political tsunami” is awaiting Israel in 2015 especially with regards to the European countries’ increasing willingness to recognize the state of Palestine.

The document has also cited the ongoing campaign for the boycott of business with Israel as a real cause of concern for the regime, warning that the rise of far-right and extreme leftist political parties in Europe will spell an end to the European countries’ honeymoon with Israel.

It has also expressed serious concern about the United States’ potential endorsement of the Palestinian bid for statehood at the United Nations Security Council.

The classified document, details of which were published by Israeli daily Yedioth Ahronoth, also predicts that Iran and six world powers could reach a final agreement on the Islamic Republic’s nuclear program in the first half of 2015 - to the dismay of Israel.

It also highlights the growing military capabilities of resistance groups in the Middle East, including Hamas and Hezbollah, saying that would pose serious threats to the existence of Israel.

 

[loreta]

Maybe one of the reason of this last attack in France is this talking about jews. Look at this:

Europe’s Leading Rabbi: Jews Must Begin Carrying Guns

One of Europe’s most prominent Jewish organizations is petitioning the European Union to pass new legislation that would permit Jewish community members to carry guns “for the essential protection of their communities,” according to a letter obtained by the Washington Free Beacon.

The European Jewish Association (EJA), which represents Jewish communities across Europe, says that gun license laws must be altered following a string of deadly attacks on Jews in France and other European countries, where anti-Semitism has been growing at an alarming rate.

The recent attacks, including one on a Kosher market that killed four, “have revealed the urgent need to stop talking and start acting” in a way that empowers Europe’s Jews, according to a letter sent Tuesday by EJA General Director Rabbi Menachem Margolin to EU leaders.

The EU, which has enacted very stringent gun control laws, should empower and train Jews to be proficient with guns in order to maintain their safety, according to Margolin.

“The Paris attacks, as well as the many challenges and threats which have been presented to the European Jewish community in recent years, have revealed the urgent need to stop talking and start acting,” Margolin writes.

“We hereby ask that gun licensing laws are reviewed with immediate effect to allow designated people in the Jewish communities and institutions to own weapons for the essential protection of their communities, as well as receiving the necessary training to protect their members from potential terror attacks.”

Margolin told the Free Beacon that he and the EJA have been warning for “a very long time” that anti-Semitism is growing in Europe and that it poses a direct threat to the continent’s Jewish population.

There has been a “dramatic increase of anti-Semitism in Europe,” Margolin said in a telephone interview on Wednesday. “We demanded from the European governments some time ago that action should be taken [and] were not surprised to see the results in Paris.”

Many Jews are living in fear and have shunned popular community outposts such as synagogues and kosher markets out of fear of an attack like that in Paris.

“Many people today are not coming to synagogue because of the issue and they’d be more comfortable if they knew people were trained to react in an emergency,” Margolin said.

Attacks against Jews have been on the rise, as neo-Nazi parties and other anti-Semitic organizations gain a foothold in some European nations. However, the growth of anti-Semitism has not always been acknowledged by leaders.

“We need to recognize the warning signs of anti-Semitism, racism, and intolerance that once again threaten Europe and our European ideals,” Margolin wrote in his letter to the EU.

The situation cannot continue as it is, Margolin insisted.

Jewish community representatives should be armed and on guard at Kosher markets and synagogues, he said.

“We realize that we also have to do something to take responsibility in case it takes too long” for authorities to put the proper defenses into place, Margolin explained.

This would include stationing armed Jewish community members at popular hubs.

Meanwhile, extremists who have travelled to countries such as Syria, where they train alongside the Islamic State and other terror groups, are now returning home to Europe, where they pose a direct threat to Jews, according to the letter

“The European Jewish Association has long and publicly warned European governments of the need to clamp down firmly on any and all acts of terror wherever and whenever they arise,” the letter says. “As you know, the danger is that much greater as many Europeans travel abroad to be indoctrinated into radical Islam, before returning to their European homelands to use their militant training to devastating effect.”

Any changes to the gun laws can be made in a safe and effective way, Margolin argues.

“Let there be no doubt, we are asking that all weapons will be issued for self-protection only, and to designated personnel that will undergo thorough investigation and training by local authorities,” he wrote.

Margolin said that he is currently in negotiations with EU leaders to relax certain gun restrictions, though some remain hesitant to do so.

“Some people are afraid it might bring the situation to be uncontrolled,” he said, noting that negotiations on the matter would include ways to ensure Jewish community members are properly trained to use weapons.

Rabbi Abraham Cooper, associate dean of the Simon Wiesenthal Center, said that while guns could help Jews defend themselves against an individual attack, only authorities can protect them against a mass attack like those carried out in France.

“As to personally being armed, such a move could help when a Jewish person is threatened by thugs, but won’t help if G-d forbid, Charlie-type terror attacks are launched,” Cooper said.

“Bottom line: Only the Police and intelligence can protect France’s Jews from terrorism,” Cooper said, noting that it is expected French authorities will continue boosting defenses. “If the government doesn’t, then there is no long range future for Jews there.”

“In the meantime, additional steps by the community to train and defend Jews from hate attacks are appropriate, necessary, and prudent,” Cooper said. “I pray that all these steps will help.”

http://freebeacon.com/national-security/europes-leading-rabbi-jews-must-begin-carrying-guns/

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[l apprenti de forgeron]

It seems that the next video (not new) is becoming viral in internet, as a defense against anti-Muslim attacks:

Reza Aslan Slams Bill Maher for Facile Arguments’ About Muslim Violence
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzusSqcotDw&hd=1

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[Tigersoap]

What I gather from the latest news, is that we are at "war" now, which gives all the necessary conditions & reasons for a stronger police state.
The fear trigger is switched on and on so people will beg for an armed solution and an overt control of the population.
The right wings extremists are drumming up the anger against Islam in a told you so manner.
All of Europe is descending into madness pretty fast.

 

[Mahael859]

What I gather from the latest news, is that we are at "war" now, which gives all the necessary conditions & reasons for a stronger police state.
The fear trigger is switched on and on so people will beg for an armed solution and an overt control of the population.
The right wings extremists are drumming up the anger against Islam in a told you so manner.
All of Europe is descending into madness pretty fast.

The news here in Italy and the extreme right wing are also spicing up their rhetoric with latest events. Radio shows are packed with people willing to give up their freedom on the internet etc to fight the terror treat.
Also a lot of people buying into the "Je suis Charlie" emotional hook whitout asking any kind of questions, I feel lucky that my close friends, at least, are challenging the mainstream version of the facts cause in the beginning I felt really alone on that.
Two days before this all madness begun I felt really grumpy (not sure though if it's connected), then enraged about the media manipulation, after really sad about how easily we all grown and fall into different illusions.
That gave me a great kick to start sharing my take on the current events on the social media which I never used before this way due to my niceaholic tendency and fear to be "unfriended".
Right now I don't care, better to discover who your real friends are before TSHTF.
There was also the abduction of two italian girls who went to Syria to join the rebels :head bash: to upping the tension on the easily moved italian's emotional centers... Yesterday they've been sent back home (hmm....) really suspect.
Let's see how the events unfold but the signs are not good at all and I expect a lot more happening soon, looks like being in the scene of V for vendetta when all the dominoes pieces are starting to fall.