Israel-Palestine War: Hamas Breaks Out of Gaza, Israel Responds With Genocide

[iamthatis]

Mikhaila Peterson interviewed Norman Finkelstein! Maybe there's some hope for them yet? Or maybe after Jordan's genocidal tantrums on Twitter, it's calculated PR designed to save the Peterson family's corporate image as a family of enlightened philosophers... whatever the reason, it's good of her to have him on.

Anyways, in this clip below Finkelstein is not taking into account a false flag/LIHOP option, but he does make a pretty unimpeachable point that one needs to consider the horrific concentration camp conditions in Gaza in order to understand the Oct 7th attacks. Seems like it may be a decent antidote for conservatives/right-wingers who are rejecting any and all Gaza solidarity as somehow equivalent to another woke movement thing.

https://x.com/CensoredMen/status/1716984827231014966?s=20

Full interview below (haven't watched it yet). She's also giving airtime to David Brog... I don't know the guy, but I'm guessing he's likely another shill for genocide in Palestine.

 

[KaWaiAwaAwa]

Actually, much of the plot is stolen from Shane, one of my all time favourite westerns. They don't make them like that anymore.

Despite the grimness of the current situation, it may be no bad thing to dig out a favourite old movie and watch it to take one's mind off all of the bad news coming out of the Middle East at the moment. Afterall, the C's did say to get out the pop corn.

If we really are facing Armageddon but you still want a good laugh, then I would recommend Dr Strangelove. You can't top the ending of that movie.

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By the way, that is American actor Andy Devine in the picture above, who was the stage coach driver in John Wayne's famous movie Stage Coach.

I learned to aim pistols as a boy using the Shane technique with the finger along the barrel.

 

[KaWaiAwaAwa]

I learned to aim pistols as a boy using the Shane technique with the finger along the barrel.

You might have to read the book to understand what I said there.

 

[mabar]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1717017330285531292

What really happened on 7th October?

Evidence is now emerging that up to half the Israelis killed were combatants; that Israeli forces were responsible for some of their own civilian deaths; and that Tel Aviv disseminated false ‘Hamas atrocities’ stories to justify its devastating air assault on Palestinian civilians in Gaza.

Two weeks after the Hamas breakout assault on Israel on 7 October, a clearer picture of what happened – who died, and who killed – is now beginning to emerge.

Instead of the wholescale massacre of civilians claimed by Israel, incomplete figures published by the Hebrew newspaper Haaretz show that almost half the Israelis killed that day were in fact combatants - soldiers or police.

In the interim, two weeks of blanket western media reporting that Hamas allegedly killed around 1,400 Israeli civilians during its 7 October military attack has served to inflame emotions and create the climate for Israel’s unconstrained destruction of the Gaza Strip and its civilian population.

Accounts of the Israeli death toll have been filtered and shaped to suggest that a wholesale civilian massacre occurred that day, with babies, children, and women the main targets of a terror attack.

Now, detailed statistics on the casualties released by the Israeli daily Haaretz paint a starkly different picture. As of 23 October, the news outlet has released information on 683 Israelis killed during the Hamas-led offensive, including their names and locations of their deaths on 7 October.

Of these, 331 casualties – or 48.4 percent - have been confirmed to be soldiers and police officers, many of them female. Another 13 are described as rescue service members, and the remaining 339 are ostensibly considered to be civilians.

While this list is not comprehensive and only accounts for roughly half of Israel’s stated death toll, almost half of those killed in the melee are clearly identified as Israeli combatants.

There are also so far no recorded deaths of children under the age of three, which throws into question the Israeli narrative that babies were targeted by Palestinian resistance fighters. Of the 683 total casualties reported thus far, seven were between the ages of 4 and 7, and nine between the ages of 10 and 17. The remaining 667 casualties appear to be adults.

The numbers and proportion of Palestinian civilians and children among those killed by Israeli bombardment over the past two weeks – over 5,791 killed, including 2,360 children and 1,292 women, and more than 18,000 injured - are far higher than any of these Israeli figures from the events of 7 October.

Revisiting the scene

The daring Hamas-led military operation, codenamed Al-Aqsa Flood, unfolded with a dramatic dawn raid at approximately 6:30 AM (Palestine time) on 7 October. This was accompanied by a cacophony of sirens breaking the silence of occupied Jerusalem, signaling the start of what became an extraordinary event in the occupation state’s 75-year history.

As per the spokesperson of Hamas' armed wing, the Al-Qassam Brigades, around 1,500 Palestinian fighters crossed the formidable Gaza-Israel separation barrier.

However, this breakout was not limited to Hamas forces alone; numerous armed fighters belonging to other factions such as Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ) later breached the armistice line, along with some Palestinians unaffiliated with any organized militia.

As it became apparent this was no ordinary resistance operation, hundreds of videos quickly flooded social media, most of which have been viewed by The Cradle, depicting dead Israeli troops and settlers, fierce gunfire battles between various parties, and Israelis being taken captive into Gaza.

These videos were either taken on the phones of Israelis, or were released by Palestinian fighters filming their own operation. It wasn’t until hours later that more gruesome and downright dubious allegations began to surface.

Unsubstantiated allegations of 'Hamas atrocities’

Aviva Klompas, a former speechwriter for the Israeli mission to the UN, was the first Israeli of note to spread the claim that there were reports of “Israeli girls being raped and their bodies dragged through the street.”

She posted this on X at 9:18 PM (Palestine time), on 7 October, although an op-ed Klompa published with Newsweek at 12:28 AM (Palestine time), on 8 October, made no mention of any sexual violence.

Klompas is also the co-founder of Boundless Israel, a “think-action tank” that works “to revitalize Israel education and take bold collective action to combat Jew-hatred.” An “unapologetically Zionist” charitable group that works to promote Israeli narratives on social media.

The one case touted as proof of rape was that of a young German-Israeli woman named Shani Louk, who was filmed face down in the back of a pickup truck and was widely assumed dead.

It was unclear whether the fighters filmed with Louk in the Gaza-bound vehicle were members of Hamas, as they do not sport the uniforms or insignia of the Al-Qassam troops identifiable in other Hamas videos - some even wore casual civilian clothing and sandals.

Later, her mother claimed to have evidence that her daughter was still alive, but had suffered a severe head wound. This rings true with information released by Hamas that indicated Louk was being treated for her injuries at an unspecified Gaza hospital.

Complicating matters further, on the day these rape allegations arose, Israelis would not have had access to this information. Their armed forces had not yet entered many, if not most, of the areas liberated by the resistance and were still engaged in armed clashes with them on multiple fronts.

Nevertheless, these rape claims took on a life of their own, with even US President Joe Biden alleging, during a speech days later, that Israeli women were “raped, assaulted, paraded as trophies” by Hamas fighters. It is important to note that The Forward’s article on 11 October reported that the Israeli military acknowledged they had no evidence of such allegations at that point.

When the army later made its own allegations of decapitations, foot amputations, and rape, Reuters pointed out that “the military personnel overseeing the identification process didn't present any forensic evidence in the form of pictures or medical records.” To date, there is no credible evidence of these atrocities that has been presented.

Other outrageous allegations, such as the story of Hamas “beheading 40 babies' made headlines and the front pages of countless western news outlets. Even Biden claimed to have seen “confirmed photos of terrorists beheading babies." The claims trace back to Israeli reserve settler and soldier David Ben Zion, who has previously incited violent riots against Palestinians and called for the West Bank town of Huwara to be wiped out. No evidence was ever produced to support these claims and the White House itself confirmed later that Joe Biden had never seen such photos.

The Hamas plan

There is little to no credible evidence that Palestinian fighters had a plan to - or deliberately sought to - kill or harm unarmed Israeli civilians on 7 October. From the available footage, we witness them engaging primarily with armed Israeli forces, accounting for the deaths of hundreds of occupation soldiers. As Qassam Brigades’ Spokesman Abu Obeida made clear on 12 October:

“Al-Aqsa Flood operation aimed to destroy the Gaza Division (an Israeli army unit on Gaza’s borders) which was attacked at 15 points, followed by attacking 10 further military intervention points. We attacked the Zikim site and several other settlements outside the Gaza Division headquarters.”

Abu Obeida and other resistance officials claims that the other key objective of their operation was to take Israeli prisoners that they could exchange for the approximately 5,300 Palestinian prisoners held in Israeli detention centers, many of whom are women and children.

Hamas Deputy Head of the Political Bureau of Saleh Al-Arouri, in an interview after the operation, stressed: “We have a large and qualitative number and senior officers. All we can say now is that the freedom of our prisoners is at the doorstep.”

Both sides play this game: Since the start of its military assault on Gaza, Israel has rounded up and imprisoned more than 1,200 Palestinians in the occupied West Bank. To date there have been 38 prisoner exchange deals between the resistance factions and Tel Aviv – deals that Israelis often resist to the very last minute.

While these kinds of testimonies trickle out, reports are emerging that Israeli authorities have dialed up the mistreatment, torture, and even killing of Palestinian prisoners in their custody – a violation of the Geneva Conventions, which ironically, a non-state actor like Hamas appears to have followed to the letter.

In relation to the events of 7 October, there are certainly some videos depicting possibly unarmed Israelis, killed in their vehicles or at entrances to facilities, so that Palestinian troops could gain access.

There are also videos which show the fighters engaging in shootouts with armed Israeli forces, where there were unarmed Israelis taking cover in between, in addition to videos of fighters shooting toward houses and throwing grenades into fortified areas. Eyewitness testimony also suggests grenades were thrown into bomb shelters, though by whom is unclear.

Even at the Israeli “peace rave”, which has been cited as the single deadliest attack committed by Palestinian fighters during their operation, videos emerged that appeared to show Israeli forces opening fire through a crowd of unarmed civilians, toward targets they believed to be Hamas members. ABC News also reported that an Israeli tank had headed to the site of the festival.

An Israeli massacre in Kibbutz Be’eri?

In its report on the events at Be'eri Kibbutz, ABC News photographed artillery pieces resembling Israeli munitions outside a bombed-out home. The reporter, David Muir, mentioned that Hamas fighters, covered in plastic bags, were found in the aftermath.

Additionally, videos of the scene show homes that appear to have been struck by munitions that Hamas fighters did not possess. Muir reported that about 14 people were held hostage in a building by Palestinian fighters.

A Hebrew-language Haaretz article published on 20 October, which only appears in English in a must-read Mondoweiss article, paints a very different story of what went down in Be’eri that day. A Kibbutz resident who had been away from his home - whose partner was killed in the melee - reveals stunning new details:

“His voice trembles when his partner, who was besieged in her home shelter at the time, comes to mind. According to him, only on Monday night (9 October) and only after the commanders in the field made difficult decisions — including shelling houses with all their occupants inside in order to eliminate the terrorists along with the hostages — did the IDF complete the takeover of the kibbutz. The price was terrible: at least 112 Be’eri people were killed. Others were kidnapped. Yesterday, 11 days after the massacre, the bodies of a mother and her son were discovered in one of the destroyed houses. It is believed that more bodies are still lying in the rubble.”

Photo evidence of the destruction in Be’eri corroborates his account. Only the heavy munitions of the Israeli army could have destroyed residential homes in this manner.

Aftermath or Be'eri Kibbutz after the fire power of the two sides ceased

Hamas behaviors: Evidence vs allegations

Yasmin Porat, a survivor from Kibbutz Be’eri, said in an interview for an Israeli radio-show, hosted by state-broadcaster Kan, that Israeli forces “eliminated everyone, including the hostages,” going on to state that “there was very, very heavy crossfire” and even noted tank shelling.

Porat had attended the Nova rave and testified to the humane treatment throughout different interviews she conducted with Israeli media. She explained that when she was held prisoner, the Hamas fighters “guarded us”, telling her in Hebrew to “Look at me well, we’re not going to kill you. We want to take you to Gaza. We are not going to kill you. So be calm, you’re not going to die.” She also added the following:

“They give us something to drink here and there. When they see we are nervous they calm us down. It was very frightening but no one treated us violently. Luckily nothing happened to me like what I heard in the media.”

Increasingly, and to the horror of some Israeli officials and news outlets, Israeli eyewitnesses and survivors of the bloodshed are testifying that they were treated well by Palestinian fighters. On 24 October, Israeli state broadcaster Kan bemoaned the fact that prisoner Yocheved Lifshitz, released by Hamas the day before, was allowed to make statements live on air.

As she was handed over to Red Cross intermediaries, the elderly Israeli female captive was caught on camera turning back to squeeze the hand of her Hamas captor in her last goodbyes. Lifshitz’s live broadcast, in which she spoke about her two-week ordeal, “humanized” her Hamas captors even further as she recounted her daily life with the fighters:

“They were very friendly toward us. They took care of us. We were given medicine and were treated. One of the men with us was badly injured in a motorbike accident. Their (Hamas) paramedics looked after his wounds, he was given medicine and antibiotics. The people were friendly. They kept the place very clean. They were very concerned about us.”

More questions than answers

It is essential to recognize that in many reports by western journalists on the ground, the majority of information regarding the actions of Hamas fighters comes from the Israeli army - an active participant in the conflict.

Emerging evidence now indicates that there is a high probability, especially due to the scale of the infrastructural damage, that Israeli military forces could have deliberately killed captives, fired on incorrect targets, or mistaken Israelis for Palestinians in their firefights. If the only source of information for a serious claim made is the Israeli army, then it has to be taken into account that they have reason to conceal cases of friendly fire.

Israeli friendly fire was rampant, even in the days that followed, from an army with very little actual combat experience. In the city of Ashkelon (Askalan) on 8 October, Israeli soldiers shot dead and shouted insults at the body of a man they believed to have been a Hamas fighter, yet later realized they had executed a fellow Israeli. This is just one of three such examples of friendly fire in one day, resulting in the killing of Israelis by their own troops.

Amid the fog of war, parties to the conflict have different perspectives on what occurred during the initial raid and its aftermath. It's not disputed that Palestinian armed groups inflicted significant losses on the Israeli military, but there will be plenty of ongoing debate regarding everything else in the weeks and months to come.

An independent, impartial, international investigation is urgently needed, one that has access to information from all sides involved in the conflict. Neither the Israelis nor the Americans will agree to this, which itself suggests that Tel Aviv has much to conceal.

In the meantime, Palestinian civilians in Gaza endure ongoing, indiscriminate attacks with the most sophisticated heavy weapons in existence, living under the persistent threat of forced and potentially irreversible displacement. This Israeli air blitz was made possible only by the flood of unsubstantiated ‘Hamas atrocities’ stories that media began to circulate on and after 7 October.

There will be an investigation. Something for the better must come out. Although, it seems that international institutions have been taken over- reference Pandemia, the hope is the last thing to die, as the saying goes.

 

[mabar]

Had seen too many videos of Palestinian children, toddlers, babies injured, killed, suffering. And there were Israelian kids killed too.

Too much suffering to innocent little ones. May their parents, silbings, families, friends find solace some day.

See this image somewhere, it's beautiful.

 

[Puma]

Megatron vía X

The United States does not want a war with Iran, but if Americans are attacked in the Palestinian-Israeli conflict zone, they will respond - Blinken​

But what would a real war with Iran look like?

Iran already has a nuclear bomb and that is a fact. Why it is silent about it is because it wants to delay the possibility of sanctions. That is why nuclear weapons are completely out of use.

Iran already has a nuclear bomb and that is a fact. Why it is silent about it is because it wants to delay the possibility of sanctions. That is why nuclear weapons are completely out of use.

The US can bombard Iran with long-range missiles, causing minimal damage, since most of Iran's bases are underground.

In response, Iran will bomb all American illegal military bases in the Middle East, and with hypersonic missiles it can easily sink American aircraft carriers in the Mediterranean Sea.

If the USA decides on a ground offensive, it should do so through Kuwait. Knowing that Kuwait is bypassed by Iran, all ships can be easily sunk, it can hardly happen.

So if the US wants to attack Iran by land, it will have to defeat all the pro-Iranian military militias from Israel through Syria, in order to get close to Iran at all, and that is almost impossible.

Therefore, even if the US decides to attack Iran, it will buy a ticket home from the Middle East. And that means that a direct collision between Iran and the United States is very difficult for now.

Militarily the US is far more advanced than Iran, but for any success, the US needs to share a land front with Iran like Ukraine and Russia. Iran is currently a militarily technologically advanced country and cannot be defeated with missiles.



I like the maps, they give context to military strategies. Is the US bluffing?
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[hiker]

I think it’s important to remember the level of brainwashing that people have gone through in Israel and the USA.
I remember watching a documentary about an Israeli high school class that took a trip to Auschwitz. The students were convinced that the world still hates Jews and they feared the Polish people there would try to harm them like the holocaust was still ongoing. Unfortunately I cannot find this documentary again. Imagine from their perspective, constantly being reminded of the holocaust to the point that it forms their whole view of other nations. It would be easy to see how one could fall into hate and think of it as self defense when brainwashed into thinking the world hates you for being Israeli.

I visited Auschwitz in 2005, when I was traveling to Prague through Poland with a friend. It was a harrowing experience, and all of the visitors were clearly shaken, other than a group of Israeli youngsters (they were waving real sized Israel flags); it felt as if they were on a parade. I thought that they were overly zealous and gung-ho, and disturbed the somber atmosphere of the place.

I guess it might have been due to the brainwashing and being young/naive, and perhaps being convinced that the other nations still hate Jews, that lead them to have such ”bravado”.

(An aside: when we took a train from Warsaw to Krakow, there was a couple from the US sitting in the same compartment with us. If I remember correctly, the man was a lawyer, and he started to chat about 9/11 being an inside job, and mentioned e.g. how there were no remains of the Pentagon -plane found. Naturally, I thought the guy was crazy.
However, a seed was planted and later I did searches on the net, came across the ”Pentagon Strike” -web site, and the video within really hit me like a sledgehammer. Continuing on, I eventually ended up finding SOTT and the forum.)

 

[PERLOU]

Silvano Trotta Officiel

On monte encore d'un cran dans l'ignoble. Maintenant ils annoncent en direct que nous allons assister à un génocide ! John Kirby porte-parole du département de la défense US, l'annonce aux journalistes. Ces malades dégénérés vont nous conduire à une 3ème guerre mondiale.

t.me

On monte encore d'un cran dans l'ignoble. Maintenant ils annoncent en direct que nous allons assister à un génocide ! John Kirby porte-parole du département de la défense US, l'annonce aux journalistes.
Ces malades dégénérés vont nous conduire à une 3ème guerre mondiale.

We're going one step further into the ignoble. Now they are announcing live that we are going to witness a genocide! John Kirby, spokesperson for the US Department of Defense, announced this to journalists.These degenerate sick people will lead us to a 3rd world war.

 

[PERLOU]

Silvano Trotta Officiel

Plus de 2 300 enfants sont morts dans la bande de Gaza depuis le début de l'escalade du conflit, plus de 5 300 enfants ont été blessés - UNICEF

t.me

Plus de 2 300 enfants sont morts dans la bande de Gaza depuis le début de l'escalade du conflit, plus de 5 300 enfants ont été blessés - UNICEF

More than 2,300 children have died in the Gaza Strip since the start of the escalation of the conflict, more than 5,300 children have been injured - UNICEF

 

[PERLOU]

Silvano Trotta Officiel

Selon le président Egyptien Abdel Fattah el-Sissi, il craint qu'Israël ne se préoccupe pas seulement de la lutte contre le Hamas, mais aussi de l'expulsion définitive des Palestiniens. Cela pourrait détruire la paix dans la région. OUI !!!! C'est le but poursuivi par le gouvernement israélien ...

t.me

Selon le président Egyptien Abdel Fattah el-Sissi, il craint qu'Israël ne se préoccupe pas seulement de la lutte contre le Hamas, mais aussi de l'expulsion définitive des Palestiniens. Cela pourrait détruire la paix dans la région.
OUI !!!! C'est le but poursuivi par le gouvernement israélien ! Seuls les propagandistes fonts semblants d'être dupes !

According to Egyptian President Abdel Fattah el-Sissi, he fears that Israel is not only concerned with the fight against Hamas, but also with the definitive expulsion of the Palestinians. This could destroy peace in the region.YES !!!! This is the goal pursued by the Israeli government! Only propagandists pretend to be fools!

 

[Antony]

Interesting historical document. (Sorry if it was posted before).


The document in front of you is the Balfour Declaration, dated 1917. This is an agreement between Britain and Lord Rothschild, with which the transfer of Palestine to the Zionists began.

 

[Princess Lux 🌷]

 

[loreta]

You might have to read the book to understand what I said there.

Maybe you can tell us a little bit about this book ? To us to understand your sentence.

 

[Puma]

The Pentagon is deploying two carrier strike groups, eleven Burke-class destroyers, a number of Ticonderoga-class cruisers, amphibious assault ships, THAAD and Patriot missile defense systems, multiple squadrons of fighter jets, strategic bombers, and undisclosed assets to the Middle East.

The Pentagon expects Iranian proxies to continue to target U.S. troops in the region and has already stated that they will respond "decisively."

What's the probability that this escalates into a war between the United States and Iran?

PENTAGON: "Between October 17th and the 24th, U.S. and coalition forces have been attacked at least ten separate times in Iraq and three separate times in Syria via a mix of one-way attack drones and rockets...

We know that the groups conducting these attacks are supported by the IRGC and the Iranian regime. We are seeing the prospect for more significant escalation against U.S. forces and personnel across the region in the near term coming from Iranian proxy forces and, ultimately, from Iran.

So, by virtue of our announcement over the weekend, we are preparing for this escalation, both in terms of defending our forces and responding decisively."

https://twitter.com/x/status/1717072618053107761

 

[ApotheosisMMC.]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1717017330285531292

What really happened on 7th October?





































There will be an investigation. Something for the better must come out. Although, it seems that international institutions have been taken over- reference Pandemia, the hope is the last thing to die, as the saying goes.

This is circulating, although I doubt that he is a former member of the IDF as it is said here (it is seen that he is from Israel at least), he has some obvious-valid points regarding what happened on October 7 (Apparently the original account where this came from was deleted: @lateefabader1):

IDF Veteran Goes Thermonuclear on Netanyahu, Reveals Hamas Attack Was ‘Inside Job’

The Hamas attack on Israel was an “inside job” carried out with the full knowledge and support of the Israeli government, according to an Israeli Defense Force veteran who served on the Gaza border.
“We are all trying to make sense of what happened on October 7, when we all know Gazans came in and basically slaughtered a thousand Israelis and kidnapped a bunch, all in about 7 hours,” said the veteran, before unleashing an astonishing torrent of truth that leaves the official narrative in tatters.

“So I want to reverse engineer this a little bit to help you understand why I believe this was an inside job.”

“First of all, we will start with September 1st. The Israeli government confiscated the weapons of the security teams in the Gaza belt communities. This was done against the will of those security teams. Why this happened, nobody knows.

“Fast forward to September 10th, the municipalities received reports, these are civilians, they received reports of increased tensions on the Gaza border on Jewish holidays. These span from Yom Kippur to Shemini Atzeret, which was on Saturday.

“Those same heads of municipalities if they should cancel their festivities in light of the warnings of increased tensions on the border with Gaza. The army said no, don’t cancel anything, it appears we are heading into a period of calm.
“Now, you can assume that the Shin Bet (Israeli Security Agency) did not know about this attack. But that is highly improbable. The state of Israel is probably the most advanced surveillance state in the world. The Gaza border is probably the most heavily surveilled. The Shin Bet, who somehow knew about a guy who had corona in a toy store and tracked him all the way to a soccer stadium during the days of corona, somehow didn’t know about this massive attack planned by thousands of Gazans on pick up trucks and hang gliders.
“Do you really believe that? Are you really that stupid? If you do, I have a bridge to sell you.

“Do you know how long it takes an attack helicopter to get activated and blow up any of those pick up trucks or hang gliders that invaded Israel? Less than 5 minutes. It all could have been over. It could have been a matter of 5 minutes. Instead they had 7 hours to kill thousands and bring back hostages alive, unopposed.

“This is not a breach. That is an inside job.

“And if it is not an inside job, well then that is even worse. Because that means that the IDF is the most incompetent military that ever walked the face of the earth. And now we are supposed to trust these people to invade Gaza. Under the command of a military that a) didn’t see this coming and b) was too incompetent to react to a bunch of pick up trucks invading Israel.

“You tell me which one is worse. That it was an inside job? Or that it was incompetent?

“And oh, by the way, now that America is coming with aid, do you really think Israel needs American aid to invade Gaza? Gaza? Their air force is hang gliders, their ground troops are pick up trucks. They don’t even have a tank. And Israel needs American aid to fight them. Are you serious? You don’t think there is anything fishy going on here?”

https://twitter.com/x/status/1717082782898241918

IDF Veteran Goes Thermonuclear on Netanyahu, Reveals Hamas Attack Was 'Inside Job'

The official narrative is in tatters

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