Jake Sully, Anonymous and "WhatIsThePlan" - PsyOps?

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anart said:
PlanningAhead said:
Question. Have you guys seen him pushing a pet project, or philosophical reorganization, or way to decentralize into smaller groups or anything like that here? Those are a couple of aspects of his Vibe thing.

Yep. Very early on he tried to pull us into protests and we calmly explained that we're all too old for that. (kidding - well, sort of...) - We actually had other priorities at the time so made that clear. But throughout his history of hanging around here, he has consistently tried to introduce really new agey ideas (believe it or not we are not aligned at all with the 'new age' type stuff) - so he was pretty consistently shut down on that. Definitely a pattern.
Publicly accessible information claims he lives in Sedona and works in some sort of new age crystals type shop. I don't know how much of that is accurate vs intentionally manufactured. But it matches what you say.
 
Dracoliat said:
anart said:
Dracoliat said:
It is indeed extremely sad. So sad to know that the same government that promises us rights, covertly tries to take them away from those they don't like at the same time.

Yep - it's actually horrific, when you get into the details of it, but it's been that way for a loooonnnnggggg time.

However just because something has been that way "for a loooonnnnggggg time." Doesn't mean it can't be changed!

I think it is destined to change... We all can see that right? I mean this thread shows them loosing grip.
 
Guardian said:
ButIluvyou said:
So basically COINTELPRO is people like alex jones or david icke?

Exactly! As well as people like Jerry Falwell, Pat Roberson, etc. EVERY subculture get's it's fair share of corporate shills. :mad:


Wow, there must be a LOT of people working in COINTELPRO then
 
Dawn said:
I can't help but think that there is a bit of B.S. (crap) going on with some of the new people just jumping in and talking so much and asking obvious questions. I'm not sure if everyone (some of the new people of this particular subject) are being sincere, or furthering drama for drama's sake. That can be another way of distorting, and yet another diverson.

IMO.

Sorry if I'm out of line, but wow.
I apologize for this. Our various targeted sites recently found each other and we've been discussing it and comparing notes to piece together the full picture, and when we saw him post this here we knew we couldn't sit on the information any more and let him try it again.
 
Dawn said:
I can't help but think that there is a bit of B.S. (crap) going on with some of the new people just jumping in and talking so much and asking obvious questions. I'm not sure if everyone (some of the new people of this particular subject) are being sincere, or furthering drama for drama's sake. That can be another way of distorting, and yet another diverson.

IMO.

Sorry if I'm out of line, but wow.

Sorry if I seem like I'm a bit full of it. I've been lurking about a few places Sully's been for a while trying to connect dots. I'm not trying to be dramatic in any way, when I saw someone had done some investigative work of their own after encountering his particular tactic of disinformation, I had the impulse to share a few of my findings.

That being said I'm not exactly at liberty to divulge all of it as I'm still looking into the legitimacy of what I'm finding. I've found a good share of falsity in his background.

That and some keylogging program in one of his old blogs titled "fluttershy.exe"

My antivirus didn't notice it for three weeks apparently. Bit spooky.
 
wormsnap said:
it sounded like it was some sort of counter-intelligence operation involving rooting sleepers within activist movements, truth seekers, essentially anything that the government could label as a dissident. After the sleeper cells are actively integrated and respected, they turn it into a theater, and begin a drawn out campaign across it, at critical historical moments.

We must never forget that we are how they justify their budgets.
 
anart said:
Dawn said:
I can't help but think that there is a bit of B.S. (crap) going on with some of the new people just jumping in and talking so much and asking obvious questions. I'm not sure if everyone (some of the new people of this particular subject) are being sincere, or furthering drama for drama's sake. That can be another way of distorting, and yet another diverson.

IMO.

Sorry if I'm out of line, but wow.

Yep, you're out of line. But, that's okay - it's easy to get paranoid after the week we've had. Sometimes, people just need to get things out and connect some dots in order to root out things that have been hidden too long.

Thanks anart! Seriously we've had a heck of a week!
 
EGVG said:
PlanningAhead said:
Anart: If you'll notice in the dox I included, he's even posed as female in the past when it suited his needs.

I wonder if he has more accounts here.... :huh: I'm sorry if I'm jumping into conclusions here, but this screams Psychopath, and the connection to the video form J makes it even scarier. Thinking what things hi may have in store for keeping his plan going, also who is he working with, makes me sad and mad. This kind of people work as puppets, that's what they are, the puppets of evil.

Added: Military connections, now that says a LOT.

I read his post archive this weekend and he did have at least one other forum name, rising phoenix or something like that. The post archive is a real resource for a psychological profile of this guy and I would have to say he appears to be emotionally and spiritually clueless, which indicates he maybe psychopathic. Most of the snitches, narcs, agents provocateurs are psychopaths who easily pretend and lie without shame as they engage in human sacrifice for their entertainment and profit. Normal human beings can't or won't destroy their friends lives. Intelligence bureaucracies use psychopaths to do the dirty work while they keep their hands clean. The world is a hell of mess as most people don't know how to spot the tells of psychopathy. There is a lot of research on the forum on how to spot psychopaths before they damage and destroy our lives.
 
PlanningAhead said:
I apologize for this. Our various targeted sites recently found each other and we've been discussing it and comparing notes to piece together the full picture, and when we saw him post this here we knew we couldn't sit on the information any more and let him try it again.

No need for apologies, honestly.
 
wormsnap said:
That and some keylogging program in one of his old blogs titled "fluttershy.exe"

My antivirus didn't notice it for three weeks apparently. Bit spooky.

Were it me I'd stop using Windows ;)
 
wormsnap said:
Sorry if I seem like I'm a bit full of it. I've been lurking about a few places Sully's been for a while trying to connect dots. I'm not trying to be dramatic in any way, when I saw someone had done some investigative work of their own after encountering his particular tactic of disinformation, I had the impulse to share a few of my findings.

That being said I'm not exactly at liberty to divulge all of it as I'm still looking into the legitimacy of what I'm finding. I've found a good share of falsity in his background.

That and some keylogging program in one of his old blogs titled "fluttershy.exe"

My antivirus didn't notice it for three weeks apparently. Bit spooky.

No worries, you don't sound dramatic at all to me. Reality is stranger than fiction - especially lately.
 
While we are on the topic of "Hey, lets all talk about how much of a dick r3x is", I guess I'll share my view of him and the common beef that Anons have with him.
The following is my personal perspective on all this, and I will speak from what I have seen. I might have left some things out, so if there's anyone here who has further insight, feel free to add.
I will refer to JakeSully as "r3x"

First off, I don't think he is any sort of secret government agent or anything like that at all.
I think he is just a really sad, misguided man who wants to be someone special when he is not. He is probably mentally ill.

He was first associated with Anonymous during the start of Project Chanology, the protest movement against Scientology. He was always the black sheep due to him constantly trying to shove weird, convoluted, esoteric, even borderline religious theories, projects, and ideals into places they don't belong. Namely, the whole of Project Chanology. If this was not enough, he always strived to assume a leadership role and spoke of this ridiculous stuff from a position of assumed authority. This kind of stuff quickly earned him a bad rep among quite a few Anons and established the basis for his growing weirdness.

In late '08, he decided that since he is not getting any power in Chanology, he will create a throne of his own. This was 888chan, his first venture into leading an Anonymous entity. Here he pushed a thing called "Vibecraft", which is the culmination of all the weird, esoteric stuff he has previously tried to push on Anons, and which draws a lot of inspiration from cassiopaea. He wrote VOLUMES on this Vibecraft stuff. Probably enough to keep you reading a whole day. A lot of it was bizarre, and suggested that Anons have to have their own calendar, their own currency, their own astrology-esque various esoterica, and of course, their own leadership. While he avoided referring to himself as the 'leader', he strived to assume more of a "teacher" role. He sought to assume a much more dangerous position than simply 'administrator' or 'moderator'. He sought to assume a sort of self-congratulated spiritual leadership. Needless to say, this raised a lot of eyebrows. Nobody wanted magical mumbo-jumbo. We wanted to dick around on the internet and protest Scientology. And besides, nobody had the attention span to sort through his increasingly weird writings.

(Random snippets of his Vibecraft postings:

__http://i.imgur.com/oo9Fz.jpg
__http://i.imgur.com/LSpnt.png
__http://i.imgur.com/KC5Uc.jpg
)

888chan eventually dies of natural causes. R3x was far from done however. His next endeavor was VortexChan. Now let me back up a bit. 888chan was modeled on an "open forum" idea, and had individual forums on it that had nothing to do with Vibecraft or r3x. He did not have direct control over day-to-day discussion and topic trends. Now Vortexchan was different. Vortexchan was all about Vibecraft and implementing it into the Anonymous community. By this point, r3x is clearly obsessed with his project and believes himself to be some sort of Anonymous kingpin or authority. He tries his hand at "teaching" people how to be 'Anonymous'. However, r3x's idea of Anonymous is bizarre and backwards. It goes contrary to almost every cultural facet and history of Anonymous. Because of this, Vortexchan never really takes off. He tries to build some sort of esoteric movement based on Anonymous terminology with himself as the leader. Anons laugh at it and non-Anons don't understand and don't care.

Then comes WhatIsThePlan (WITP). Now this movement was started by two people called Mavendetta and firstmonkey. Riding the shockwave of the actions of groups like AnonOps and LulzSec, WITP attempts to establish itself as an anti-government anarchist/conspiracy theorist movement. They mainly run around spray painting "Anonymous is Legion" on walls and being a general nuisance to both the public and Anonymous. Now, to understand why and how r3x managed to swindle WITP, you need to understand the kind of person the WITP movement attracted. First and foremost, while WITP claims the name 'Anonymous', almost nobody there has any history with the culture from before WITP. These are kids who like the idealistic idea of being 'Anonymous', and mostly do not realize or recognize that the name has a history and a culture attached to it. WITP has nothing to do with this history or culture. For r3x, this is the perfect audience. People who don't really understand what Anonymous is, but are eager to learn and be a part of a cool new hip thing that is going to "save the world". And, oh boy, did r3x "teach" them about Anonymous. HIS Anonymous. Almost from the get-go, r3x immediately played the "I am a senior Anonymous veteran" card to Mavendetta and obtained a leadership role. He used this leadership role to broadcast his Vibecraft message to the quickly growing memberbase of the site. And a lot of people bought in. After all, this guy knows what he is talking about, right?

It did not take long for Anonymous to notice WITP. And notice they did. Everything about WITP pissed Anons off. The naiive new memberbase, the flaunting of the name Anonymous, the claims to previous Anonymous actions they had no part in, the conspiracy theories, and even r3x's bizzare leadership. A lot of Anons wanted/want to see WITP gone. And a lot signed up and started trolling hard. Even people from the Chanology central site (WhyWeProtest.net) wanted a piece of this action. Naturally, we (MFO/NYCAnon) were also very much there when we first saw WITP. The more time Anons spent messing around on WITP, the more they started noticing r3x and his actions. So action was taken. He was d0xed. His d0x were posted on 4chan. His connections and posts were revealed for everyone to mock. Among there was his history of posts on Cassiopaea and proof of his attempts at usurping WITP for his own purposes. By the time he was forced to relinquish his leading role on WITP (which, by the way, he refused to give up willingly, even after the community turned on him), he has become a pariah among the Anonymous world.

He may or may not have connections with some 'hacktivist' Anon groups. This I do not know. But at least for now, he seems to have disappeared from public view. Will he come back to try and claim the Anonymous name again? I don't know. What I do know is that if he does, a lot of us will be sure to notice, and the history of his actions that we have amassed will speak for itself when/if that time comes.

tl;dr: r3x tries to become an authoritative "Teacher" with a capital T of a leaderless group, gets told to GTFO multiple times. This is the latest of them.
 
anart said:
wormsnap said:
Sorry if I seem like I'm a bit full of it. I've been lurking about a few places Sully's been for a while trying to connect dots. I'm not trying to be dramatic in any way, when I saw someone had done some investigative work of their own after encountering his particular tactic of disinformation, I had the impulse to share a few of my findings.

That being said I'm not exactly at liberty to divulge all of it as I'm still looking into the legitimacy of what I'm finding. I've found a good share of falsity in his background.

That and some keylogging program in one of his old blogs titled "fluttershy.exe"

My antivirus didn't notice it for three weeks apparently. Bit spooky.

No worries, you don't sound dramatic at all to me. Reality is stranger than fiction - especially lately.

Yeah I think if Kurt Vonnegut could look at some of the events in people's lives he'd probably say something like "That was metaphorical fiction, the events weren't actually supposed to happen

And yeah, I have a dual boot, I use the windows side very infrequently, partially why i didn't notice the keylogger, but I do wonder if it was able to pick up what I was doing in my other OS >.<
 
wormsnap said:
Yeah I think if Kurt Vonnegut could look at some of the events in people's lives he'd probably say something like "That was metaphorical fiction, the events weren't actually supposed to happen

:lol: ...definitely...
 
PlanningAhead said:
Publicly accessible information claims he lives in Sedona and works in some sort of new age crystals type shop.

This fits the Corp Espionage pattern too. They set up some new age/tarot/alternative healing type deal in a place like Sedona, then they market to big "names" in the hopes of getting dirt on a rival, politician.
 
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