France - Charlie Hebdo Attack

Keit said:

Interesting. A couple of days ago, I saw a low quality closeup of that clip thinking that the smoke coming out of the gunshot was added to the video as it wasn't aligned with the gun itself. But this video shows how the 'terrorist' shot to the front side of the policeman and the smoke comes from the bullet bouncing from the floor.

But then, the question remains, what happened to the policeman?
 
Eboard10 said:
But then, the question remains, what happened to the policeman?

His name is Ahmed Merabet

_http://uk.businessinsider.com/ahmed-merabet-the-muslim-police-officer-killed-in-charlie-hebdo-shooting-2015-1?r=US

_http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/charlie-hebdo-muslim-police-officer-killed-in-paris-attack-commemorated-with-jesuisahmed-9966891.html

If he wasn't shot, the SC video is interesting, what really happened to him indeed ? was he part of the whole operation ?
 
Oh dear, 'Hoaxism' has got to SCG too.

What if Merabet wasn't shot in the head, as everyone assumes, but somewhere in the upper body?
 
SCG, whatever. None of these people are serious. When I saw the video of the shooting of Merabet a few days ago, my first question was, "who says he was shot in the head?" Someone just pulled that out of thin air and ran with it. It's pretty obvious his head WASN'T hit, since it does not move, so why go from there to him not being shot at all? Aren't there other parts of his body close to his head??

To me, the way his body slumps suggests he was shot in upper back/side area, depending on the trajectory of the bullet. If you look closely, you can even see the front of his vest or shirt moving outwards. At that close range, a bullet would pass through, possibly being deviated by bone structure, and hit the side walk on the other side, again, dependent on angle of entry.

If that cop wasn't shot, if the bullet hit the sidewalk, then case closed! Right? No more needs to said. The cop was "in on it" and is now hiding out somewhere, or getting plastic surgery. His family, who just gave a tearful press conference, are all "in on it" too. What great actors they all are. But wait! That suggests the WHOLE THING was staged, so include all the Charlie Hebdo people and the Kosher Jews as heading for the plastic surgeon's office, and all the eyewitnesses and families giving great ACTING performances to the media. Make sure you throw in the gas station owner (actor), the print shop owner (actor) and lots of cops, for good measure (all actors!) :scared:
 
Niall said:
Oh dear, 'Hoaxism' has got to SCG too.

What if Merabet wasn't shot in the head, as everyone assumes, but somewhere in the upper body?

Yes, that's also a possibility, it's hard to see from that angle.

An article was published on the International Business Time by Gopi Chandra Kharel suggesting the possibility of it being a Mossad operation but it was immediately taken off the site. However, the article is still available on the site's archive:

_https://web.archive.org/web/20150108131316/http://www.ibtimes.co.in/charlie-hebdo-attack-mossad-link-israel-venting-its-fury-frances-recognition-palestine-state-619692

A French article also questions the claim that the attackers were Muslims as they pronounced the word of Mohammed incorrectly.
_http://www.alterinfo.net/Attentat-terroriste-a-Paris-Le-Mossad-a-t-il-exauce-les-voeux-de-Charlie-Hebdo_a109415.html
Si les responsables de cet acte odieux étaient musulmans comme le laisse croire d’une même voix toute la presse, comment expliquer que des individus qui prétendent venger l’honneur du prophète ne puissent prononcer son nom correctement ?
MAHOMET ou MOHAMMAD ?
Mohammad : celui qui est loué, louangé, le béni
Mahomet : appellation juive dérivant de « Ma houmid » qui signifie explicitement « le Non Béni » « l’Exécré »

My translation: If those responsible for this odious act were Muslims, like the media leads us to believe, how come the individuals that pretend to avenge the honour of the prophet aren't able to pronounce his name correctly? Mahomet or Mohammad?
Mohammad: the one who is praised, blessed
Mahomet: Jewish designation deriving from "Ma houmid" that explicitly means "the Non Blessed", "Loathed".
 
Eboard10 said:
My translation: If those responsible for this odious act were Muslims, like the media leads us to believe, how come the individuals that pretend to avenge the honour of the prophet aren't able to pronounce his name correctly? Mahomet or Mohammad?
Mohammad: the one who is praised, blessed
Mahomet: Jewish designation deriving from "Ma houmid" that explicitly means "the Non Blessed", "Loathed".

Case in point. Attached is an audio recording of what the guy said. So who's going to assert conclusively that he said "Mahomet" and not "Mohammad"? To me, it sounds much more like "Mohammad" than "Mahomet"
 

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Eboard10 said:
My translation: If those responsible for this odious act were Muslims, like the media leads us to believe, how come the individuals that pretend to avenge the honour of the prophet aren't able to pronounce his name correctly? Mahomet or Mohammad?
Mohammad: the one who is praised, blessed
Mahomet: Jewish designation deriving from "Ma houmid" that explicitly means "the Non Blessed", "Loathed".

Case in point. Attached is an audio recording of what the guy said. So who's going to assert conclusively that he said "Mahomet" and not "Mohammad"? To me, it sounds much more like "Mohammad" than "Mahomet"

Yes, it's hard to discern what he says and I would also venture to say that it sounds more like he shouted Mohammad.
 
I see lot of pencil art popped up after this incident on twitter. I am suspecting that they prepped it in advance. tracing back is little tricky.
 
The youtuber remarks a few strange things:
There is the first cop who enters (to the right) with a shield, the others fire from the front.
He remarks the exceptional resistance of the "hostage taker" to the bullets and the grenades.
He the asks: At whom are all these cops shooting? And he doesn't shoot.
But the most shocking is that the hostage taker seems to have his hand tied.
 
Approaching Infinity said:
Can a French speaker take a look at this video and tell us what they're saying about the clip? It's the final moments at the kosher store.


They're basically saying that his hands are tied.

We noticed this last night although its hard to say for sure that his hands ARE tied. He also seems to jump just as he reaches the door (bullets from small arms don't make you fly forwards into the air like that).

Not sure what to make of it. Supposedly this is Coulibaly, whose body was pictured outside on the pavement later (see attached) but why were his hands tied (IF they were)?
 

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Zee Ley said:
Nice! This video now is too "shocking" for Youtube.

You can see it here without the text that the guy laid over it, which was him basically suggesting that the guys hands were tied when he came running out and was shot. You can pause at that point and move it forward slowly to see what he's talking about.

_http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2ef34z_assaut-final-du-raid-au-hyper-cacher_creation
 
Perceval said:
Zee Ley said:
Nice! This video now is too "shocking" for Youtube.

You can see it here without the text that the guy laid over it, which was him basically suggesting that the guys hands were tied when he came running out and was shot. You can pause at that point and move it forward slowly to see what he's talking about.

_http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2ef34z_assaut-final-du-raid-au-hyper-cacher_creation

Thanks!

And there is one moment not related with this video.

The attitude that is injected trough mass media(euronews in particular) is more or less the same as with Australian event.
The threat of lone terrorists among us. How to deal with them? What need to be done to prevent those type of attacks?
So basically we have strict changes in legislation and more surveillance.
 
In the still that Perceval provided, is it the blue thing on the dead man's right wrist that is being suggested may be some sort of plastic cuff? l would have guessed it was a watch.
 
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