George Floyd's Death, Protests and Riots across the US

Project Veritas has released their 4th undercover video which revealed the trail of dark money funding Antifa and RefuseFascism.

RefuseFascism uses Antifa-like tactics and the organizer claimed they receive money from George Soros and met with a Tom Steyer advisor.
Tom Steyer is a billionaire hedge fund manager and enviro-fascist activist.
RefuseFascism Organizer: “…you’ll see, there’s people even in the Hillary campaign worked with RefuseFascism because they see the danger.”
  • Head of the Atlanta Chapter of RefuseFascism, Tee Stern: “We Actually Did
    Get a Grant from Them (Soros) Around – We Started a Thing Called a National Day
    of Appreciation for Abortion Providers.”
  • National Organizer for RefuseFascism, Andy Zee: “…I Believe He
    (Steyer) Has Political Ambitions, and He Might Not Want to Be Directly
    Connected.”
  • National Organizer for RefuseFascism, Andy Zee: “…Steyer might not
    want to be connected” “…Los Angeles, San Francisco, New York, this at a certain
    point dominates the national news…it’s a very disruptive force.”
  • National Organizer for RefuseFascism, Andy Zee: “…we’re meeting with his (Tom Steyer) main adviser on impeachment. We’ve been talking to his assistant, he first said he was going to meet, he made the announcement…”
 
New York’s police unions gathered on Randall's Island Tuesday to have their impassioned sentiments heard on all that's happening. Here's the speech from the first officer on this video [a video which has since been removed from Youtube]:

"Good afternoon. My name is Michael O'Meara. I'm the president of the New York State Association of PBA's [Police Benevolent Associations]. I just want to talk to you, the press. And I want to talk to the police officers." [he gestures to the officers around him]

"Three hundred and seventy-five million interactions with the public every year. Three hundred and seventy-five million interactions. [With] overwhelmingly positive responses. But I read in the papers all week, we all read in the papers, that in the black community, mothers are worried about their children getting home from school without getting killed by a cop. What world are we living in!? That doesn't happen! It Does. Not. Happen. I am not Derek Chauvin. They [pointing to the other officers] are not him. He killed someone. We didn't. We are restrained. And you know what? -- I'm saying this to all the cops here -- because you know what? Everybody is trying to shame us. The legislators. The press. Everybody is trying to shame us into being embarrassed about our profession. Well, you know what? [holding up his badge] this isn't stained by someone in Minneapolis. It's still got a shine on it. And so do theirs. [he gestures to his fellow officers] So. Do. Theirs."

"Stop treating us like animals and thugs. And start treating us with some respect! That's what we're here today to say. We've been left out of the conversation. We've been vilified. It's disgusting. It's disgusting. Trying to make us embarrassed of our profession. Three hundred and seventy-five interactions -- overwhelmingly, overwhelmingly positive. Nobody talked about all of the police officers that were killed in the last week in the United States of America, and there were a number of them."

"We don't condone Minneapolis. We roundly reject what he did as disgusting. Disgusting. It's not what we do. It's not what police officers do. Our legislators abandoned us. The press is vilifying us. Well, you know what guys? [he faces the other cops gathered] I'm proud to be a cop. And I'm going to continue to be proud to be a cop until the day I retire. And that's all I have to say." [he walks away]

[end speech]


[Youtube cancelled the account for the above video while I was transcribing the second officer’s speech. I did find another shorter video, and have been able to piece together the second speech.]

One good thing that might come out of all that's happening could be that of renewing the resolve of the good cops out there, while placing on serious notice those cops from whom the term "systemic racism" seemingly derives.

I wanted to add that, based on my own and my husband's personal experience, we have unfortunately noticed that working class Americans of Irish descent are often extremely and openly racist. (This has always surprised me given Ireland's history.) And, given so many police officers, at least in New York, are of Irish descent, I have always pretty much assumed that this must play a role in their policing. I mean, how could it not? But then this is tricky business: separating one's personal observations, upon which one's general impressions are based, from the actual data, which might in fact contradict such personal sentiment -- as some of the previous videos linked to on this thread would seem to indicate. Actually, on that topic I haven't done the kind of research necessary to render a solid opinion. (I haven't read this entire thread, either, by the way.) I've always assumed the problem was systemic, but I'm open to considering other arguments and their accompanying data.

As per the above speech, the police officer's use of the word “restrained” is interesting to think about in this context. A well trained police officer is considered a professional, and as such is required to use “restraint” regardless of what his/her prejudices may be. I'd add that, as per the second speech transcribed below, "restraint" is not the same as the official mandate (from on high) with regard to the recent violent protests in New York. The mandate that said: "there will be a soft touch," which, as the officer attempts to explain, can put the police officer and those he's required to protect in danger.

Putting aside whether or not the issue of racism in policing is “systemic,” I do think it's important to at least acknowledge the fact that, historically speaking, black communities have been targeted in deeply insidious, nefarious ways, including the intended role that crack cocaine has played in further eroding black families and neighborhoods, which really is a subject in itself -- one that may involve the police, but not solely (especially considering that for years now there has been an increasing CIA presence within police departments throughout the country, whose covert role would be interesting to research). The point is not to overlook such underlying realities in attempting to assess the complex problem of racism.

Having said that, I think all of us here are seeing how this current crisis is using the emotionally charged complexities of racism to stage what is looking more and more like a highly orchestrated radical insurrection.

NOTE: before it was removed from Youtube, I was going to encourage you to watch the entire video since the second speech explains how what's happening on the ground in New York City -- and this is dangerous stuff -- is being “legislated." In any case, I have been able to transcribe most of the second speech as well. Below the speech is a video of the latter part of that speech. In it you can see how distraught these police officers are.

Speaking is Patrick J. Lynch, President of Patrolmen Benevolent Association:

“As professionals are under assault… the signs on the street [meaning those signs carried by the protestors] are dictating the legislation that happens. But it’s worse than that. We here in the city are doing this in the backdrop of a night where we had seven shootings in four minutes, eight shootings in five hours in different parts of Brooklyn, not connected. Last week forty shootings — the highest since 2015. Homicides went from five to thirteen. Burglaries have quadrupled."

"You may as why? Why now? How is this happening when we have so many professional, caring law enforcement officers out there on the street? And the answer is simple: there’s been a message not only from our City Hall but from the State House that says “there will be a soft touch.”
And the criminals know it. And while folks were protesting, they were breaking down doors, climbing in windows, pulling out their weapons they’re not afraid to carry."

"Their hatred toward law enforcement is misguided. I have thirty-six years as a New York City police officer, and I can tell you unequivocally: not one woman or man that has a shield on their chest, a patch on their shoulder, regardless of what arm of law enforcement they come from, will support or defend a murder of an innocent person…"

I'm missing the next part of the speech, but from what I recall, he had just stated that under the cloak of darkness police reform legislation is being passed without involving rank and file police officers. As for the legislators:

"It’s their job to read it and know what it says. The reason I say that is: why aren’t you speaking to all the stake holders? That’s their word. The stake holders. Our families, you know, the community. [he points to the officers around him] Why aren’t you asking the question of professional law enforcement? Why aren’t you seeking our advice? Is it that maybe we’d be reasonable? Maybe we can see where the problems would be? Maybe ‘cause we’re standing on that street corner with our fellow citizens, we know that they don’t want this violence visiting their corners?
… Didn’t we just see this problem with our legislators recently? Didn’t they rush through bail reform? Didn’t they have to admit they made a mistake? Why did it happen? It happened because they rushed it in the dark of night without speaking to — you know — the stake holders." [he gestures to the officers around him, and points to the crowd listening]

"They talk about transparency. Me too. We want to be [transparent]. You can only have transparency of you’re being honest, having a discussion, having a dialogue. 'Defund the police department'. Ask different folks. What’s the definition? Get rid of the police? Defund the police? Ship the money around? It’s a slogan. It’s a slogan during a protest. I admire it — because it’s open to so many definitions."

"We went out on the streets to do a job. We went out on the streets during this violence. We went out on the streets ‘cause we knew we had to. City Hall ordered us to. And the brass put us out there. But then when we found out there was no plan, there wasn’t enough of us, [that they] were not planning on stopping the violence, [so] the violence visited us."

"We have district attorneys from all our counties, from many of our states, saying 'we will not prosecute criminals who looted… Who rioted'. Our D.A.’s won’t prosecute them. But you know what’s on the hearts and minds of everybody who has a shield in their hip pocket today? That [the person] who the D.A. did prosecute was a police officer whose boss sent him out there to do a job, [who] was put in a bad situation during a chaotic time."


"And you know what? — my gray hair told me it was going to happen — everybody walked away from them [he and his partner?] There was no longer a boss standing next to them… The brass threw them under a busThe D.A. [is saying] we don’t have time to prosecute criminals, but we’ll prosecute you. Talk about “de-escalation.” They’re de-escalating their job. They’re refusing to do their job. They’re asking us to pull back. They’re asking us to walk away from you, [meaning the crowd]. They’re asking us to abandon our communities. They’re asking me to walk away from where I live. They’re asking me to walk away from where I work. They’re asking us to walk away from neighborhoods that we brought back. And that’s what’s happening. And you know what? We don’t have a choice. If we put our hands on the criminal 'you’re going to jail'. I’m not being dramatic. That’s how bad it is. No one’s read the bills. They’re following the crowd… They’re legislating by signs in a protest."

"We have our leadership who think they’ll appease the criminals. Who think they’ll appease the rioters. They think they’ll appease our critics. You know what my job as a New York City police officer is, when I put that shield on my chest? I put that patch on my shoulder? My job at that protest is to stand on my own two feet. My job and your job [facing the other officers] is to protect your right [now facing the crowd] to say what you believe as loud as you want, wherever you want. And we’ll stand that line. We’ll stand that line and protect that right. But when I’m standing that barrier line, what I don’t have is a personal opinion. My job is to protect [you]."

"So when we see our leaders tactically putting themselves on the ground. When we see our leaders joining the other side of the barrier, whether we personally agree or not, you are derelict in your duty. [As a police officer] you stand the line. Sometimes you’re happy. Sometimes you’re angry. But it makes no difference because we stand the line. We stand the line on our feet with our shoulders back, with our shield out saying 'I’m here to make sure you’re good'.”

"Now, if I want to go across that line, if I’m the brass in this job that wants to jump over the line and go on the ground, then throw in a 28 [code for a time out?], take your time, go home, change, and come back, and do it on your own time. Don't do It on the time of the citizens. Don't do it on my time. Don’t do it on the backs of our members. And then when it goes wrong, and a D.A. says we’re going to lock you up, you [the brass] should be standing next to them saying 'I’m the leader. I sent them out, I should take the hit. I should get locked up'. But don’t hold your breath [speaking to the crowd]. We’re not going to see that because they’ve walked away."

[…]

"A while back we had a press conference where we turned our flag upside down. I said we’re under distress, they [gesturing to the other officers] said they're under distress, and nobody listened. I don’t want the neighborhoods I worked in, that I brought back, that we brought back, I don’t want [them] to slide back. Homicide: five to thirteen. Shootings: forty last week. The highest since 2015. Seven shootings in four minutes. Eight shootings in five hours in different neighborhoods in our borough… It’s not some “gang guy” running around town shooting everybody. It’s separate incidents. Ask yourself why do they [the criminals] feel emboldened to do it? Because there’s no consequence. There’s no cops. And we’re held back."

"We look great in our blue uniforms. We look great when we’re standing straight up on the corner. But the message of a “soft touch” means you look great, but don’t get yourself dirty. You look great, but look like a potted plant."

[…]

"We, in this city and state [New York], are the most restrained police departments in the country… Ask Minneapolis if they're the same. We don’t defend, we won’t defend, we have not defended. [meaning Chauvin & those like him] [However] I do defend those that stand here. I will defend my family. I will defend our citizens, both here, and who are now in Phase I going back to work."

"Why did the crimes happen? We’re pulled back. We’re demonized. And all the cops had to run to Manhattan, out of the boroughs. The 'stop looters'. That’s why it happened."

 

Must watch.

Coordinated CIA operatives at work.

That is a professional team doing there thing.

Makes me wonder who instigated the looting and violence at other protests... Who burnt down those precincts.

Note how the normal protestors don't know what to do or how to respond.... Watch how this professional team blend into and work the crowd.

This is the BEST video I've seen of such a team at work in a live environment.
 
The word 'slave' literally originates with 'Slav', because so many Slavs were taken as slaves by North Africans and Ottomans.

Which is to say nothing of the overland African slave trade into the Muslim world, which started several hundred years before the importation of slaves into the New World and is estimated to have killed tens of millions.

Everyone forgets about this atrocity because there is no genetic trace of African slavery in the Ummah. That's because Africans were primarily enslaved for the sex trade, either as concubines or as harem guards. The children of the concubines were immediately killed, while the harem guards were gelded.

African anthropologist Tidiane N'Diaye deals with the above in his book Le génocide voilé (only in French I'm afraid). The "sensitive" (and more or less suppressed) topic of the Arab slave trade in Africa has been discussed here.
 
The highlighted phrase above seems to be a 'meme' going around BLM sympathizers at the moment. Just yesterday, an acquaintance on FB had a discussion with me and argued almost exactly the same thing:

My response:

In any case, I'm afraid it's not as simple as 'black people just want justice and equality'. To your credit, you did write "most black people" rather than all of them. However, in order to seek justice and equality we would need to understand what and where the injustice really is, and most people are reacting emotionally and not being capable of analyzing the situation as it is. It is not as simple as 'whites hate blacks' - not even close to the truth, I would say. I recommend you read the following article and watch the videos at the end:

Yes.....That's why I said this complex challenge has been co-opted & hijacked.....I am not here to convince or debate the plight of black people. I was speaking from my experiences and of those I know. I grew up in a 90% community of black people who fought & won their liberation only to be sold & recolonized by another "super power" without consent. The 1st time I was called a n*gger by an adult and was treated unequally was when we relocated to West Virginia for our mother to pursue her doctorate. Before then, I never knew of any racial tension or inequality.

Black people came to the US under various circumstances. Some of us were before colonization & forcibly enslaved and moved to various parts of this hemisphere. The 1st people that were enslaved by Columbus was on the island of Hytai which today is called Hispanola to the slave markets of Spain. So you have blacks from various locations & circumstances combined into one narrative that suits the power structure. My people were never enslaved, but displaced. In school we were taught that all black people came over as slaves/enslaved people from Africa. Not true. I had the fortunate to have grown up & raised by elders and our history was taught to us outside school. I also lived in Virginia, New Jersey, Florida & Massachusetts and had some real messed up situations in those places.

Land theft, gentrification are still happening among other injustices. I was once told that if I can't afford to live in my island paradise, I should leave. Why should I leave my homeland because external factors are creating economic unbalances in my community. All one has to do is reflect on what black people were able to achieve after enslavement, like Tulsa Oklahoma, Levy County, Florida. Integration and other sinister factors show a backwards movement. During my journey, I have had many conversations with "nice Caucasians" and even though we had a lot of common ground, things went sideways when it came to racial perceptions. My great-grand granny was an ex-communicated german missionary. Who ex-communicated her for marrying a black man? We all have our own experiences & perceptions based on our short cycle of life.

As a participant in the Civil Rights Movement of the 50's & 60's my mother & others were fighting for equality & the movement was hijacked into integration. Before integration blacks built up & supported blacks. What happened?

Some useful info......
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gh9KuHNB1_E. :cool2:
 
I've written in the corona thread about my company's new rules. Now I've just gotten an email from one of the top management about racism. In part, he says:

Over the past week, I’ve taken time to reflect on recent events that continue to significantly impact our country — specifically the killings of George Floyd, Breonna Taylor, Ahmaud Arbery and others. These incidents have laid bare a systemic racism that exists in our country. (emphasis mine)

and some more pandering...

then he ends it by saying:

There’s more work to be done, and I want you to know that the conversation doesn’t end here. You’ll be hearing more from me and my leadership team on this important issue.


This company is already rated as one of the most "diverse" in the country. The CEO is black. Top executives are mostly female, of various shades. They are constantly sending us emails about diverse groups that we should celebrate. It's getting to the point I'd like to suggest they just call us by a number and remove company photos. That way, no one could know my race or gender. Fun times.
 
African anthropologist Tidiane N'Diaye deals with the above in his book Le génocide voilé (only in French I'm afraid). The "sensitive" (and more or less suppressed) topic of the Arab slave trade in Africa has been discussed here.
This is in deed an excellent book to read about slavery. I think he is Senegalese, so the racism-accusation is void in the first place. A book I recommended many times. It is available in german language:
and by posting this link I do NOT recommend buying via Amazon, it is only to show the book.
 
Here's a relevant passage from the C's session dated August 23rd 2014:

(Menrva) I wanted to ask about Ferguson, Missouri. We wanted to know if the events there were a marker?

A: Not a marker per se, it was an opportunity.

Q: (Perceval) It was an opportunity for people to wake up, see what's going on, and take action. But they didn't. It was a missed opportunity by the people.

(L) Yeah.

A: The killing will continue until even the "silent majority" find their voice. They were silent at the exposure of Ferguson and many previous incidents. But notice that the anger is still building and psychopaths always miscalculate.

Q: (Pierre) That's a message of hope. There will be a reaction eventually.

(Perceval) They'll miscalculate in that they'll allow the killing to continue, and they don't realize that there's a breaking point where there's a string of murders, just killing people gratuitously in the street, and that will trigger large percentage of people...

(Andromeda) Something will break...

(Perceval) And that's what they can't budget for because they're psychopaths. All of these shootings by cops are the result of the ponerization of America and the influx of psychopaths into society and into positions of power; more ordinary psychopaths, the only place they can get power is the police force; so, they flood the police forces because they're not smart enough to be politicians. Then they get guns and start shooting people. That's not part of their plan. I mean, I don't think they're trying to incite revolution by killing people. It's just a function of psychopaths in the police force doing what they do. It's going to be a war between them and ordinary people.

(Andromeda) It'll be like in V for Vendetta.

A: Psychopaths see these events as reasons to impose more controls, but that only results in more pressure and more anger which will reach a global tipping point.

Q: (Pierre) Doesn't it mean national or international revolt?

A: "Tipping points" can be other than human initiated actions.

Q: (Pierre) Cosmic reactions.

(L) Yeah.

(Perceval) Earth changes.

(Pierre) It would have been better that humans react. {Note: if humans don’t take care of their problems, the cosmos will.}

(Chu) But that makes sense like with dictatorships where people were oppressed and killed in front of other people, and still the people submitted. If it's not a cosmic type of reaction, people won't react now. They just don't have it in them.

(L) Yeah, I think the big key to what's going on here is the global nature of the repression, the killing, the suppression, you know?

(Perceval) It's linked because they say, okay, the effect of psychopaths can cause people to rise up and have a revolution. But other than that, it would be nature. It reminds me of that 2004 tsunami when they said...

(L) “If you can't create within, you create without”. When people's creativity is suppressed...

(Perceval) …it manifests externally. It was a wave of creativity that was being suppressed, and it was a wave that came in and destroyed everything, you know what I mean?

(L) Yeah.

(Pierre) There's a circle, or negative feedback loop described with the dynastic cycle {in “Earth Changes and the Human-Cosmic Connection}...

(L) That's a positive feedback loop of negative events.

(Pierre) Yeah, you're right. More earth events, more desperation, more control, more anger, and it keeps feeding itself.

Two quotes from the C's:

A: The killing will continue until even the "silent majority" find their voice. They were silent at the exposure of Ferguson and many previous incidents. But notice that the anger is still building and psychopaths always miscalculate.

A: Psychopaths see these events as reasons to impose more controls, but that only results in more pressure and more anger which will reach a global tipping point.

People certainly have found their voices now!
 
According to this YouTuber, the Far Left is losing ground.

"The Marxist media can pretend that people are taking the Democrats seriously, but they can't deny the mockery and ridicule sweeping social media. The gap between media rhetoric and actual reality couldn't possibly be wider."

You don't see this news on the news.

 
I'm familiar with the distinction, thanks, and from more impartial sources than Dennis Prager, who, in this video, literally said that the left is the enemy of liberals.

My larger point is that if a person falls into the trap of continuously demonizing the other side, that person is also serving the PTB, through the negativity and division that results.

You speak of the "other side" as if it a difference of taste. I see it as truth vs the lie therefore, the other side is opposite of truth. As far a demonizing goes there is no censorship of the "other side's" point of view! there are no social harassments for those that those espousing "other side's" point of view! Where are the riots and mass demonstrations for those that oppose "other side's" point of view! If anything our characterization of the "other side" is not demonizing but a shielding mechanism to keep us from compromising our personal environment of truth. We are strengthening our frequency fence.
 
I had you in mind when i attended this thing as I take your perspective to be the barometer of the modern young conservative white male (I put you somewhere between 33 - 40 :halo:).

I was on the look out for such to pipe up in the open discussions but no one challenged the underlying narrative of the existence of racism. What was challenged was assuming all white people were the same, that they could not understand the perspective from the black side.

Of the black people that spoke and gave their experiences, the things they mentioned were items that no one could argue with e.g. being called racial slurs or bullied by other colleagues due to their race, or feeling like if such happened they couldn't call it out without being accused of taking a joke the wrong way etc. On this last one, my modus operandi when it comes to work is not to treat it as a social playground, so that means being professional at all times, no sexist, racist or other 'ism' joke even when its not meant to be hurtful. In a professional environment, with various people from various backgrounds and having various viewpoints, I find it's best taking a conservative approach to relations. So, on this point, I couldn't see how one would disagree with what was being said.

I tried to find opportunities to bring up alienation of conservative folks but to be honest, it was very hard as all the things which were being brought up as wrong are actually wrong! What I would question are the number of timee such things occur e.g. are people experiencing this on the daily / regularly or did they have 1 experience and now they think racism is everywhere and omnipresent... Those are the metrics that I think would be useful as then you can know if your workplace is racist or not.

At least at this particular employer, race is not a hot topic, feminism is the inclusivity topic of choice. There's training on implicit bias that managers have to take but that's it as far as race goes. On feminism, they track multiple things - pay, hire etc and take actionable steps. Literally 50% of the team I'm in are women and women represent a decent chunk of the management within the team. Still, the top slice in the organisation are mostly men but women at director level are numerous and they are only going one way - up. My personal experience is the women at these positions are quite strong and exceptional so there was no corner cutting in them getting there as the narrative goes from the conservative sector.

Anyways, as you can see, gender is a bigger thing. What they were talking about at this network was they wanted race to not be a subject that is ignored. For one, they want an environment where racism doesn't exist and is actively discouraged, they want them to start seeking out top black talent in the employment market so that there's a representation of black people operating at a high level in the company etc. They didn't talk about opportunities being reduced for others so that others can progress, at least this particular company doesn't operate that way - usually you rise or fall based on your own merits plus how the business is doing.

In any case @psychegram in this one occasion, I didn't see how conservative folks could defend the usual position we see discussed in media and socially as in the context of the discussion I attended, the conservative position wasn't under threat. Trust me, I was on the lookout like a flipping hawk. 👀

Added: The ordeal also cautioned me in terms of being presumptuous. I went in expecting one thing but the experience was different. So at least for me, despite the overarching narrative I hear in society / media / whatever about how things are, I'm learning that ultimately what I experience as an individual in the world is mostly related to my immediate environment and how I relate to that environment rather than how some speaker on YouTube or author of an article says things are. Ultimately this informs my day to day rather than the macro-narratives going on BUT of course, macro-narratives can and sometimes do come crashing down into your day to day experience e.g. Corona.

The whole argument of what is wrong with society between race, sex, religion, etc is lacking in the realization that this life experience is all about getting an education and karma is our most aggravating teacher. We knowingly chose our life lessons before embodiment so what good will it serve us now to demand that these lessons should be eliminated from our 3D existence? The argument that racism is wrong is true but that is true for all our imperfections! We humans are significantly flawed and we are here to evolve toward our better selves while swimming in our filth.

Social Justicing is trying to fix this 3D existence so that we can live in an utopia without having to deal with our karma. Can you say that that is a better way to learn than the one we are currently in?

Have we all not felt that life is a bitch and then we die? Life is brutal because we have a lot of karma to deal with. But if you look back throughout history we can also say life is so much better than it was 100's, 1000's of years ago. We have been working towards a better existence just by the shear fact that none of us let alone those that believe they currently over victimized would trade places with their similar counterpart back into the middle ages or during the Greek, Roman, African or Chinese empires.

Historic perspective is important here and should not be ignored.
 
From observing what's happening,I'd say the only thing that can remain is an opportunity for re-organization.Re-introduction of spirituality as the main driving force of society as opposed to money,re-introduction of certain moral values that uphold it etc.People will eventually be more receptive to basic ''esoteric'' knowledge of psychopathy,secret governments and the like simply because intense suffering forces self reflection.Beyond that I'm not very optimistic about any kind of superpowers that might appear in people.I still don't get how this 1000 year time frame is gonna work if we're supposed to have an invasion from outer space as well as from underground (they said some will be destroyed,that still leaves most) as well as all the cataclysms.
People, especially those in the big cities seem to think that they cannot survive without the current complex, interdependent, fragile, global(ist) system. They cannot even feed themselves. My dad was fond of saying, not long before he died, that "All I really need is a shack, a hound dog, two pairs of blue jeans, and a fishin' pole". People in small groups could be self-sufficient using the best of old and new technology. We do not need streaming services or smart coffee pots to be happy. We do not need self-driving cars to transport us to soul-crushing jobs. Why is our government so afraid that China will overtake the United States in the field of Artificial Intelligence?
 
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