Jake Sully, Anonymous and "WhatIsThePlan" - PsyOps?

[Giray Khan the Brave]

I would not recommend a distracting, fear inducing, and time wasting procedure like that to everyone, and if something like that ever became necessary, I'm sure the site admin or techies here would let everyone know. Unless, like I said, you know something about the situation that isn't already common knowledge.

Yes. Giray Khan the Brave - best chill out a bit. People should, as normal practice, change passwords every once in a while - no need to get hysterical over this thread. Maybe take a break from the internet for a while? You seem to be thinking with your emotions so a break is usually a good idea. You're also not exactly contributing valuable input to this thread.

Correct. I don't have a goat pen to clean out or a radiator to paint but I'm sure I'll find something :)

 

[Laura]

There is no "competition" between literary activism and the more physical forms of protest...or at least there shouldn't be.

So true! I did that stuff when I was young and really abused my poor autoimmune stricken body and I'm sure paying for it now! That's why we have so much emphasis on health topics...

And yeah, I'd be out there on the streets myself if I had the stamina I had back then. But I guess I get in my share of licks because I've been interrogated and fingerprinted and investigated, and flamed from here to kingdom come by obvious agents (did the research so that's not just a wild claim).

You know, I wake up at night sometimes in a cold sweat thinking about where things are heading on this planet and the very real possibility that I could end up in some gulag because I'm still crazy after all these years.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46bkXgxb66E

And I've never backed down.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnrPP3qkM0E

(Plus I still love Rock!)

 

[anart]

Hi Jason, all I know is that the moderator of an Anon board told some people to "Do it for the lulz if need be..." which was enough to get me to change my passwords and recommend others on this thread to do the same. I know that there is very little that can be done against a determined hacker but a stronger password than the one I already had would be tougher to crack (should they be using that method of entry) and would at least slow down a potential attack or even prevent a slow and unenthusiastic one. I honestly apologise to everyone that my attempt to get others to take precautions came across as distracting and fear inducing... it was not my intention.

Please stop. You're not even recommending things from a decent knowledge base of what is possible, regarding technology and infiltration. Please - just do us all a favor and stop - your posts are rather embarrassing at this point.

 

[Guardian]

I would not recommend a distracting, fear inducing, and time wasting procedure like that to everyone, and if something like that ever became necessary, I'm sure the site admin or techies here would let everyone know. Unless, like I said, you know something about the situation that isn't already common knowledge.

Yeah, and we are talking about the Internet here. Granted, spam is very annoying, but can be deleted rather easily. Someone defaced my website once, then got upset because I didn't notice for 4 days.

I'm MUCH more concerned with what's happening to "Marie" and her children...because that is REAL. I'm also disgusted that French law doesn't allow his name to be published. What about the babies of the women he's currently trying to seduce?

 

[anart]

Just for the record, Patrick Gaines/jakesully/rx3/telewhatever/mifune has been banned from the forum.

 

[Buddy]

Joking aside and speaking for myself, I am sure that if it wasn't for Cassiopaea and related locations of networking I would surely have been with Anon by now...

Not likely. Anon doesn't give lengthy answers to "meaningless" questions, though I found your analysis mentioning Nightingale's comments well done. :)

...a sentiment that I'd imagine would be shared by quite a few people on this forum.

Interestingly, while I found 'anon' presence less an intrusion than an interlude like a breath of fresh air, from the perspective of esoteric self-development, I see nothing productive to be gained by 'joining anon'. FWIW

If there is a real "Anonymous", no one would step forward to speak on "their" behalf. That would be like an ADD'er who is fighting the numbed up cultural perspective on being "different", turncoating on another ADD'er. It is NOT even conceivable from within the parameters of that state of consciousness/being.

Does that make sense?

 

[Al Today]

When all is said and done, I think two groups with common interests, with different methods had an opportunity to meet and learn some about each other. I have learned so very much about y'all anons and I appreciate the adult nature of this discussion.

To reiterate:

Some of us were activists in the 60s and 70s and still idealistic though we've been seriously burned out and realized how futile things are as long as there are elements that keep turning people who truly seek a better world against each other.

I'm willing to bet most of them can still out run a cop, or at least give the pig a run for his money. These days the donut eating goon could just jog along behind me and wait for me to keel over from a heart attack.

This is so...

 

[Joe]

see in us a leader (i.e. Laura) and a large group of followers who follows their leader blindly and accepts everything she says. This kind of setup is against their anti-autoritarianist and de-centralised beliefs

I'm not sure this is the case for this demographic. I think the fact that we are a group of people who deviate from what is considered "normal" beliefs provokes the authoritarian or authoritarian follower in many of the people who attack us. By doing what we do we challenge their blind faith in 'the authorities' and the world view that officialdom espouses. That's what irks them so. They want us to fall back into line and stop pointing out that what the authorities say is mostly lies.

 

[dant]

[...] I see SOTT.net as activism for old people. [...]

How does one define 'old people'?
Isn't it relative to one's own age?

 

[Al Today]

How does one define 'old people'?

I view this as having some more life experience. Although this does not always lead to wisdom. Old is in the mind. But time takes a heavy toll on the body.

They want us to fall back into line and stop pointing out that what the authorities say is mostly lies.

All TPTB do is lie, lie, lie and more lies. Remember, the predator's greatest fear is to be recognized. The more people who become aware of of all the lies and deceit thrown at them since birth, the more control "they" lose. They do whatever they can to stop the truth. I appreciate learning of others who also (somewhat) recognize these lies and "do" battle. We may not agree on method basics (internal vs. external), but we do have a common enemy and common goals.

 

[skycsil]

Ok, this is weird. I received a visit to my blog from _http://www.whatis-theplan.org/t14167-cassiopaea-raid-thread and I'm not even registered there. Why is it my blog being posted there?

 

[Laura]

We may not agree on method basics (internal vs. external), but we do have a common enemy and common goals.

I can't even say I disagree on methods. Different people do different things according to their abilities. I'm practically computer illiterate and I have to budget my energy. I also have five children and responsibilities to my husband and extended family. But I tell ya, if I was younger, more tech oriented... well... you know.

I'd like to have a pile of money so I could buy millions of Guy Fawkes masks to send to everybody who reads SOTT! And then have them go out and demonstrate. But gads, if I said that ON SOTT, I'd be crucified.

 

[Windmill knight]

I would not recommend a distracting, fear inducing, and time wasting procedure like that to everyone, and if something like that ever became necessary, I'm sure the site admin or techies here would let everyone know. Unless, like I said, you know something about the situation that isn't already common knowledge.

Yeah, and we are talking about the Internet here. Granted, spam is very annoying, but can be deleted rather easily. Someone defaced my website once, then got upset because I didn't notice for 4 days.

I'm MUCH more concerned with what's happening to "Marie" and her children...because that is REAL. I'm also disgusted that French law doesn't allow his name to be published. What about the babies of the women he's currently trying to seduce?

I very much agree. With all these talk about trolling-raids, cyber-culture and all that (which I do find interesting), I think we should not lose sight of the important facts:

1. 'Marie' has to deal with an ex who is a pervert, a stalker and, unfortunately, the father of her children.
2. There are military contractors targeting online activist groups, including this forum and the anon crowd, and we know some of these provocateurs by name.
3. This forum in particular has been the target of defamation and other forms of attacks for years, the latest episode courtesy of 1 and 2.

These things very much infuriate me.

 

[cubbex]

Ya know, back in the 60s and 70s, activists had ideals and a certain morality that stood up against oppression. They didn't persecute innocent people who only defended themselves. Geeze, even the Mafia has more morals than this stuff exhibits (see last post).

I'd really like to know what Anonymous stands for and against? Or is it just general rage that destroys for the fun of it?

Its just for the fun, I don't really think that group can be taken so seriously, when I read others posting their thankfulness to them I am really amazed how naive some people may be, and I don't really think some of the anonymous whatever would be thinking the same of the users of ths forum. Anonymous as I remember have hacked the psn network, where's the point on hacking that network? to bother the playstation gamers? where's the point on hacking facebook? because it's just for the lulz. If they are not the anonymous group I think they are please correct me in case.

I have been in a trolling group that indeed were causing problems here and there, a bunch of guys between 30 and 20, they got power so they did what they wanted, but come on I was 14 haha, some of them were almost 40. And really, there wasn't a real plan, just a bunch playing to be 007.

It wasn't that hard to destroy a forum, there are those spambots and don't remember how they call it, the concept was a bomb that posted lot of ads about pornography, kitchen articles, etc. At the end the forum was unusable, so no one was able to post, we did it to a forum related to a big online store. The thing is that, if they really want to hack or destroy this forum as that post says, they haven't and there should be a reason as always.

But if they do that, well, what a hit it may be to cut the network isn't it? Divide and conquer.

 

[ocean59]

Ok, this is weird. I received a visit to my blog from _http://www.whatis-theplan.org/t14167-cassiopaea-raid-thread and I'm not even registered there. Why is it my blog being posted there?

When that thread was first brought to our attention, here, the first replies had already arrived from their members 'answering the call' so to speak. You, myself, and Nickel Bleu were the first, apparently 'randomly selected' members chosen for harassment. Then, someone came along posting photos of Laura's family, and personal info.

Those replies appear to have been deleted now, as they no longer appear even in the Google Cache (thanks and kudos to whoever took that action over at WITP).

If I remember correctly, the only info listed for you skycsil was just the blog URL, and nothing else.