Jake Sully, Anonymous and "WhatIsThePlan" - PsyOps?

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ButIluvyou said:
How do you prove someone is COINTELPRO?

Uhhmmm, lovebunny, I'm staring to think that you might be joking. If not, google COINTELPRO 101 and read up a bit - all you need to know. Basically, it's lies wrapped in a little bit of truth - that's how you know, once you see the lie and they won't budge on the lie, you know. If they tie the lie to a distraction to keep people from ever actually doing anything worthwhile, then you can bet your furry head on it. ;D
 
Dracoliat said:
It is indeed extremely sad. So sad to know that the same government that promises us rights, covertly tries to take them away from those they don't like at the same time.

Yep - it's actually horrific, when you get into the details of it, but it's been that way for a loooonnnnggggg time.
 
Guardian said:
PlanningAhead said:
Honestly? I wouldn't claim psychopath. He's a competent, extremely intelligent individual and while I can't confirm it for 100% sure, my only possible conclusion is that this is a job for him. He shows up, he makes coffee, he reads the newspaper, and he goes to work trolling forums into attacking each other until his lunch break. He's not crazy, and he's all the more dangerous for being a capable enemy.

Actually, "Psychopath" doesn't mean he's crazy (Psychotic) "Psychopath" means that he has absolutely NO empathy for his fellow man, which is exactly what you're describing.

Yup. Charming, intelligent, manipulative, remorseless, too sane to be normal. That's a psychopath's M.O.
 
PlanningAhead said:
Wormsnap, that's my concern too. We can understand and prepare for government infiltration, but I don't know what to make of Vibe, or of how insistently he pushed the same thing under the same name for so many years. And with as deeply as he managed to root it into WITP, that's dangerous.

Search Psychopathy in the forum, and you may get some indications of what we are dealing with here.
 
anart said:
ButIluvyou said:
How do you prove someone is COINTELPRO?

Uhhmmm, lovebunny, I'm staring to think that you might be joking. If not, google COINTELPRO 101 and read up a bit - all you need to know. Basically, it's lies wrapped in a little bit of truth - that's how you know, once you see the lie and they won't budge on the lie, you know. If they tie the lie to a distraction to keep people from ever actually doing anything worthwhile, then you can bet your furry head on it. ;D

Plus it doesn't hurt when they use their real names on their domain registrations. :lol:
 
Question. Have you guys seen him pushing a pet project, or philosophical reorganization, or way to decentralize into smaller groups or anything like that here? Those are a couple of aspects of his Vibe thing.
 
wormsnap said:
So as information would normally leak out about an incident that a movement could act upon, they would be caught up in petty drama and unable to organize and act, or see and record.

Exactly, so what's going on right now that we're all missing because we're distracted with this nonsense?

ws said:
It sounds like AppleJack/Sully had his own pet project, and that vibe-whatever was involved. My question is what is HIS real goal? It's waaaaayyy too out there to be 100% government influence, he has his own personal motives of where he wants it to go.

I don't know, if you look into CIA operations, they go deep into far out stuff - stuff that makes us look totally normal. It's definitely been done before.
 
anart said:
ButIluvyou said:
How do you prove someone is COINTELPRO?

Uhhmmm, lovebunny, I'm staring to think that you might be joking.

I don't think so? I took it that she was asking how we specifically prove to ourselves, and to the public if there's a SOTT story, why we think a specific person is COINTELPRO (which is a VERY dated term) ...but I could be wrong?
 
anart said:
Dracoliat said:
It is indeed extremely sad. So sad to know that the same government that promises us rights, covertly tries to take them away from those they don't like at the same time.

Yep - it's actually horrific, when you get into the details of it, but it's been that way for a loooonnnnggggg time.

However just because something has been that way "for a loooonnnnggggg time." Doesn't mean it can't be changed!
 
PlanningAhead said:
Question. Have you guys seen him pushing a pet project, or philosophical reorganization, or way to decentralize into smaller groups or anything like that here? Those are a couple of aspects of his Vibe thing.

Yep. Very early on he tried to pull us into protests and we calmly explained that we're all too old for that. (kidding - well, sort of...) - We actually had other priorities at the time so made that clear. But throughout his history of hanging around here, he has consistently tried to introduce really new agey ideas (believe it or not we are not aligned at all with the 'new age' type stuff) - so he was pretty consistently shut down on that. Definitely a pattern.
 
I can't help but think that there is a bit of B.S. (crap) going on with some of the new people just jumping in and talking so much and asking obvious questions. I'm not sure if everyone (some of the new people of this particular subject) are being sincere, or furthering drama for drama's sake. That can be another way of distorting, and yet another diverson.

IMO.

Sorry if I'm out of line, but wow.
 
ButIluvyou said:
So basically COINTELPRO is people like alex jones or david icke?

Exactly! As well as people like Jerry Falwell, Pat Roberson, etc. EVERY subculture get's it's fair share of corporate shills. :mad:
 
Dawn said:
I can't help but think that there is a bit of B.S. (crap) going on with some of the new people just jumping in and talking so much and asking obvious questions. I'm not sure if everyone (some of the new people of this particular subject) are being sincere, or furthering drama for drama's sake. That can be another way of distorting, and yet another diverson.

IMO.

Sorry if I'm out of line, but wow.

Yep, you're out of line. But, that's okay - it's easy to get paranoid after the week we've had. Sometimes, people just need to get things out and connect some dots in order to root out things that have been hidden too long.
 
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