Iodine and Potassium Iodide

[Christine]

Je vous remercie pour vos conseilles, je ferai le nécessaire dés que mes moyens financières me le permet.
Permettais moi de vous demander si la rétention d’eau au niveau des chevilles est due à une mauvaise circulation sanguine ? Si c’est le cas, est-ce qu’il y a un moyen ou un produit pour une meilleure circulation ?

Other than bad circulation, you might have water retention. I would see about reinforcing detox pathways and making sure that you don't have too many carbs. Carbs usually facilitate water retention.

I have noticed a good diuretic effect with milk thistle. It helps to detox the liver.

Je vais commencer à diminuer les pancakes pour ne plus en manger à partir de septembre, je prendrais de la tisane de thym qui est un antifongique, du chardon-Marie et du potassium en plus de mon protocole et voir le résultat. Je penserai aux lavements en vu du résultat.
Comme les C’s ont dit " ça sera long pour certain " Je pense que ça sera le cas pour moi.
PS : J’avais essayé un collant de contention, ce qui m’a fait mal derrière je genoux droit, je ne pouvais plus le plier, je marchais avec une jambe raide pendant au moins 3 jours, je n’ose plus les mettre.

I am going to begin to decrease pancakes not to eat it any more from September, I would take some herb tea of thyme which is an antifungal, of the milk thistle and the potassium besides my protocol and to see the result. I will think enemas in view of the results.
As the C's said " that will be long for some " I think that that will be the case for me
PS: I had tried a tights of concentration, what hurt me behind I knees straight ahead, I could not fold him(it) any more, I walked with a stiff leg during at least 3 days, I do not dare to put them any more.

 

[Marina9]

When I tried coffee enemas, I never drank coffee. Now I take a cup of coffee now and then, ideally if I'm sure it has no aflatoxins. With time, I developed arthritis symptoms after coffee due to the aflatoxins. It didn't happened with organic aflatoxin-free coffees though. The aflatoxins create cross reaction with gluten-like proteins if I remember correctly.

The coffee enema has only enteroheaptic circulation, it is a different circulatory system than the systemic one. It works mostly on the gut and liver. People who have heart palpitations from drinking coffee don't get the palpitations from doing coffee enemas. It is very interesting!

It is indeed very interesting! Thanks very much for explaining my doubt Gaby :)

 

[PERLOU]

Oui en effet, le médecin m'a signifié que mes résultats sanguins et l'échographie se contredisait...
C'est pourquoi je referai une analyse de sang dans 3 mois après avoir cessé de prendre mon Lugol 12%, 5 gouttes...
Ai-je bien fait de le supprimer pendant ce laps de temps ?... Qu'en pensez vous ?... Merci pour votre intérêt...

Yes indeed, the doctor meant that my blood tests and ultrasound contradicted. . .
That's why I do it again a blood test within three months after they stopped taking my Lugol 12%, 5 drops. . .
Have I done to remove it during this time?. . . What do you think ?. . . Thank you for your interest. . .

 

[Gaby]

Oui en effet, le médecin m'a signifié que mes résultats sanguins et l'échographie se contredisait...

He is confused because he doesn't know the iodine research. I think the precaution is good though, to either stop or lower the dose of lugol until your next tests. If you see your health take a down turn, I would take just enough iodine until you see an improvement in your health and stay there until the next lab test. This is what I would do.

My TSH level is higher than yours and since my antibodies are negative, I'm keeping the lugol I need for better concentration and energy. I'll repeat my tests too later this year.

 

[Siberia]

My heart is still not healthy, but I do feel much better than before. I don't have heart problems during the night anymore, and the weather changes are not affecting me as before.

That's an interesting observation, thanks for sharing, Persej. I have noticed a similar effect over a number of recent months. I used to have an unpleasant and disturbing reaction to weather changes ever since I got into a car accident many years ago. Since that trauma, I used to have a strong pulsation in my temples every time a storm was coming our way, probably caused by the changes in the air pressure and, as a result in my intra-cranial pressure.

For a number of months now, I haven't noticed this effect anymore. Wonder if it's connected with the iodine protocol, because there's nothing else particularly new that I was doing healthwise recently.

 

[Persej]

For a number of months now, I haven't noticed this effect anymore. Wonder if it's connected with the iodine protocol, because there's nothing else particularly new that I was doing healthwise recently.

It could be. I also wasn't doing anything else during this time so it must be iodine. I'm glad you feel better, Siberia. :)

He is confused because he doesn't know the iodine research.

Yes, they don't know much iodine effects. My doctor yesterday told me that she would only prescribe Lugols for hyperthyroidism, and that she thinks that if I continue with the iodine that it will have a rebound effect and increase my TSH, even though now it is in normal range. We can see that they are all afraid of iodine.

My TSH level is higher than yours and since my antibodies are negative, I'm keeping the lugol I need for better concentration and energy. I'll repeat my tests too later this year.

I will also do another test in January and report here.

I did my first coffee enema yesterday, but with only the 250ml as a test, and it went fine. Afterwards I felt a small pain in the right part of my abdomen, where the liver is, and also a small spasm once, so it seems that this thing is really activating something. I used one heaping teaspoon for the beginning. I will double the dose next time.

 

[Altair]

I did my first coffee enema yesterday, but with only the 250ml as a test, and it went fine. Afterwards I felt a small pain in the right part of my abdomen, where the liver is, and also a small spasm once, so it seems that this thing is really activating something. I used one heaping teaspoon for the beginning. I will double the dose next time.

You should be careful with coffee enemas if you have such effects. Be sure not to use cheap instant coffee but organic bio coffee since instant coffee is often cross-contaminated with gluten. Coffee is actually toxic to liver in big amounts as far as I know.

 

[Persej]

You should be careful with coffee enemas if you have such effects. Be sure not to use cheap instant coffee but organic bio coffee since instant coffee is often cross-contaminated with gluten. Coffee is actually toxic to liver in big amounts as far as I know.

I doubled the dose yesterday and felt nothing afterwards. I wasn't using instant coffee, but it wasn't organic. I will try to find it for the next time.

One thing I don't understand. Why everybody recommends that we use 1 liter of coffee? I understand that you would want to use such big amount for standard colon cleansing, but for the purpose of liver detox I don't understand why would that be necessary. I mean, when I used the 250ml I had no problem with long retention, but when I used the 500ml I couldn't hold it for long period of time, which kinda defeats the purpose of absorption, as far as I understand it.

Unless the liver can absorb the coffee in a couple of minutes and then release the toxins into the colon also in just a couple of minutes. If that is the case, then it would make sense to use bigger amounts of coffee, but I don't know if the liver can be that fast.

 

[Alana]

I did my first coffee enema yesterday, but with only the 250ml as a test, and it went fine. Afterwards I felt a small pain in the right part of my abdomen, where the liver is, and also a small spasm once, so it seems that this thing is really activating something. I used one heaping teaspoon for the beginning. I will double the dose next time.

You should be careful with coffee enemas if you have such effects. Be sure not to use cheap instant coffee but organic bio coffee since instant coffee is often cross-contaminated with gluten. Coffee is actually toxic to liver in big amounts as far as I know.

Drinking coffee is bad for the liver. A coffee enema on the other hand helps stimulate the proper function and detox of the liver.

One thing I don't understand. Why everybody recommends that we use 1 liter of coffee? I understand that you would want to use such big amount for standard colon cleansing, but for the purpose of liver detox I don't understand why would that be necessary. I mean, when I used the 250ml I had no problem with long retention, but when I used the 500ml I couldn't hold it for long period of time, which kinda defeats the purpose of absorption, as far as I understand it.

Unless the liver can absorb the coffee in a couple of minutes and then release the toxins into the colon also in just a couple of minutes. If that is the case, then it would make sense to use bigger amounts of coffee, but I don't know if the liver can be that fast.

I think that if you can retain it for about 15 minutes, it works as well. I did my my first one after a long time myself yesterday, and I still feel crappy I think it is detoxing, because I sweat a lot too, and I feel a bit better after taking some vit C. I did the coffee enema in the morning after a proper elimination using 2 cups of water and 2 full spoonfuls of organic coffee, then at night I did the probiotics retention. I used half a cup of water for that and a bunch of different probiotics I have in capsule form. I left them in the water for about 8 hrs and kept steering them throughout. I was able to retain it for over an hour, while lying on all sides.

I am not feeling particularly great, as I mentioned, but it is not all that bad either. I think I will do a few more coffee enemas for detox this coming week, and then do a probiotic one again.

Also, have a look at this article about coffee enemas. I found it very helpful and it addresses your points, Altair and Persej:

https://healthimpactnews.com/2015/the-powerful-health-benefts-of-coffee-enema-therapy-that-big-pharma-does-not-want-you-to-know/

Here's what I should have done yesterday after the first coffee enema but I forgot because I felt brain-foggy and tired (from article above)

Most people feel relaxed and refreshed after a coffee enema. Sometimes, however, a person might feel fatigued, nauseous, headachy, or foggy brained after a coffee enema.

As I understand it, the solution to this situation is to take another enema. Apparently, toxins have been stirred up in the liver and gallbladder, but not fully released into the small intestine. The second enema will usually clear this up. If a person is extremely toxic, then sometimes two or three back-to-back enemas are needed to help a person feel good.

 

[Nienna]

This is just a fwiw; looking at a couple different websites for coffee enemas, I've found that it is suggested by a few to use 4 cups of (preferably distilled) water and 2 flat tablespoons of organic coffee. Split the enema into 2 doses. Don't try to do the whole 4 cups in one go. Do about half the amount in the bag/pail, hold and eliminate, then, do the second half. You should also be lying on your right side for a coffee enema.

 

[Gaby]

Here are some useful articles that give an idea of what to expect and how to variate the recipe for the coffee enema:

Coffee Enema
_https://ineedcoffee.com/coffee-enema/

I think they recommend too much coffee though, but you'll find the theoretical concepts very nicely synthesized.

The Coffee Enema – A Liver Cleanser
_http://sawilsons.com/library/the-coffee-enema-a-liver-cleanser/
Based upon Dr. Gerson’s work.[...] Add 3 heaping tablespoons of ground coffee (organically grown coffee is absolutely essential*) to 1 quart of water (preferable distilled). Let it boil lightly for 3 minutes, then simmer for a total of 20 minutes. Keep lid on. Strain and use at body temperature.

The body should be lying down on its right side, with both legs drawn close to the abdomen. Breathe deeply, in order to suck in the greatest amount of fluid into the necessary parts of the colon. It also helps to let all of the air out of the lungs and suck the gut in and out while in this position.

The fluid should be retained for 12 to 15 minutes. It helps to have a clock or watch in view. Dr. Gerson found that all the caffeine is absorbed from the fluid within 12 minutes. The caffeine goes through the hemorrhoidal veins directly into the portal veins and into the liver.

The following explains estimates for the best quantity of water, not too much nor too little. Too much will wash away much needed electrolites from the colon. Too little would not be enough.

Enemas vs. Colonics, Mineral Absorption, and Electrolyte Imbalance

_http://sawilsons.com/library/enemas-vs-colonics-mineral-absorption-and-electrolyte-imbalance/ [...] By contrast, the coffee enema used on the Gerson regimen is 32 ounces, just enough to fill the descending colon, and barely, it at all, reaching into the transverse colon. Mineral absorption is minimally affected, and, of course, the coffee solution itself contains minerals (potassium) which are absorbed along with the caffeine and palmitic acid salts.

It is nearly 1L just to reach the upper limit in the descending colon.

Interesting historical background and track record:

With Friends Like These, Who Needs Enemas? Enemas and Colonics. New Age Nonsense? Think Again.
_http://nutritionresearchcenter.org/healthnews/with-friends-like-these-who-needs-enemas/

Another situation involved a 22-year-old young man with flu-like symptoms who was vomiting with diarrhea and a severe migraine-type headache without relief for five days. On the sixth day, still in pain without relief from symptoms, Acupuncture and herbs from a Chinese medical doctor did not help. His doctor suggested a course of: Immune Support, CalMag Balance and of water enemas followed by three flushes with organic coffee. By the end of this session, all symptoms were eradicated to the complete amazement and appreciation of the patient.

 

[Gaby]

Here is another concept to keep in mind for those experimenting with water enemas:

_http://www.zity.biz/index.php?mx=forum;ox=display;topic=3193

Osmosis. If your enema solution has more salt (hypertonic) than what the normal cells of the body and blood have, it will absorb water from your body. If the solution has less or no salt(hypotonic) it will be absorbed by the body. To try and match the salt content (isotonic) so that water is less likely to be absorbed either way you want to try and get as close to a 0.9% solution.

If you pee too much after a water retention enema, whether it has probiotics or not, you know that you are absorbing too much water because the enema has no salt.

How do you match a physiological solution of 0.9%? Just add one and a half teaspoons of salt per every liter of water:

_http://www.cincinnatichildrens.org/svc/alpha/c/colorectal/question-answer/saline-recipe.htm
We recommend exactly one and a half teaspoons of salt for every liter of water. [0.9%]

We recommend exactly one and a half teaspoons of salt in one liter (1000ml) of water. Putting excessive amounts of salt in the water of an enema may have serious negative consequences, such as seizures and coma. The safest saline solution is that one prepared by a pharmaceutical laboratory. It is called Normal Saline Solution (0.9 percent).

_http://www.zity.biz/index.php?mx=forum;ox=display;topic=3193

FOR A PHYSIOLOGICAL SALT SOLUTION YOU NEED EXACTLY 9 GRAMS PER QUART OR LITER--WEIGH IT. THAT WILL MAKE A 0.9% SOLUTION.

1 1/2 MEASURING TEASPOONS PER QUART OR LITER NOT TABLEWARE will be close.

I never did this to the coffee enema though. As it is explained in Gerson's article, the coffee enema has electrolytes of its own and less than one liter shouldn't reach the traverse colon.

The coffee is circulated through the enterohepatic circulation from the descending colon and rectum vessels to the liver. No need to do any crazy "dance" during your enema, although lying on your right side and breathing deeply is recommended.

 

[Foxx]

FWIW I've been using this enema kit that also comes with specially formulated coffee for enemas and have had good results with it:

https://www.amazon.com/Enema-Approved-Transparent-Re-Usable-Reinforced/dp/B00WZYEVB8/

I've probably used it at least 10 times and it seems to be holding up fine. It was a quick an easy way to get started since it has everything needed (except probiotics for the probiotic enemas).

 

[theos]

This is just a fwiw; looking at a couple different websites for coffee enemas, I've found that it is suggested by a few to use 4 cups of (preferably distilled) water and 2 flat tablespoons of organic coffee. Split the enema into 2 doses. Don't try to do the whole 4 cups in one go. Do about half the amount in the bag/pail, hold and eliminate, then, do the second half. You should also be lying on your right side for a coffee enema.

This split method is how I usually do it. For me though, it does take a lot of effort to hold the second one as long as the first. I used to do them lying on my left side as this is what we were taught in school but lying in the right puts the coffee right at the hepatic vein for easier uptake to the liver.

 

[PERLOU]

Merci Gaby pour votre réponse...

Gaby thank you for your reply. . .