WINGTV Opinion poll; Day 3 - on Wingtv
LFOD said:
If all it takes to skew a poll is proxies then couldnt the WingTV poll have been skewed by cointelpro agents and "clappers" ? More to the point, why did they not tell us how many people voted and who they voted for? Are we expected to swallow it just because they tell us they are honest patriots? People said my poll was not scientific.. Is the WingTV poll scientific? Where are the numbers? Why would they, by default, keep such an important piece of the puzzle, completely hidden! You guys did a great job of picking my poll to pieces, now where was all of that effort when WingTV did there poll? Why did nobody ask the hard questions when WingTV did it? Am I to believe that you people are completely taken in by anybody who claims to be honest? Or is it just because they are Anti-Alex jones that you feel you can trust them? There is a lot of hypocricy in this forum.
You are being unfairly insulting in your last comment. As it happens, Victor explains his polling method quite clearly in their last couple of shows. In the last one, he even gave the numbers.
But more than that, as I have already said, you really need to get some serious knowledge under your belt - and so do a lot of other people - and FAST. We do NOT have time to waste on mistakes. The fact is, COINTELPRO HAS taken over the 911 truth movement and I've found enough evidence of it, as laid out in my blog posts listed above, for anyone with two firing neurons to figure it out if they will take the time to read them. As is often said, an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. Best to learn first, eliminate as many possibilities for error as possible, and then brainstorm with others who have the same goals to figure out the RIGHT solution, the right approach, and maybe - if the agents can be eliminated and the sincere people can pull together - in the short time remaining, something significant can be done.
But it takes real fortitude to take the bitter medicine of realizing that you have been misled and duped. Been there, done that. I KNOW what I'm talking about here.
So, again, if you are sincerely interested in doing something to restore the Republic and "save the world," so to speak, you will take this little bit of advice I'm offering you here.
As I wrote in one of the above blog posts:
You know the old rule: The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. Well, let's paraphrase that: "The only thing necessary for the takeover of the 911 Truth Movement by Fascist agents of CoIntelPro is for the members of that movement to NOT expose such agents when and if they spot them, and for the movement as a whole to utilize the most careful hygiene in keeping itself clean of pathological elements."
Take that to the bank.
More:
They infiltrate, find weak individuals to target, begin the process of moral degeneration, etc. That is to say, just because a group operates under the banner of "communism" or "socialism" or "democracy" or "conservatism" or "republicanism", [or 911 Truth] doesn't mean that, in practice, their functions are anything close to the original ideology. As we can see in the present day, the republican party (and the democrats as well, they are just pretending to be different) have been taken over by what amounts to Nazis. These Nazis use the ideology of the political parties to motivate large masses of people who still believe that the rulership of the party is aligned with the original ideology.
The same is being done with alternative news and the 911 truth movement. It is being infiltrated and turned around because it is way too dangerous to the Nazis that have taken over the U.S. political scene under the guise of being republicans or democrats or neo-conservatives, or whatever names they have created to bamboozle the public.
That is why those people decrying the "name calling" in the 911 Truth Movement are either agents themselves or woefully naive and will never survive the nazification/ponerization of the movement. The so-called "commonsense" that they subscribe to is NO DEFENSE against psychological deviants! But such "commonsensical" sayings and motifs will be brought up and flung around with great abandon by agents seeking to put the more critical members of the public back to sleep.
Such claims as these types make, that weeding out the cointelpro factors amounts to "infighting" and "backstabbing" and "petty differences" and so on, amount to nothing more that simplistic and doctrinaire concepts that do not take into account the complexity of human nature and most especially the existence of deviant psychopathologies. In short,
it just isn't realistic based on a reasonable observation of how things work in the real world, historically speaking.
So, are they "useful idiots" or conscious agents?
We don't know. What we can know is that taking their simplistic and doctrinaire paramoralisms as truth has been done again and again in the past whenever a popular movement arose to fight totalitarianism, and each time, such movements failed because of the deviant agents working as Fifth Column, Trojan Horses.
Again, take that to the bank.
Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.