France - Charlie Hebdo Attack

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RT is reporting that those in the shop are demanding the release of the 'two brothers' from the printing works, and that the shop is in a Jewish district.
Not sure if it'll be shown again but I did catch the end of an interview (part of there live coverage of the events in Paris) on RT in which Operation Gladio and NATO involvement was mentioned in these events. The presenter found it rather controversial, which is why I'm not expecting it to show up again.
 
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Well, isn't this interesting!

_http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/paris-attacks-armed-gunman-takes-hostage-in-kosher-grocery-shop-in-east-of-city-9967968.html?cmpid=facebook-post%3Fcmpid%3Dfacebook-post



An armed gunman, suspected to be the same assailant who who killed a policewoman on Thursday, has taken several hostages and is believed to have shot two people in a Jewish grocery shop in the east of [color=rgb(51, 51, 51) !important]Paris[/color].

Five hostages, including children, are being held in Kosher grocery Hyper Cacher off from at Rue Albert Willemetz, a side street off the main Porte de Vincennes boulevard, a police source confirmed to The Independent. At least one shop employee had escaped, he said.
There are also unconfirmed reports that the gunman, thought to be 32-year-old Amedy Coulibaly, has reportedly threatened to kill the hostages if police storm the building with the Kouachi brothers inside. The two suspects are also thought to have a hostage.
The man, who is reportedly armed with two Kalashnikov rifles, is said to have told police officers: "You know who I am."
The latest reported information comes as Radio Europe 1 claimed a daughter had received a call from her mother, telling her: "I am in the shop, I love you."
The background of the four individuals named by police is under increasing scrutiny as details slowly emerge.
Coulibaly's girlfriend Hayat Boumedienne, 26, has also be named by police as a person of interest. It is believed that Ms Boumedienne attended a suspected jihadist training camp in Cantal, a mountainous area of central France.
26-year-old Hayat Boumeddiene and 32-year-old Amedy CoulibalyOthers present at the camp included Cherif Kouachi, who is one of the suspected gunman in the horrific Charlie Hebdo massacre. Both were questioned by French security at the time but released for lack of evidence.
A French newsweekly L'Orbs has claimed that Coulibaly and Cherif Kouachi may have met between 2005 and 2006, when both served jail sentences at the notoriously overcrowded Fleury-Mérogis prison, south of Paris.
Police vans on Cours de Vincenneshttps://t.co/OQSHAtRo7k— Tim Chester (@timchester) January 9, 2015</blockquote>
Unconfirmed reports that two people may have been killed by the gunman, with witnesses claiming that the shooting lasted 20 seconds.
An eyewitness to the Vincennes hostage-taking told Europe 1radio: “People were buying things when a man came in with a rifle and started shooting in all directions. I ran out. The shooting continued for several seconds.”

Maybe the assailant is the same person as the killer of the 11 french or maybe he's not. If he's not, I'm almost wondering if they've programmed a bunch of people in major cities all around the world to blow up once they it becomes politically advantageous to beam the right signal into their skulls. :rolleyes:
 
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whitecoast said:
Maybe the assailant is the same person as the killer of the 11 french or maybe he's not.
Apparently, he was NOT implicated in the slaughter.
_http://www.lemonde.fr/societe/article/2015/01/09/fusillade-de-montrouge-suspect-identifie-deux-nouvelles-interpellations_4552503_3224.html

(Of course, if and only if we can rely on what is said officially...)

If he's not, I'm almost wondering if they've programmed a bunch of people in major cities all around the world to blow up once they it becomes politically advantageous to beam the right signal into their skulls. :rolleyes: [/size]
That's not necessary, if they're related (according to the media, one of the brothers and the new gunman met each other during a trial, and used to go to the same mosque.)
 
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Well apparently the Hebdo suspects came out firing and are now dead, the other hostage taker is also dead, what a surprise!
I'll guess we'll see what the narrative does now. My guess based on past narratives - fear, hatred, social division, 'security'.
 
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At least three loud explosions and gunfire were reported at the site of the hostage standoff north of Paris today, as French security forces launched what appeared to be an assault on the premises where authorities said two terrorist suspects -- the Kouachi brothers -- were believed to be holed up.

The brothers are suspected of killing 12 people in and around the provocative satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo in Paris this week.

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Police are escorting people from the kosher market in eastern Paris where authorities said hostages were being held, CNN's Saskya Vandoorne reports from the scene. This comes after explosions and gunfire could be heard at the site. CNN affiliate BFMTV reports police had launched an assault on the store.

At about the same time, three loud explosions and gunfire were reported at the site of another hostage standoff north of Paris, as French security forces launched what appeared to be an assault on the premises where authorities said two terrorist suspects -- the Kouachi brothers -- were believed to be holed up.

The brothers are suspected of killing 12 people in and around the provocative satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo in Paris this week.

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The Kouachi brothers have been killed in an operation by security forces, the mayor of Othis, France, Bernard Corneille, told CNN. Police have said Cherif Kouachi, 32, and Said Kouachi, 34, were suspects in Wednesday's Charlie Hebdo massacre in Paris.

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http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/01/charlie-hebdo-suspects-killed-report/

Two men suspected of murder 12 people in Paris during an attack on the satirical weekly Charlie Hebdo have been killed, according to the AFP.

The brothers, Cherif and Said Kouachi, were holed up at a small printing business in Dammartin-en-Goele, a small French town near Paris, and had taken an employee hostage.

The suspects “came out firing on security forces” after being surrounded, the AFP reported.

The hostage was reportedly freed and safe.

Police also killed a gunman who opened fire on a Jewish supermarket in eastern Paris and then took at least five hostages. Two people were killed in the initial attack. It is unclear if any other hostages were harmed.
 
Maybe related, or unrelated:

_http://rt.com/news/221255-montpellier-jewelery-hostage-france/

Hostages have reportedly been taken in a jewellery store in Montpellier, Southern France. The new incident is evolving shortly after hostages were freed in Paris and Charlie Hebdo suspects killed in Northern France.

According to the media, two people are being held in a shop in the center of the city. The police have surrounded the area.

There is no precise information yet about the siege. However, the media report it could be an attempted robbery which turned into hostage taking.

First tweets are from 6 pm (1 hour ago)
 
So, as a number of us expected, or predicted, they've gone and killed the two, who mysteriously escaped pursuit in central Paris, in broad daylight. And with them conveniently goes any chance of knowing the whole story, outside the official meme banter in the mainstream news. And as usual, this incident is timed to possibly be a political message, to the French government, for support of ending sanctions on Putin, or support of a Palestinian state...essentially, having broken with the power cartel. Or it's a lead to further the police state, all the above, or possibly some other issues that I'm not aware of. The point is, it feels like a false flag operation, the message has been sent and it's going to be used in many ways that don't serve the international public, but do serve rogue power groups.

Am I jumping the gun? I personally try to keep these judgements on the back burner and leave them there. After all, we don't 'know' enough to make a definitive statement on it. But, in this culture, who has enough information to be definitive of anything? Though, the dots that are coming to light, do seem to fit into the usual vague picture and that picture appears definitively ugly.
 
Hi,

I cannot stop thinking about the last threath from Netanyahou, directly adressed to France in last November about the recognition of a Palestinian state:

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"la reconnaissance d'un État palestinien par la France serait une grave erreur"
Mise en garde de Netanyahou : « la reconnaissance d'un État palestinien par la France serait une grave erreur »

Translation: Caution Netanyahu: "the recognition of a Palestinian state by France would be a serious mistake"

Indeed. And when I heard about the identity card being in the car, it reminded me September 11 when personal stuffs were found in a car. I vote for a Mossad project in relation with the French secret service for plannification.
 
mum-didi said:
Hi,

I cannot stop thinking about the last threath from Netanyahou, directly adressed to France in last November about the recognition of a Palestinian state:

Citer
"la reconnaissance d'un État palestinien par la France serait une grave erreur"
Mise en garde de Netanyahou : « la reconnaissance d'un État palestinien par la France serait une grave erreur »

Translation: Caution Netanyahu: "the recognition of a Palestinian state by France would be a serious mistake"

Indeed. And when I heard about the identity card being in the car, it reminded me September 11 when personal stuffs were found in a car. I vote for a Mossad project in relation with the French secret service for plannification.

It's likely that part of the French secret service and their assets within the police were both informed and willing participants in this attack, also when you consider this:


Ellipse said:
5/ The police was unreachable during the assault
Il a aperçu deux personnes armées de kalachnikov qui demandaient 'C'est où Charlie Hebdo ?' Mon collègue est remonté en courant. Nous nous sommes barricadés et nous avons essayé d'appeler la police, mais ils étaient injoignables, c'était hallucinant. - Une journaliste de Première Ligne qui a souhaité rester anonyme
In "L'OBS" (_http://tempsreel.nouvelobs.com/charlie-hebdo/20150107.OBS9459/charlie-hebdo-ils-ont-vecu-l-attaque-ils-racontent.html)
 
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RedFox said:
Well apparently the Hebdo suspects came out firing and are now dead, the other hostage taker is also dead, what a surprise!
I'll guess we'll see what the narrative does now. My guess based on past narratives - fear, hatred, social division, 'security'.

Came out firing and hit no one apparently, even with their rocket launcher. Weird the way these two professional soldiers totally lost their skillz when it came to a fight with the police.
 
It was all over the news here even as a live report like as if an order was given to broadcast it.
There was even picture in picture on other channels so that if you would prefer to watch something else you would unwillingly watch also the live drama.
Of course it was staged. Else they would not spread it all over the news so religiously. This is just so obvious like the other staged events. It gets rather annoying.
 
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Perceval said:
RedFox said:
Well apparently the Hebdo suspects came out firing and are now dead, the other hostage taker is also dead, what a surprise!
I'll guess we'll see what the narrative does now. My guess based on past narratives - fear, hatred, social division, 'security'.

Came out firing and hit no one apparently, even with their rocket launcher. Weird the way these two professional soldiers totally lost their skillz when it came to a fight with the police.

Good point! From experts in military action, they have become amateurs. Strange! Can people see all this? It is true, they are so afraid....

About the id card found miraculously, I remember also when the trains attack in Madrid they "found" in a van just outside the station a Koran. Another miracle.
 
According to it's reported on French daily Le Parisien, deputy director of the judicial police of the district of Limoges (Haute - Comes) district of Paris where the incident occurred, "committed suicide" in his office with two shots to the temple the night of Wednesday to Thursdays. It seems very strange, to say "well timed" this suicide, maybe was not quite agree with this "macabre assembly" and someone within the police silenced with two shots in the temple, in the office.

Source: .....http://www.leparisien.fr/limousin/limoges-un-commissaire-de-police-se-suicide-avec-son-arme-08-01-2015-4429569.php
 
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Perceval said:
RedFox said:
Well apparently the Hebdo suspects came out firing and are now dead, the other hostage taker is also dead, what a surprise!
I'll guess we'll see what the narrative does now. My guess based on past narratives - fear, hatred, social division, 'security'.

Came out firing and hit no one apparently, even with their rocket launcher. Weird the way these two professional soldiers totally lost their skillz when it came to a fight with the police.

Yup! If they where the same 'professionals' the fire-fight would have gone on for hours and the number of French casualties would be pretty high!

I was reminded of a scene in the film F/X The Deadly Art of Illusion (or it's sequel). Near the end the hero uses glue on an empty gun and shoves the villain out of the front door to the waiting cops. He get's shot because he's holding a gun and can't drop it.
 
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Perceval said:
Came out firing and hit no one apparently, even with their rocket launcher. Weird the way these two professional soldiers totally lost their skillz when it came to a fight with the police.
Well, (supposing that the dead men were the murderers of the policeman in the video, and that they were "professional warriors") maybe the French "SWAT" teams used some EMF weaponery (psychotronics), to get them mad...

For instance :
_http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn7077
 

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