Iodine and Potassium Iodide

[RedFox]

Another thing I'm wondering is about NAC. It's been quite good for me generally but lately I usually have a drop-of-energy sensation after I've taken it. I noticed that I don't have this sensation when I don't take it so that's why I think it is NAC-related. And I think it also makes my stomach feel a bit acidic. I've read that some people experience these symptoms with NAC, so maybe I should also stop it for a few days ??

The thing is that I've been a fat-free sugar loaded vegetarian for a quite a long time, so I guess I still have some time until my system gets truly balanced.

Given you mention being vegetarian for a long time you may be deficient in b12? Making sure you are getting enough magnesium is also important.
From the MTHFR thread:

THINGS TO AVOID

Glutathione and glutathione precursors such as NAC and glutamine, undenatured whey. The glutathione induces immediate active b12 deficiencies, apparently by converting active methylb12 to inactive glutathionylb12 and rapidly excreting it. This then causes the methylfolate to be dumped from the cells in a process called the "methyl trap". This leads to a high serum folate but a low cellular folate causing a severe folate deficiency with increasingly severe symptoms over time. This is often mistakenly called "detox". NAC can produce these same folate and b12 deficiencies also misidentified as "detox".

{I had mixed results here. Glutathionine should definitely be avoided. NAC is more complex. NAC will need magnesium to be taken with it, and shouldn't produce problems after a certain level of healing has occurred.}

 

[focus.evans]

i started taking .5ml of iodine at breakfast in a liquid form 2 weeks ago based on information i read on this site. what dose should I build up to? any guidance and/or feedback is appreciated in advance.

 

[Josi]

i started taking .5ml of iodine at breakfast in a liquid form 2 weeks ago based on information i read on this site. what dose should I build up to? any guidance and/or feedback is appreciated in advance.

Hi focus.evans,

Really it would be best if you read this thread from the beginning and the Iodine books recommended. EveryBODY is a little different and there is no one size fits all. We are all learning what dose works best for us individually along with the co-factor supplements.

 

[Carl]

i started taking .5ml of iodine at breakfast in a liquid form 2 weeks ago based on information i read on this site. what dose should I build up to? any guidance and/or feedback is appreciated in advance.

You don't specify the form of iodine you are taking. 0.5ml could be a huge dose, way more than what you need. Read the whole thread!

 

[Laura]

i started taking .5ml of iodine at breakfast in a liquid form 2 weeks ago based on information i read on this site. what dose should I build up to? any guidance and/or feedback is appreciated in advance.

There is a lot of guidance and feedback through the thread. Please read all of it and consult your healthcare practitioner before you undertake dietary changes.

 

[PERLOU]

Merci pour l'idée du test musculaire avec l'auriculaire et le pouce, voici un lien en Français :
http://www.nutriveil.com/index.php?post/2013/03/29/Le-test-de-kinesiologie-pour-choisir-les-flacons-vibratoires
Je l'ai pratiqué sur moi ce matin, c'est très étonnant mais il a marché pour moi, après avoir posé diverses questions, j'ai demandé pour le LUGOL 12%-5 Gouttes, OK
puis Vitamines B3 complexe, Non,
puis Selenium, OK,
puis Eau salée, OK,
puis Vitamine C, OK...
Donc avant de recommander la Vitamines B3 complexe, je referai ce test...
Merci car étant seule je ne savais pas comment faire...

Thank you for the idea of ​​muscle testing with the little finger and thumb, here's a link in French:
http://www.nutriveil.com/index.php?post/2013/03/29/Le-test-de-kinesiologie-pour-choisir-les-flacons-vibratoires
I practiced it on me this morning, it is very surprising but it worked for me, after asking various questions, I asked for 12% -5 LUGOL Drops, OK
Vitamins B3 and complex, No,
Selenium then, OK,
Salt water and then, OK,
Vitamin C and then, OK ...
So before recommending complex Vitamins B3, I do it again this test ...
Thank you for being alone I do not know how ...

 

[Don Cesar]

Merci Perlou pour le lien en français !
Thank You Perlou for the french link !
I'm waiting for my lugol 5% to beging taking iodine...i am already taking magnésium and vitamine C.
Thank You all for the feed back.

 

[Laura]

Thank you for the idea of ​​muscle testing with the little finger and thumb, here's a link in French:
http://www.nutriveil.com/index.php?post/2013/03/29/Le-test-de-kinesiologie-pour-choisir-les-flacons-vibratoires
I practiced it on me this morning, it is very surprising but it worked for me, after asking various questions, I asked for 12% -5 LUGOL Drops, OK
Vitamins B3 and complex, No,
Selenium then, OK,
Salt water and then, OK,
Vitamin C and then, OK ...
So before recommending complex Vitamins B3, I do it again this test ...
Thank you for being alone I do not know how ...

Well, we've been getting interesting results here. It's surprising that some things that are recommended across the board for everybody turn out not to be so universal after all! Several peeps here in our house tested "no" for the B vites! And some tested "no" for the selenium (and some yes). Same with the niacinamide: some tested "no" but "yes" for regular niacin, and others, vice versa (and some both).

Some tested for high doses of lugols, some for straight potassium iodide, some for both in varying doses. Some tested for very low doses. We've repeated some tests and it's pretty consistent.

So, we started dragging all kinds of things out and testing for them including additional supplements, foods, sweeteners, different types of flour, etc. Very interesting results! It really hits home how different everyone is and how there is no "one size fits all"!

It also seems obvious that things might change for each individual so it might be a good idea to test every week or two for supplements taken regularly to see if they are still needed or dose needs to be changed.

 

[RedFox]

Well that's really interesting! Will give it a try later.
Just speculating, but I wonder if something similar was used to work out ancient herbal/plant medicine?

Something new to report - my perception of time has shifted. I seem to be able to get many more things done than compared to usual - it feels like things are taking a lot of time, but when I check the clock it's hardly moved. In the past an hour or two could have rolled by.

 

[Laura]

Well that's really interesting! Will give it a try later.
Just speculating, but I wonder if something similar was used to work out ancient herbal/plant medicine?

Something new to report - my perception of time has shifted. I seem to be able to get many more things done than compared to usual - it feels like things are taking a lot of time, but when I check the clock it's hardly moved. In the past an hour or two could have rolled by.

It really helps to have someone work with you to do the testing and that you do not know which item you are holding in your hand.

 

[Yas]

Another thing I'm wondering is about NAC. It's been quite good for me generally but lately I usually have a drop-of-energy sensation after I've taken it. I noticed that I don't have this sensation when I don't take it so that's why I think it is NAC-related. And I think it also makes my stomach feel a bit acidic. I've read that some people experience these symptoms with NAC, so maybe I should also stop it for a few days ??

The thing is that I've been a fat-free sugar loaded vegetarian for a quite a long time, so I guess I still have some time until my system gets truly balanced.

Given you mention being vegetarian for a long time you may be deficient in b12? Making sure you are getting enough magnesium is also important.
From the MTHFR thread:

THINGS TO AVOID

Glutathione and glutathione precursors such as NAC and glutamine, undenatured whey. The glutathione induces immediate active b12 deficiencies, apparently by converting active methylb12 to inactive glutathionylb12 and rapidly excreting it. This then causes the methylfolate to be dumped from the cells in a process called the "methyl trap". This leads to a high serum folate but a low cellular folate causing a severe folate deficiency with increasingly severe symptoms over time. This is often mistakenly called "detox". NAC can produce these same folate and b12 deficiencies also misidentified as "detox".

{I had mixed results here. Glutathionine should definitely be avoided. NAC is more complex. NAC will need magnesium to be taken with it, and shouldn't produce problems after a certain level of healing has occurred.}

Thanks RedFox, I've been reading a bit more about it and it makes sense. As I posted somewhere else before, I felt really sick once after taking a B-Complex, but I've been taking the B-Right complex from Jarrow Formulas and I haven't noticed anything bad with it. What you mention about magnesium is interesting, because I forgot to take my magnesium some evenings last week, and I felt the NAC-related drop-of-energy those days. Do you think it might be better to take NAC in the evenings when I take magnesium?

I've been reading some more about about specific nutrients, like selenium, and what I can see is exactly what Laura is saying that there is no "one-size-fits-all". Because each nutrient interacts with one another and by taking too much of one you can decrease another one and make more harm than good - some even become toxic when combined, etc...

This is why something as muscle testing seems to be a good way to find out what you actually need, IMO. But maybe one needs to be able to pay close attention to the body and to be without anticipation for it to be the most accurate possible, right? That's not something I can say I'm good at yet. Doing it with someone else and not knowing what you're testing should increase accuracy, as Laura said.

A little update on the iodine for me: Yesterday, I didn't have any trouble sleeping around my normal sleeping time. I had a lot of dreams and I woke up in the middle of the night but I fell back asleep quite easily. I woke up feeling great today, no pains or swellings, no drowsiness, no brain fog... wow!

I think I'll continue with this dose for now: 4 drops of Lugol's 5%, taking 3 in the morning and 1 at noon to avoid being too energized in the evening.

 

[Konstantin]

I found some videos where its explained that while doing Muscle testing , that instead of holding the thing you want to test in your hand, that you or the person that you are working with can ask questions.

_https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hM_b1tGts7U

I tried few times both ways, but i guess i need to practice little more, because all responses look the same to me. Maybe should i try with another person.

I think that it will be nice if someone who knows how to do a correct muscle testing ,to make a small video so the others can see directly how can they test some supplements or some food.

I`ll try experimenting and see how can i do this technique.

 

[RedFox]

Do you think it might be better to take NAC in the evenings when I take magnesium?

That shouldn't be a problem, but do leave enough time to see if you have any energy drop from taking it.
What I did was take a dose of magnesium when I took NAC when I was still having problems with it.

 

[Mrs.Tigersoap]

So, we started dragging all kinds of things out and testing for them including additional supplements, foods, sweeteners, different types of flour, etc. Very interesting results! It really hits home how different everyone is and how there is no "one size fits all"!

The results are amazing indeed. I've been using it almost daily for the last 12 years. It's helped so many people around me (in my practice but family members and friends, too). Do you remember, back in 2011, in the Life Without Bread thread, I asked you why you did not muscle test, because I was in fact so sure you knew that test!

Laura,

I remember reading that you knew how to muscle test. Maybe I'm stating the obvious and you've done this already, but have you tried muscle testing to know what you can and cannot eat? As well as the quantities you can have for each of these foods?

And indeed, one size does not fit all at all! I rarely ever consider anything safe anymore for anyone, it's so tailor-made. Magnesium makes me wired and have muscle spasms, the very thing it's supposed to help with, for example. Sometimes people test OK for canned carrots but not for organic ones!!

And then, besides the testing, there are corrections that are also possible. Holding specific points on the body with the substance on the CV-6 (just below the navel) helps relieve allergies or intolerances during or before they occur. There are also allergy taps for that (see below). They work like a system detox, really. I've used it many times with great results, notably to correct my cat hair allergy. I also want to add that perhaps the first things to test are the things people crave or really like. Most of the time, people are allergic to them!

Here are several threads where peeps might find interesting info, to further their testing:

Applied Kinesiology
Anti-candida, Inflammation, Heavy Metals Detox and Diet - there is also a link to a video of the allergy tap
Comments and warnings about diet supplementation

I tried few times both ways, but i guess i need to practice little more, because all responses look the same to me. Maybe should i try with another person.

Indeed self-testing is not very reliable, especially with verbal questioning.

 

[Palinurus]

Anti-candida, Inflammation, Heavy Metals Detox and Diet - there is also a link to a video of the allergy tap

I went there to watch it but found the YT message: This video is unavailable. We're sorry. I live in The Netherlands BTW so it might be a region problem.