Frontier Internet Technician Clubs Miniature Schnauzer.

Guardian said:
OMG, Gray actually owns a Rental Cabin where "Pets will be considered on a case by case basis."

http://www.vrbo.com/135148

Well, well, well, it appears Joshua Gray is in the same business as us (Cabin Rentals) Wonder if he's ever clubbed any of his tenent's dogs in the head?

He's even offering "free high speed Internet" which is VERY expensive, since you must have a commercial account to "resell" Internet in your Cabin Rentals...at least that's what Frontier told us.

http://www.cyberrentals.com/rental/p177454
"The Little Cove cabin now has free high speed internet so bring your laptop!"

They even advertise on "Bring Fido" :shock:
http://www.bringfido.com/lodging/136525/

Boy do I have lots of "Is this really where you want to take your dog?" Reviews to write.


Reading the ad, it listed his wife's name as the person to contact for rental, not Joshua. That makes me wonder if she's really the one taking all the business risks? Especially if his name isn't on anything? It might be how he keeps from appearing to have a conflict of interest for his 'day job'? I'm not sure how that would work.
 
He would turn out to be a 'gray', wouldn't he? :rolleyes:

I've got a Linked In account and I'm currently trawling through the 100 odd Joshua Grays listed there, just on the offchance...
 
Laura said:
Wonder if they have FB pages for themselves and their businesses?

As far as I can see, the Mud Puppies pottery business is mentioned once on a pottery-related Facebook group but has no dedicated FB page. I was unable to find anything relating to the log-cabin rental either. It seems that the cabin thing is not really a business as such... more like a nice money earner on the side. But being at work that's all I could find out for the mo.
 
Just now checking in on this thread. Truly unbelievable story this guy is giving and the fact that others saw the incident, he still said he fell backwards and accidental hit the dog... My mind is wrapped around 6ft tall person, 15 pound dog. What was this guy thinking???

It is hard to trust the justice system in the USA. It is so ponerized. Is this an election year for the DA? Making it public as much as you all did, maybe the DA's office will push it harder when they know the general public is watching. Then there is the jury to be weary of.

Guardian their is so much on your plate right now, I trust you are well and taking care of yourself. And it's not like you need another target on your back. Here if you need anything. :hug:

My heartfelt prayers for all, especially Pepper for a healthy recovery. Going to give my dogs a big hug now.
 
Giray Khan the Brave said:
He would turn out to be a 'gray', wouldn't he? :rolleyes:

I know right? That was my first thought too....how symbolic is that?

I've got a Linked In account and I'm currently trawling through the 100 odd Joshua Grays listed there, just on the offchance...

Thanks hon, I really appreciate that. Joshua Gray's Internet footprint was all but non existent... until now. His wife is a Potter, so she's got some listings, but it doesn't look like he spends much, if any, time on the net at all. Of course that could change when I start going through the older data from other parts of the country.

I'm going to wait a couple days before warning pet owners about Gray's Cabin Rental business, so as to give his wife time to remove their kids names and pictures from their feeder listings. She's already sanitized her own webpage and removed their names, but it will take her a few days to get their names and pictures off some of these travel sites.

I haven't gone through all the dumps yet, but it basically looks like Gray married old money in the area, which could explain why we encountered such resistance. Of course his wife and kids didn't hurt Pepper, so I'm going to try to keep them out of this as much as possible, but any pet owner thinking of renting a cabin from Gray deserves to know what he did to a tiny little dog.

His wife looks net savvy enough to at least get her kids names and pictures off these rental listings ...and that will be a VERY good thing regardless. NO ONE should post their minor children's names, photos and address on the Web anyway...that's just asking for some sick pervert to target them.

As I was reading through his listings I was thinking "OMG, is this man nuts?" He's offering a secluded rental cabin to the general public, AND posting a picture of his small children, along with their names??
That's like going fishing for a pedophile on the net :shock:

I just gotta believe the Divine really has a sense of humor. This "man" comes to our home, almost kills Pepper, TOTALLY destroys our peace of mind, has everyone jumping at the slightest noise and having screaming nightmares...and I'm gonna wind up protecting his kids from his own stupidity.

How's that for a bite in the butt?
 
Giray Khan the Brave said:
As far as I can see, the Mud Puppies pottery business is mentioned once on a pottery-related Facebook group but has no dedicated FB page. I was unable to find anything relating to the log-cabin rental either. It seems that the cabin thing is not really a business as such... more like a nice money earner on the side.

Actually, their cabin rental business has its own domain and website and about 20 listings or so on various Vacation Rentals sites. It's a cookie cutter site, but it's got pretty good coverage.
http://www.littlecovecabin.com

The wife's Pottery business has it's own domain and website too, also template, but I'm not going to include it in the blog. She didn't club Pepper, and I don't think many people are going to take their pets to a Pottery class?
 
Giray Khan the Brave said:
You got that right. The HTML says it was generated by something called 'Homestead SiteBuilder' :D

Yeah, it's a pre-rolled package...we're definitely dealing with the point and click crowd here. What do you wanna bet I'm gonna have to send Edwards a list of sites Gray needs to email to get his kid's names and photos off the net before I can blog about his cabin rental business?
 
Bluestar said:
Just now checking in on this thread. Truly unbelievable story this guy is giving and the fact that others saw the incident, he still said he fell backwards and accidental hit the dog

The statement from Frontier that I saw said he was "surprised" by the dog and reacted "instinctively" ...which is a joke to anyone who's ever known a miniature schnauzer. Did you see somewhere he said he "fell" and it was an "accident?" If so, he's changed his story?

It is hard to trust the justice system in the USA. It is so ponerized. Is this an election year for the DA?

No it's not unfortunately.

Making it public as much as you all did, maybe the DA's office will push it harder when they know the general public is watching.

Well all the attention has at least gotten Pepper a shot at a little justice. My main concern is that Gray NEVER be allowed to just walk into someone else's yard and attack their leashed pet again.

Service Technicians for phone and utilities companies have BROAD latitude when it comes to going on private property...and they need it to do their work. This 'man" MUST be denied this privilege, or no one's pets are safe tied up in their own back yard.

Then there is the jury to be weary of.

Since this is a misdemeanor, there will be a Judge not a jury... I think?

Guardian their is so much on your plate right now, I trust you are well and taking care of yourself.

I can't sleep without waking up at the slightest noise. Someone's dog barks at a groundhog and I'm out on the porch. On their cabin rental website, they talk about their "little piece of Heaven" ...well Joshua Gray destroyed ours.

And it's not like you need another target on your back. Here if you need anything. :hug:
Evidently the list of psycho hosebeasts that want a piece of me wasn't long enough? I really appreciate your concern hon...thanks :hug2:

My heartfelt prayers for all, especially Pepper for a healthy recovery. Going to give my dogs a big hug now.

Pepper looks SOOOOOO pitiful....she can stand on her own now, but she just walks in a little circle with her head tilted to one side. She can't eat yet either, but she did lap a little chicken broth :cry:
 
I, too, noticed that Joshua's wife sanitized her pottery website. Last night when I Googled her name, the "The Potter" section on her website listed a small blurb saying something to the effect that she lived in Sylva with her husband, Joshua Gray, ... yada yada. Now that blurb listing him has been removed.
 
April said:
I, too, noticed that Joshua's wife sanitized her pottery website. Last night when I Googled her name, the "The Potter" section on her website listed a small blurb saying something to the effect that she lived in Sylva with her husband, Joshua Gray, ... yada yada. Now that blurb listing him has been removed.

Yeah, I noticed that too...and I'm going to give her time scrub her kid's names off the various Vacation Rental sites before I write anymore. At least something good will come of this. She's on the web advertising a VERY secluded cabin on a remote mountain, then telling people there are small children running around, AND she gives their names and pictures. :shock:

That's just three different kinds of STUPID all rolled into one ...even if the attack on Pepper had never happened. These ignorant people come stumbling into the Cyberverse without a CLUE about the dangers. They post pictures, names, sometimes even birthdays, exposing their kids to MILLIONS of perverts and then act surprised when one puts down a $100.00 deposit and comes knocking on their door.

When I read their "Owner Profile" my jaw dropped .... they might as well have put a "Pedophile Buffet" Banner on their cabin rental website. What do you want to bet they don't even check their reservations against the Sex Offender Registry? :headbash:


A CSO on our Pow Wow Predators list was just spotting at a Flea Market this past weekend...selling "Indian" TOYS :mad:

http://www.outofthedark.com/ConvictedPredators/PowWowPredators.html
 
Guardian said:
Yeah, I noticed that too...and I'm going to give her time scrub her kid's names off the various Vacation Rental sites before I write anymore. At least something good will come of this. She's on the web advertising a VERY secluded cabin on a remote mountain, then telling people there are small children running around, AND she gives their names and pictures. :shock:

It really does give one the screaming fantods, doesn't it? There is such a fine line between innocence and stupidity, especially in the world we live in today. As a dad, that link you attached of convicted molesters gave me the shivers. It's a veritable catalog of monsters and god knows how many more are out there. :( It doesn't bear thinking about but as a parent one has no excuse not to...

By the way, I cropped out a portrait of the guy from the photo you posted and ran it through the Tineye image search engine but no hits, I'm afraid. So it seems that the best thing to do now is to wait for the court case and see how that turns out. I assume that you will be there to give us a first-hand commentary, Guardian?

How's little Pepper doing now? I was glad to hear that she was standing up and taking some broth. Those are VERY good signs... :)
 
Giray Khan the Brave said:
It really does give one the screaming fantods, doesn't it?

It sure does. You'd think the man would have a clue since he installs Internet...but evidently not?

It's a veritable catalog of monsters and god knows how many more are out there. :( It doesn't bear thinking about but as a parent one has no excuse not to...

Exactly! The victims of child sexual predators come in every race, religion, color, economic bracket, etc. The only commonality I've ever been able to discern is that the parents never believe it could happen to their child. They hear all the horror stories...but it always happens to someone else's baby. The thought of it happening to their own kids is so horrible, they put the possibility out of their minds...and that's EXACTLY what the predators count on.

Right now, while we're sitting here chatting, there are tens of THOUSANDS of child sexual predators HUNTING their next victims. They're searching for a way to get a child alone, in a secluded area. They're HUNTING for opportunities to become coaches, youth councilors, baby sitters...any trusted position that will get them alone with a child. Finding a situation like what's depicted in the Gray's Vacation Rental ads is like hitting the Lotto to some of these pervs.

By the way, I cropped out a portrait of the guy from the photo you posted and ran it through the Tineye image search engine but no hits, I'm afraid. So it seems that the best thing to do now is to wait for the court case and see how that turns out.

Yeah, I ran his photo too...no hits. It doesn't appear that he's active on the Internet at all, which is kinda funny since he installs it.

I assume that you will be there to give us a first-hand commentary, Guardian?

Yes I will, but since I'm a witness to what happened both before and after the blow was struck, I don't know if I'll be allowed to watch the whole trial or not? If I'm called as a witness, I'll probably be secluded during testimony, so my roommate (who was at work when the assault happened) will be going to take notes too.

How's little Pepper doing now? I was glad to hear that she was standing up and taking some broth. Those are VERY good signs... :)

About the same, she's hit a "plateau" ....which isn't good. The family, especially the little boy, are having a VERY difficult time with her condition. If you put her on the ground, she just walks in a circle a few times then falls over. :cry:
 
Guardian said:
About the same, she's hit a "plateau" ....which isn't good. The family, especially the little boy, are having a VERY difficult time with her condition. If you put her on the ground, she just walks in a circle a few times then falls over. :cry:

Do you think the family might be willing to try DMSO? There's info on the net about it reversing stroke damage so if a blow to the head is similar to stroke...

We've given it to our dog a number of times, even injecting it. It sure makes a difference in a hurry.
 

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