Israel-Palestine War: Hamas Breaks Out of Gaza, Israel Responds With Genocide

  • 29 October 2023
    17:11 GMT
    "Former Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett has called on the current government not to commit more troops to a full-scale invasion of Gaza, where Hamas fighters will “exact a heavy blood price from us.”

    "In a post on X (formerly Twitter), Bennett recommended that Israel create a two-kilometer “security strip” around the enclave and maintain a complete blockade on fuel supplies until Hamas surrenders, all while continuing to pound Gaza with airstrikes."

    “Hamas leadership will find itself in a dilemma,” Bennett wrote. “If [Hamas leader Yahya] Sinwar does not disarm he will go down in history as the one who destroyed his country and brought a historical disaster on his people.”
 
Secret Military

U.S. QUIETLY EXPANDS SECRET MILITARY BASE IN ISRAEL

Government documents pointing to construction at a classified U.S. base offer rare hints about a little noted U.S. military presence near Gaza.
On October 7, however, when thousands of Hamas rockets were launched, Site 512 saw nothing — because it is focused on Iran, more than 700 miles away.
The $35.8 million U.S. troop facility, not publicly announced or previously reported, was obliquely referenced in an August 2 contract announcement by the Pentagon. Though the Defense Department has taken pains to obscure the site’s true nature — describing it in other records merely as a “classified worldwide” project — budget documents reviewed by The Intercept reveal that it is part of Site 512. (The Pentagon did not immediately respond to a request for comment.)
The U.S. military employs similar euphemistic language to characterize the new facility in Israel, which its procurement records describe as a “life support area.” Such obfuscation is typical of U.S. military sites the Pentagon wants to conceal. Site 512 has previously been referred to as a “cooperative security location”: a designation that is intended to confer a low-cost, light footprint presence but has been applied to bases that, as The Intercept has previously reported, can house as many as 1,000 troops.
Site 512, however, wasn’t established to contend with a threat to Israel from Palestinian militants but the danger posed by Iranian mid-range missiles.

 

Riot police deployed amid anti-Jewish protest at Russian airport​

"The unrest was reportedly prompted by rumors that had spread online of incoming “Jewish refugees”


And this is just the beginning. We are likely to see more "anti-Semitic" events around the world when people should be protesting against Zionism.

Muslims within the Republic of Dagestan in Southwestern Russia are currently Storming the International Airport in the Region in order to reportedly “Kill Israelis and Jews” after Rumors began that an Israeli Aircraft was preparing to land at the Airport; this has been going in for the last several hours, with Pro-Hamas Supports having Stormed a number of Hotels and other Public Locations across the Region on the Hunt for Israelis.

Like ISIS, the Zionist regime tied the dead body of a Palestinian fighter to a car and pulled him on the ground

This is Ayelet Shaked, the Zionist Justice Minister in 2015, who perfumed herself with a fragrance called Fascism and who says that in reality fascism is democracy, said things like this about the Palestinians:

"Palestinians have to die and their houses should be demolished. They are our enemies and our hands should be stained with their blood."

"The Palestinians should disappear along with their homes, where they have raised these snakes. Otherwise, they will raise more little snakes."

This is Zionism and its apartheid, where self-styled fascists become ministers of justice.

 
Riot police deployed amid anti-Jewish protest at Russian airport
"The unrest was reportedly prompted by rumors that had spread online of incoming “Jewish refugees”

Sometimes I can see RT, sometimes I cannot, like now. Some updates of the event at Russian Telegram Channel, translation with deepl
❗️Глава North Ossetia said that what is happening in Dagestan is a provocation planned from outside.

According to Sergey Menyailo, the upsurge of xenophobia is being fueled from outside Russia. He urged not to believe fakes, calls for protests and to keep a "cool head":

"I understand the feelings of Muslims who want to express support for Palestine. But support does not mean that one should show aggression towards people of any nationality! It's a completely different thing."

🟩 RT in Russian

One of the Internet resources that calls on the residents of Dagestan to take to the streets is a channel from the net of fugitive ex-Duma deputy and foreign agent Ilya Ponomaryov.

RT reported earlier that Ponomaryov is the curator of the so-called Russian Volunteer Corps, which carried out a sabotage in the Bryansk region in March.

Today, after appeals on social media, protesters broke into the territory of Makhachkala airport, including the airport building and the runway. The unauthorized rally gathered because of the arrival of a flight from Tel Aviv, the rioters were looking for arriving Israelis.

🟩 RT in Russian
Red Wings and Pobeda flights to Moscow and Surgut have been postponed until the situation at Makhachkala airport is normalized, Rosaviatsia reported.

The Red Wings flight from Nizhnevartovsk to Makhachkala was directed to Mineralnye Vody. Pobeda's Moscow-Makhachkala plane will land in Vladikavkaz.

Earlier, there were riots at the airport: a crowd, dissatisfied with the arrival of a flight from Tel Aviv, broke into the terminal building and onto the runway.

🟩 RT in Russian
The government of Dagestan has asked residents of the republic to temporarily limit traffic on the Makhachkala-Kaspiysk highway amid the events at Makhachkala airport.

It is reported that the situation is under control, the security services are working at the site of the unrest.

🟩 RT in Russian
Israeli authorities are following developments in Dagestan, where a protest is taking place at Makhachkala airport.

This is stated in a joint statement by the Israeli Foreign Ministry and the office of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

Israel counts on Russian law enforcement agencies to provide protection for Israelis and Jews.

🟩 RT in Russian
 

Does Israel have a right to defend itself?

  • Francesca Albanese says Israel’s assault on Gaza is without legal merit as “self-defense cannot apply in a context of military occupation”
  • UN special rapporteur on Palestine says UN Charter only “entitles a state to repel an attack based on its intensity and scope,” meaning response should be “proportional”
  • Wants allies of Israel to ask Netanyahu what he meant by talking of changing the Middle East as this would “make another form of resistance emerge”
“The right to self-defense that Israel has invoked under Article 51 of the UN Charter is quite clear. It entitles a state to repel an attack that comes from another state. So, the action necessary to repel the attack must be based on its intensity and scope. And it must be proportional,” she said on the Arab News current-affairs show “Frankly Speaking.
Albanese added: “There is jurisprudence of the International Court of Justice that says that self-defense cannot apply in a context of military occupation when, in this case, Israel is occupying another state, another people.”

Explaining the context of a “proportional” response, she said that “in 24, 30 hours, Israel had regained control of its territory. So, as of then, the right of self-defense in its own territory — if self-defense is to be applied — was exhausted.”
She added: “Does it mean that Israel had to passively leave after what Hamas had inflicted? No, as I said, the protection of Israeli citizens had to be insured, and the military presence of Hamas had to be repelled. Which was done.”

Frankly Speaking: Does Israel have a right to defend itself?

 
Art. Mafia- Awakening to reality. (?)

BED BATH & BEYOND SCION PRESSURED ARTISTS TO RETRACT GAZA CEASEFIRE CALL IN ARTFORUM LETTER
The editor who published the letter in Artforum was fired after the wealthy art patron Martin Eisenberg’s behind-the-scenes push.

After
thousands high-profile artists and curators signed an open letter expressing solidarity with Palestinians and supporting a ceasefire in Gaza, published in the magazine Artforum on October 19, the public pushback was swift. The following day, the magazine posted a public response signed by prominent gallerists denouncing the original letter as “one-sided.”

Behind the scenes, however, powerful art dealers and gallerists who control the cultural and monetary tides of the art world began a private campaign to force some of the biggest names on the letter to retract their support, according to a half dozen sources, including letter signatories as well as others informed about the influence campaign.

In a statement to the New York Times, Velasco said, “I’m disappointed that a magazine that has always stood for freedom of speech and the voices of artists has bent to outside pressure.” Artforum ex editor-in-chief David Velasco .

’ They are willing to destroy careers, destroy the value of artworks, to maintain their unofficial ban on free speech about Palestine.”Hannah Black, an artist and writer.
Another artist, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to protect their livelihood, said the affair with the Artforum letter showed that many of the gallerists and collectors whose money makes the art world turn did not understand artists’ subject matter.
“It really shows that they never cared about the art,” the artist said. “My art, like a lot of the people facing this, has always been political, about oppression and dispossession.”

 
This is how artificial intelligence interprets the situation in the Gaza Strip.

IA Gaza.png

Session April 14, 2018
(L) Is there anything... I guess this is a stupid question, but: Is there anything that can stop this madness?
A: No, there isn't and you wouldn't want to stop it!
Q: (L) Why wouldn't you want to stop it?
A: Cleanliness.

Session 25-09-1999
A: Well, it is important not to worry about that which cannot be changed and is trivial in the really big picture. If the 3rd density surface realm of your locator will soon be split into pieces, why do you care, or more to the point, why are you so frightened of it? You are supposed to go beyond this 3rd density SAS thinking.
Q: You also once said there were "good guys" and "bad guys".
A: From a chosen perspective.
Q: Does that mean that the "good guys" and the "bad guys" CHOSE to take on these roles for the sake of this Cosmic Drama?
A: Yes, to a certain extent. It also means that for the fish and cockroaches, etc., "you are the bad guys". Subjectivity reigns in SAS!
 
Interesting use of words by the german defence minister.

Pistorius sieht Gefahr eines Kriegs in Europa
[emphasis and blue text mine]
(German) Defense Minister on ZDF
Pistorius sees danger of war in Europe



Defense Minister Pistorius calls for a new mentality in society in view of crises like the one in the Middle East. There is a danger of war in Europe, he says on ZDF.

The conflict in the Middle East and Russia's war against Ukraine should also have consequences in German society, demands German Defense Minister Boris Pistorius. The SPD politician said in the ZDF program "Berlin direkt":
"We have to get used to the idea again that the threat of war in Europe could be imminent."
Boris Pistorius, Minister of Defense
Germany must be capable of defense, he said, and that applies to both the Bundeswehr and society: "We must become capable of war," Pistorius said. At the same time, he said, Germany would do everything in its power in the Middle East conflict to ensure that there was no further escalation.

Too slow at the "turn of the times"?
Pistorius rejected accusations that the German government is too slow in the so-called turnaround. "You can't get much faster than that." Not only had a special fund of 100 billion euros been set up for the Bundeswehr, but structures had also been changed.

Arguably, however, the Bundeswehr had been neglected for a long time, Pistorius said: "All that has been screwed up in 30 years, sorry if I say so, and run down, cannot be made up for in 19 months." But Germany will be in a very different position by the end of this decade.

Habeck calls for end to debt brake {german vice chancellor}
Earlier, Economics Minister Robert Habeck had spoken out in favor of more money for the Bundeswehr. The Green politician said that this must be debated in good time - and before the special fund expires.
"If we take the turn of the times seriously, Germany must do more for its security. To do this, we will need a lot of money for the Bundeswehr."
Robert Habeck, Minister of Economics
Habeck also brought new loans into the conversation, i.e., the end of the debt brake. "The debt brake has good reasons and it applies to the work of this coalition, but we should think beyond the day and consider whether the political rules we have given ourselves still fit the changed times," Habeck said in the "Frankfurter Allgemeine Sonntagszeitung."

Finance Minister Christian Lindner (FDP) in particular had repeatedly spoken out against the end of the debt brake. It looks like a new conflict in the traffic light coalition.
 
This is how artificial intelligence interprets the situation in the Gaza Strip.

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I will make some comments, removing C's quotes you attached. What does this picture even means?
  • Hope will come over the ruins (one wing in one picture which is useless or two wings in another picture which is fine). Hope for Whom? What form this Hope takes? There are MANY ways to interpret it.
    • Hope for Whom? the Palestinian Victims or Psychopathic Zionists who interpret what is written in 2400 year old texts in Egypt as a literal truth that is valid for the current situation and hope erase Palestine and create greater Israel.
      • If it is for Palestinian victims, Israel will get destroyed because of the Arab pushback, over which they will rebuild.
      • If it is for Psychopathic Zionists, who is rooting for fulfillment of so-called Prophecy, they will get their own land of "Israel"
If Artificial Intelligence is based on data that is fed to it ( i.e. Prophecy fulfillment of greater Israel, larger netizen's feelings) , it can still Garbage In, Garbage Out (GIGO).
Session April 14, 2018

(L) Is there anything... I guess this is a stupid question, but: Is there anything that can stop this madness?
A: No, there isn't and you wouldn't want to stop it!
Q: (L) Why wouldn't you want to stop it?
A: Cleanliness.

Session 25-09-1999
A: Well, it is important not to worry about that which cannot be changed and is trivial in the really big picture. If the 3rd density surface realm of your locator will soon be split into pieces, why do you care, or more to the point, why are you so frightened of it? You are supposed to go beyond this 3rd density SAS thinking.
Q: You also once said there were "good guys" and "bad guys".
A: From a chosen perspective.
Q: Does that mean that the "good guys" and the "bad guys" CHOSE to take on these roles for the sake of this Cosmic Drama?
A: Yes, to a certain extent. It also means that for the fish and cockroaches, etc., "you are the bad guys". Subjectivity reigns in SAS!
I understand you put C's comments as a interpretation to what AI picture picture. I was NOT willing to attribute knowledge of non-linear dynamics of the Universal balance C's mention to the "Artificial intelligence". Even if it is netizens' Hopes depicted as a little angel, it is just a Hope or unconscious bias. Yes, one can argue that Universe will react to people's hopes and that is what AI is depicting. May be , May be not. It is in these gray areas that "confusion, diffusion, drain of energy" happens.

What I am trying to say is texts or images can be interpreted many ways according to the observers. For infotainment, that is fine.
 
More likely somewhat less that 2,500 years... near all if not all the stories claiming greater antiquity in the Septuagint were either stolen and then adapted or invented in a multitude of forms by way of disguised repetition. A novel as history in other words, one designed by intent to appear most ancient whilst being nothing but ruse and sleight of literary hand, cooked up by pupils of Plato's dictum at crafty work, thereby inventing by candle light a people of substance out of thin air...
I chose the figure of over 3,000 years for good reason. I am going to distinguish here between when the Torah or scriptures may have been written and when genuine historical events occurred. I am also using the C's as my source for the latter.

The C's have told us that the founder of Judaism was in fact a composite person who was both Abraham, Jacob and Moses. They confirmed Laura's view that Abraham/Moses was based in Egypt and led a small scale exodus (only 600 plus people) out of Egypt during the reign of Pharaoh Akhenaten, who is viewed by mainstream archaeologists as having reigned during the mid 14th century BC - which could though be as much as 200-300 years out. Abraham/Moses took the Pharaoh's wife, Queen Nefertiti, with him into the desert who then became Abraham's biblical wife Sarah (which could have been an Egyptian name "Sa-Ra"). In my view, her oldest daughter Princess Meritaten also became the biblical Hagar, Sarah's Egyptian maid servant and the mother of Abraham's son Ishmael. Hence, the C's confirmed that Abraham and Moses were not mythical personages but one individual instead. The C's also told us that Abraham, having been fooled by the Reptilians into believing he was communicating with his god Yahweh, eventually became tyrannical and was deposed as the leader of the group who are known in the Bible and to history as the Israelites, Joshua replacing him as leader. After several generations of wandering in the desert as nomadic pastoralists (the C's said as Bedouin Arabs) they fought a long series of battles against the various tribes or minor city states/kingdoms (such as that of the Philistines) who occupied or were located in the land of Canaan (later Palestine), which were all vassal states of Egypt, until under the leadership of King David, the people who emerged as the Israelites (no doubt a confederation of Semitic groups who lived in that region), established the Kingdom of Israel. It is at this point that history and archaeology take over, for their is archaeological evidence to support the existence of King David and the Kingdom of Israel and the C's have also confirmed that he really existed. In case you are not aware, most of what I have said here was covered in this extract from the transcripts:
Q: (L) Well, it seems that Nefertiti disappeared from history in the 12th year of the reign of Akhenaten. He then died in the 17th year of his reign. If Nefertiti was Sarah, where was she during this five year period, if Akhenaten died going after her when Abraham/Moses carried her off?
A: Locked up.
Q: (L) So, Nefertiti is Sarah and Abraham came and rescued her somehow, is that correct?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) And that happened at the time of the passage of the comet cluster, between 1627 BC and 1588 BC - dramatic events which is what enabled that particular drama to take place...
A: Yes.
Q: (L) So Abraham retrieved Sarah and Akhenaten went after them and drowned in the river or something?
A: Close.

Q: (L) So, from 1627 BC to 1588 BC - that's 39 years - almost exactly 40 years of "wandering in the desert," so to say. So they must have escaped when Thera blew and forty years later, the comets came. What was Abraham and his crew doing during that time?
A: Bedouins.
Q: (L) How many were in this tribe?
A: 623.
Q: (L) So it wasn't multiple thousands of people as the Bible would have us believe. Okay, is Abraham the same individual as is presented as his son, Isaac?
A: No.
Q: (L) Did Sarah, known to the Egyptians as Nefertiti, give birth to a child when she was 90 years old?
A: No.
Q: (L) Was Sarah the mother of Isaac?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Why did Abraham want to sacrifice his son?
A: Did not happen.

Q: (L) Who was Hagar the Egyptian?
A: Princess of Egypt.
Q: (L) Was she Sarah's maid?
A: No.
Q: (L) Was she Sarah's daughter?
A: Right nurture to.
Q: (L) What do you mean? I don't understand.
A: Sara's daughter by Akhenaten.
Q: (L) Did Abraham have a child by Hagar also, his wife's daughter by another man?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Well, that's pretty incestuous. Did Sarah actually get so jealous of her own daughter's child that she demanded that Abraham abandon her?
A: Close.

Q: (L) When did this tribe finally arrive in Israel and settle down. Was this after 40 years living as Bedouins?
A: Pretty much.
Q: (L) Well, I still have to deal with this King David issue. He was like a Robin Hood. Now, in another direction, what's this deal about Abraham talking to God. Is this where the whole monotheism came in?
A: Close.
Q: (L) So, it started out with Abraham and his tribe. Did he have reinforcements of his Levite brothers who came and joined his tribe from Hittite land?
A: Close.
Q: (L) Are there any details of this story that I haven't covered that I ought to?
A: David was a Levite.
Q: (L) Was he of the line of Abraham?
A: No.
Q: (L) Did he come from "Hittite land?"
A: Close.
Q: (L) How many generations before he was born did his family come to the area of Palestine?
A: 5.
Q: (L) Were they relatives of Abraham?
A: Somewhat.
Q: (L) Distantly related. So, what did David do? Came along and gathered the people together?
A: Yes.

Hence, there is definitely a core of truth to the legends of Abraham/Moses/Jacob and King David, although these have been much distorted and embellished as you correctly note, particularly when the Jewish scriptures were being collated (and rewritten) during the Babylonian exile of the Jewish people in the 6th century BC. Many, if not most, of the biblical stories were almost certainly passed on by oral tradition, as is true of groups like the Celts, who wrote little of their history down, and, indeed, the Bedouin Arabs who still live in Jordan and have a rich oral history. However, there is plenty of archaeological evidence to support the case for a long series of battles having been fought in Canaan during the period in question*, including the destruction of the ancient city of Jericho, the walls having been brought down by an earthquake according to the C's (was this a manmade quake as in the biblical account or a Reptilian intervention?).

I would certainly agree that many of the biblical stories may well have been inventions or borrowings from other cultures, e.g. , Samson, a Judge from the Tribe of Dan (the Danaans of the Iliad and later the Tuatha de Danaan of Irish legend perhaps?), is clearly a copy of the Greek hero Heracles, who may in turn have been based on the Sumerian Gilgamesh. However, you cannot simply dismiss the whole biblical story of the Israelites, who would eventually go on to become the Jewish people, as a complete work of fiction. The C's would certainly not agree with that viewpoint. If I have misunderstood you though, I do apologise.

*I can back this up with sources if you wish to investigate it further​
 
I note what you are saying but do you think then that the Hungarian, Czech, Austrian and Croatian UN ambassadors when voting against a humanitarian ceasefire in Gaza, which basically was a vote giving the IDF carte blanche to continue its genocide, were reflecting public sentiment in these countries? I would be very surprised if that were the case. Were they possibly the subject of threats made behind the scenes by Israel or the USA. That may make more sense to me. However, the position they took still seems odd given that countries which are far more openly pro-Israel, like Britain and France (who have even sent forces to the region in support of Israel), abstained.​
We don't know exact nuts and bolts of what has happened-why each country voted or abstained. We can only speculate thinking there is a logic or hierarchical order. But that expected order is not visible in this case. I think It is like a slip off w.r.t expected order. In any case, UN resolutions are teeth-less unless big 5 unanimously tries to enforce it, which is NOT the case here.

I have seen similar type of "against the grain" voting in rare cases over things that is not enforceable. so, I prefer to not read too much into this. If it is enforceable thing or Israel consider it as essential, it will be whole different ball game.
 
I would certainly agree that many of the biblical stories may well have been inventions or borrowings from other cultures, e.g. , Samson, a Judge from the Tribe of Dan (the Danaans of the Iliad and later the Tuatha de Danaan of Irish legend perhaps?), is clearly a copy of the Greek hero Heracles, who may in turn have been based on the Sumerian Gilgamesh. However, you cannot simply dismiss the whole biblical story of the Israelites, who would eventually go on to become the Jewish people, as a complete work of fiction. The C's would certainly not agree with that viewpoint. If I have misunderstood you though, I do apologise.

*I can back this up with sources if you wish to investigate it further​

I think we actually can dismiss the Old Testament - if that data suggests that we can. Here is a great discussion about the fabulation of the OT with Russell Gmirkin:


And in this interview below, also with Gmirkin, the crew really gets into the Greek (yes, Greek!) origins of the OT.


RG: Plato said that to found a nation, you should do lots of investigation in the law codes of other nations. And yet, he said that when you create a new nation, you get to convince everybody, the citizens, that these nations are ancient, that they are divinely given, that they’ve been unchanged since the dawn of time when they were given to the founding generation. You’ve gotta to sell them on that. Or else, you know, your nation will not be successful. So he advocated extensive, ongoing research in international law, but covertly, by the ruling class. You don’t let the general populace know that that’s what you’re doing. These people would go out to other nations and investigate their law codes, and bring back new information to use. When they came back, they had to not only keep it a secret, they had to tell everybody that their nation’s laws were the best on pain of death.

He had a very good program for not only generating constitutions and laws but also selling it as given by a divine law-giver like Zeus or Apollo, who gave the laws to Crete and Sparta, other nations that were successful in having long-lived constitutions. A lot of the Greek nation-states, they believed that their god have given them their laws. As Plato said, there is this superstition that develops where you never want to give up those divine laws that are part of your heritage. You’re very loyal to them, you’ve grown up with them. That psychology – it was very successful among the ancient Greeks, and it’s been successful in the 2000 years ever since. I have to take my hat off to Plato, he was a genius, but a rather dark genius and we can really blame all of our belief systems on him.

HK: That’s one of the interesting things I wanted to bring up about this whole dynamic. I want to make a few points. First, this totally flips all prior conceptions of the origin of the Hebrew Bible on their head of course. Now, so instead of the direction going from the Hebrew books to the Greeks, now it’s the Greeks to the Hebrews. But then, very quickly after, around 270 BC, when you argued the Pentateuch was composed and translated, very soon after that, like within a century, you have this situation with the Maccabees, the Hasmoneans, where there’s this growth of the Hellenistic Jews. Then you have this kind of nationalistic reaction to this rise in Hellenism which seems very interesting in that the original influences for this religion as it was in these centuries was arguably Greek in the first place.

RG: Mhm.

HK: So we almost have a conflict between two Hellenistic competing Judaisms, or competing worldviews. So that’s point number one. And then the second point is that we often, when we think about Western civilization, as you mentioned, pretty much all of our ideas come from Plato. Well, if we look at the main components for Western civilization, I’ve seen a few different sources describe them as pretty much you’ve got Roman law, and Roman law came in in two periods, first with the Roman Empire, all of Western Europe was under Roman law, but then when the Empire died, Roman law disappeared, and it was only somewhere in the 12 or 1500s where Roman law got introduced again, and that became the basis for European law.

So you have Roman law. You have Greek philosophy, and you have Christianity, which has its roots in Judaism. So you could say you’ve got Judaism, Christianity, Greek philosophy, and Roman law. And then, when you look at the Greek influence, you not only have the rediscovery of the classics, and that influence, you have the influence from Christianity and the Greek elements that Christianity added onto itself, like through the Neoplatonic philosophers, and then through Thomas Aquinas and his updating of Aristotle. But then, when you got back and you look at Judaism, well it’s like now the root of Judaism and Christianity is actually also Greek. So you’ve got Plato at all of these stages coming in, Plato and the Romans just coming in, and so that’s point number two.

RG: Let me interject – the Romans, with their twelve tablets of Roman law, they sent ambassadors to Athens, to Greece, to learn about Greek law codes, and they brought back elements of the law code of Solon. So really, Athens and the Greeks, they were models for Roman law as well. The Greeks were geniuses. They were also imperialists, you can criticize them for a lot of things, but they were an amazing influence on human civilization.

I hope I'm not making noise on this thread, but it looks to me that the OT is anything but an accurate account of the Israelites. This has serious implications for Judaism, 'Judeo-Christianity', the state of Israel itself, Bibi's use of OT passages to justify genocide and ethnic cleansing in Palestine, etc.
 

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