Bloodnoise said:
Canadians are followers. Like a very good herd.
Please refrain from sweeping generalizations based upon one's despicable government. Many Canadians are mindless drones who gobble up the media pap and march in lockstep with our Zionist lickspittle government but many are not.
Fwiw, just exploring the “generalization” thinking theme being made in many instances, which might be more in line with this thinking reference:
http://cassiopedia.org/glossary/Sheep
Gurdjieff saw that Human Beings;
- Follow each other mechanically. - Are easily manipulated to be moved in a certain direction or vector. - Have little awareness of their surroundings or the predicament they are born into.
If in talking about "them", Canadians, Americans, French et al, despite the alignments with opposition parties to that of the aggressor main or even the hidden lobbies on issues that greatly concern (or should concern) the citizens from A-Z. Somewhere within the issues, people are asleep and as such, the “generalization” references might be closer to the truth of matters then we might like to admit, osit.
As G states 'In Search Of the Miraculous', which could relate to taking issue with generalizations, like, hey wait a second, you could be talking about me, my friends and family who are awake, type of thing. Yet much of mankind cannot be seen as otherwise or we would not be in this mess. At least to my thinking there are not great continuous examples of this not being so.
In order to understand what the difference between states of consciousness is, let us return to the first state of consciousness which is (physical) sleep. This is an entirely subjective state of consciousness. A man is immersed in dreams, whether he remembers them or not does not matter. Even if some real impressions reach him, such as sounds, voices, warmth, cold, the sensation of his own body, they arouse in him only fantastic subjective images. Then a man wakes up. At first glance this is quite a different state of consciousness. He can move, he can talk with other people, he can make calculations ahead, he can see danger and avoid it, and so on. It stands to reason that he is in a better position then when he was asleep. But if we go a little more deeply into things, if we take a look into his inner world, into his thoughts, into the causes of his actions, we shall see that he is almost the same state as when he was asleep.
And it is even worse because in sleep he is passive, that is he cannot do anything. In the waking state, however, he can do something all the time and the results of all his actions will be reflected upon him or upon those around him. And yet he does not remember himself. He is a machine, everything with him happens. He cannot stop the flow of his thoughts, he cannot control his imagination, his emotions, his attention.
He lives in a subjective world of 'I love, 'I do not love,' 'I like,' 'I do not like, 'I want,' 'I do not want,' that is, of what he thinks he likes, at what he thinks he does not like, of what he thinks he wants, of what he thinks he does not want. The real world is hidden from him by a thick wall of uncontrolled imagination.
He lives in waking-sleep. He is asleep. What is called "clear consciousness" is actually sleep and a far more dangerous sleep than sleep at night in bed. Let us take some event in the life of humanity. For instance, war. What does it signify? It signifies that several millions of sleeping people are destroying several millions of other sleeping people.
They would not do this, of course, if they were to wake up. Everything that takes place is owing to this sleep. Both states of consciousness, sleep and the (false) waking state, are thus equally subjective. Only by beginning to remember himself does a man really awaken. And then all surrounding life acquires for him a different aspect and a different meaning. He sees that it is a life of sleeping people, a life in sleep. All that men say and do, they say and do in sleep. All this can have no value whatsoever. Only awakening and what leads to awakening has a value in reality. How many times have I been asked whether wars can be stopped? Certainly they can. For this it is only necessary that people should awake. This seems a small thing. It is, however, the most difficult thing there can be because this sleep is induced by our so-called education and maintained by the whole surrounding society
What he says at the end, “whole society” could seem like a generalization, yet think he was rather quite correct. Being STS by our very natures gives this some added truth; notwithstanding the good intentions by a very few awake STO orientated beings.
loreta said:
For example people from Quebec are less sheep than the rest of Canada. But this is my impression, I am maybe wrong.
But in general the Canadian politics is very near to that of USA. We used to say that when USA sneeze Canada have pneumonia.
It is always very tiring to live near America...
Not sure that Quebec would be any less, although the might have a more open orientation. As G indicates, whether we talk about America, Spain, Ontario, BC or Quebec, or other places in the world, our overall condition is of sleep, osis. This then it seems is the same for each, continuously or at one time or another, which has possibly contributed to our overall condition by our very programmed natures.
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But I want to clear out something right away, people in Canada are not all encouraging such behaviors from our PM (quite the contrary). So it would be nice if you could not generalize too much and 'condemn' the whole country as it would be playing their 'game of division'.
Remember, a government's decision is not always the reflect of the population's will. 'Democracy' as expressed by these individuals is merely a vague illusion to my eyes. And what's going on right now dosen't happen for no reason. There is clearly an agenda behind it, osit.
Good ol' Jack Layton must be rolling in his grave seeing what Harper is doing. *Sigh*
Peace. No offense taken.
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Think it is so that “division” is a tool being used; always has been. However, if the population had “will”, would we just then not cooperate with the authoritarians? Because we don’t do this, some might be putting their faith in ol’ Jack Layton or in the Green Party, Liberals and even the Communist party and Marijuana leadership. Before it was a done deal in the US, a Ron Paul comes to mind, yet all these, in one form or another, would likely bend to the developed devolution systems constructed; especially of pathological minds. So this seems to me in our fragmented totality, exactly the same, not a condemnation exactly, as we are the same - human, have many of the same inner afflictions and have little in the way of cohesive will of truth in all manners – asleep and greatly invested in that condition.
