French Presidential Elections 2017: Fillon vs Macron vs Le Pen

I tried to find a web page that would show the debate with English translation, and if I'm not wrong, there's at least this page:

_http://www.france24.com/en/tag/french-presidential-elections-2017/

Have you guys found some other places where one could watch it (in English)?
 
Aragorn said:
I tried to find a web page that would show the debate with English translation, and if I'm not wrong, there's at least this page:

_http://www.france24.com/en/tag/french-presidential-elections-2017/

Have you guys found some other places where one could watch it (in English)?

It sounds like France 24 is the best bet. This should be good :evil:

How to watch the debate ?

The two presidential candidates will meet for their final clash before French voters head to the polling stations this Sunday, May 7.

The main broadcast will be on French TV channels TF1 and France 2, but will also be shown on news channels such as BFM TV.

An English version of the debate will air on France 24 and you can watch an online live stream of the coverage below.

From the article: Watch the French election debate here TONIGHT: Marine Le Pen vs Macron
 
Hesper said:
Aragorn said:
I tried to find a web page that would show the debate with English translation, and if I'm not wrong, there's at least this page:

_http://www.france24.com/en/tag/french-presidential-elections-2017/

Have you guys found some other places where one could watch it (in English)?

It sounds like France 24 is the best best. This should be good :evil:

Yes, France 24 seems good and the only channel broadcasting the debate with English translations.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/799737/French-elections-2017-how-to-watch-debate-online-TV-channel-Marine-Le-Pen-Emmanuel-Macron

The two presidential candidates will meet for their final clash before French voters head to the polling stations this Sunday, May 7.

The main broadcast will be on French TV channels TF1 and France 2, but will also be shown on news channels such as BFM TV.

An English version of the debate will air on France 24 and you can watch an online live stream of the coverage below.

The debate will begin at 8pm BST (9pm Paris time) with the France 24 live stream kicking off at 8.10pm BST.

More than 20 million viewers are expected to tune in to watch the debate, which is predicted to last a two hours and 20 minutes.

Brace yourselves! :evil:
 
An Interesting Graphic in the spanish paper Vanguardia today,
Ive added my own Titles,
It tells a strange tale of how to manipulate millions of people
by controlling their choices.

Showing How the People that Voted in the First Round.
( ZERO Media coverage for Melenchon )
Will Vote in the final round.
34432571675_77db199151_b.jpg
 
Adaryn said:
Brace yourselves! :evil:

Just watched the first 30 min until the stream died. Never mind, because I just couldn't stand it any longer. Both my wife and I developed fantasies on how to best punch this imbecile right in his stupid face :evil:

I noticed that Macron comes across as predatory, how he looks at Marine so condescending and full of arrogance and hate. I mean, Marine is a hard woman, but she seems so human compared to him, and that says a lot. At least she has the decency (or maybe all-too human insecurity) to look at the moderators from time to time. Not so Macron. Such a disrespectful, despicable prick.

Sorry for the rant.
 
A bit early to say, but watching the debate I think Le Pen is doing quite well, she's acting strong and her smiling creates a bit of a shield against Macron's childish efforts to manipulate.

Watching Macron, is like following a guide book for psychopaths. He is so arrogant and self assured, trying out the usual pathological manipulation tactics.

ADDED: Macron's answers sound like he has learned them by heart, he is just blabbering out long sentences without pausing. Robot!
 
Aragorn said:
A bit early to say, but watching the debate I think Le Pen is doing quite well, she's acting strong and her smiling creates a bit of a shield against Macron's childish efforts to manipulate.

Watching Macron, is like following a guide book for psychopaths. He is so arrogant and self assured, trying out the usual pathological manipulation tactics.

ADDED: Macron's answers sound like he has learned them by heart, he is just blabbering out long sentences without pausing. Robot!

I'm getting the same impression of him.

Just looking at the way he acts and talks to his opponent, reminds me a lot of Sarkozy. :barf:
 
MK Scarlett said:
This video is from an Italian psychiatrist. It is in Italian and French subtitles, sorry about that. But, the main point is that Macron is a psychopath was was raped by the one who became his wife, driving him to this high narcissism and others things explained in this video making him a psychopath, a very dangerous man. That's what I say about him from the very beginning in my personal conversations. I saw the psychopath and my husband saw the created puppet.

For those who understand Italian and/or French, you will easily recognize what we have learned about psychopaths that rule the World here on the forum (and their mechanics to get more authoritarian followers, aka, victims in the first place), as well as works like those written by Andrew Lobaczewski, Robert Hare, Martha Stout, Natasha Walter and Laura of course.

That's the first time I hear a psychiatrist giving a diagnostic of an electable candidate. That should be the rule.


I'll start to translate them in English on this afternoon, and will report as soon as it is done; I hope before tomorrow.
Great video.

BTW: The FB of Adriano Segatori has been blocked temporarily, or so he writes in a message on the 30th of April: _https://www.facebook.com/adriano.segatori/posts/1710341758982590
 
Aragorn said:
A bit early to say, but watching the debate I think Le Pen is doing quite well, she's acting strong and her smiling creates a bit of a shield against Macron's childish efforts to manipulate.

Watching Macron, is like following a guide book for psychopaths. He is so arrogant and self assured, trying out the usual pathological manipulation tactics.

ADDED: Macron's answers sound like he has learned them by heart, he is just blabbering out long sentences without pausing. Robot!

Indeed - robot came to mind. And he just replayed his stupid phrases "par coeur", except that he doesn't seem to have a heart. He really seems to be a poster-boy for psychopathy.
 
Aeneas said:
As Meyssan said in the videos that Adaryn posted earlier, there isn't that much real power that is vested in the position of being president of France, but the election of Marine Le Pen would still send a strong message and encourage others in Europe who wish to follow a path of national sovereignty and a path of less power to Globalisation in its current incarnation.

I think there is real power available to a President of France, which is why so much effort is being expended on making sure the French people "choose the right President". Presidential power comes in the form of the propaganda potential of the high profile nature of the office, and the perception a president can create by what they do and say. That perception can then become a perspective of many people. and collective perspective is the 'raw material' of the reality in which people find themselves.
 
I managed to watch the entire debate. Ouf! Well, nothing too unexpected. Macaroni is a robot, possibly a psycho. He was disarmed by Le Pen's arguments, and when he called her a liair, he didn't really have facts to deny her claims.

As to her, I was hoping she would spend less time exposing him, and more time exposing the deep state (she just calls it "the system", referring mainly to the current PTB, but didn't say anything about how the "migrant crisis" was caused by the illegal invasion of the Middle East, etc.). So, overall, I found it a bit "weak", while she could have gone there.

Other than that, in my eyes she definitely "won" the debate, showing more empathy, a stronger character than his, etc. But I was disappointed to see that she had a chance to really go there, and she remained pretty neutral on some topics. She did manage to throw some good digs in though, mainly about how Macron was backed up by the MSM, the government, etc. while she wasn't. And about his failures in the past, or his double standards regarding "terrorism" while promoting business with Qatar and Saudi Arabia.

Well, we'll see. Of course, this morning all the MSM are saying that she lost, that everyone wants to vote for him now. Not so sure about that! I see a lot of people on FB for example, wanting to do a protest vote ("vote blanc"). Still true that there is a lot of prejudice against her, but then again, people might be afraid of saying openly that they would vote for her, while that may well be their intention for this Sunday.

It's like having the Trump/Killary option. Both could lead to a disaster, but with her there is a slight possibility of change (perhaps straight away, or after a lot of chaos, but if that's what is needed, then...).
 
Chu said:
Other than that, in my eyes she definitely "won" the debate, showing more empathy, a stronger character than his, etc. But I was disappointed to see that she had a chance to really go there, and she remained pretty neutral on some topics. She did manage to throw some good digs in though, mainly about how Macron was backed up by the MSM, the government, etc. while she wasn't. And about his failures in the past, or his double standards regarding "terrorism" while promoting business with Qatar and Saudi Arabia.

That's how I see it as well, after skimming the debate a bit more today. As for the MSM, oh my. Le Monde published a slanderous piece on its front page (online) today "showing" in detail where Le Pen was wrong - no mention of Macron, who's forever the good guy. Le Figaro published a piece citing 4 "experts" who say Macron won...

Well, I don't think so - and many people as well: most of the youtube comments on the debate were pro-Le Pen.

Agree that it's kind of a Trump/Hillary situation. It's gonna be "interesting" I guess no matter the results of the election.
 
luc said:
Chu said:
Other than that, in my eyes she definitely "won" the debate, showing more empathy, a stronger character than his, etc. But I was disappointed to see that she had a chance to really go there, and she remained pretty neutral on some topics. She did manage to throw some good digs in though, mainly about how Macron was backed up by the MSM, the government, etc. while she wasn't. And about his failures in the past, or his double standards regarding "terrorism" while promoting business with Qatar and Saudi Arabia.

That's how I see it as well, after skimming the debate a bit more today. As for the MSM, oh my. Le Monde published a slanderous piece on its front page (online) today "showing" in detail where Le Pen was wrong - no mention of Macron, who's forever the good guy. Le Figaro published a piece citing 4 "experts" who say Macron won...

Well, I don't think so - and many people as well: most of the youtube comments on the debate were pro-Le Pen.

Agree that it's kind of a Trump/Hillary situation. It's gonna be "interesting" I guess no matter the results of the election.

Let say that for me, with the info that we have with this forum, with SOTT, with the fact that we are looking for the truth she definitively won the debate and she was able to expose him as a liar. However, as Chu said, I was also disappointed.

However, for the general population, for Joe Blow, I think that she lost the debate. Although, Macron was off balance at the beginning, he came back from that surprise attack of the beginning, and he was rather calm and always asking to Le Pen, what is your program, don't tell me what mine is but what is your program. And as an image for a presidential candidate for the general population, he was rather calm this time and without too much emotion.
 
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