Free energy and HAARP technology

[Inquorate]

@Ask_a_debtor

Dude, I have had to sum up a bunch of information inbetween bringing up two kids under 3. Word salad happens. I've also had to address a wide variety of people about something i've myself taken years to get my head around - and no I'm not classically trained as it were, but i've done some hard work on this.

Nit-pick if you wish.

What is the point? Why does there have to be a point?

Share relevant results?? I have shared everything i've done to this date via the links provided. Do some reading.

Take it or leave it; this is how it is.

 

[Nienna]

@Ask_a_debtor

Dude, I have had to sum up a bunch of information inbetween bringing up two kids under 3. Word salad happens. I've also had to address a wide variety of people about something i've myself taken years to get my head around - and no I'm not classically trained as it were, but i've done some hard work on this.

Nit-pick if you wish.

What is the point? Why does there have to be a point?

Share relevant results?? I have shared everything i've done to this date via the links provided. Do some reading.

Take it or leave it; this is how it is.

Inquorate, it seems that your self-importance has been pricked. Ask_a_debtor was questioning your thinking and you have reacted in an almost combative way. I see no nit-picking going on, only honest comment on what you have written. Just because Aad does not agree with you does not mean that he cannot comment on what you wrote. He also did so in a non-confrontational way. Your post is almost rude in return, because of your self-importance issue. Can you see that?

Critical criticism is something to be looked at, not batted away.

 

[Inquorate]

@Nienna - Fair comment. I certainly have become frustrated and defensive on forums regarding the investigation of 'free energy'; not that i agree with the term. Having seen the results myself on the bench, and having dealt with naysayers for so long, perhaps I have become a little embittered. However there is a lot of BS and disinfo regarding the pursuit of devices that take less energy to set up than they operate at, so I should understand anyone's doubts.

Here's some posts i made here;

_http://www.hereticalbuilders.com/showthread.php?p=10860#post10860

"Thinking out loud:

We have Gravity, which we are supposing is due to cosmic radiation. We would expect to see an artifact of this interaction all over the world.

Indeed, we see the natural frequency (Nf) at 13.7Mhz. So, can we assume that 13.7Mhz is directly related to the speed of quantum transmutation as given in Frank Znidarsic's paper:

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science...06092-main.pdf

So if we were to find a relationship between the number 1.094E6 and 13.7Mhz, what would it be and why would it be significant?"

"Ok, we have to look at the spin of quanta;

Spin:

http://www.markusehrenfried.de/scien...hatisspin.html

Mass particles have a spin of 1/2, and make two complete turns before
they are in the same state again.

Force particles have a spin of 1, and must only make one turn before
being again in the same state.

A spin 2 particle (gravity) already
achieves the same state in only half a turn.

Phonons have spin of zero.

So when force particles interact with mass particles and become entangled,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_entanglement

they must each turn back to the same state to be measured as they
can't have half-spin.

Consider how the gravitons, photons and mass may interact through exchanging entanglement and thus phonons, ie energy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum...ttice:_phonons

(of course, I understand none of the math there. Maybe it would be
enlightening.)


Gravity:

Gravity could be the process driving the movement of atoms (as well
as heat)

"An interesting feature of gravitons in string theory is that, as
closed strings without endpoints, they would not be bound to branes
and could move freely between them. If we live on a brane (as
hypothesized by brane theories) this "leakage" of gravitons from the
brane into higher-dimensional space could explain why gravitation is
such a weak force, and gravitons from other branes adjacent to our own
could provide a potential explanation for dark matter."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graviton


So, when we consider what exactly Zc (1.094E6), we have to conclude that as it is the speed of quantum transition, that it must be the speed at which phonons (sound waves) travel in the atomic lattice or zero point field or virtual particle foam etc.

We can theorise that it begins with dark matter bleed-through at a frequency of 4 times, continue with force particles at a frequency of 2 times, and finaly to mass particles at a frequency of one. Dark matter/gravity then drives and stabilises mass via a 3 stage parametric pumping mechanism. The spinning implies circular movement and thus maybe a relationship to Pi.

The interesting thing with mass particles is that as Fermions, they must have opposite states of spin to other fermions nearby, so the energy becomes scattered as heat / 'random' atomic movement (possibly why hydrogen remains fluid at absolute zero?)

Another interesting thing is that the force particles do not need to be different states of spin, which allows them to line up together. could this be how the force of magnetism travels in the local field?

Sorry for the word salad peeps, just thinking out loud."

The interested person can put together an equation from those posts that may be of special consideration, and the idea of a three stage parametric pump may give an idea as to how to build up a local energy field as shown in these two videos;

_https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5qUUiMPex8
_https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIIhgHTEoM0

Both of which use no batteries. Just cohering energy from the environment.

Here's another of imterest showing the assymetric nature of the magnetic field being used to create a 'perpetual motion'.
_https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IljUwQGEkGo

So, the fellow really knows his stuff as you can see. I am currently waiting for a workcover insurance claim to settle so i can opurchase some of the very expensive equipment needed to tune these systems while they are being made; my own cheap stuff doesn't cut it, although i've gotten close.

Apologies to the forum for the tone of my previous post.

 

[Inquorate]

Here's something that may interest forum users here;

There is a naturally occurring frequency of 13.75Mhz (sometimes as low as 13.5Mhz) - any good spectrum analyser ($5k+) will show this.
It appears to be related to Gravity's interaction with mass; that is, there appears to be a relationship between the speed of spin of the graviton, Pi, and the speed of quantum transition.

Lately this frequency has been shifting at night-time (when the equipment is shielded by the earth) to up to 14.2Mhz.

This could indicate the approach of a change in cosmic gravity.

 

[shijing]

Lately this frequency has been shifting at night-time (when the equipment is shielded by the earth) to up to 14.2Mhz.

This could indicate the approach of a change in cosmic gravity.

That is interesting -- do you have a source on that one?

 

[Inquorate]

Here;

http://www.hereticalbuilders.com/showthread.php?p=6833&highlight=natural#post6833

Posts 199 and 200

Elsewhere in the thread, Dr Stiffler (the inventor of Spatial Energy Coherence technology) had also claimed that units he had made (which amplify the natural frequency group via spatial resonance) were no longer operating at night due to the shifting of the natural frequency. I'll try to locate it. His equipment ($20k Spectrum Analyser) is much better than what I have to hand ($500 + laptop) But I can still see the shift.

I will keep searching for his comment.

 

[Inquorate]

Here it is, post 1996 on another forum (knew i'd read it somewhere)

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/3934-high-voltage-thin-air-67.html#post116625

From his post, one can conclude the changes began mid-November 2010, and if what he has led me to believe via emails (only ever suggesting me to research such-and-such, never out-right saying anything) is indeed true, that the natural frequency group may be due to graviton spin interacting with mass particles etc, then one must conclude that gravity itself is changing at night.

 

[Inquorate]

Sorry, I must correct my above statement. This post by Dr Stiffler

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/3934-high-voltage-thin-air-48.html#post71312

would indicate that the diurnal differences began at least in 2007, but became big enough to stop his devices working at night in 2010. A difference of less than 1 Mhz would be sufficient to do this in my understanding. For the 'diurnal effect' to have become greater than 1mhz in mid 2011 would indicate that the shift is indeed increasing.

 

[Inquorate]

"I think I made reference to this a few years back on some forum, think
of a very weak vibration device (random oscillations) placed in a secure
attachment to the wall of a giant skyscraper. Keeping track of the input
to the vibrator (oscillator) and using integration will easily show that
this tiny device could in no way bring down the building to which it is
attached, yet it indeed will. A sympathetic set of oscillations will
begin over time and the building will self destruct. Now we have indeed
an over-unity condition "

Its kind of off putting and a little suspicious that Dr Stiffler? does not give proper attribution to Tesla and makes it sound like he created a device like this.
_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla%27s_oscillator

Even Tesla's small device is only rumored to have worked (something may have shaken his lab but Tesla did like to play with BIG toys too and no building ever came down), no one else has ever witnessed a working device as described.

Not that they are the be all end all authorities, but the Mythbuster team tried to recreate it with no real success.
_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MythBusters_%282006_season%29#Episode_60_.E2.80.93_.22Earthquake_Machine.22

He seems pretty sure of himself (above in my bold emphasis) with no proof to his claim.

As Data states it takes a lot of energy to bring a building down, but it is possible.
_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mechanical_resonance

"In a Mythbusters episode they reproduced one of Tesla's experiments with resonance by determining the natural frequency of an unused truss bridge, and then created a device which would "ping" the bridge with a pneumatically actuated rod that struck the bridge at exactly that same frequency, thereby causing the bridge to resonate. The tiny vibrations caused by the air-powered pinger were timed at exactly the right frequency to cause the pings to add up. Eventually they got the whole bridge to shake just by hitting it with a tiny metal rod, over and over, at exactly the right time."
_http://everything2.com/title/Tesla+coil

mass of actuated rod > mass of bridge :. Overunity

 

[James Henry]

"I think I made reference to this a few years back on some forum, think
of a very weak vibration device (random oscillations) placed in a secure
attachment to the wall of a giant skyscraper. Keeping track of the input
to the vibrator (oscillator) and using integration will easily show that
this tiny device could in no way bring down the building to which it is
attached, yet it indeed will. A sympathetic set of oscillations will
begin over time and the building will self destruct. Now we have indeed
an over-unity condition "

Its kind of off putting and a little suspicious that Dr Stiffler? does not give proper attribution to Tesla and makes it sound like he created a device like this.
_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla%27s_oscillator

Even Tesla's small device is only rumored to have worked (something may have shaken his lab but Tesla did like to play with BIG toys too and no building ever came down), no one else has ever witnessed a working device as described.

Not that they are the be all end all authorities, but the Mythbuster team tried to recreate it with no real success.
_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MythBusters_%282006_season%29#Episode_60_.E2.80.93_.22Earthquake_Machine.22

He seems pretty sure of himself (above in my bold emphasis) with no proof to his claim.

As Data states it takes a lot of energy to bring a building down, but it is possible.
_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mechanical_resonance

"In a Mythbusters episode they reproduced one of Tesla's experiments with resonance by determining the natural frequency of an unused truss bridge, and then created a device which would "ping" the bridge with a pneumatically actuated rod that struck the bridge at exactly that same frequency, thereby causing the bridge to resonate. The tiny vibrations caused by the air-powered pinger were timed at exactly the right frequency to cause the pings to add up. Eventually they got the whole bridge to shake just by hitting it with a tiny metal rod, over and over, at exactly the right time."
_http://everything2.com/title/Tesla+coil

mass of actuated rod > mass of bridge :. Overunity

Please see my response here:
http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,31993.msg432250.html#msg432250

 

[combsbt]

@Ask_a_debtor

Dude, I have had to sum up a bunch of information inbetween bringing up two kids under 3. Word salad happens. I've also had to address a wide variety of people about something i've myself taken years to get my head around - and no I'm not classically trained as it were, but i've done some hard work on this.

Nit-pick if you wish.

What is the point? Why does there have to be a point?

Share relevant results?? I have shared everything i've done to this date via the links provided. Do some reading.

Take it or leave it; this is how it is.

I'm not trying to nit-pick I'm just having a hard time following this material. I've looked through quite a bit of what you have posted and have yet to come across a concise and coherent explanation of pretty much anything involved.

Maybe I could ask a couple specific questions to clear things up?

Who is Dr. Stiffler and where did he receive his doctorate from?

What does "speed of quantum transition" mean?

Why is there particular emphasis placed on a 13 mhz signal? What makes this the "natural frequency group"? There are all sorts of waves of a wide range of frequencies all over the place at all times!! If you want some food for thought on the subject, I'm particularly fond of this video of Richard Feynman (he is always so excited about the nature of things) _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19zRwxtJSOo

@Nienna - Fair comment. I certainly have become frustrated and defensive on forums regarding the investigation of 'free energy'; not that i agree with the term. Having seen the results myself on the bench, and having dealt with naysayers for so long, perhaps I have become a little embittered. However there is a lot of BS and disinfo regarding the pursuit of devices that take less energy to set up than they operate at, so I should understand anyone's doubts.

I have looked into a lot of different paths along this line and although I haven't found anything too promising yet, I still like to look at ones that I haven't investigated without jumping to premature conclusions. So I'm making a real attempt to understand what the nature of this particular line of thought is but it is proving somewhat difficult.

I also like to tinker with things and test things for myself, so one last question: Which of the effects were you able to reproduce or observe "on the bench"? I would possibly like to give them a try for myself. This is what I meant before by "sharing relevant results" by the way, just an idea of what you've been able to reproduce.

 

[combsbt]

"I think I made reference to this a few years back on some forum, think
of a very weak vibration device (random oscillations) placed in a secure
attachment to the wall of a giant skyscraper. Keeping track of the input
to the vibrator (oscillator) and using integration will easily show that
this tiny device could in no way bring down the building to which it is
attached, yet it indeed will. A sympathetic set of oscillations will
begin over time and the building will self destruct. Now we have indeed
an over-unity condition "

Its kind of off putting and a little suspicious that Dr Stiffler? does not give proper attribution to Tesla and makes it sound like he created a device like this.
_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla%27s_oscillator

Even Tesla's small device is only rumored to have worked (something may have shaken his lab but Tesla did like to play with BIG toys too and no building ever came down), no one else has ever witnessed a working device as described.

Not that they are the be all end all authorities, but the Mythbuster team tried to recreate it with no real success.
_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MythBusters_%282006_season%29#Episode_60_.E2.80.93_.22Earthquake_Machine.22

He seems pretty sure of himself (above in my bold emphasis) with no proof to his claim.

As Data states it takes a lot of energy to bring a building down, but it is possible.
_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mechanical_resonance

"In a Mythbusters episode they reproduced one of Tesla's experiments with resonance by determining the natural frequency of an unused truss bridge, and then created a device which would "ping" the bridge with a pneumatically actuated rod that struck the bridge at exactly that same frequency, thereby causing the bridge to resonate. The tiny vibrations caused by the air-powered pinger were timed at exactly the right frequency to cause the pings to add up. Eventually they got the whole bridge to shake just by hitting it with a tiny metal rod, over and over, at exactly the right time."
_http://everything2.com/title/Tesla+coil

mass of actuated rod > mass of bridge :. Overunity

Forgot to mention this in that last post but this is not overunity by my understanding of the term. I can get a guy 3 times my weight swinging as high as the cross bar on a swing set with some well timed pushes, that doesn't mean I'm getting more out of my effort than I'm putting in.

 

[Inquorate]

Forgot to mention this in that last post but this is not overunity by my understanding of the term. I can get a guy 3 times my weight swinging as high as the cross bar on a swing set with some well timed pushes, that doesn't mean I'm getting more out of my effort than I'm putting in.

It does if the thing being vibrated goes beyond the device itself and incorporates the environment. consider for example a single plate of metal; ity can be considered a capacitor if one takes into account the environment it is in. Indeed, charge it with enough potential and it will arc to the environment, thus suffering dielectric breakdown.

 

[Inquorate]

The coil can be seen as one plate of a capacitor, the other plate being the environment. Or, the interwinding capacitance of the coil can be seen as a series capacitance to the environment. Either way, by changing the one in resonance with the other, we can access the virtually infinite potential (voltage) available in the environment.

I have seen on the bench;

A reduction of the temperature of certain metals and water in the SEC field from the ambient temperature.

I have seen capacitors continue to charge repeatedly and for some time.

I have seen a flourescent light persist in being 'lit' for some seconds after the SEC exciter was turned off.

I have seen LEDs lit to full brightness that would require 'x' joules being driven through a capacitor (a broken fuse tube) that is mathematically incapable of delivering the energy required, through one wire.

I have seen the energy in an initial LED bank increase with the addition of 'mass repeaters' (mass connected to two diodes facing alternate directions off one wire. The mass repeaters cooled below ambient temperature

I have seen neon gas tubes develop their own set of oscillations aside from that of the driving SEC circuit, both displaying peaks 1.094Mhz apart

I have seen the energy sent through space in straight lines (not waves as in RF), and seen the energy shielded by an open tin can (LED 'sniffer' not on inside, but on on the outside of the tin (unlike traditional RF)

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The Natural frequenct isn't important with respect to the operation of any of the 3 coil systems; you can tune them to any frequency in the environment. The natural frequency is there though, and available regardless of the environment so you could take the device anywhere if it was tuned to that frequency.

the reason i brought it up is that the natural frequency in Mhz is = 4.Pi.1.094E6 and I have a theory that the 4 is connected to quantum spin. If so, it matches the spin required by the hypothetical graviton. It is something I suspect but would like confirmation of. If gravity is shifting, it's just the natural fequency that is changing. If not, then the num,ber 1.094 (wherever it comes from) is changing. So I would need to keep t5his in mind when making coils, or indeed doing any experiments related to spatial resonance.

 

[Inquorate]

I too have spent many years in the 'free energy' circles, all to no avail until Dr. Stiffler came along. I would recommend researching his work, but no other at this time, despite possibly accessing the magnetic field itself, but the arrangement of materials would have to be very peculiarly arranged, as evidenced by this video; _https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IljUwQGEkGo . Start by looking at the links I have given here and here; _http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,31993.0.html then going to this forum; _http://www.hereticalbuilders.com/forumdisplay.php?f=22 and reading all you can. :D