Jeff Rense EXPOSED!!

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anart said:
Basically, if someone is denied work because of what an ex-employer said, then that someone can sue the ex-employer - it's all rather odd and very much motivated by our litigious society. I was advised, by my then Human Resources manager, to never give any information out, other than dates of employ and whether the person was 're-hirable' or not -that's it - no personal commentary, because that is considered 'subjective'. As I'm writing this, I realize that it is yet another way that our society protects the psychopath.
What I want to know is, what is the point of reference checking?? By what you describe above, if an employer calls to get reference on Mr. X from Mr. X's last employer. And the last employer says, well actually Mr. X stole money from our company and he was not very reliable, never on time, etc... and the new employer does not hire Mr. X based on the reference received from Mr. X's ex-employer. You're saying that Mr. X can sue the new employer for not hiring him? What is the point of reference checking then? Lol!!! :lol:
 
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knowledge_of_self said:
Yes it is a scary thought. And that is why thanks to Laura, and Dr. Lobaczewski, we come one step closer to fighting the spread of psychopathy, by UNDERSTANDING it. That is why as others have stated knowledge protects! I can tell you that after reading the above, one should think twice if they are about to get advice about their mental condition from psychiatrist or psychologists.

Nina
I agree but also many psychologists are well-intentioned folks. And I guess the key here is, as you said, understanding/knowledge. If you go to a psychiatrist or psychologist, how do you know they're not manipulating and programming you with nonsensical trash that only sounds complicated and legit but in reality is designed to confuse and complicate the issue even more? There's no other way but to have a good working knowledge of psychology yourself, and it doesn't mean you have to study the field professionally but just as someone mentioned earlier, by thinking about things and doing some basic analysis yourself. Keyword being think.

Besides, Ruth's suggestion seems to also be a critically detrimental one in terms of dealing with psychopaths and the pathocracy as a whole - the more we understand about the human mind and why people do what they do, the more we can protect ourselves from subtle manipulation, confusion, conditioning, etc. So in fact, just by doing the Work, we all become psychologists, and interestingly, can sometimes end up having a better understanding of certain things than any "certified professional" ever will. The reason is because while a "psychologist" learns what is pretty much a dogmatic set of studies established on theories of others, the practitioner of the esoteric Work seeks to understand reality openly and critically without having to put his trust in any set of assumptions or theories, without having to memorize things to "pass", and without having to limit himself to any "official" understandings in order to get a "certification" or a "title". And as a result of the critical and totally open approach, the one doing the Work can end up SEEing objective reality at levels where psychologists dare not touch or look.

Because if you think about it, as we know, humanity is asleep. This includes all humans with professional degrees and titles as well. So while a psychologist may have a good grasp of certain elements of the human mind (sometimes, other times not even that), he too is asleep, and is most often totally oblivious to his own sleep and ignorance to other things that may be much more profound, fundemental, and critical to his development than what he had learned in school in the field of psychology.

And I think one possible example of that is what I had said earlier about a professional and well-renowned psychologist diagnosing a psychopath as having a personality disorder, nothing more. Probably because of some childhood traumas no doubt *eyeroll*. So in turn he perceives this genetic psychopath as just a person who has been hurt and is simply striking back at the world from his subconscious pain and suffering that had been inflicted upon him in childhood. Poor guy! No doubt much effort is spent to try to counsel and help him snap out of his personality quirks, most likely with no success and much frustration on behalf of the doctors. Of course, that just means the poor guy's traumas must be seated really deep so they just need to try harder - he's a good guy underneath as we all are, right?

How many psychologists, for all their study of the human mind, are aware of concepts like STS and STO? Of course that would be difficult because since all humans are STS, they have no one to study to give them example of STO. And if they did, they could easily call that just another type of personality, give it a long medical name, and teach it in school as that.

One way to see psychologists is to compare them to the occult or "dark magic" or "techno-magic" practitioners. I mean, they all have something there - but they do not see the objective reality at the root of their own practices. They prescribe shallow face-value definitions to things that are in fact much deeper and rooted in something else entirely. So while one group calls what it does "satanistic magic" or "holy spirit light" or "love and light", it may all be simply hyperdimentional energy dynamics as Laura said, no hokey-pokey magic nonsense that they like to call it. Same thing with psychologists and doctors and other professionals - they see SOMETHING, but they often fail to understand what it REALLY is and where it's really coming from, and so instead of expanding their limited world-views and belief systems to understand the phenomenon objectively, they try to fit the phenomenon into their belief systems. It's like seeing stars and the sun and the moon and saying that they're spinning around us because that's what it looks like. So you do have something there - but you fail to really understand what's going on. Why? Assumptions, belief systems, artificial limitations we put on our own knowledge which end up distorting objective reality.

As a result, the practitioner of the Work can go MUCH further than any psychologist or titled professional can even dream of, or conceive, simply by the nature of the totally OPEN and CRITICAL approach to reality. Not partially open and partially critical.

So considering that some members of this forum may have chosen the open and critical approach to understand reality objectively as it really is at every level, I wouldn't simply ignore their advice because they do not have the title of "psychologist", and in fact, their advice may actually potentially be far more beneficial than that of a real psychologist, and their diagnosis more accurate and objective. Of course, maybe not! But if you ignore it out of hand, you'll never know.

Nevermind that many actual "certified" psychologists and other "professionals" are also involved in this work and potentially on this forum - have you asked? Not that it should even matter in terms of your assumption about the accuracy of their diagnosis, but since you choose to make that assumption, you still haven't even asked and jumped to conclusions. But if I was one, I'd probably not even tell you now because it really doesn't matter and really doesn't say anything about what I really know or do not know etc. But by telling you I'd be promoting your own bias, because obviously the reason you'd ask is to see who you should "listen to" for professional diagnosis and who to ignore. And I don't want to promote dangerous assumptions.

On the other hand, psychopaths WILL stress their titles and "authority" and "expertise" as a means to get people to trust their judgement. That's why they got the titles in the first place.
 
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beau said:
Ruth wrote:

No it was just an attempt at 'tail pulling' by Lucy that failed. Nice attempt though.
That wasn't Lucy who said that Ruth. It was Fifth Way.
Actually, you need to read Lucy's post again as she introduced the topic which included me (and was off topic, too - as it had nothing to do with Rense). What you saw and what I saw appears to be different. That doesn't automatically mean that what I see is incorrect or I'm at fault. Or, in fact that anyone has my best interests at heart. That's just laughable. It only means that people get seen for what they really are and not how they want others to see them.

If I bring out the 'worst' in people, let me just say that the 'worst' is pretty unpleasant.
 
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Lisa:
When the lawyer calls back you can always refer to the US State Department. After all, they officially list Rense.com for spreading misinformation. That must be credible, right? Who could possibly be offended by learning that J.Rense is known to be a compulsive liar - by something that is already official State-fact. :P
http://usinfo.state.gov/media/Archive/2005/Jul/27-595713.html
No matter how anybody tries to turn this: You are a great patriot.
 
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knowledge_of_self said:
anart said:
Basically, if someone is denied work because of what an ex-employer said, then that someone can sue the ex-employer - it's all rather odd and very much motivated by our litigious society. I was advised, by my then Human Resources manager, to never give any information out, other than dates of employ and whether the person was 're-hirable' or not -that's it - no personal commentary, because that is considered 'subjective'. As I'm writing this, I realize that it is yet another way that our society protects the psychopath.
What I want to know is, what is the point of reference checking?? By what you describe above, if an employer calls to get reference on Mr. X from Mr. X's last employer. And the last employer says, well actually Mr. X stole money from our company and he was not very reliable, never on time, etc... and the new employer does not hire Mr. X based on the reference received from Mr. X's ex-employer. You're saying that Mr. X can sue the new employer for not hiring him? What is the point of reference checking then? Lol!!! :lol:
Exactly -- there is no point to it - other than verifying that someone actually worked at X location for so much time - that is all you can legally ask and find out - it is utterly ridiculous. Most people, though, if asked about someone that they really liked, or who really did a good job, will volunteer such information by saying something like, "we would love to have them back", or "we sure miss her". After all, saying something good about a person will not cause a problem, so very often, the normal human reaction is to let it be known that the person did a great job and seemed to be a nice person all together.
 
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I'm really glad you reminded me of that State Department "honor".
I will definitely issue a "redirect" if Mr. Schmor calls again.
Have you noticed the deafening silence across the internet on this Rense issue?
Interesting, no?
:-)

p.s. I'm just trying to do all I can as one person who gives a damn, to:

a) identify what's broken; and
b) fix what's broken. (no pressure there..)

It's ALL broken, all of it infiltrated. The alternative media is mostly just a containment press, the "patriot" community is just a larger pen for disaffected sheep, and the 9-11 "truth" movement is an infected bottomless pit of liars, scam artists, snake oil salesmen and ex-mainstream news flunkies like Rense and Daniel Hopsicker.
And that's just dipping a toe into the pond.

I don't know how people sleep at night.

Lisa
 
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The ones who sleep best are asleep during the day as well, so they really don't notice the difference. When you are incapable of even understanding what compassion and truth mean, the absense of these things affects you not at all. Welcome to the zombie nation (world). Actually, it appears that you've been here for a while, working hard at waking the zombies, so a welcome is a bit late. ;)
 
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Ruth said:
Actually, you need to read Lucy's post again as she introduced the topic which included me (and was off topic, too - as it had nothing to do with Rense).
It's not changing the subject that is really the problem as far as I understand it, but the intent/reason for doing so. What was Lucy's reason and what was your reason? Do you not see a difference?

What you saw and what I saw appears to be different. That doesn't automatically mean that what I see is incorrect or I'm at fault.
I agree it does not, and this is why this group is really more about discussing rather than debating. Debating is trying to convince the other that you're right, meaning, you already assume that you're right, and so the only task is to convince the other. But an open discussion involves questioning not only what others say but what you think and say. If you never question if you're wrong, how can you seek truth?

Or, in fact that anyone has my best interests at heart.
There is no guarantee that anyone ever has your best interests at heart. There's no certainty or guarantee of anything. But if you never consider the possibility, how could you know? It seems like the part of you that was threatened initially is now trying to convince you that no one really has your best interests at heart other than yourself, or at least no one on this forum! You didn't exactly say that, but I think this was probably the subtle implication behind what you just said. Of course, I may be wrong, but am I?

That's just laughable.
I think this remark is further evidence that my above observation is probably either right or close. Why is it laughable that someone on the group can have your best interests at heart? What if they do? What if you are wrong?

It only means that people get seen for what they really are and not how they want others to see them.
"It only means" - to what are you referring to? What is the "it" that led you to this conclusion? Again somehow I get the impression that you're talking about the members of this forum, as in, they are showing "their true colors" and you're seeing past their "disguise". If true, this is further evidence that the part of you that has been identified and now threatened is distorting your perspective 180 degrees.

If I bring out the 'worst' in people, let me just say that the 'worst' is pretty unpleasant.
I don't understand what this means or how this has anything to do with anything. But dare I say this is another typical example of what the group has been trying to tell you about the nature of your posts? And it seems that the part of you that is threatened is now getting really defensive, and as such, shows itself more.

Ruth, why do you think, out of the blue, the members of this forum would suddenly attack you? Please use common sense and what you know about this forum from your experience here. What reason could the members possibly have to suddenly conspire and gang up on you, and try to convince you that you're wrong in some way, or that you have a schizoid part to you that is showing? You've read countless posts and writings by Laura and other members on this forum, have you ever encountered an unfair and unjust "attack" on anyone by these members and Laura included, ever!!?

What is more likely, that this is happening now, or that maybe they are indeed seeing something in you that you're not?

The fact that nothing is certain makes it possible for the predator's mind to artificially enhance probabilities that in reality are much smaller. That's how the war on terrorism could even exist as a commonly accepted concept, and how an entire nation can be made to be afraid of a phantom threat that, although probably exists, it is no more than it has ever been. So while yes the whole forum, Laura, myself, Lucy, you name it - everyone CAN be wrong, it is just as true as saying "Well the threat of terrorism CAN be huge and global and real!". Ok, but just look at the evidence, and same thing here, look at the evidence and use common sense. Right now you're basically waging a personal war on terrorism that is reflected in the real one. It is based on lies, based on defensive mentality, based on paranoid thinking, based on assumptions and fear (well fear on behalf of that part of you that is threatened anyway).
 
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Lisa said:
I don't know how people sleep at night.
As you can see the ones with a conscience don't. They are on this forum instead! LOL
 
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SCO said:
Ruth said:
If I bring out the 'worst' in people, let me just say that the 'worst' is pretty unpleasant.
I don't understand what this means or how this has anything to do with anything.
I think Ruth's statement is an inverted perception. If you hold a mirror to it it becomes: "I think people bring out the 'worst' in me...". And perhaps this is the crux of the matter. If so, it's a valuable opportunity to understand that 'worst', and why it is so.

If you look at the patterns of threads where you get into heated debate, Ruth, it is you who throws the first stone. Then you react as if you didn't. Disagreement is good, but disagreeing with an attitude that seems to hold a deliberate intent to provoke, and then acting the innocent victim is a sign of acute denial.

It's like walking down the street slapping people and then complaining when people defend themselves. I do not think the members of this forum are willing to practice "turn the other cheek" philosophies for your convenience, and I don't think you really want them to do so. You seem to be provoking to get a reflection of yourself that you cannot see on your own. It's an effective and drastic tactic, but it's also thoughtless. And I am not speculating. This pattern has been repeated over and over.

The point is that you are chronically angry, and need to create reasons to justify it, otherwise you will have to face the infestation point blank without any excuses. That takes courage, and behind most chronic anger fear also lurks. I think that fear is the key that can resolve this.

Of course sincerity cannot be taught, just applied. And the energy of that anger needs to be diverted into brutal self-honesty without self-condemnation. And not condemning yourself also requires courage. You certainly have your work cut out for you Ruth. Hey, react all you want. At SOME point it WILL hit the fan because something in you wants to be free of the burden. It's just a matter of time until it gains enough strength to provide the lesson that will change things.

As far as whose interests anyone has at heart, I just think most on this forum have the interests of truth at heart, and although there is no guarantee that reflections provided are always accurate, there is a reason to examine them: we can save ourselves a lot of trouble, and greatly soften that lesson clincher we are bound to encounter by being honest with ourselves sooner rather than later.

As you said, those lizzies are quite clever, and most of us have to be outsmarted several times before we get the hang of things.
 
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Yes, Ruth does seem to have something inside her that provokes her to create situations where others will mirror her own behavior. We have seen this time and again, and when the person finally looks in that mirror honestly, they then know that the battle must be engaged with the self and not everyone "out there." It is the battle between the small, quiet, mostly sleeping SELF and the mechanical being that has taken charge of her life.

I've said all this before, but it bears repeating:

QFG members have witnessed this battle quite a few times but even so, until the individual engages it themselves, they cannot know the "life or death" taste of it.

Each person's circumstances will be specific to them, but the progress up the staircase is always one step at a time, and the first step is this initial struggle to overcome the incredible control of the "predator" so as to be able to see your mechanical self through the eyes of others on the same path in order to get an objective view. This is crucial and the first initiation, as Gurdjieff calls it; it is the thing that enables a person to measure themselves, without which ability, they can never measure anything else. The degree of struggle probably has a lot to do with the level of distortion of the centers which depends on many factors, including the person's fundamental make-up put together with influences from family, society, and so on.

The role played by those acting sincerely as the "mirror" is crucial.

This brings me to Robbie Burns wonderful little poem: "To A Louse On seeing one on a Lady's bonnet at Church."

When we read this little masterpiece, we can almost see the louse crawling in the unconscious lady's bonnet, a lady we are brought to understand gives herself some airs and her illusions of grandeur are crawling with lice.

Burns inserts a bit of social satire in the piece with the exaggerated indignation he uses to describe the contrast between the vulgarity of the louse and the social pretensions of the lady. Burns outrage is actually mockery of the lady herself which we learn when he suddenly drops his pose of disturbed onlooker and names the lady, a simple country girl: Jenny. At this point, his remarks become somewhat pitying because he is telling us something very deep about that part of her that could be real and not pretentious and self-righteous, but how difficult it is to awaken it:

O wad some Pow'r the giftie gie us
To see oursels as others see us
It wad frae monie a blunder free us
An' foolish notion
What airs in dress an' gait wad lea'e us
An' ev'n Devotion.

For those of you who might have trouble translating this dialect, it is simply saying that the gift of being able to see ourselves as others see us would save us from many errors and foolish thoughts and ridiculous behavior, and we would most certainly cease being devoted to those things that shore up and support our illusions about ourselves which perpetuate the absurd personality that we think is really our true self.

As ya'll know, we often refer to this as "the predator" but what we really mean is the whole gamut of "automatic programs" and "learned behaviors" and "knee jerk responses" that we are all heir to as a consequence of our upbringing, social pressures, trying to please others in order to survive, and so on.

This, in no way, refers to some kind of "possession", pathological dissociation, or whatever.

The ways and means that we ensure survival of the ego are established pretty early in life by our parental and societal programming. This conditioning determines what IS or is NOT possible; what we are "allowed" to believe in order to be accepted. We learn this first by learning what pleases our parents and then later we modify our belief based on what pleases our society - our peers and even our government - to believe.

One of the first things we might observe is that everyone has a different set of beliefs about the world and themselves based upon their social and familial conditioning, and that these beliefs determine how much of the OBJECTIVE reality anyone is able to access.

Human beings - faced with unpleasant truths about themselves or their reality - react like alcoholics who refuse to admit their condition, or the cuckolded husband who is the "last to know," or the wife who does not notice that her husband is abusing her daughter. (And we notice quite often that it is much easier to see another person's "blind spot in the mind" than our own. This is a key point that we should always bear in mind. If WE can see someone else's blind spot so easily, and they cannot, it may also be true about ourselves!)

In States of Denial: Knowing about Atrocities and Suffering, (Cambridge: Polity Press; Malden, MA: Blackwell Publishers, 2001), Stanley Cohen discusses the subject of denial which may shed some light here:

Denial is a complex unconscious defence mechanism for coping with guilt, anxiety and other disturbing emotions aroused by reality. Denial can be both deliberate and intentional, as well as completely subconscious.

An individual who is deliberately and intentionally denying something is acting from an individual level of lying, concealment and deception.
I don't think that we are dealing with something like that here.

What we are dealing with is denial that is subconscious and therefore is generally a result of familial and social programming combined with what the individual learned to do to survive, i.e. get love, food, assurances that they will not be abandoned.

This learning can occur by trial and error, or by observing what other people do and whether it works or not. This learning starts in infancy, before we are even aware of it, and even before we are verbal. A baby learns that smiling and cooing gets lots of attention. Or, a baby learns that crying gets no response at all, that expressing discomfort is ignored. Ignoring a baby's cries is a cruel and heartless trick and it teaches that baby that the Universe is cold and unresponsive and the infant is likely to dissociate and/or turn inward and create fantasies about himself, the world, etc... all before he is even able to articulate in words. This becomes a heavy "first circuit" program that determines the most fundamental of emotional reactions to the world, other people, events, etc.

All of these programs become entrenched circuits in our brain, body, being. Like Pavlov's dogs that salivated at the sound of the bell, we become machines. Somebody says or does something, something happens in our reality, and it's like the ringing bell and we just "salivate," (do whatever it is that is programmed in us to do.)

For some people, these layers and layers of reaction programs, survival programs, how to get what you want/need programs, are so thick and so dominant, that there is little possibility of any real consciousness to manifest.

Since most of these programs are directly tied to such emotional states, the instant something happens "out there," the emotions of fear of being hungry, fear of being abandoned, fear of being hurt, get triggered and everything and everybody are seen through the filter of this almost uncontrollable fear.

Most programs that cause us to end up "in the soup" so to say, are programs created by our exposure to the endemic narcissism of our culture. We know, from reading what many members share about their lives, that they were raised by a narcissists or had significant exposure to same at some crucial point in their lives; almost as bad is being raised or influenced by a narccissist enabler.

And so we know that many of the "walking wounded" have not only been "food" for a narcissist, but have also learned to be one in order to get succor when the emotions are triggered which is about all the time.

When you are raised by a narcissist, your emotions are definitely ON, only it is the negative half of the emotional center and it has a "hair trigger." You become "prickly" like a cactus, and people feel like they have to walk on eggshells around you in order to prevent setting you off on one of your emotional rants/states.

And of course, after those rants begin to wind down, there is always the "poor, pitiful me" thing that runs that re-engages the food source... "I'm so awful, I don't know why I do that... it must be all the awful things I've suffered... please help me... oh, woe is me."

And certainly, since a person like this has functioned this way for literally their whole life, beginning in infancy, they don't really know much else. They are sure that all these things that just run automatically in them are "the real me... that's just how I am... " That's all they know.

But IF such a person has some kind of "seed of the self" buried in there, they are generally not very happy living this way. They can't let go and become complete narcissists or psychos or use other people without paying some kind of price inside where they suffer but don't exactly know why. Such people then begin to search for - they know not what - but basically an end to this suffering that they feel for "being themselves."

They don't realize that, above all things, they are NOT being themselves and THAT is the reason for the sensation of discomfort, the pain inside...

This may not always be the case, but it is often enough. My way is to be open to all possibilities. Yes, that exposes me to the danger of being open to the wrong people, to being deceived and hurt, but it also makes it possible to be open to the RIGHT people.

What people need to understand is that the so-called Personality is a construct of your reactions to your experiences, most of which were manipulative, unpleasant and/or negative. And that means the whole thing - your entire concept of yourself and all your ways and means of perceiving, evaluating, and reacting to the world out there and inside are nothing but a set of programmed circuits that run automatically.

Once you can accept that, fully and deeply, and begin to examine your life from as far back as you can remember, look at every detail, how everything you are, everything that you learned to be in that "school of the world" that puts you inside a manipulating shell, having to play games with yourself and others in order to get your needs met, or to assuage that fear of not being love, of being abandoned, of dying; if you can look at it, then perhaps, somewhere in there you will find the original self, a self that had dreams of BEing yourself, supported fully by the universe, and what that self might be.

So, coming back to the original point: you need to realize that what you are battling is not "yourself" except in the sense that you are battling the shell that has been created by your life experiences, and that was all built on the foundation of how you were treated as an infant and child. It is all a construct built up to protect that child that was terrified of being hungry, abandoned, unloved; and generally, it has nothing to do at all with the real YOU.

The First Initiation

You will see that in life you receive exactly what you give. Your life is the mirror of what you are. It is in your image. You are passive, blind, demanding. You take all, you accept all, without feeling any obligation. Your attitude toward the world and toward life is the attitude of one who has the right to make demands and to take, who has no need to pay or to earn. You believe that all things are your due, simply because it is you! All your blindness is there! ...

You live exclusively according to "I like" or "I don't like," you have no appreciation except for yourself. You recognize nothing above you-theoretically, logically, perhaps, but actually no. That is why you are demanding and continue to believe that everything is cheap and that you have enough in your pocket to buy everything you like. You recognize nothing above you, either outside yourself or inside. That is why, I repeat, you have no measure and live passively according to your likes and dislikes.

Yes, your "appreciation of yourself" blinds you. It is the biggest obstacle to a new life. You must be able to get over this obstacle, this threshold, before going further.

This test divides men into two kinds: the "wheat" and the "chaff." No matter how intelligent, how gifted, how brilliant a man may be, if he does not change his appreciation of himself, there will be no hope for an inner development, for a work toward self-knowledge, for a true becoming. He will remain such as he is all his life.

The first requirement, the first condition, the first test for one who wishes to work on himself is to change his appreciation of himself. He must not imagine, not simply believe or think, but see things in himself which he has never seen before, see them actually. His appreciation will never be able to change as long as he sees nothing in himself. And in order to see, he must learn to see; this is the first initiation of man into self- knowledge.

... If he sees one time he can see a second time, and if that continues he will no longer be able not to see. This is the state to be looked for, it is the aim of our observation; it is from there that the true wish will be born, the irresistible wish to become: from cold we shall become warm, vibrant; we shall be touched by our reality.

Today we have nothing but the illusion of what we are. We think too highly of ourselves. We do not respect ourselves. In order to respect myself, I have to recognize a part in myself which is above the other parts, and my attitude toward this part should bear witness to the respect that I have for it. In this way I shall respect myself. And my relations with others will be governed by the same respect.

You must understand that all the other measures-talent, education, culture, genius-are changing measures, measures of detail. The only exact measure, the only unchanging, objective real measure is the measure of inner vision. I see-I see myself-by this, you have measured. With one higher real part, you have measured another lower part, also real. And this measure, defining by itself the role of each part, will lead you to respect for yourself.

But you will see that it is not easy. And it is not cheap. You must pay dearly. For bad payers, lazy people, parasites, no hope. You must pay, pay a lot, and pay immediately, pay in advance. Pay with yourself. By sincere, conscientious, disinterested efforts. The more you are prepared to pay without economizing, without cheating, without any falsification, the more you will receive. And from that time on you will become acquainted with your nature. And you will see all the tricks, all the dishonesties that your nature resorts to in order to avoid paying hard cash. Because you have to pay with your ready-made theories, with your rooted convictions, with your prejudices, your conventions, your "I like" and "I don't like." Without bargaining, honestly, without pretending. Trying "sincerely" to see as you offer your counterfeit money.

Try for a moment to accept the idea that you are not what you believe yourself to be, that you overestimate yourself, in fact that you lie to yourself. That you always lie to yourself every moment, all day, all your life. That this lying rules you to such an extent that you cannot control it any more. You are the prey of lying. You lie, everywhere. Your relations with others-lies. The upbringing you give, the conventions-lies. Your teaching-lies. Your theories, your art-lies. Your social life, your family life-lies. And what you think of yourself-lies also.

But you never stop yourself in what you are doing or in what you are saying because you believe in yourself. You must stop inwardly and observe. Observe without preconceptions, accepting for a time this idea of lying. And if you observe in this way, paying with yourself, without self-pity, giving up all your supposed riches for a moment of reality, perhaps you will suddenly see something you have never before seen in yourself until this day.

You will see that you are different from what you think you are.

You will see that you are two.

One who is not, but takes the place and plays the role of the other. And one who is, yet so weak, so insubstantial, that he no sooner appears than he immediately disappears. He cannot endure lies. The least lie makes him faint away. He does not struggle, he does not resist, he is defeated in advance. Learn to look until you have seen the difference between your two natures, until you have seen the lies, the deception in yourself. When you have seen your two natures, that day, in yourself, the truth will be born.
Recently, I was pondering this issue of "the mirror" and how some people can "get it" and some people simply cannot. This latter type, as soon as they face the pooled observations of the group which point out to them their "blunders" and "foolish notions" and "airs in dress an' gait and Devotion," withdraw immediately into the "right man syndrome."

They are "right," everyone else is wrong, their case is special and unique, and that is that.

They will argue and nitpick and so on. And we know what this comes from: the energy of the emotional center has been aroused and usurped by the intellect to fuel its frenzied and frantic need to "self-calm". They MUST stop this "bad feeling" at all costs, and if the only way they can stop it is to make everything and everyone out there "wrong" about them, then that is what they do - usually to their own detriment, turning away the people who care about them the most. As Mouravieff wrote:

"When it comes to the other centres, the misuse of the negative parts takes much more insidious forms, which entail more serious consequences for our minds as well as our bodies. That is how the negative part of the intellectual centre nourishes jealousy, afterthoughts, hypocrisy, suspicion, treachery, etc. The negative part of the emotional centre receives all the disagreeable impressions and serves as a vehicle for negative emotions, for which the keyboard is very large, ranging from melancholy to hate. We shall have occasion to go deeper into the problem of negative emotions. Their destructive role is generally unknown, but represents one of the major obstacles to esoteric evolution."
I wrote about this issue in "Truth or Lies," where I applied it to fundamentalists in particular. But because of recent observations of a couple of dynamics here in our local environment, it seems that there are other applications.

What seems to be so is that it is generally individuals who have been "disenfranchised" or who feel helpless and at the mercy of the forces of life - whether they manifest through other people or random events - are those who are most likely to erect such barriers against negative emotions. They feel acutely their own inability to have an effect in the world, and they turn their creativity inward to create and maintain their illusions, their "blunders" and "foolish notions" and "airs in dress an' gait and Devotion."

Self-calming illusions thrive on certain mechanical characteristics of human beings. The first characteristic is "absolute certainty." In this sense, it is a sort of terminal consciousness in which development is stopped because real growth and development includes, of necessity, uncertainty and risk. This point was actually made by Jesus in the parable of the talents.

In this story, Jesus describes "Knowledge" as "money" given to three servants. Two of the servants utilize their talents/gold to obtain even more. In fact, the exact description is that they "invest," or take a risk by giving up what they have been given - what they know (knowledge of the kingdom) - in order to multiply it. And the servant who clings desperately to his little bit of knowledge/money, burying it in the ground from fear that his Master is hard and demanding, loses even the little that he has. He closed his mind to more knowledge. He assumed that what he had was sufficient and stopped seeking. He denied himself by denying knowledge and the risks entailed in gaining it.

This "absolute certainty" - the burying of the talent - is very similar to what is sometimes called the "Right Man Syndrome." The Right Man lives in a world of fantasy and indulges in grandiose dreams of success (rewards in heaven) without any realistic attempts to make them come true. They rely on their illusions and their "sacrifices" - "blunders" and "foolish notions" and "airs in dress an' gait and Devotion" to bring them rewards.

The Right Man is generally a person who has a "high need for dominance," but who repeatedly (perhaps as a child) finds himself in life situations of subordinance. Placed in such situations, they attempt to express their dominance need in the only ways available to them: generally manipulation for power, hinting to anyone who will listen that THEY, and they alone, have achieved some kind of "initiation" and if others will only listen to them, they will also achieve this position of initiatory righteousness that is really just a consequence of ultimate self-calming.

What is crucial to understand is that this "self-calming" - taken to such an extreme is basically "giving their will" away in exchange for illusory benefits that they have created in their mind. The choice to use one's creativity this way, in the maintenance of illusion, takes a tremendous toll on the soul because the energy that might be used for growth and development is consumed by a lie to the self.

The "absolute certainty" of the person who chooses the self-calming route locks them into Entropy and their creative energy goes to feed a vast system of illusion. These systems are the creation and maintenance of the "yes, but" syndrome taken to an extreme. Again, Mouravieff speaks about this:

"[The yes, but excuses] when applied to ourselves and for our own benefit, with the aim of softening a shock, or rediscovering our inner peace after we have sinned, or excusing our actions or faults, this idiom crystallizes within us over a period of time to create a true auto-tranquillizing mechanism. [...] it is a true mechanism of mental anaesthesia, founded on a refined and disguised lie. It sows hypocrisy in man towards himself. "
A person with such a highly developed auto-tranquillizer is very much like the paranoid schizophrenic, they devise baroque and ingenious systems of perception and define them as either "given by god" or given to them specifically and exclusively by higher density beings, or achieved through some form of initiation that only they know or, in the simplest sense, it is just what they are THINKING and so, it MUST be right!

Here, we must keep in mind that I am talking about individuals whose abilities to interact with others, whose competence in what the C's refer to the basic lessons of this density, i.e. simple understandings of relationships, karma, etc, are obviously lacking to an extreme degree. Otherwise, they would not have found themselves receiving a "mirror" while in our presence.

It can be observed that such individuals, no matter what you say to them about their failure to interact with others in true activities of striving for STO, will spend an enormous amount of energy editing out all impressions that are contrary to their system of illusion.

This then leads to another aspect of the Right Man: "self-righteousness." They MUST look down on others who do not share their illusion! It is extremely important to get others to believe in their illusion in order to confirm its "rightness" even if they claim, on the surface, that "everyone has the right to their own opinion." The fact is, they cannot tolerate anyone else's opinion if it is different from their own because it threatens their "rightness."

This rightness MUST be maintained at all costs because, deep inside, the Right Man (or woman) is usually struggling with horror at their own helplessness. Their rightness is a dam that holds back their worst fears: that they are lost and alone and that there really is no god because how could there be a god who loves them if they have to suffer so much? Their inability to feel truly loved and accepted deep within is, in effect, like being stranded in a nightmare from which they cannot wake up.

All of this can be traced back to a poorly developed emotional center, or a sleeping emotional center, or even a grossly deformed emotional center. As Mouravieff writes:

Among the lower centres, the emotional centre is worst off. In our civilization- as we have already observed- it generally receives neither rational education nor systematic training. Its formation and development are now left to chance, since religious education today has been largely intellectualized and rationalized.

All sorts of considerations dictated by worldly wisdom and mundane vanity; the habitual practice of lying - especially to ourselves -and hypocrisy, from which no one is totally exempt, imprint dangerous distortions on the emotional centre.

Frequently struck by a feeling of inferiority and by the need for compensation, its usual motivation; accustomed as it is to judge and to criticize everybody and everything; surrendering itself to a strangely voluptuous enjoyment of negative emotions; this centre becomes unrecognizable. It degenerates to the point where it becomes the instrument of destruction of our being, which it accelerates on its way towards ageing and death. [...]
Here Mouravieff gives the reason why the awakening and calibration of the EMOTIONAL Center is the first step:

As no direct link exists between the lower intellectual centre and the higher intellectual centre, the intellectual culture which is the almost exclusive basis of our education cannot lead us to higher levels of consciousness.

In spite of the refinement of his intelligence, no matter how extensive or deep the knowledge he acquires, exterior man remains enclosed within the circle of reason.

Escape is possible only via the heart; that is why the cultivation of our emotional life dominates the attention, the preoccupations and the obligatory efforts demanded by esoteric teachings.

However, if a purely intellectual culture, rational and positive, cannot lead us directly towards the higher planes of Life, one must not think that it is useless. From the esoteric point of view, it retains its full value, and will be of great help when Individuality is formed within us.
Notice in this last remark that intellect is NOT being cast aside, it is noted that it is VERY important, but that its importance can only be fully utilized AFTER the individuality is formed. Intellect, knowledge, is the vessel into which the spirit is poured when the "gate of the heart is opened."

A second note is this: none of this deals with "love" in the sense that it is normally taught by the "gurus," but rather an awake and calibrated emotional center, the "eyes of the soul", and so, Mouravieff points out the following:

But we have to begin at the beginning, that is to say, with the training of our hearts and the refinement of our emotional lives. ... Access to the higher emotional centre is access to the level of consciousness of the real, individual 'I'. Access to the higher intellectual centre raises us to the level of Consciousness - that is, to participation in the universal 'I', through the interior communion it permits. This is the end of all possible evolution for man under terrestrial conditions.
The differences between "A" and "B" influences are not just the difference between the "worldly" life vs the "spiritual" life. It is clearly more than that.

Let us now examine from the practical point of view how man can reach esotericism; by what means he can work towards the aim of establishing permanent connections which will make it possible for him to evolve. The problem is treated in the Tradition by the help of the diagram below. In esoteric teaching this figure could be said to be the most important. It incorporates a multitude of ideas; far more than the comments we are about to give. That is why we must return to it often and meditate upon it.

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The black arrows represent influences created within life by life itself. This is the first variety of influence by which man is surrounded. These are called 'A' influences. We will notice that they are distributed almost equally over all the surface of the circle of life. As in the case of all radiant energy in nature, their effect is inversely proportional to the square of the distance; thus man is subject most of all to arrows influencing him from those immediately around him. He is pulled every instant by the way they act at that moment.

The influence of the 'A' arrows on exterior man is imperative; driven, he wanders in the circle of his life from birth to death, following a broken line which is sometimes subject to dangerous changes of direction.

The ensemble of 'A' influences forms the Law of Chance or Law of Accident. Man is subject to its rule, yet if we examine the figure more closely we will perceive that each black arrow is counterbalanced, neutralized in some other part by another arrow equal in force and diametrically op- posed, so that if we had left them to effectively neutralize each other the resultant force would have been equal to zero. This means that in their ensemble the 'A' influences are illusory in their nature, although the effect of each one of them is real, so that exterior man takes them for reality.

The white circle represents the esoteric Centre, located outside the general laws of life.

The white arrows represent influences called 'B'. These influences are thrown into the turmoil of life and originate from the esoteric Centre. Created outside life, these arrows are all oriented in the same direction. In their ensemble they form a sort of magnetic field.

Since 'A' influences neutralize each other, 'B' influences actually constitute the only reality.

The small circle with the shaded lines represents man, who in this figure is taken in isolation. The oblique shaded lines signify that the nature of exterior man is not homogeneous: it is mixed.

If man spends his life without distinguishing between ''A' and 'B' influences, he will end it as he started, one could say mechanically, driven by the Law of Accident. However, according to the nature and the intensity of the resultant forces to which he is subjected, it can happen to him to make a brilliant career, in the meaning the world gives to this expression.

Yet he will come to the end of his days without having either learned or understood anything of Realty. And earth returns to earth.

In life every being is subjected to a sort of competitive test. If he discerns the existence of the 'B' influences; if he acquires a taste for gathering and absorbing them; if he continually aspires to assimilate them better; his mixed inner nature will slowly undergo a certain kind of evolution. And if the efforts which he makes to absorb the 'B' influences are constant and sufficient in force, a magnetic centre can be formed within him. This magnetic centre is represented in the diagram by the small white space.

If this centre once born in him is carefully developed, it takes form, and in its turn will exercise an influence over the results of the 'A' arrows which are always active, deflecting them. Such a deflection may be violent. In general it transgresses the laws of exterior life and provokes many conflicts in and around man.

If he loses the battle, he emerges with the conviction that the 'B' influences are nothing but illusion: that the only reality is represented by the 'A' influences. Slowly the magnetic centre which had been formed within him is reabsorbed and vanishes. Then, from the esoteric point of view, his situation is worse than the one he had started with, when he was just beginning to discern the 'B' influences.

But if he emerges a winner in this first struggle, his magnetic centre, consolidated and reinforced, will draw him to a man having a 'C' influence stronger than his own, and possessing a stronger magnetic centre. And so on in succession, the last man being in connection with another having an influence 'D', who will be his link with the Esoteric Centre 'E'.

Henceforth in life, that man will no longer be isolated.

He will certainly continue to live as before under the action of the 'A' influences, which for a long time will continue to exercise their power over him; yet little by little, thanks to the effect of the influence of the chain 'B'-'C'-'D'-'E', his magnetic centre will develop. To the measure of its growth, the man will escape the dominion of the Law of Chance and enter the domain of Consciousness.
I think it is interesting that Mouravieff has diagrammed the influences as "arrows." This reminds us of the C's remark about "consciousness energy directors." That is to say, that A and B influences can also be viewed as "creative" or "entropic," and certainly there can be "A" influences that may appear to be very "spiritual" or "esoteric". Mouravieff has actually given us something to think about in his second diagram of such influences:

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This second figure, with black magnetic centres, represents the situation where man deludes himself and, believing he is absorbing 'B' influences and making the necessary selection all the while, he in fact absorbs 'A' influences, those of the black arrows that are in some way parallel to the white arrows of the 'B' influences. This will put him into contact with people who possess magnetic centres of the same nature: who are themselves duped or who dupe others, and who have no direct or indirect link with the esoteric Centre.
Mouravieff then poses the question:

What guarantee can man have that he will not dupe himself and that he will not fall into the latter situation? The answer is simple. The purity of the magnetic centre must be scrupulously maintained from the start and all through his evolution.
How can one maintain the "purity" of the magnetic center?

Only with the work of a group in the constant vigilance against lying to the self. A group that sincerely mirrors a person and lovingly points out to them when they have become the Lady wearing the bonnet infested with lice.

"If man wants to reach the Way, it is imperative that he stops lying to himself from his first steps on the track. If not, he will not be able to build his cage or, if he is able to start building it, the walls will tumble as soon as he intentionally seeks to cheat himself. He must no longer try to justify him self when a fall occurs, while he knows in his inmost heart that the reasons he is giving himself are not valid. "
But here we come up against two special types of lying discussed by Mouravieff that we encounter often enough that it deserves some attention. He writes:

To these classic cases of lying, one must add two particular cases:

Hypocrisy: the pretence of virtue, of praiseworthy sentiments, with the intent to deceive persons of good faith.
We have seen this in types like Vincent Bridges and Jay Weidner, Bush, and so on. Such individuals KNOW that they are liars and cheats and thieves and murderers. I'm not too sure that Mareiki was of this sort - I leave it open that she is just a really messed up Pavlovian reacter.

But there is this other kind of lying that we have also seen, and it is particularly heartbreaking, I think.

The integral lie: this characterizes that person who, from a habit of lying and cheating on every occasion, ends by believing his own lies and thus loses all sense of truth.
Here we are again describing the "right man" who has been disenfranchised from childhood, who has HAD to create an illusory world of competence to defend themselves against the realization of helplessness.

Mouravieff tells us:

These two last cases are the hardest to cure: hypocrisy, in fact, must be deeply rooted in the Personality of the human being to become an element of his behaviour. To overcome this tendency within oneself requires considerable and painful efforts. No fruitful esoteric work can be undertaken by anyone who has not first rid himself of this vice. It is dangerous for a hypocrite even to start searching for the Way, as he is condemned to fall in advance.

It is the same for him who has become a prey to integral lying. Nevertheless, if these lies are not soiled with hypocrisy, meaning that if the intentional mythomaniac element is entirely lacking, this case is easier to cure than the preceding one.
Here, Mouravieff suggests that the individual who has lied to himself so long that he believes his own lies CAN be "cured," so to say - IF their lies are not complicated by consciousness of lying.

I'm not so sure about this, though, because it is pretty rough to have to strip the self of all one's cosy beliefs - contradictory though they may be - and face the fact that about everything you ever thought or believed or promoted or said or did or even thought, was either outright lies, based on lies, or so twisted that you actually look like a complete fool in your own eyes. That's a tough pill to swallow.

But, returning to the problem at hand, Mouravieff tells us that there are four conditions required to search for "The Way."

* a passionate desire to reach it;

* discernment;

* a discipline of steel;

* initiative.

So, you start with this BURNING desire...

And then you must learn discernment. This is the very FIRST task and takes us back to the problem of the necessity for purity so as to be sure that one is not creating a "black magnetic center" as described above. Mouravieff says about the problem of discernment:

...one must then apply himself to develop the faculty of discernment by every means.

Let us repeat that we live inside the Mixtus Orbis, where we find real and imaginary facts and phenomena inextricably intermixed. The difficulty in separating them is due to the fact that the Imaginary resembles the Real in the same way that the space beyond a mirror reflects what is actually present on the facing side. When surrounded by mirrors, we can easily lose all notion of what is real.

Using mathematical language, we would write the equation: I=R X sq.rt. -1 where I, the Imaginary, is equal to R, the real, multiplied by the imaginary number, the square root of minus one.

To recognize the square root of -1, wherever it exists, means acquiring discernment.

Even though the Imaginary closely resembles the Real, as in the case of the mirror there is always a difference between them, because the image is inverted with regard to the object: this applies to all sorts of products of the unreal, and puts us on the way to detecting them.

The 'A' influences among which we live are by their nature imaginary; but they can result in or produce real effects. This is what constantly happens in life. Thus the fear of some imaginary danger pushes us to take concrete precautionary measures.
At this point, Mouravieff talks about two ways to develop discernment.

-The negative method, or method of exclusion, is recommended to man 3, that is, the intellectual type;

-The positive method, or method of integration, is recommended to man 2, the emotional type.
[One question that might be asked is: how can you tell the difference between someone who has the center of gravity in the intellect, or one who has the center of gravity in the emotional? I think that the key is above, that for the person with the intellect as center of gravity, a "critical analysis" is the general method of dealing with life, and there is very little "imaginative" ideation about things, even very anomalous things. It is very hard for such a person to "believe" anything at all. Even if they create theories about things, they always seem to be still somewhat "open" to the next bit of data.

The individual with the emotional center dominant may seem to do a lot of "critical analysis," but they do it with a "terminus a quo" - or a starting point of belief. They are not quite able to divest themselves of a starting belief to which they cling no matter what. This can create special problems.]

Looking at the first way, the way reccommended to a person who is more "intellectual," and has pretty much a sleeping emotional center, Mouravieff mentions that the individual with the anaesthetized emotional center will NOT see the light except at the peak of his efforts. He describes the problem in this way:

In principle, man 3 is endowed with a tendency not to believe. He is of a rather sceptical nature: he often and easily progresses to a critical analysis of the facts and problems that face him. The centre of gravity of his mental life is in intellectual activity.

The negative method takes these characteristics into account.

In observing the movements of the inner life, it undertakes a critical analysis of the most scrupulous and impartial type possible. It observes the comings and goings of the little 'I's or groups of little 'I's and, recognizing them as being Non-I's, makes an effort not to be identified with them.

Little by little, he thus discards that which does not indicate a real and permanent tendency in the currents of his mental life. When such constatations are repeated in a controlled way, over and over again, the observer will perceive that certain elements are permanent, and consequently cannot be subjected to the principle of exclusion with true objectivity: he will then find himself not far from the threshold of the real 'I'.

We can see that such a method asks neither for an ideal nor for faith. It nevertheless has its danger: it requires total impartiality in the observations and conclusions to be drawn from it.
This is where the input of a sincere group is INVALUABLE and even CRUCIAL. Because of the problem of "sleeping emotional centers" having their energy usurped by the intellect, it is almost impossible to be impartial without the mirror of the group.

If such impartiality is not observed from the start, the man risks falling deeper into Illusion.

His situation will then be worse than it was before.

As a result of these exercises, a certain modification is produced in the structure of his Personality, so that the ties between the centres, of which we have spoken in chapter VII, atrophy and eventually fall. If, at that moment, the magnetic centre is not strong enough to establish its authority directly over the centres, the man will become amoral, and dangerous to himself, as well as to others.
Now, let's look at the second way, the way of the individual whose center of gravity emotional. Mouravieff notes at the beginning that the person who follows this method will be encouraged by sparks from the consciousness of the real' I' which will accompany him all along the path.

The second method is positive. It can only apply to man 2, the centre of gravity of whose mental life is found in the heart. This man may have an ideal and try to reach it. For this he will attempt to reassemble those elements of his Personality where the seeds of his ideal are scattered. This method is the reverse of the preceding since it tends not to the exclusion of unstable elements but to a synthesis, an affirmation. If such a man is called hot, it is because he has given free rein to his positive emotions: exactly the opposite of the cold method of critical analysis and exclusion.
Those of you familiar with alchemical terminology might note that this could very well be the "wet way vs the dry way." The "wet way" would be the cold method of critical analysis, the "digestion" and "putrefaction" and the "dry way" would be the method of reassembling via heat and calcination. The dry way is said to be "faster," but less certain and Mouravieff notes this also:

This is not without danger, but the danger is of a different nature. It comes from an initial error in the choice of an ideal, or rather from the attitude when the choice is made. The fact that this ideal has been approved by the master changes nothing. It is a question of lack of sincerity towards oneself. The profound divergence between admitted and unadmitted aims can cause an interior rupture which, when strongly emphasized, can go so far that it provokes division in the Personality.
In other words, the terminus a quo amounts to lying to the self and what we have already discussed above: the Integral lie. This is the problem of someone trying to work alone, through pride or lack of self-esteem, or having so much self-importance that they cannot open up and share the mental processes they are going through for feedback. Again the work of a group is CRUCIAL. That's one of the reasons that the work of QFG requires the giving up of all "sacred cows." And we have set the example by giving up any "belief" that the C's are anything other than an interesting phenomenon that must be researched and analyzed before anything is considered even possible, much less probable.

A rapid analysis of these two methods of work reveals the role of impartiality - that form of objectivity of which man is capable - and later of sincerity.

Not to make conscious use of these two qualities, especially towards ourselves, is the source of many errors in our lives which we will not know how to mend later on.

There is within us a dominant aptitude either for impartial judgement or for sincerity.
Here Mouravieff has suggested that impartiality might belong to the intellectual type, and sincerity toward the goal - even if unaware of lying to the self - belongs to the emotional type. You can be sincere as all get out and still go down in flames. Old saying comes in here: The road to Hell is paved with good intentions.

This aptitude corresponds to our type, and determines in principle what method we should choose to follow.

We must not forget, however, that our natures are mixtures as much from the fact of our birth as from our education and upbringing. This means that, while applying the method which best suits our dominant aptitude, we must not lose sight of the other method; both have their roles to play in our efforts towards evolution, but in different proportions for different people.
Exactly so. It is not so simple, and in some cases, cold critical analysis is important, and in other cases, keeping the devotion to the goal in mind is most important.

But in either case, objectivity is the key.

The activity of QFS, the working group, is pretty much as described above, with a kick. This process is familiar to its members and quite a number of them have been "in the crucible." As many more have felt the heat and run screaming in terror...

But now, let's go back to something from the beginning of this post.

The problem of achieving objectivity - which is CRUCIAL - is that the energy of the negative emotions are utilized to protect the self against TRUTH. Note Mouravieff's comment about "negative emotions, for which the keyboard is very large, ranging from melancholy to hate."

Those whose center of gravity is the emotional center, and that emotional center is very poorly developed, are generally seeking only love and acceptance. Unfortunately, they identify emotionally with their mechanical programs so deeply that it is almost impossible to tease them apart. They can even be quite intellectual. The key to this kind of intellectualism is that it is always obscure and convoluted and very poorly communicated. The word "density" is very low. Lots of words, little meaning. All of the words that such a person speaks are designed to hide the real self and can even serve to hide the self from the self since this is the kind of dialogue that goes on in their head. It exemplifies the varied "keyboard" of emotional "buttons."

A person whose emotional center is so buried and twisted is living in terror as I noted above in the discussion of the "right man." Remember that such a person MUST be right at all costs because, deep inside, they are struggling with horror at their own helplessness. Their rightness is a dam that holds back their worst fears: that they are lost and alone and that there really is no god because how could there be a god who loves them if they have to suffer so much? Their inability to feel truly loved and accepted deep within is, in effect, like being stranded in a nightmare from which they cannot wake up.

This helplessness, this fear of being alone, is very possibly based on fear of failure. Such a person is terrified of not being "good enough" to love.

As a consequence, such an individual may work very hard to succeed at something - or several things - as compensation. They work very hard to know a lot about a number of things, generally material things so that they can give evidence of their competence in a material way to the outside world.

When you listen to such a person talk, they nearly always come across as knowing lots of things and will incessantly talk AT another person, divulging all of the things they know about any given subject, their experiences, and so on and so forth. There's that "word density" problem again. Lots of talk, little substance.

Such an individual finds it almost impossible to admit that they are ever mistaken about anything, and even if of a very gentle disposition, can give the impression of a repellant self-righteousness. They are hypersensitive to any kind of criticism at all, and quite often, interpret simple interest in their activities as "critical."

What then happens is that such a person - feeling that they must compensate for some criticism with "rightness," will utilize the emotional energy to create conditions where they can prove that they are not only good enough, but better than others. The "dreaming" energy of the emotional center combined with a clever intellect, can produce all kinds of strange experiences that border on literal schizophrenia.

This is one of the reasons that QFG does not have much tolerance for imaginative weirdness and "seeing things" that are not objective. There is no doubt that such things happen, but when they do, they are almost invariably tricks and traps into STS illusions. The evidence that this is so is that they are not "objectively" available to all viewers. And so, when something operates on your subjective perception, it is very possibly real AND a trap. "Seeing the unseen" has nothing to do with seeing lizards or ghosts or any such subjective psychic phenomena.

A saying I heard years ago: "Neurotics build castles in the air; psychotics live in them." Added later: "4 D STS collects the rent."

Remember this: A and B influences can also be viewed as "creative" or "entropic," and certainly there can be "A" influences that may appear to be very "spiritual" or "esoteric". Remember what Mouravieff tells us about those who make the mistake of believing such delusions, quoted above, but worth repeating:

"This second figure, with black magnetic centres, represents the situation where man deludes himself and, believing he is absorbing 'B' influences and making the necessary selection all the while, he in fact absorbs 'A' influences, those of the black arrows that are in some way parallel to the white arrows of the 'B' influences. This will put him into contact with people who possess magnetic centres of the same nature: who are themselves duped or who dupe others, and who have no direct or indirect link with the esoteric Centre. "
Our only defense is purity of the magnetic center achieved via objectivity.

And so, we come back now to Robbie Burns who described a simple country girl all decked out in her fancy bonnet, her mechanical programs, seething with lice.

O wad some Pow'r the giftie gie us
To see oursels as others see us
It wad frae monie a blunder free us
An' foolish notion
What airs in dress an' gait wad lea'e us
An' ev'n Devotion.

The gift of being able to see ourselves as others see us would save us from many errors and foolish thoughts and ridiculous behavior , and we would most certainly cease being devoted to those things that shore up and support our illusions about ourselves.
 
What Rense.com is not talking about

EsoQuest said:
SCO said:
Ruth said:
If I bring out the 'worst' in people, let me just say that the 'worst' is pretty unpleasant.
I don't understand what this means or how this has anything to do with anything.
I think Ruth's statement is an inverted perception. If you hold a mirror to it it becomes: "I think people bring out the 'worst' in me...". And perhaps this is the crux of the matter. If so, it's a valuable opportunity to understand that 'worst', and why it is so.

If you look at the patterns of threads where you get into heated debate, Ruth, it is you who throws the first stone. Then you react as if you didn't. Disagreement is good, but disagreeing with an attitude that seems to hold a deliberate intent to provoke, and then acting the innocent victim is a sign of acute denial.

It's like walking down the street slapping people and then complaining when people defend themselves. I do not think the members of this forum are willing to practice "turn the other cheek" philosophies for your convenience, and I don't think you really want them to do so. You seem to be provoking to get a reflection of yourself that you cannot see on your own. It's an effective and drastic tactic, but it's also thoughtless. And I am not speculating. This pattern has been repeated over and over.

The point is that you are chronically angry, and need to create reasons to justify it, otherwise you will have to face the infestation point blank without any excuses. That takes courage, and behind most chronic anger fear also lurks. I think that fear is the key that can resolve this.

Of course sincerity cannot be taught, just applied. And the energy of that anger needs to be diverted into brutal self-honesty without self-condemnation. And not condemning yourself also requires courage. You certainly have your work cut out for you Ruth. Hey, react all you want. At SOME point it WILL hit the fan because something in you wants to be free of the burden. It's just a matter of time until it gains enough strength to provide the lesson that will change things.

As far as whose interests anyone has at heart, I just think most on this forum have the interests of truth at heart, and although there is no guarantee that reflections provided are always accurate, there is a reason to examine them: we can save ourselves a lot of trouble, and greatly soften that lesson clincher we are bound to encounter by being honest with ourselves sooner rather than later.

As you said, those lizzies are quite clever, and most of us have to be outsmarted several times before we get the hang of things.
Ruth, I think you initiate arguments because you are basically trying to control things. I have found that this is due to the fact that we all live in a male dominated society and men often cut off their feelings by dominating others and one result of this dominance is that the female is inhibited from speaking on behalf of her feelings against this dominant force. But the thing is, when you initiate arguments fror control you are simply carrying this male dominant energy that you might experience during your interactions with the outside world and you are simply transmitting it, unconsciously, into many of your personal interactions including this forum. What I mean is that your arguing may be your refusal to feel your own emotions, since this is often seen as a weakness in our male dominated society, and your arguing may simply be a way of aggressively generating feelings in others so as not to feel these feelings within yourself. These control programs is how our society blocks out its own emotions and it is no less true with the individual, What is true macroscopically in the society is also reflected microscopically within the individual. I would advise you to get in touch with your feelings and feel them and don't judge them. When you speak constructively on behalf of your feelings then this energy can be directed at those things that will help to undermine these control programs which are destroying our society. Perhaps you can direct your energy more into this? But this energy must come from who you really are, your real feelings, and not from your arguing so as to control the situation. Generally speaking the men of the world have ruined this world from their need to control and the only hope of the world, I think, is from the woman speaking out her real feelings and then acting on them. But when you initiate arguments for its own sake then you are doing just what society wants you to do because this arguing cuts you off from your real feelings and this lack of feeling is then used to dominate others. Look within yourself for these control programs. You must be brutally honest with youself as EsoQuest stated. Society is deathly afraid that you will constructively speak out on behalf of your real feelings which might undermine their 'control and dominate' programs which are messing up this planet. But you must see these programs within yourself and you must learn what triggers them. I strongly advise you to carefully study the above posts, quiet your mind, and observe your inner reactions without judgement.
 
What Rense.com is not talking about

Very powerful energy in that last post Laura. It's a challenge and invitation to everyone. If those reading it feel its intensity (as I have) I hope they welcome it, because it is a blessing. It's a knowledge promoting inner reorganization of self, and is more than an analysis. It is a resonating blue print of that reorganization.

It should be read with the mind, but also with the heart and even at a gut level awareness, because it represents a truth that affects all three centers, and when honestly allowed to vibrate the reader it can have profound results. Again, the more it is welcomed, the swifter one will find themselves in a place of greater clarity and presence, osit.
 
What Rense.com is not talking about

Yes, Laura's latest post in this thread is powerfull indeed. Reading it, digesting it is like looking in the mirror - at least for me. Many times I've read powerful writings in other places than this forum, but in many cases that didn't bring significant results. Maybe because those texts were mere 'mystical' or 'technological' ramblings, overflowing with many 'outlandish' concepts and written from a point of view on 'righteous man', a teacher who is not a teacher at all, but a eloquent impostor or a being trapped half way to real wisdom. Laura produces RESULTS, and for that I'm most thankful.
 
What Rense.com is not talking about

No doubt about that, it's powerful energy. I don't want to go too far off topic, but for me it "clicked" when she was talking about the person whose emotional center is dominant. I hadn't happened on much on said subject before, but now I see how that really describes me.

And apparently, for people in this group it's very important to avoid self-lies at any cost. Funny, because I had caught on that "not lying to oneself" thing even before I found the cassiopaea website, and it seems to me that the more you work at it, the more you see that there is to work on still...

Some self-lies are rather easy to "catch" - you just question them from one angle and the other, and prod, and think about it, and eventually you catch them - but then there's others, much harder to catch because they're more subtle, or hidden out of sight, or very good at rationalizing their own existence.

So lemme guess... continuous knowledge input, right?

Seems like I've got my work cut out for me... ;)
 

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