Jake Sully, Anonymous and "WhatIsThePlan" - PsyOps?

[Jakesully]

Ok, I've managed to dig up some more info on this {name redacted} guy.

_{link redacted}
- Apparently {name redacted} owns a web hosting company{name redacted}.
- He was also allegedly charged for fraud once.
- A whois lookup shows that his name is {name redacted}
-- _http://www.networksolutions.com/whois-search/{name redacted}
- I did a google search of "{name redacted}" and found his LinkedIn Profile.
-- _http://nl.linkedin.com/in/{name redacted}

Customer & Sales Management, Corporate Advice, Freelance Journalist

- This coincides with the Facebook Profile of {name redacted}.
-- _http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id={name redacted}

Journalist at {name redacted} - General News Service Knows Français, Dutch, English, German, Fries"

- {name redacted} apparently also runs _http://{name redacted}
- The YouTube user "anonymousnetherlands" posted the "#OpPlanB" video
-- _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bv2SBg7j-2w&feature=related
- The same video was mirrored on the YouTube account of{name redacted}, which appears to be a sockpuppet account for "anonymousnetherlands".
-- _{link redacted}
--- Looking at the user profile above, there is a link to _http://{name redacted} next to "Website:".
- Jean's video was translated from French to English, and was probably made by someone else, most likely {name redacted}.
-- _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWkH-AVMtYM

I think {name redacted} is the main guy you're looking for.

 

[Guardian]

I think {name redacted} is the main guy you're looking for.

Nope, he's just another one of the "Useful Idiots" in this saga, but then you already know that don't you Jake?

 

[Buddy]

...if you can cultivate a sensitivity to things that clash with your worldview, and form a habit of actively engaging those things, you can learn a great deal.

Indeed. A story was once told of a Dervish or Sufi who said something like: "My friends are dear to me, but I love my enemies as much, if not more. Where are my enemies?"

From a practical perspective IRL, people who disagree with me on a subject help me identify the roots of opposition that correspond to gaps in my knowledge or discernment. It also teaches me how to better present info in a more externally considerate manner. That's part of my current aim and is another good reason for networking, OSIT.

 

[go2]

Bottom line in all this, Jake, is that it is starting to look like YOU are an agent provocateur.

It must be difficult to do damage control from a text book on Psychological Operations, when you can only guess what normal people are seeing and feeling.

 

[cubbex]

I understand the info I've provided isn't all that helpful.

Jake are you reading those post? looks like you are avoiding them.

 

[Guardian]

I just remembered last night that this "anonymousnetherlands" guy who released one of the videos

"AnonymousNetherlands DID NOT "release one of the videos" he mirrored it, but then you already know that don't you Jake?

 

[stellar]

The danger here is real, but in reality it's this very same small network of psychopaths who were trying to whip up various Anonymous communities against "WhatIsThePlan". There efforts in that regard have never been very successful, and I don't imagine they'd be any more successful in trying to whip people up against Cassiopaea.org. Give it time and let the dust settle, and then if you respond, do it in a manner that doesn't spark blowback. This is the best advice I can give you from my standpoint.

Now why do I understand this as 'just let it go and it will go away on it's own'?

And how about just handing the mods the info you DO have and let them do what they think is best, Jakesully. Clearly it would be the considerate thing to do IMO, no procrastination hmm?

I think Jake is being sincere in his advice to "let the dust settle", the problem is that that advice comes from his viewpoint of actually believing the hype about 'anonymous' (which, like wikileaks, has long since been co-opted and is now an intel operation (to the extent that a bunch of 16 year old gamers who think they are 'hackers' can be an 'operation') and is specifically designed to hype up the idea that this kind of 'hacktivism' could ever do anything beneficial for our world). Jake apparently believes that there is something to fear from 'anonymous'. I don't think there is for the above reason. Of course, we have no beef with any more or less normal person who has bought into the hype and thinks they are part of anonymous or adheres to their 'principles'. We do have a beef with anyone who publicly slanders us as a 'cult' because that spurious accusation clearly identifies them as Cointelpro agents, of either the conscious or unconscious variety.

I'm sorry to say but I fail to see sincerity in avoidance and beating around the bush with something so seriously in need of being resolved.

 

[Laura]

I'm sorry to say but I fail to see sincerity in avoidance and beating around the bush with something so seriously in need of being resolved.

I don't see it either. What I do see, that our researchers have uncovered, is a whole bunch of military connections to this whole thing and Jake Sully has military connections too.

It really looks to me like some Military Cyberwarfare types are trying to kill two birds with one stone or, more accurately, use one bird to attack another bird. And maybe Jake Sully was part of this manipulation. It isn't the first time such a situation has been created for others and ourselves. It's typical COINTELPRO psyops. Get groups that are basically on the same track to start attacking each other and then move on. It's a lot easier to do, also, when there are pathological types with crazy vendettas on their minds to employ as useful idiots.

 

[Al Today]

I know this is off topic, but with all this "heating up" going on lately, I could use a "Shaking Head" smiley.
I'm also saying "That Figures" more and more lately...
Lately...

 

[Joe]

I think Jake is being sincere in his advice to "let the dust settle", the problem is that that advice comes from his viewpoint of actually believing the hype about 'anonymous' (which, like wikileaks, has long since been co-opted and is now an intel operation (to the extent that a bunch of 16 year old gamers who think they are 'hackers' can be an 'operation') and is specifically designed to hype up the idea that this kind of 'hacktivism' could ever do anything beneficial for our world). Jake apparently believes that there is something to fear from 'anonymous'. I don't think there is for the above reason. Of course, we have no beef with any more or less normal person who has bought into the hype and thinks they are part of anonymous or adheres to their 'principles'. We do have a beef with anyone who publicly slanders us as a 'cult' because that spurious accusation clearly identifies them as Cointelpro agents, of either the conscious or unconscious variety.

I'm sorry to say but I fail to see sincerity in avoidance and beating around the bush with something so seriously in need of being resolved.

Well, not to nitpick, but I said he was being sincere in his advice to "let the dust settle", mainly out of a desire to 'save his own skin'. For now, I'm inclined to think that Jake was a useful idiot in all of this.

 

[Lilou]

What I do see, that our researchers have uncovered, is a whole bunch of military connections to this whole thing and Jake Sully has military connections too.

Yes indeed. I noticed the military connections as well...it always raises a flag for me and sometimes even raises the hair on my arms! I'm always cautious with military or even former military types. I've met some very odd ones, for lack of a better term.

[quote author=Laura]
It's a lot easier to do, also, when there are pathological types with crazy vendettas on their minds to employ as useful idiots.
[/quote]

Yes indeed again! Some are useful idiots - just as they were "trained" to be.

 

[Jakesully]

I'm sorry to say but I fail to see sincerity in avoidance and beating around the bush with something so seriously in need of being resolved.

I don't see it either. What I do see, that our researchers have uncovered, is a whole bunch of military connections to this whole thing and Jake Sully has military connections too.

It really looks to me like some Military Cyberwarfare types are trying to kill two birds with one stone or, more accurately, use one bird to attack another bird. And maybe Jake Sully was part of this manipulation. It isn't the first time such a situation has been created for others and ourselves. It's typical COINTELPRO psyops. Get groups that are basically on the same track to start attacking each other and then move on. It's a lot easier to do, also, when there are pathological types with crazy vendettas on their minds to employ as useful idiots.

Laura, please consider the possibility that I've been set up in all of this. It's true that I was in the military, the Marine Corps, from May 2005 to May 2010. However, a little known fact is that I almost got kicked out of the Marine Corps in 2008 because of a MySpace blog in which I talked about 9/11 being an inside job and the fact that the 2004 presidential election was stolen. I was an Electronics Maintenance Technician. I lost my security clearance, which meant that I couldn't work on "SCI" (Secure Compartmented Information) gear, and my unit, 3rd Radio Battalion, at Kaneohe Bay Marine Corps Base Hawaii, "FAP'ed me out" (Fleet Assistance Program) to the rifle range on Kaneohe Bay MCB for the next year and half, where I was essentially working under prison labor conditions because I had lost the respect of my peers, until I finally managed to get out in May 2010 with an honorable discharge, despite going through a living hell.

Being involved in Anonymous back then, (got involved starting in 2008), it was an escape for me. I was literally going insane.

I spent the next year after I got out of the military just trying to heal myself psychologically from the torment of that ordeal, seeking out Reiki and Massage Therapy.

I unwittingly made myself the perfect target, with all of the things I was involved in.

I've had a horrible, horrible life. My whole life has been one disaster after another. I can't even sleep well at night due to the remorse of what I've done, and the fear of what might happen to others as a result.

 

[mcb]

Laura, please consider the possibility that I've been set up in all of this...

I could see myself screwing up like that, given the opportunity, if it were not for the fact that I actively stay as far away from such situations as I possibly can. So thanks for the lesson.

You put yourself in the middle of it, which is a significantly different approach. I don't randomly avoid things. I am constantly reading, observing and investigating in order to know what to avoid (or to engage with), and prior to contact with this group I had much less idea of what I was doing. Perhaps you were caught by surprise by things you didn't yet know (you certainly could have asked). But what what you have been telling us so far has not been particularly convincing; rather it sounds like you might be trying to convince us of something (big difference).

I don't know what the truth is here, but I hope you at least appreciate the restraint people here are showing, considering what has happened.

...I talked about 9/11 being an inside job and the fact that the 2004 presidential election was stolen....I lost my security clearance...

Why I thought those were just stupid stories that people spread around (NOT!!!). No reason to revoke a security clearance over that. Unless they aren't just stupid stories.

 

[Possibility of Being]

Jake, I don't want to sound rude, but I'm not interested at the moment in how miserable your life was. I'm also not much interested who doxed you; you kinda asked for that. What I am interested though is how you happened to find your way to WITP. Facts, Sir. Facts. Step by step.

 

[anart]

Jake, I don't want to sound rude, but I'm not interested at the moment in how miserable your life was. I'm also not much interested who doxed you; you kinda asked for that. What I am interested though is how you happened to find your way to WITP. Facts, Sir. Facts. Step by step.

I don't think that's rude.

'Jake', what you've written reads like a pity ploy. Sorry - way too late for that nonsense.