Frontier Internet Technician Clubs Miniature Schnauzer.

[Sinapi]

I wish I had a happy ending to tell, but there isn't one...just a family trying to cope with a horrible thing.

I hope they sue that guy AND the company for some big bux!

Agreed! Poor Pepper. I'm praying that they will be able to cope. Hopefully they will receive closure and justice from what that "man" did to them.

Thanks for letting us know.

 

[Guardian]

I wish I had a happy ending to tell, but there isn't one...just a family trying to cope with a horrible thing.

I hope they sue that guy AND the company for some big bux!

I don't think they intended to pursue a civil action initially, but that may have changed. They were originally going to wait to see what Frontier would do after the criminal case, they just wanted to make sure the man was fired and couldn't do this to someone else's dog....but then someone from Frontier started posting some VERY nasty (and untrue) comments on the blog, and that really upset them.

I'm not going to blog any more about Gray until after the criminal case....it's the Law's turn now. Once we have a verdict, one way or the other, I'm going to make sure everyone who owns a computer is warned about this "man"

 

[Al Today]

but then someone from Frontier started posting some VERY nasty (and untrue) comments on the blog, and that really upset them.

Now, isn't placing more fuel to the fire. Could that be called libel?


Quote taken from here: http://www.personal-injury-info.net/libel-definition.htm

Definition of libel 1: Libel is the written act of defamation, vs. slander, the oral act of defamation.

Definition of libel 2: use of print or pictures to harm someone's reputation. Until 1964, a person could prove that they had been libeled simply by showing that the statements in question were incorrect. In 1964, the Supreme Court decided that public officials had to prove that the statements in question were made with "actual malice"-for the purpose of harming the person's reputation. As a result of the Supreme Court case, Time, Inc. v. Firestone (1976); private individuals only have to prove negligence, rather than "actual malice," on the part of the press.

Definition of libel 3: Defamation of an individual or individuals in a published work, with malice aforethought. In litigation, the falsity of the libelous statements or representations, as well the intention of malice, has to be proved for there to be libel. In addition, financial damages to the parties so libeled must be incurred as a result of the material in question for there to be an assessment of the amount of damages to be awarded to a claimant. This is contrasted to slander, which is defamation through the spoken word.

Definition of libel 4: Libel per se describes statements, which are widely understood to be harmful to a person's reputation. For example, referring to an individual as an alcoholic or criminal, or any description, which would lower the reputation of that individual in the eyes of others. These words are harmful and libelous.

Definition of libel 5: A written, printed, or pictorial statement that unjustly defames someone publicly. Prosecution of libel as a punishable offense puts some measure of restriction on freedom of the press under the First Amendment.

Definition of libel 6: To defame, or expose to public hatred, contempt, or ridicule, by a writing, picture, sign, to lampoon. A tort consisting of false and malicious publication printed for the purpose of defaming a living person.

Definition of libel 7: To publish in print writing or pictures, broadcast through radio, television or film something that is false about someone else which would cause harm to that person or his/her reputation by bringing the target into ridicule, hatred, scorn, or contempt of others. Libel is defamation, which is written, or broadcast and is distinguishable from slander, which is oral defamation.

Definition of libel 8: A malicious publication expressed either in print or in writing, or by pictures, effigies, or other signs, tending to expose another to public hatred, contempt, or ridicule. Such publication is indictable at common law.

Definition of libel 9: Published material meeting three conditions: The material is defamatory either on its face or indirectly; The defamatory statement is about someone who is identifiable to one or more persons; and, The material must be distributed to someone other than the offended party; i.e. published; distinguished from slander.

Definition of libel 10: A publication without justification or lawful excuse, which is calculated to injure the reputation of another by exposing him to hatred, contempt or ridicule.

As one can see, the legal definition of libel revolves around the maliciousness of the act and the harm it has causes. The act of libel, according to the law, has to be in written or visual form such as an article or photograph and has to somehow damage the reputation of a person or business in some way where the courts are the natural place to resolve the claims.

For example, if you were to write and publish an article accusing someone without a criminal record or any other proof of being a "disgusting pedophile" this statement would be very libelous. The person's reputation would be damaged and you would be open for a libel suit. If, however, you reported that you observed someone with a past criminal record of inappropriate behavior towards children, in a public place engaging children with candy and games and wondered if this was legal, then this would be a much safer statement.

In a libel case, the hardest part is trying to interpret the intent of the defendant. If someone's intent was clearly malicious, then a libel case has a good chance of succeeding. Libel is not libel when it is about and un-definable group of people or organization. Saying all "CEO's are crooks" is not libel, but specifically naming a person who is a CEO, most likely is.

The best defense in any libel case is "truth" as this element is thought to be something that mutual excludes libel. The concept of "truth" is different from "fact" so it is important to consult and attorney for the specifics.

 

[Guardian]

but then someone from Frontier started posting some VERY nasty (and untrue) comments on the blog, and that really upset them.

Now, isn't placing more fuel to the fire. Could that be called libel?

Yup, since part of what they said was NOT true.

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[Lirpa]

Did they post the nasty comments on Frontier's blog or the blog you started? If it was Frontiers, may I see the link?

 

[Guardian]

Did they post the nasty comments on Frontier's blog or the blog you started? If it was Frontiers, may I see the link?

It was on the blog I created and I deleted the comments AFTER I made screenshots for the ADA and the Raricks. I also have the IP addresses the comments were posted from.

 

[Guardian]

No court tomorrow...the Animal Cruelty case has been continued until August 23 per the request of Joshua Grey's attorney. I can't say I'm surprised, any good defense attorney is going to run out the clock in a criminal case in the hope that witnesses will disappear, evidence get misplaced, etc.

The delaying tactic is NOT going to work, but he doesn't know that.

 

[Mr.Anderson]

Hang in there, Guardian.

 

[Guardian]

Hang in there, Guardian.

Thanks hon..I KNOW what Gray's lawyer is doing, but it doesn't make it easier. He waited until the last minute so we'd get all ready the day before, then get frustrated by the delay. He's probably do it again.

 

[Gimpy]

They can only stall for so long? I'm not familiar with how that works.

 

[Guardian]

They can only stall for so long? I'm not familiar with how that works.

They can get away with it two or three times if it's a well known, busy attorney. The Lawyer's Felony cases will take scheduling precedence over a misdemeanor.

 

[Giray Khan the Brave]

Hang in there, Guardian.

Telling Guardian to 'hang in there' is like telling a fish to hold it's breath so the water won't get into its lungs

I pity that poor lawyer who thinks he's going to have an easy and routine day at court. :)

 

[Guardian]

Hang in there, Guardian.

Telling Guardian to 'hang in there' is like telling a fish to hold it's breath so the water won't get into its lungs

I pity that poor lawyer who thinks he's going to have an easy and routine day at court. :)

Well, I do have about twenty seven eight-by-ten colour glossy photographs with circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one explaining what each one was to be used as evidence against him ;D

 

[Guardian]

http://pleasehelppepper.blogspot.com/2011/07/criminal-case-against-joshua-gray.html

Criminal Case Against Joshua Gray Continued to August 23, 2011
Joshua Gray's Attorney requested and received a continuance in the Animal Cruelty case against Joshua Gray. The new court date is August 23, 2011.

Frontier Management will not say whether or not Joshua Gray has been fired, or even suspended, due to "Privacy Issues" ...so if you need phone service, and have a pet on a leash in your yard, you might want to keep a wary eye out for who Frontier sends to install/repair your telephone and/or Internet.

Pepper's condition is about the same, and it looks like the brain damage caused by Gray will be permanent. Pepper can only walk in circles and will most likely require special care for the rest of her life. The good news is that while her motor skills are shot, he mental faculties seem intact. She recognizes her family, responds to her name and other verbal stimuli, and clearly enjoys being cuddled.

While she will never be the same physically, she can have a good life as a well loved lap puppy.

 

[Giray Khan the Brave]

Well, I do have about twenty seven eight-by-ten colour glossy photographs with circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one explaining what each one was to be used as evidence against him ;D

Well, that will have to do for starters...