I was reading the comments to the latest show
Objective:Health - Is No-Virus Theory a Psy-Op? -- Sott.net and began to write a comment, but since the comment proposal does not stick to the box any longer. As this thread, has dealt with virus vs no virus, I will leave the comment here. Compared to the original, there are only minor changes., but I have inserted one image, and I might have written it all differently had I followed and responded to this thread alone.
Considerations related to the concept of viruses
The word "virus" appeared 820 times in a search on the United States Patent and Trademark Office website. [
Link]. Similarly, on patents.justitia.com there were several pages [
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Then I went to the site of the European Patent Office [
Link] searched for "virus", but limiting the search to text and abstract, "virus" appeared in 168,263 results [
Link] While in 41,041 instances, "virus" appeared in the title alone [
Link].
On the Wiki on Genetically modified organisms [
Link], "virus" appears 74 times. In the Wiki for genetic engineering techniques [
Link] virus appears 17 times, and one paragraph dominates:
Transduction
Main article: Transduction (genetics)Transduction is the process by which foreign DNA is introduced into a cell by a virus or viral vector.[43] Genetically modified viruses can be used as viral vectors to transfer target genes to another organism in gene therapy.[44] First the virulent genes are removed from the virus and the target genes are inserted instead. The sequences that allow the virus to insert the genes into the host organism must be left intact. Popular virus vectors are developed from retroviruses or adenoviruses. Other viruses used as vectors include, lentiviruses, pox viruses and herpes viruses. The type of virus used will depend on the cells targeted and whether the DNA is to be altered permanently or temporarily.
Considering the number and age of the patents, the model of what a virus is and does, appears to be working. If someone denies the concept of viruses, what is it that was patented and appeared to be working?
Virus or no virus: Is it a matter of perspective, like when a child having learned the rudiments of physics and chemistry comes home and tells mum and dad that the chemistry teacher says a breakfast table is mainly made of molecules each consisting of hydrogen, carbon, and oxygen, while the physics teacher says that molecules are made of atoms, and that atoms are made of electrons, protons and neutrons, and that these compressed to the density present in a neutron star would reduce the table to a very tiny size indeed. Is the child right? Well, yes, but we continue to use our table.
If interested, the Wiki on the neutron star has: [
Link] "Neutron stars have overall densities of 3.7×10^17 to 5.9×10^17 kg/m3 (2.6×10^14 to 4.1×10^14 times the density of the Sun), [c] which is comparable to the approximate density of an atomic nucleus of 3×10^17 kg/m3.[30] [...]" In a m3, there are 1000 litres of 1000 cm3, which gives a 1,000,000 cm3 in a m3. A cm3 would then have a density of 3.7×10^11 to 5.9×10^11 kg/cm3. That is quite a lot, but in a white dwarf the density is less, "A typical white dwarf has a density of between 10^4 and 10^7 g/cm3" or between 10 and 1000 kg/cm3. Given such densities, what would be the volume of your table?
Perhaps a problem with viruses is that we can't perceive them easily with our senses. But here we have an analogy in the electromagnetic spectrum [
Link], understood as ranging from 1 pm (10^-12 m to 100 x 10^6 m We can only perceive a tiny fraction, the visible spectrum [
Link] (ap. 380 nm to 750 nm)- However, we can still infer the existence of and make use of many other wavelengths, as we do in radio and microwave technology.
Mentioning the density of matter and the lengths of electromagnetic waves, what about dust? The Wiki of "Particulates" [
Link] has a chart of their sizes relative to each other. The current model of a virus puts viruses within the range of "Suspended Atmospheric Dust" while there is an overlap with "Soot", "Tobacco Smoke" and "Smog".
There is also a Wiki on aerosols [
Link], defined as "An aerosol is a suspension of fine solid particles or liquid droplets in air or another gas.[1] Aerosols can be natural or anthropogenic" that informs us they are typically less than a micrometer. The Wiki on micrometer [
Link] then explains that this is usually the scale used to describe the size of cells and bacteria. These we can observe in a microscope quite easily.
Under bioaerosols [
Link], they say that these range in size from 10 nm for viruses to 100 micrometers for pollen. This is actually interesting since nanomaterials [
Link] are listed as having sizes between 1 nm and 100 nm. About the mechanical properties, they say: "
The ongoing research has shown that mechanical properties can vary significantly in nanomaterials compared to bulk material. Nanomaterials have substantial mechanical properties due to the volume, surface, and quantum effects of nanoparticles." This indicates viruses, as depicted in the conventional model, due to the very small size might have properties, that are still to be fully understood, and even may vary from virus to virus and perhaps dependent on their spacial configuration of their components. If such unusual properties indeed do exist, they might change our current models of what viruses are and are capable of.
Nano materials are used in nanotechnology [
Link], which has produced many applications. Similarly, there is a field called nanobiotechnology [
Link]: "Nanobiotechnology, bionanotechnology, and nanobiology are terms that refer to the intersection of nanotechnology and biology.[1]" The size of viruses, as presented by the current model, places them within the range of study and use in nanobiotechnologies, if anyone would have the know-how. The aforementioned patents indicate that some do.
Does the idea of viruses challenge human imagination?
Did you know that negative numbers were not commonly accepted until rather recently. The Wiki on negative numbers [
Link] informs us: "Prior to the concept of negative numbers, mathematicians such as Diophantus considered negative solutions to problems "false" and equations requiring negative solutions were described as absurd.[6] Western mathematicians like Leibniz (1646–1716) held that negative numbers were invalid, but still used them in calculations.[7][8]"Is it possible that there are concepts in other areas of science that like negative numbers offer similar obstacles? Is viruses one of them?
The duck test
There is a test called the duck test: [
Link] "If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck." The problem is that not only are there many kinds of ducks, if we accept the idea of a duck as understood in English. Worse, there are different names for a duck in different languages. A person not knowing English would have to learn the language to find out what a duck was. Similarly, the question of the existence of viruses or not, no matter what one thinks is an opportunity to learn biology, biochemistry, genetics, and nanobiotechnology, although it could take lifetimes, as the combined research into these fields have taken thousands of people all over the globe millions of hours to do.
Synthetic biology, genome sequencing and viruses
As I was writing the comment, I looked up a few terms and words, which then led to the subject of synthetic biology. Below are links and notes.
"Testing of understanding by building is the shortest path to demonstrating what you know and what you don't." Drew Endy, Synthetic Biologist and former Civil Engineer, Department of Stanford University 9 Aug 2011
Synthetic Biology Explained, YouTube at 6:13 in
Jul 27, 2020
Synthetic Biology: Programming Biology in DNA - Professor Tom Ellis The video is mostly about programming in biology, there is nothing about viruses.
Sep 15, 2019
Engineered Viruses Are the New Biological Weapons, Here's What You Need to Know The video explains the historical development since about 2001.
If you try scholar.google.com Interesting search strings could be "virus genome sequencing", "designer viruses", or "engineered viruses" There were 2.8 million results for "virus genome sequencing" For What Is Virus Genome Sequencing? See
What Is Virus Genome Sequencing?
For the sequence of SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) Genome, see
SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) Genome Sequence and Map
In the JGI Gold Genomes Online Database
JGI GOLD | Home there are among "Projects w. GenBank Data" listed "Viral Projects 12,662"
Wiki on
Virus classification
Wiki on
List of virus families and subfamilies
Wiki on
Genetically modified virus
Jul 4, 2020 Exploring the world of synthetic biology and designer viruses - with Andrew Hessel is a video, where there is:
"viruses are probably the most 17.09 powerful tool 17.10 emerging in life science like there's 17.12 there's some amazing areas to go and 17.14 work in whether it's enzyme design 17.16 metabolic pathway engineering but but if 17.19 you want to build organisms 17.21 start with viruses and we're i believ 17.24 it turns into the app store of biology 17.27 because viruses are essentially usb 17.29 sticks they just load programs 17.31 into cells but there's no standardized 17.33 usb port in cells so 17.35 they come in a lot of different shapes 17.36 and sizes so you know keep your eye on 17.39 viruses"
Andrew Hessel has a small company, Humane Genomics, that aims to synthesize viruses that can combat cancer.
Viruses appeared among the projects worthy of US Government spending in Ukraine
March 28, 2021: THE SECRET US BIOLABS IN UKRAINE
The secret US biolabs in Ukraine - Seemorerocks
March 11, 2022: US tried to fund bio-labs in Ukraine as early as 2005, records show
US tried to fund bio-labs in Ukraine as early as 2005, records show -- Sott.net
June 10, 2022 Pentagon admits to 46 US-funded biolabs in Ukraine, claims they were for 'improving public health'
Pentagon admits to 46 US-funded biolabs in Ukraine, claims they were for 'improving public health' -- Sott.net
That was all for the comment to the SOTT article. I chose not to be direct, but decided to come up with angles that could be explored.