Is WW3 inevitable?

[Ennio]

Speaking of the Cuban Missile Crises, there is an interesting comparison being made in this article _http://rt.com/op-edge/israel-rocket-obama-missile-crisis-444/ to the current situation.

Interesting article but again it is nonsense to compare Kennedy with Obamaboum. They are the opposite. One is devil, the other was a good person.

I think that a good appraisal of both Kennedy and Obama's real intentions and character fall outside of the scope of the article. The piece's focus was mainly about the agitating forces surrounding both conflicts that sought to provoke and instigate the conflict via missiles. Having said this, it is now interesting to read Kniall's post and question whether or not the Israeli missiles were, in fact, missiles...

 

[ella]

Will you share your opinion on Putin with me, please?

Putin is taking a stand against the West because the West are infringing on Russia's 'interests'. If the West wasn't doing this, you wouldn't hear a peep from Putin in terms of critcism about the West. Note that Putin has really only ever criticised the West when Russia was first threatened or attacked in some way by other nations (usually the 'West'). Just because it is politic, right now, for Putin to take the side of those criticising the US and Europe, does not mean that he shares the same beliefs as the people. I'd say he almost certain does not. There are many situations where it is in the interest of evil people to take a "stand" for noble causes or speak out against lies and abuses, and yet it does not mean that those evil people have suddenly become 'good'. Personally, I am happy to make use of comments by people like Putin to further our own cause of exposing the simple truths to ordinary people, but I would never trust him or look to him to solve the world's problems.

Thank you for your response. :)
Actually I do understand what you have just said I understood it even before I wrote my post. I did a lot reading and watching recently and I realized many things, and this realization sunk deeper into me, which made me feel horrible and, I do not know, disgusted. I just wanted to try be objective and not to say, that I know for sure, somebody is evil, for I might be wrong. Especially after Ceasar – everybody believed he was evil, and it occurred to be otherwise. But I guess it was just my little wishful thinking. I am still a bit naive, but I am getting over it.

In the meantime I came across video: The Road to World War 3
which in very clear manner explains the whole situation in Middle East, and both Russian and American parts in it.
It is translated into many languages. Since “it’s time for everyone to start opening up and sharing what they see with others”, this very informative video could also be shared, I do not know, see for yourself. It is short.

_http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_950368&feature=iv&src_vid=qtImFA3hso8&v=HP7L8bw5QF4

As to Putin, here comes video: Obama Requests 15,000 Russian Troops for FEMA Region III

_https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RplP2rU0dVY

An unsettling report prepared by the Emergencies Ministry (EMERCOM) circulating in the Kremlin today on the just completed talks between Russia and the United States in Washington D.C. says that the Obama regime has requested at least 15,000 Russian troops trained in disaster relief and "crowd functions" [i.e. riot control] be pre-positioned to respond to FEMA Region III during an unspecified "upcoming" disaster.

According to this report, this unprecedented request was made directly to Minister Vladimir Puchkov by US Department of Homeland Security (DHS) Director Janet Napolitano who said these Russian troops would work "directly and jointly" with her Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), part of whose mission is to secure the continuity of the US government in the event of natural disasters or war.

Important to note, this report says, is that FEMA Region III, the area Russian troops are being requested for, includes Washington D.C. and the surrounding States of Maryland, Pennsylvania, Virginia and West Virginia, "strongly suggesting" that the Obama regime has lost confidence in its own military being able to secure its survival should it be called upon to do so.

In his public statements, yesterday, regarding these matters Minister Puchkov stated, "We have decided that the US Federal Emergency Management Agency and Russia's Emergencies Ministry will work together to develop systems to protect people and territory from cosmic impacts," and further noted that his meeting with DHS Director Napolitano also covered other kinds of natural emergencies, such as recent years' extreme weather in both Russia and United States.
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[Yozilla]

Oh men - it is not easy to be a politician these days; not even the president - all seems to get debunked so quickly...

This is not a fine point. We know how these things are done. Although the “Government Assessment” is being sold to the media as an “intelligence summary,” it is a political, not an intelligence document. The drafters, massagers, and fixers avoided presenting essential detail. Moreover, they conceded upfront that, though they pinned “high confidence” on the assessment, it still fell “short of confirmation.”

from:

_http://www.globalresearch.ca/u-s-military-and-intelligence-officials-to-obama-assad-not-responsible-for-chemical-attack/5348576

 

[Niall]

As to Putin, here comes video: Obama Requests 15,000 Russian Troops for FEMA Region III

_https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RplP2rU0dVY

The source for that is David Booth aka 'Sorcha Faal', so it's disinformation.

http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,519.60.html

 

[Joe]

Further to our speculation about a Syria attack being used as a cover to blame a meteorite impact on something else. A few weeks ago this was announced:

The electric grid, as government and private experts describe it, is the glass jaw of American industry. If an adversary lands a knockout blow, they fear, it could black out vast areas of the continent for weeks; interrupt supplies of water, gasoline, diesel fuel and fresh food; shut down communications; and create disruptions of a scale that was only hinted at by Hurricane Sandy and the attacks of Sept. 11.

This is why thousands of utility workers, business executives, National Guard officers, F.B.I. antiterrorism experts and officials from government agencies in the United States, Canada and Mexico are preparing for an emergency drill in November that will simulate physical attacks and cyberattacks that could take down large sections of the power grid.

 

[happyliza]

http://www.onenewspage.us/n/World/74w12k1n0/EU-agrees-Assad-used-chemical-weapons.htm

It appears that Kerry is spreading his lies as usual. I am surprised the EU bought it though. I feel that you may well be right Perceval as I think that not ALL EU countries would totally agree to the false videos, and that Kerry must be convincing them of the above expected 'something else' for them to unanimously 'agree'.

I also think that the UN inspectors report will be tampered with to produce the 'evidence' they need.

I also agree that a false flag - like the sinkng of a ship etc will happen to bring them further into the war
- we just have to look at history ie Pearl Harbour, the Israeli's blowing up the US ship, etc etc.

 

[Nević Nenad]

I would be surprised if the EU didn't bought it :) Whole of the world must agree, and its not that anyone really ask anyone. When psychopaths have some project rolling there isn't the force in this world that could divert them. If nothing else simply because they are machines that don't "know" anything else. Plus their wishful thinking and tunnel vision. Maybe only the Pope is really sincere in his thought about this. I would say that they will start with the bombing during this week.

But the good thing, and really a surprise is that the majority of the "ordinary" people didn't bought it. The "leaders" and "governments" are really not that important in the big picture, little, ordinary man is.

 

[H-KQGE]

Further to our speculation about a Syria attack being used as a cover to blame a meteorite impact on something else. A few weeks ago this was announced:

The electric grid, as government and private experts describe it, is the glass jaw of American industry. If an adversary lands a knockout blow, they fear, it could black out vast areas of the continent for weeks; interrupt supplies of water, gasoline, diesel fuel and fresh food; shut down communications; and create disruptions of a scale that was only hinted at by Hurricane Sandy and the attacks of Sept. 11.

This is why thousands of utility workers, business executives, National Guard officers, F.B.I. antiterrorism experts and officials from government agencies in the United States, Canada and Mexico are preparing for an emergency drill in November that will simulate physical attacks and cyberattacks that could take down large sections of the power grid.

Interestingly in the UK (London area at least) a show called "Blackout" arrives this Monday. It's billed as "a drama documentary exploring the effects of a devastating cyber-attack on Britain's national electricity grid, combining fictional scenes with footage recorded during real blackouts."
So of course the plans to cover up "celestial intentions" via the never ending "war on terror" would factor in all the most relevant permutations, the ease with which to send out certain requirements to their "agents in the field"/television executives (as in "start making a documentary about this, & include this, & that... before this period") would explain how we suddenly get bombarded by films & documentaries in periods leading up to, during, & probably some time after the event(s).
Listening to the daily lies on the news is draining enough, the propaganda from tv shows is too much, that's why i don't take much notice of them. Recently (increasingly feels like all the time) the amount of advertising of "war on terror" related tosh has had me just turning off the telly immediately, unfortunately i missed a recent (last week in fact) "young people's debate" on the events in Syria. It was on bbc3/4 around 3am (for the UK viewers) but i caught it in the last ten minutes, but it seemed ok, as you can imagine, it was very opinionated.

I'll have to "suck it up" as they say & just keep my eyes & ears (more) open with these propaganda shows.

 

[mabar]

Further to our speculation about a Syria attack being used as a cover to blame a meteorite impact on something else. A few weeks ago this was announced:

The electric grid, as government and private experts describe it, is the glass jaw of American industry. If an adversary lands a knockout blow, they fear, it could black out vast areas of the continent for weeks; interrupt supplies of water, gasoline, diesel fuel and fresh food; shut down communications; and create disruptions of a scale that was only hinted at by Hurricane Sandy and the attacks of Sept. 11.

This is why thousands of utility workers, business executives, National Guard officers, F.B.I. antiterrorism experts and officials from government agencies in the United States, Canada and Mexico are preparing for an emergency drill in November that will simulate physical attacks and cyberattacks that could take down large sections of the power grid.

I heard in the news yesterday _http://noticieros.televisa.com/mexico/1309/secretarios-marina-defensa-se-reunen-empresarios/ that the Mexican corporate coordinator council (Consejo Coordinador Empresarial CCE) had a private meeting with the national defense and marine secretaries; dealing with concerns of national violence (extorsions, kidnaps, and some sort of extorsion rent from the organized crime against small/medium business all around the country, etc).

I think that something is heating up, that reunion was unusual.

 

[aragorn]

In the meantime I came across video: The Road to World War 3
which in very clear manner explains the whole situation in Middle East, and both Russian and American parts in it.
It is translated into many languages. Since “it’s time for everyone to start opening up and sharing what they see with others”, this very informative video could also be shared, I do not know, see for yourself. It is short.

_http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_950368&feature=iv&src_vid=qtImFA3hso8&v=HP7L8bw5QF4

I just finished watching this. It was pretty good, IMO. Short and right to the point. The guy even describes the leaders as psychopaths, though he doesn't expand on that topic - which could have given people more insight of what else these critters want besides money. But sure, I think it's well made and worth sharing and 'make go viral'.

The guy has also a video about the Syrian conflict, and it was shared also on SOTT:

The Syrian War What You're Not Being Told
_http://youtu.be/dkamZg68jpk

There's also his(?) website called StormCloudsGathering: _http://stormcloudsgathering.com

At least on the surface, this guy seems to be well informed and is coming up with some pretty good stuff.

 

[Carl]

Further to our speculation about a Syria attack being used as a cover to blame a meteorite impact on something else. A few weeks ago this was announced:

The electric grid, as government and private experts describe it, is the glass jaw of American industry. If an adversary lands a knockout blow, they fear, it could black out vast areas of the continent for weeks; interrupt supplies of water, gasoline, diesel fuel and fresh food; shut down communications; and create disruptions of a scale that was only hinted at by Hurricane Sandy and the attacks of Sept. 11.

This is why thousands of utility workers, business executives, National Guard officers, F.B.I. antiterrorism experts and officials from government agencies in the United States, Canada and Mexico are preparing for an emergency drill in November that will simulate physical attacks and cyberattacks that could take down large sections of the power grid.

This 'EMP attack' propaganda seems to be ramping up more and more, was just looking around a few disinfo sites where it seems posts on the topic are becoming more frequent, too.

Could this really be it, the 'doozie' coming before the end of this year? The tension in the air is getting so thick you could cut it with a knife, and it all has me rather worried and excited.

 

[happyliza]

Interesting thoughts. I also watched some videos from stormcloudsgathering and thought they made alot of sense and urging people to network and do things which is good. Especially as he rightly predicted the escalation of the events to WW3.

The blackout and cyber threats are also possible from this war too. It would be uite plausible for countries allied with Syria to cause any possible internal problems for the perpetrators to contend with 'back home' and would make tactical sense.

Ages ago I also read somewhere that China? had the capability to know out communication satalites? I don't see why power grids could not be compromised either. The war will get dirty, retaliation after retaliation, especially as they will refuse to give in until the end. Just like they rush in to same - as we are witnessing.

Luckily with the delays - it is allowing time for a lot of truth to get disseminated in as many ways as possible. Really calling for people power now. Though short of controlling the weapons and those pressing the 'buttons' I don't know how we can stop the military might - especially as the ships etc are all in position. A 'false' release of just one missile will be all that it will take to ignite the inferno.

Of course all the 'elite' have already left out of harm's way by now - especially in Israel - or down to their luxury bunkers.

I also notice that there are not so many comet sightings around here as in USA etc - perhaps the seat of the evil negative energy attracting them there, though 65% psycho's in Israel should attract a few.

I was half expecting 2014 from the C's, but again 'time' and predictions don't marry.

With no real confidence in the UN teams 'genuine' findings I think we are now only down to Congress to prevent this happening - that is if they wait that long.

 

[kenlee]

Of course all the 'elite' have already left out of harm's way by now - especially in Israel - or down to their luxury bunkers.

I also notice that there are not so many comet sightings around here as in USA etc - perhaps the seat of the evil negative energy attracting them there, though 65% psycho's in Israel should attract a few.

If you look at the universe in terms of Gurdjieff's Ray Of Creation where there are 3 octaves or "rays" of radiation (1st from Absolute to sun then second from the sun to earth and then third from the earth to moon) then there might be some kind of information pattern (interference patterns) formed between the three "rays" interacting with each other and this may in some way carry/transmit information from the highest to the lowest points of the universe. So anything that is highly biased towards service to self (such as the U.S.) would probably in some way "interfere" with the intent and will of this pattern adding to it in some way and this may determine how these comets are directed. Just a theory though, don't really know of course.

Regarding Israel, which is a very small country, they may be responsible for much of the larger STSness of the U.S., much in the same way a semiconductor transistor (which is nothing more then a gated switch) will amplify/output a much large amount of current so as to to drive higher current output devices with just a very small amount of input current driving the input of the device. Similarly Israel may be like that small amount of input current driving the larger U.S. to produce a much larger negative output and the universe responds to that larger differential energy output and then balances things out accordingly with a kind of directed intelligence (I guess). Then from the higher levels where, perhaps, information and energy are united they separate in the lower levels/worlds 'in time' (correspondingly represented also at etheric/physical levels and all like that) and the comets which, like all matter which has energetic (etheric) extensions into the higher levels (not to get too new agey about all this) are also directed accordingly to balance it all out or something like that.

 

[luke wilson]

Something is up with all this stop/start rhetoric when it comes to Syria.

The very first week before Cameron got handed a defeat by the parliament, the PTB were literally itching to attack Syria. The rhetoric was at a fever pitch. Then Cameron gets defeated, unexpectedly, an event that no serving prime minister has had to endure in more than 100 years when it comes to matters of war. This puts Obama on the back foot, his coalition is missing its usual partner in crime. France steps up but I don't even know what the French have to offer in the way of anything. Have these guys ever been involved in a serious conflict? How are they even going to communicate with the americans, they speak 2 different languages! Anyways, the french president is talking like a seasoned pro... Meanwhile Obama switches to congress as the UN isn't playing ball. All the while the main media outlets don't really know what to do, on the one hand they can't totally ignore the public discontent but on the other they are trying to sell us the PTB story. All I can see is 'stalling'. The option of war is open but they could just as easily 'close' it. They are keeping us, in the middle ground, almost like a movie director will keep his 'audience' in suspense.

Are they waiting for something? Is all this political shenanigans some kind of mask as suggested by others? It could very well be. If it is a mask for something, surely it has to be ISON as it is the one 'big' player scheduled to make an appearance before the close of the year. Maybe it has friends tagging along, maybe the stream it'll leave behind will prove to be catastrophic for the earth, maybe it'll have some weird interaction with the Sun. It seems the only logical conclusion left. No way is what is happening now in the political sphere 'organic'. This is theater.

 

[Archaea]

Just FYI, Australia's election is over, the Liberal party is in power, and a guy called Tony Abbott is prime minister. My impression of the Liberal party is that they are like the republicans in the U.S.