Jake Sully, Anonymous and "WhatIsThePlan" - PsyOps?

[Jakesully]

Jake, I don't want to sound rude, but I'm not interested at the moment in how miserable your life was. I'm also not much interested who doxed you; you kinda asked for that. What I am interested though is how you happened to find your way to WITP. Facts, Sir. Facts. Step by step.

I found my way to WITP via a video post about WITP on the Facebook group "ANONYMOUS VICTORY".

_http://www.facebook.com/groups/Anon.Vic/

This was on June 14th, 2011.

I didn't know anyone else who was involved with that website before getting involved myself. I applied for a moderator position and got the spot, and then it went from there. Is there anything else about this that you'd like to know?

 

[Buddy]

[quote author=Jakesully]
I found my way to WITP via a video post about WITP on the Facebook group "ANONYMOUS VICTORY".
[/quote]

Yet you "lost the respect of my peers" there too. What is in you that resonated so strongly with WITP?


[quote author=Jakesully]
This was on June 14th, 2011.
[/quote]

Yet, by Jun 29, 2011, ExEkill, with his comments on "information assymetry" was already giving you a sideways glance in the mirror to see your own projection, but you didn't see it.

As a member of this forum, what ticks me off the most is that instead of posting some relevant piece on Cointelpro, in your own words, from Laura's work to make your point, you posted that whole web page:

_http://cassiopaea-cult.com/the-short-version-of-the-tale-told-by-laura-knight-jadczyk

...complete with the word "cult" as your introduction to "LKJ's writings", or her mention of Cointelpro.

In short, as I see it, you preframed the perceptions of those lesser aware by setting the tone with the word "cult" and the reporting of "Attack and defamation" as the very first words.

If this had been the opening scene of a movie, I wouldn't be able to tell the good guy from the bad, necessarily, just by reading that; especially since, by the third sentence, Laura states that the use of the term Cointelpro "really cranks these individuals...".

You know as well as I do that, from those readers frame of reference, that makes Laura look like she's admitting of trolling those aforementioned individuals.

So, because all this seems to have developed rather quickly, it gives me the impression that you already had an agenda at the time you approached WITP, thus my question.


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Side Note: For the record, no, I have no association with anything beginning with the letters "anon". I just read a bunch of those threads and gathered some impressions.

 

[Renaissance]

What I am interested though is how you happened to find your way to WITP. Facts, Sir. Facts. Step by step.

I found my way to WITP via a video post about WITP on the Facebook group "ANONYMOUS VICTORY".

_http://www.facebook.com/groups/Anon.Vic/

This was on June 14th, 2011.

I didn't know anyone else who was involved with that website before getting involved myself. I applied for a moderator position and got the spot, and then it went from there. Is there anything else about this that you'd like to know?

These one to two line 'answers' are really getting old. Honestly, I don't know how honest you are being Jake, since it's painfully obvious you are not being upfront and continue to only throw scraps.

Perhaps would be good if you tried to really explore the situation for yourself - and to do it with the group. Most likely (IF you have any intentions of being sincere) there are some assumptions and lies you are telling yourself that are holding you back. Maybe you're telling yourself that none of your anonymous 'friends' could have used you, that you knew this person was trustworthy, that you know this other person was cointelpro, and so on. What should be clear to you by now is that everything you thought you knew about Anonymous was built on lies, and so you should NOT trust your opinions, feelings or what you think you 'know' about your involvement. However, the facts of the situation are still there, and while you may not be able to relay them with absolute clarity, it would help if you actually tried. Think about what it was like when you first got involved, the connections you made, how you made them, what you posted about, the projects you worked on, how long you were involved before you were a moderator, did you communicate with others through PM, in what situations you acted as a moderator, what were you responsibilities, where there participants that you met in real life, etc. Of course these are just examples of questions - and I really hope that you can start to think of such things on your own. You were involved for six years and it's clear you put a lot of yourself into that forum - yet what do you have to say about it?? Your reply's are kept to the bare bones of your involvement. Where's the beef?!

Try and get a notebook or something and do a recapitulation from the time you started to get interested. Write down everything you remember and keep writing. Then go back and summarize the facts. There's some clear restriction going on with your ability to share your experiences. If you do feel remorse this would be a good way to utilize that energy, and it could be helpful!

 

[Free_Thinker]

Wow, I may be new to this community but even I can see this is quite a mess you have created for yourself Jake. Have you been reading up on vectors recently? I know you have touched on it in one of your posts but you really need to dig deep into the matter to uncover the heart of the problem. I also hope you are willing to share all your correspondence with these Anonymous folk from now until this matter can be resolved. THe mind of the predator is a dangerous thing Jake. Always remember that.

Here is something fitting for this particular moment: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5gFAiPJhvI

 

[anart]

Wow, I may be new to this community but even I can see this is quite a mess you have created for yourself Jake. Have you been reading up on vectors recently? I know you have touched on it in one of your posts but you really need to dig deep into the matter to uncover the heart of the problem. I also hope you are willing to share all your correspondence with these Anonymous folk from now until this matter can be resolved. THe mind of the predator is a dangerous thing Jake. Always remember that.

Here is something fitting for this particular moment: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5gFAiPJhvI

Hi Free_Thinker, welcome to the forum. Interesting first post of yours. Would you mind telling us how you found this forum? I'm also rather confused about how that song is fitting for this thread - can you fill me in?

 

[Redrock12]

Jake, stop wasting everyone's time and lay it all on the table, either that or just slink away.
We want the details, every i dotted and every t crossed. No more poor mes, how stupid I was/am, how terrible the military treated me, yadayadayada.
And if you are Cointelpro, then have the cojones to say so. Stop being such a gutless wimp!

 

[NYCAnon]

Hello, I am an administrator of the NYC Anonymous cell, also known as "MFO" after our website name __www.motherfuckery.org . For confirmation, go to the site and contact an admin.
This thread was brought to my attention by a fellow Anon squarely on the topic of JakeSully's accusation and implication of our group in attacks or provocations we were decidedly not a part of.

NYCAnon/MFO has publicly and repeatedly taken a stance against the community known as WhatIsThePlan.org, as well as its former moderator, r3x, also known as Jake Sully. This was never a secret. A lot of us have accounts of the WITP forum and have used them to troll around and make fun of the ridiculous WITP community.

NYCAnon/MFO, however, is hardly the only group to take this stance. WITP is a problematic entity in the world of Anonymous, and many older Anons strongly oppose it. In fact, I have seen the WITP site, along with logs of JakeSully's posts, posted on 4chan's /b/ multiple times for the purpose of mockery.

Cassiopaea comes into the picture because somebody released JakeSully's "dox" (or personal information) which contained the link to this forum and his account here.

Now, we see NYCAnon/MFO blamed for these actions. I can only assume that we are being blamed for the doxing and threats because our group took perhaps the most visible stance against WITP and JakeSully. Nevertheless, it did not stop him from posting these implications on this forum, dragging in yet ANOTHER party into this mess.

Let me make this thing clear. We don't want to be here. We think this whole cassiopaea thing is really silly, to use the most diplomatic language available to me. However, our community has now been implicated in supposed attacks against cassiopaea of which we did not even hear about until today, and again, we think that is really silly.

Anyway, that is our stance and perspective on the issue and I stand behind it 100%.

ADMIN NOTE: Deactivated links

 

[NYCAnon]

Addendum:

If anyone has any questions they would like to ask about NYCAnon/MFO or about the general negative sentiment towards WITP from the Anon community, I will hang around to answer for a while. Otherwise contact an administrator at __www.motherfuckery.org

ADMIN NOTE: Deactivated links

 

[Alana]

Let me make this thing clear. We don't want to be here. We think this whole cassiopaea thing is really silly, to use the most diplomatic language available to me. However, our community has now been implicated in supposed attacks against cassiopaea of which we did not even hear about until today, and again, we think that is really silly.

Anyway, that is our stance and perspective on the issue and I stand behind it 100%.

What is this then?

_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWkH-AVMtYM

It's your (Anon) signature, no?

 

[NYCAnon]

Let me make this thing clear. We don't want to be here. We think this whole cassiopaea thing is really silly, to use the most diplomatic language available to me. However, our community has now been implicated in supposed attacks against cassiopaea of which we did not even hear about until today, and again, we think that is really silly.

Anyway, that is our stance and perspective on the issue and I stand behind it 100%.

What is this then?

_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWkH-AVMtYM

It's your (Anon) signature, no?

No.

All of our videos have a "Motherfuckery.org" stamp and are posted on __www.motherfuckery.org
Such as this: __http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DG3O8dO6XpQ&feature=channel_video_title

ADMIN NOTE: Deactivated links

 

[anart]

Hello, I am an administrator of the NYC Anonymous cell, also known as "MFO" after our website name _www.motherfuckery.org . For confirmation, go to the site and contact an admin.
This thread was brought to my attention by a fellow Anon squarely on the topic of JakeSully's accusation and implication of our group in attacks or provocations we were decidedly not a part of.

NYCAnon/MFO has publicly and repeatedly taken a stance against the community known as WhatIsThePlan.org, as well as its former moderator, r3x, also known as Jake Sully. This was never a secret. A lot of us have accounts of the WITP forum and have used them to troll around and make fun of the ridiculous WITP community.

NYCAnon/MFO, however, is hardly the only group to take this stance. WITP is a problematic entity in the world of Anonymous, and many older Anons strongly oppose it. In fact, I have seen the WITP site, along with logs of JakeSully's posts, posted on 4chan's /b/ multiple times for the purpose of mockery.

Cassiopaea comes into the picture because somebody released JakeSully's "dox" (or personal information) which contained the link to this forum and his account here.

Now, we see NYCAnon/MFO blamed for these actions. I can only assume that we are being blamed for the doxing and threats because our group took perhaps the most visible stance against WITP and JakeSully. Nevertheless, it did not stop him from posting these implications on this forum, dragging in yet ANOTHER party into this mess.

Let me make this thing clear. We don't want to be here. We think this whole cassiopaea thing is really silly, to use the most diplomatic language available to me. However, our community has now been implicated in supposed attacks against cassiopaea of which we did not even hear about until today, and again, we think that is really silly.

Anyway, that is our stance and perspective on the issue and I stand behind it 100%.

Hi NYCAnon, thanks for stopping by. If you've not yet read this article - http://www.sott.net/articles/show/234259-The-New-COINTELPRO-Cyberwarfare-hacktivists-and-the-Subversion-of-Anonymous - it lays out who appears to be behind this. I think the only person who thought it was you/MFO is 'jakescully' - who - actually - appears to be playing both sides against the middle across the board. This is also alluded to in the article I linked. [If I'm mistaken and you're connected to _worldrevolt.net, my apologies]

Anyway, why 'jakescully' is playing all sides against the middle - I can't say, though ideas are certainly flying around and none of them implicate the genuine Anon movement - nor you in any way. Yes, he mentions you in this thread, but his credibility is floating around negative 50 at this point in time due to his actions.

We got pulled into this completely out of the blue due to the fact that this 'jakescully' person decided to spread our name around, so seems that he does that a lot. We looked into the background of the WITP site and the video attack due to a complete lunatic in France who is getting his jollies stalking his ex-wife - and - all of a sudden all of these connections started falling into place - (none of them you).

So - if you have the time, read the article and it might fill in some blanks.

Also, using the word silly works - it's polite and says a lot about you - most people use words as weapons these days, so 'silly' is impressive. :)

 

[Approaching Infinity]

Let me make this thing clear. We don't want to be here. We think this whole cassiopaea thing is really silly, to use the most diplomatic language available to me. However, our community has now been implicated in supposed attacks against cassiopaea of which we did not even hear about until today, and again, we think that is really silly.

Anyway, that is our stance and perspective on the issue and I stand behind it 100%.

(I see anart has replied too, saying essentially what I'm saying, but here it goes anyway: double greeting!)

Welcome to the forum, NYCAnon. Just to clarify, please read our feature here: http://www.sott.net/articles/show/234259-The-New-COINTELPRO-Cyberwarfare-hacktivists-and-the-Subversion-of-Anonymous

We do not implicate MFO in our 'doxing'; we implicate WorldRevolt, which was created by Alex Berta, a cyberwarfare specialist and employee of Jedburgh Corp., and specifically 'Xaman' on that forum, who is working in league with a French perv who we have exposed as such on our site already and has a bone to pick with us.

And, of course, it's totally your prerogative to consider what we do silly. We'll just have to agree to disagree. ;) But to return the favor (props for your diplomacy), if you have any questions about what we do here and what we're all about, feel free to ask.

 

[Guardian]

No.

All of our videos have a "Motherfuckery.org" stamp and are posted on _www.motherfuckery.org
Such as this: _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DG3O8dO6XpQ&feature=channel_video_title

Yup, that's exactly what I figured. Yawl are not exactly known for being subtle :D

In fact, I said this very thing to some friends of mine a just few days ago:

Either Jake is lying through his teeth or he's an absolute moron.

If Motherfuckery had anything to do with this, the vids, DOX's etc. would be all over their site.

Be Well

 

[Dracoliat]

Sup R3X, I don't know if you still remember me, do you? I wonder... I wonder how you would like it if...

 

[Alana]

Let me make this thing clear. We don't want to be here. We think this whole cassiopaea thing is really silly, to use the most diplomatic language available to me. However, our community has now been implicated in supposed attacks against cassiopaea of which we did not even hear about until today, and again, we think that is really silly.

Anyway, that is our stance and perspective on the issue and I stand behind it 100%.

What is this then?

_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWkH-AVMtYM

It's your (Anon) signature, no?

No.

All of our videos have a "Motherfuckery.org" stamp and are posted on __www.motherfuckery.org
Such as this: __http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DG3O8dO6XpQ&feature=channel_video_title

Thank you for clarifying. I hope you get to read the article mentioned by anart and AI. There are some connections in there you might find interesting ;)