Evan
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Israel-Palestine War: Hamas Breaks Out of Gaza, Israel Responds With Genocide
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You are right but I simply wished to stress the irony of the situation since the largely Ashkenazi IDF have absolutely no claim, whether biblical or through perceived ancestral ties, to the land of Israel and southern Lebanon.
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I described Israel as a rogue nation in a recent post. Well it seems that one correspondent for the UK's Guardian newspaper also agrees:
Over the past year, Israel has launched attacks on multiple countries and occupied territories: the Gaza Strip, the West Bank, Lebanon, Syria, Yemen and Iran.
Yet countries and territories aside, Israel has also targeted one specific organization with a series of unprecedented rhetorical and violent attacks.
Yes, the United Nations. We have all witnessed Israel, effectively, declare war on the UN.
Consider the record of recent weeks and months:
Perhaps the biggest question of all: how is Israel still allowed to remain a member of the UN? Why has it not yet been expelled from an organization that it is relentlessly and shamelessly attacking and undermining? Sure, there are other human rights abusers that remain card-carrying members of the UN – Syria, Russia and North Korea, to name but a few – but none of them have killed UN employees en masse; none of them have sent tanks to invade a UN base; none of them have “refused to comply with more than two dozen UNSC resolutions”. It has been more than 60 years since any country in the world dared make the UN secretary general himself “persona non grata”.
To be clear: it’s not as if there isn’t a mechanism for expelling a UN member state. Article 6 of the UN charter says:
“A Member of the United Nations which has persistently violated the Principles contained in the present Charter may be expelled from the Organization by the General Assembly upon the recommendation of the Security Council.”
Now some might point out that no member state has ever been expelled from the UN under Article 6. Plus, the United States, which has vetoed over 50 UN security council resolutions critical of Israel since the early 1970s, would never allow such a “recommendation of the Security Council” to be made.
It’s a valid objection. History, however, teaches us that there are workarounds to security council vetoes. As the international law professor and former US state department adviser Thomas Grant pointed out in October 2022, while making his own case for expelling Russia from the United Nations in the wake of Vladimir Putin’s illegal invasion of Ukraine, “UN members on two occasions in the past have judged a particular Member delegation no longer fit to sit at the organization’s table. On both occasions, the UN improvised a solution.”
In 1971, socialist and non-aligned nations in the Global South voted in the UN general assembly to recognized the People’s Republic of China as “the only legitimate representative of China to the United Nations” and thereby replaced the representatives from the Republic of China (Taiwan), which had been a founding member of the UN. ROC was out, PRC was in – and it was the general assembly, not the security council, that decided it.
Three years later, relying again not on the UN charter but its own “rules of procedure” as the human rights lawyer and former UN official Saul Takahisi has noted, the UN general assembly “voted to refuse to recognize the credentials of the South African delegation” and “barred South Africa from participation in the Unga” until 1994.
Oh, and the two main reasons cited by the UN general assembly for suspending South Africa’s membership? Its practice of apartheid against the indigenous Black population and its illegal occupation of neighbouring Namibia. Sound familiar?
Crucially, as Thomas Grant has written, “the move against South Africa followed no precise procedural pathway in the UN charter or existing UN practice” and the UN showed how “an improvisatory ethos prevails, when the member states judge a matter important enough that they must act.”
So what is more “important” for the UN member states right now than attacks on the UN itself by a single member state? On the UN’s authority, personnel, headquarters and charter? On Saturday, 40 countries issued a joint statement condemning Israel’s brazen and ongoing assault on UN peacekeepers in Lebanon but talk is cheap. UN member states need to act.
The Israeli government may want to pretend that the United Nations, and the general assembly in particular, is irrelevant, impotent and filled with antisemitic bias, yet Israel only exists today because of a UN general assembly resolution. The country’s own 1948 Declaration of Independence makes seven different references to the United Nations, all of them super-positive and ever-so-grateful.
So evicting Israel from the UN, or at least suspending its participation in the general assembly as a first step, would send a powerful message – both to the people of Israel and to the rest of the world.
That the authority of the United Nations still matters. That the lives of UN staff and peacekeepers also matter. And that one rogue nation cannot declare war on the UN itself and continue to get away with it.
Israel is a rogue nation. It should be removed from the United Nations
Story by Mehdi HasanOver the past year, Israel has launched attacks on multiple countries and occupied territories: the Gaza Strip, the West Bank, Lebanon, Syria, Yemen and Iran.
Yet countries and territories aside, Israel has also targeted one specific organization with a series of unprecedented rhetorical and violent attacks.
Yes, the United Nations. We have all witnessed Israel, effectively, declare war on the UN.
Consider the record of recent weeks and months:
- Israel’s prime minister, while standing on stage at the UN general assembly, denounced the body as “contemptible”, a “house of darkness” and a “swamp of antisemitic bile”.
- Israel’s outgoing ambassador to the UN shredded a copy of the UN charter with a miniature paper shredder while also standing at the podium of the general assembly, and later said the UN headquarters in New York “should be closed and wiped off the face of the Earth”.
- Israel’s foreign minister falsely accused the UN secretary general of not having condemned Iran’s attacks on Israel, declared him “persona non grata in Israel” and announced that he had “banned him from entering the country”.
- The Israeli government actively obstructed a UN-mandated commission of inquiry trying to collect evidence on the 7 October attacks.
- Israel’s parliament is in the process of designating a longstanding UN agency, Unrwa, as a “terrorist organization”.
- The Israeli military has bombed UN schools, warehouses and refugee camps in Gaza for 12 consecutive months, and killed a record 228 UN employees in the process. “By far the highest number of our personnel killed in a single conflict or natural disaster since the creation of the United Nations,” to quote the UN secretary general.
- The Israeli military is now also attacking UN peacekeepers in southern Lebanon. According to the UN, “five UN ‘Blue Helmets’ serving with UNIFIL in Lebanon have been injured as Israeli forces inflicted damage on UN positions close to the ‘Blue Line’.”
Perhaps the biggest question of all: how is Israel still allowed to remain a member of the UN? Why has it not yet been expelled from an organization that it is relentlessly and shamelessly attacking and undermining? Sure, there are other human rights abusers that remain card-carrying members of the UN – Syria, Russia and North Korea, to name but a few – but none of them have killed UN employees en masse; none of them have sent tanks to invade a UN base; none of them have “refused to comply with more than two dozen UNSC resolutions”. It has been more than 60 years since any country in the world dared make the UN secretary general himself “persona non grata”.
To be clear: it’s not as if there isn’t a mechanism for expelling a UN member state. Article 6 of the UN charter says:
“A Member of the United Nations which has persistently violated the Principles contained in the present Charter may be expelled from the Organization by the General Assembly upon the recommendation of the Security Council.”
Now some might point out that no member state has ever been expelled from the UN under Article 6. Plus, the United States, which has vetoed over 50 UN security council resolutions critical of Israel since the early 1970s, would never allow such a “recommendation of the Security Council” to be made.
It’s a valid objection. History, however, teaches us that there are workarounds to security council vetoes. As the international law professor and former US state department adviser Thomas Grant pointed out in October 2022, while making his own case for expelling Russia from the United Nations in the wake of Vladimir Putin’s illegal invasion of Ukraine, “UN members on two occasions in the past have judged a particular Member delegation no longer fit to sit at the organization’s table. On both occasions, the UN improvised a solution.”
In 1971, socialist and non-aligned nations in the Global South voted in the UN general assembly to recognized the People’s Republic of China as “the only legitimate representative of China to the United Nations” and thereby replaced the representatives from the Republic of China (Taiwan), which had been a founding member of the UN. ROC was out, PRC was in – and it was the general assembly, not the security council, that decided it.
Three years later, relying again not on the UN charter but its own “rules of procedure” as the human rights lawyer and former UN official Saul Takahisi has noted, the UN general assembly “voted to refuse to recognize the credentials of the South African delegation” and “barred South Africa from participation in the Unga” until 1994.
Oh, and the two main reasons cited by the UN general assembly for suspending South Africa’s membership? Its practice of apartheid against the indigenous Black population and its illegal occupation of neighbouring Namibia. Sound familiar?
Crucially, as Thomas Grant has written, “the move against South Africa followed no precise procedural pathway in the UN charter or existing UN practice” and the UN showed how “an improvisatory ethos prevails, when the member states judge a matter important enough that they must act.”
So what is more “important” for the UN member states right now than attacks on the UN itself by a single member state? On the UN’s authority, personnel, headquarters and charter? On Saturday, 40 countries issued a joint statement condemning Israel’s brazen and ongoing assault on UN peacekeepers in Lebanon but talk is cheap. UN member states need to act.
The Israeli government may want to pretend that the United Nations, and the general assembly in particular, is irrelevant, impotent and filled with antisemitic bias, yet Israel only exists today because of a UN general assembly resolution. The country’s own 1948 Declaration of Independence makes seven different references to the United Nations, all of them super-positive and ever-so-grateful.
So evicting Israel from the UN, or at least suspending its participation in the general assembly as a first step, would send a powerful message – both to the people of Israel and to the rest of the world.
That the authority of the United Nations still matters. That the lives of UN staff and peacekeepers also matter. And that one rogue nation cannot declare war on the UN itself and continue to get away with it.
- Mehdi Hasan is the CEO and editor-in-chief of the new media company Zeteo
mantle
Jedi
Only a heart dedicated to blindness would not agree with the last sentence above. Unfortunately for all of us there is a well known mafia saying : " If you are going to humiliate someone publicly in a crass manner make sure that he does not survive to take his inevitable revenge." To openly call Israel a rogue nation and what it cannot get away with, is double plus humiliation for Israel who are essentially conversos. What is a Semite ? According to the C's they are a Central Asian genetic type formed from two main lines, Kantekian and Homo Sapiens. They also said that Kantekians are super charged and empowered with Light. Conversos and Zionists are something else ,the best cannot forgive but are very good at many things , like playing the role of Uriah Heap, before plunging the knife inside whatever nation they poison. The Kabalists Jacob Frank and Sabbatai Zvi with their dreams for a rotten Messiah to fulfill their mania and their hate , are equally led by The Beast to help bring about Armageddon. They have many well placed followers. And in these poisoned times Khazarians , will also fulfill their alotted roles not just Ashkenazis and Aryans. Armageddon will not and cannot be avoided. My best advice is to keep ones head out of their cross hairs and their endless stream of lies. And to pray.
Ina
The Living Force
Someone should have redefined 'Nation' first, or at least checked thoroughly the level of participation of all the elements that are required to coalescing a nation before going into the trouble of writing the article.
The fact that the political drivers of that nation have gone rogue that does not mean the nation itself has done so.
axj
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Iranian general claims ‘secret weapon’ more powerful than nuclear bombs
Ebrahim Rostami has suggested that the munitions have already been used in the past but that information about them is top secret
Sounds like some kind of directed energy weapon (DEW) maybe, since the origin of the attack cannot be pinpointed.
The parallels between what has been happening, and continues to happen, in Gaza and what happened to the Jews in Nazi Germany are too striking to ignore, at least to me.
Gaza is basically the Nazi Jewish ghettos and their extermination camps rolled into one place. There is also the element of the Israelis repeatedly taking Palestinian land for "living space" for Israeli settlers.
Gaza is basically the Nazi Jewish ghettos and their extermination camps rolled into one place. There is also the element of the Israelis repeatedly taking Palestinian land for "living space" for Israeli settlers.
axj
The Living Force
Can psychopaths integrate lessons in 5D? Since they are "defective OPs", maybe they do not even go through the "group soul learning" as other OPs do.
Ina
The Living Force
One aspect, very unclear for me, is the settlers, which look rather like immigrants of various different original nationalities but of a declared religion. Is that close to the reality? I am asking, because if it is, the land expansion to allocate to settlers is to put it in plain words an act of hijacking.
lilies
The Living Force
Bibi was a prophet, when he stood before the TV and said:
- Do you hear the Deafening Silence?!
Now we are definitely hearing the deafening silence from all the world's countries. Just like Covid. Lock-Step Shut Up Keep Mum about what's happening or else! After Saint Fauci, probably Saint Bibi will be proclaimed next.
- Do you hear the Deafening Silence?!
Now we are definitely hearing the deafening silence from all the world's countries. Just like Covid. Lock-Step Shut Up Keep Mum about what's happening or else! After Saint Fauci, probably Saint Bibi will be proclaimed next.
I take your point. However, as Joe noted in his recent post, there is an increasing similarity between the modus operandi of the state of Israel and that of Nazi Germany.
The Nazis were voted into power democratically, which meant they had the support of a large part of the German nation (although their vote share and number of seats in the Reichstag was never a true majority). The same can be said of the current Israeli government (a political coalition led by Netanyahu), which up to now has enjoyed the backing of the Israeli people in prosecuting this war. Hence, just as with the Nazis, the people can be said to be complicit in supporting the actions of their government. That does not mean, of course, that all Germans supported the Nazi war aims and the same is clearly true of many Israelis today, where there is an increasing number of citizens (presumably the non psychopaths) who are opposed to the current genocide. Perhaps if enough of these people get together, they may be able to bring down the Netanyahu administration and effect a ceasefire to allow humanitarian aid to get into Gaza and to look for a political settlement. I am not holding my breath though.
The Nazis were voted into power democratically, which meant they had the support of a large part of the German nation (although their vote share and number of seats in the Reichstag was never a true majority). The same can be said of the current Israeli government (a political coalition led by Netanyahu), which up to now has enjoyed the backing of the Israeli people in prosecuting this war. Hence, just as with the Nazis, the people can be said to be complicit in supporting the actions of their government. That does not mean, of course, that all Germans supported the Nazi war aims and the same is clearly true of many Israelis today, where there is an increasing number of citizens (presumably the non psychopaths) who are opposed to the current genocide. Perhaps if enough of these people get together, they may be able to bring down the Netanyahu administration and effect a ceasefire to allow humanitarian aid to get into Gaza and to look for a political settlement. I am not holding my breath though.
I am not sure there is now. There was a recent debate in the British Parliament where MP's are actively considering imposing sanctions on certain Israeli ministers over their support for blocking aid entering Gaza and for expanding illegal settlements there and in the occupied West Bank.
UK considering sanctions for Israeli ministers amid 'dire' situation in Gaza
The UK is considering sanctioning two Israeli ministers, Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer confirmed on Wednesday as pressure mounts on the Tel Aviv government over its actions in the Gaza Strip, the West Bank and Lebanon. Former foreign secretary Lord David Cameron revealed on Tuesday that he had been working on a plan to sanction finance minister Bezalel Smotrich and national security minister Itamar Ben-Gvir over their support for blocking aid from entering the Gaza Strip and expanding illegal settlements both there and in the West Bank. Asked during Prime Minister's Questions on Wednesday whether he would sanction the two men, Sir Keir said: "We are looking at that."
I understand that President Joe Biden is also talking about withholding military aid to Israel until humanitarian aid is allowed into Gaza.
Perhaps cracks in Israeli support from its key western allies are finally starting to show?
