France - Charlie Hebdo Attack

[edgitarra]

Yea but in the Live Leaks clip with the execution of the guy who was crawling on the ground... where is the blood? I know about guns, and really, when you point an AK47 at the head of someone, there should be brains all over the place. And then the ammbulance takes the injured one without applying pressure on the wound?
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=bc6_1420632668
check this bad acting!

there would be a huge pool of blood there, ask any soldier

 

[Chu]

Yea but in the Live Leaks clip with the execution of the guy who was crawling on the ground... where is the blood? I know about guns, and really, when you point an AK47 at the head of someone, there should be brains all over the place. And then the ammbulance takes the injured one without applying pressure on the wound?
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=bc6_1420632668
check this bad acting!

there would be a huge pool of blood there, ask any soldier

I think you may have missed some previous posts on this thread. See Perceval's reply, for example. Think about the possibility of the police man not being shot on the head, but lower.

I don't thing this was "bad acting" at all.

 

[loreta]

I am surprise of the reaction of the French to this attack. Yesterday it was like watching a very strange movie, absurd and very very strange. Something is not "normal" about all this fear and the exaggeration of people in the congregation for the freedom of speech.This attack had a particular objective, was not putting in danger at all all the country, it was directed at a particular place and was like, as I see it, a "réglement de comptes" (mob killing like in the St. Valentine's day massacre) . It is not the same as if this attack would have been in a metro, or in a train, or even in the middle of the street, or if a bomb would have exploded like when in Madrid in 2003. So the French reaction of the civilians seems for me not normal. Did they received subliminal information via the tv? I don't understand.

Edit: clarification.

 

[Cosmos]

Yea but in the Live Leaks clip with the execution of the guy who was crawling on the ground... where is the blood? I know about guns, and really, when you point an AK47 at the head of someone, there should be brains all over the place. And then the ammbulance takes the injured one without applying pressure on the wound?
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=bc6_1420632668
check this bad acting!

there would be a huge pool of blood there, ask any soldier

I think you may have missed some previous posts on this thread. See Perceval's reply, for example. Think about the possibility of the police man not being shot on the head, but lower.

I don't thing this was "bad acting" at all. There is enough that is fake and lame in the story. But this is one on the things that the official media are using to "debunk conspiracies". Shouldn't that tell us something? Like the "actors" in the Boston bombings? Those same people talking about actors aren't questioning other facts that are really suspicious. Very sad...

Yes.

It should be pretty obvious by now, that jumping on the actors bandwagon, is a distraction at best. More than that, in fact it doesn't really help to expose the truth, it leads to the opposite:

I'm inclined to say that that whole actor thing (If real or not, doesn't really matter) is a conscious effort by the PTB to muddy the waters and direct people away from really important evidence. Cointelpro in action IMO.

The very fact that so many of the alternative community spring on that planted horse, in this and other recent events, is proof IMO that the PTB have succeeded to implant exactly what they wanted.

Let's face it, if people concentrate on that, IMO planted actor theme, they are successfully directed into the realm of "totally crazy conspiracy theorists and theories". And how successful can such kind of directed research into "crazy land" be, to awake as much of the sleeping public as possible?

I think the PTB know exactly that when they convert most of the attention of the alternative community into such "totally crazy conspiracy theories" like "actors", that it is unlikely that many people of the sleeping public will wake up to the fact that it was indeed some sort of false flag operation.

 

[Esote]

I understand what you mean Loreta and I have a weird feeling about this phenomenon too.
I guess we are witnessing some kind of a mass manipulation operation.
But it's not 'the French' who are concerned, it's only part of them. Many people are not "Charlie", this is a media thing...
And actually they make it as the whole world being concerned.
Do you understand better with the political show why there is all this hype around this tragedy ?
And you don't need subliminal information via tv to get there.
Classical conditioning through the medias is enough.
That's why we are not 'sortis de l'auberge' (out of the inn, a French expression meaning that it's going to take time) !

 

[anothermagyar]

I am surprise of the reaction of the French to this attack. Yesterday it was like watching a very strange movie, absurd and very very strange. Something is not "normal" about all this fear and the exaggeration of people in the congregation for the freedom of speech.This attack had a particular objective, was not putting in danger at all all the country, it was directed at a particular place and was like, as I see it, a "réglement de comptes" (mob killing like in the St. Valentine's day massacre) . It is not the same as if this attack would have been in a metro, or in a train, or even in the middle of the street, or if a bomb would have exploded like when in Madrid in 2003. So the French reaction of the civilians seems for me not normal. Did they received subliminal information via the tv? I don't understand.

Edit: clarification.

I think about the fear: My mom taught me not to judge people after their religion or skin color, judge them by their actions,
but when I was 19, I went out with a Syrian young man
a couple of times and my mom freaked out, she was in shock.
Then I reminded her what she said to me and she was mumbling something under her nose.

 

[Zee Ley]

So the French reaction of the civilians seems for me not normal. Did they received subliminal information via the tv? I don't understand.

Loreta,
As I understand "to receive subliminal information" in the sense you are using here is similar to "being hypnotized".

Although I am not French to say for sure, I think there is no need in hypnosis. The thinking process here is the main issue.
As an example picture yourself an old lame school joke.

My friend is asking me a tricky question:
Do your parents know, you are stupid?
The first thing that comes in to my mind is to say "No". This answer of course will make my friend lough.

So the question contains a hidden statement. The statement says "I am stupid". Do my parents know about it?

As I see it so far the same pattern is used in news broadcasting regarding these lone terrorist events. People just don't think, that's the problem.

 

[loreta]

Thanks for the inputs, yes, I read about what Laura saw in the pool. I understand the collective hysteria, and it is very scary to see it so clearly. To be witness of it, so directly even through the radio or the medias even some people we know. I think about the book Defying Hitler by Sebastian Haffner. We are in the beginning of a situation that looks like what Mr. Haffner was seeing... And I don't like this.

And now new "security laws" in France, 10.000 soldiers on the streets and all the tra la la. And the borders of every country and all of this is what, it seems to me, people want. Incredible.

Mr. Valls on the radio, some minutes ago: "The France who SAVE Mali, Muslim state." And he employed the word WAR some times, saying that France was at war.

The Laura's pool is something extremely important to study. Maybe the answer is there.

Most of all I am angry and also fascinated and also lucky to see all of this. I feel free in a sort of way but angry.

 

[anothermagyar]

Thanks for the inputs, yes, I read about what Laura saw in the pool. I understand the collective hysteria, and it is very scary to see it so clearly. To be witness of it, so directly even through the radio or the medias even some people we know. I think about the book Defying Hitler by Sebastian Haffner. We are in the beginning of a situation that looks like what Mr. Haffner was seeing... And I don't like this.

And now new "security laws" in France, 10.000 soldiers on the streets and all the tra la la. And the borders of every country and all of this is what, it seems to me, people want. Incredible.

Mr. Valls on the radio, some minutes ago: "The France who SAVE Mali, Muslim state." And he employed the word WAR some times, saying that France was at war.

The Laura's pool is something extremely important to study. Maybe the answer is there.

Most of all I am angry and also fascinated and also lucky to see all of this. I feel free in a sort of way but angry.

Feel the same! When I read the book I had shivers on my spine ( is that the right way in English?), because what he described in Defying Hitler is NOW repeats, just in a more advanced way, just like the C's said, WWII was a rehearsal, now we get to see the "performance".

Btw, I just find this article from FB:

Entire article here:
_http://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/heroic-muslim-man-saved-jewish-hostages-during-paris-siege-by-hiding-them-in-chiller-9970051.html

Heroic Muslim man saved Jewish hostages during Paris siege by hiding them in freezer


A heroic young Muslim hid Jewish hostages in a freezer as they sought refuge from a killer during a siege at a Kosher supermarket.

Lassana Bathily, originally from Mali in west Africa, is said to have shepherded terrified customers to safety in a chiller as the Islamist gunman took hold of the Hyper Cacher supermarket in Porte de Vincennes, Paris, yesterday.

Amedy Coulibaly executed four of the 19 hostages before police stormed the building and ended the terror, killing the gunman as he attempted to flee.

 

[MK Scarlett]

There is one thing, among others which is struggling me about yesterday: Why - if there is a danger in France - put the Plan Vigipirate which is France's national security alert system at its maximum? When there is a "terrorist attack" threat turning around, they (the French government) activate it. And from last Wednesday (the Day), they put this alert at its maximum which means that we now are in attack alert. It is the level 4, the last one, the name is Scarlet and it is defined by "Notification of a risk of major attacks, simultaneous or otherwise, using unconventional means and causing major devastation; preparing appropriate means of rescue and response, measures that are highly disruptive to public life are authorized." _http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigipirate

In this document provided by the French government and page 21, we can read this:

Les rassemblements de masse sont des cibles de choix pour les terroristes. Ils présentent de nombreuses vulnérabilités intrinsèques en raison de leur caractère parfois festif, du milieu ouvert dans lesquels ils ont lieu, du nombre de personnes présentes et en général de leur faible niveau de protection. _http://www.sgdsn.gouv.fr/IMG/pdf/Partie_publique_du_plan_Vigipirate_2014.pdf

Translation: Mass gatherings are prime targets for terrorists. They have many inherent vulnerabilities because of their sometimes festive, the open environment in which they occur, the number of people's present and generally low level of protection.

 

[anothermagyar]

Totalitarianism couldn't happened without total control.
Now they got what they wanted, and this:

Translation: Mass gatherings are prime targets for terrorists(agent provocateurs). They have many inherent vulnerabilities because of their sometimes festive, the open environment in which they occur, the number of people's present and generally low level of protection.

So, they (the French government) put this alert system at its maximum and they (the French government) decide to organize this so big manifestation... Isn't it weird? Is there a danger or not?

And now, it is a total Jew recuperation, as French government decided to send army and policemen to "watch" Jews schools... But not the other ones? Aren't they in danger too?

We need a different dictionary: i.e.
replace: terrorist= agent provocateur and makes sense!
Yes it is dangerous, they play with us, so as always, indeed.

 

[Esote]

As I wrote in the last C's session, there is one thing to consider together with the mass manipulation about the 'Je Suis Charlie' hysteria, which is that many of the people who went demonstrating wanted to show their solidarity and their willingness for an union going beyond French, Muslim, Jewish or whatever identities, mostly in order not to let those who want hatred and violence recuperate the event by their ideology...
Not that bad IMO.

 

[loreta]

Listening to the news:

from a terrorist attack now the politicians and the reporters and the "specialists" (read sociologues, historians, teachers, ex-politicians, philosophers, rectors et tout le tralala) are talking about immigration. The word, from them, immigrant is more used now then the world jihadist. This is now the new debate. Arab immigration, evidently. So yes, now the jews of this century are the muslims. And we will see, I am afraid, the racism raise and extremely restrictions for immigration and control of the immigrants. This is the result of the magnificent and libertarian march of yesterday.

 

[loreta]

As I wrote in the last C's session, there is one thing to consider together with the mass manipulation about the 'Je Suis Charlie' hysteria, which is that many of the people who went demonstrating wanted to show their solidarity and their willingness for an union going beyond French, Muslim, Jewish or whatever identities, mostly in order not to let those who want hatred and violence recuperate the event by their ideology...
Not that bad IMO.

Evidently. Many "good citizens" where yesterday manifesting, that's for sure. But politicians and the PTB are like scorpions. You can not ask a scorpion not to sting. It is in their nature. Literally the French yesterday had been fooled: now the army is on the streets, there will be more control on their lives as in Internet so in their freedom, there will be more control in the borders, more propaganda, more racism. And when I say French I think about Spanish, Belgian, the rest of Europe.

 

[Eboard10]

As I wrote in the last C's session, there is one thing to consider together with the mass manipulation about the 'Je Suis Charlie' hysteria, which is that many of the people who went demonstrating wanted to show their solidarity and their willingness for an union going beyond French, Muslim, Jewish or whatever identities, mostly in order not to let those who want hatred and violence recuperate the event by their ideology...
Not that bad IMO.

Yes, that was the one aspect of yesterday's march that was giving me a tiny bit of hope, but that was probably me being naive. It was also interesting to see how the MSM from various countries were giving a different picture on the matter. I found the UK news being a lot more open to the idea that the march was really about all religions uniting together against acts of terror, while the French and Italian media were giving a much more biased view, lending support to the anti-Islam cause.

Like I wrote on the latest Cs session thread:

Yes, it is sad to see the EU going along with the American/Zionsit plan. I was reading the Italian newspaper Il Corriere this morning and was shocked to see that in the question of the day, the newspaper asked the readers to vote whether they agreed or not with the following statement:

Giuliano Ferrara (left-wing politician and journalist) on the French tragedy: it's not terrorism but Holy war. Do you believe it as well?

To my utter surprise, 80% of the readers voted yes.