Jeff Rense EXPOSED!!

Superman Returns: WING TV repels Pathological Pirates AKA Rense & Co

No need to apologize, Fifth Way. It's out there and it's good to question everything.

Happy Anniversary to Ark & Laura!!!!!!!!!!!

Lisa..:-)
 
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Thanks for the kind words. I got up yesterday and decided that there were many ideas that had been clarified in this discussion here that needed to be put together. I know it's a long one (when do I ever write anything short????!!) but I think it's worth reading.

I added some things today to it, at the end, some more stuff about the movie. I think we'll do a podcast about V for Vendetta... It really was interesting to me for a lot of reasons - even including the dominoes scene and the fact that Thomas Percy (distant relation of mine) was involved in the Gunpowder Plot.

And thanks for the Anniversary Greeting... yes, ten years ago on July 5th, a physicist who was, at that moment, in his office in Florence, wrote to a housewife in Florida who had a strange hobby...
 
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************Useful Idiot Lesson*************



Sallie says: First let me say, no one has done more to expose and fight the NWO than Alex Jones and Paul Watson. Most of the information they get is from MSM and they choke them with their own information. Ditto for Jeff Rense.

Lisa: (choking on my own saliva..)

They only reason Lisa and Victor are not being censored is because they are agent provocateurs and stoolies for the Bush administration and are paid to do what they do. They bash Bush, but that's a decoy for their real motivation and operation.

Lisa: oooh yeah, that must be it. Good thinkin', Sherlock.

Their prime objective is to demonize and vilify the truth tellers, which they have done to several media people I personally know; and promote others who are absolute frauds with a few exceptions.

Lisa: I see she's put a ton of critical thought into this. Her emails are like a christmas fruitcake that gets passed around from relative to relative, house to house, year after year, which nobody eats.

They infiltrated and worked for Mike Ruppert and almost destroyed him. Mike fired them.

Lisa: Now this is a good one. We infiltrated and WORKED for Ruppert...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!! Does Ruppert know this????


Sallie: Once you get inside a business or media outlet you can control it. The CIA does it all the time i.e ADL, Southern Poverty Law, major media, and the FBI in the KKK. The latest from Mike. Looks like someone wants to shut the the truth down.

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Sallie: They take the lefty approach, mix a little truth with a lot of lies to suck you into believing them, which is typical of disinformation specialists. They attacked me after I supported one of my alternative media friends.

Lisa: Uhh no...Actually Sallie sent me a nasty series of emails defending TOM FLOCCO and I think I asked her if she was smoking her sweatsocks or something to that effect...Wacko city...


Sallie: They tried to suck John Kaminski into agreeing with them about this person while he was on their show, but he stepped up to the plate and supported a fellow journalist, which made him a hero in my eyes.

Lisa: It doesn't take much apparently...

Sallie: There are ethics in the news biz and they don't criticize each other, especially publicly. "One man's fact is another man's fiction." It up to the discernment of the reader as to their own interpretation and truth.

Lisa: So, truth has "interpretations...?" No dearie, there is only ONE truth. The rest is a LIE.

Sallie says: When you hear someone constantly criticizing others, then you know the problem lies with the person who is making up the stories.

Lisa: Sallie didn't even make it through the first semester of Useful Idiot Programming 101.

Sallie says: Granted there are Charlatans out there, but not everyone is lying.

Lisa: No, not everyone. Almost everyone.

Sallie says: The biggest purveyors of lies is the MSM monopolized media.

Lisa: And useless idiots like Sallie who couldn't tell a truth if it bit her on the face.

Sallie wants everybody to know: "I had the goods on Lisa from emails she sent me full of slander, defamation and libel . When I warned her she backed off. There is a real info war and they are the biggest contributors."

Lisa: Hmmm... all these people who have the goods on me, I wish they'd let me have some of the goods. I want some goods too!! Everybody's got the goods on me but me.It's just not fair...tragic, really.

Sallie: If they worked for a real radio station, they would have been off the air a long time ago, and the station sued. They probably have been sued, but bailed out by the powers that be. I'm telling you these people are dangerous and have hurt many people.


Lisa: So sayeth the magic 8-ball.
 
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Lisa said:
Hmmm... all these people who have the goods on me, I wish they'd let me have some of the goods. I want some goods too!! Everybody's got the goods on me but me.It's just not fair...tragic, really.
:lol: thanks for the chuckle - all hail the magic 8 ball.
 
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Lisa said:
Sallie 8 Ball sez:When you hear someone constantly criticizing others, then you know the problem lies with the person who is making up the stories.
This is another of the psychopathic programs that have been inculcated into people - and some are more susceptible than others. From a couple of our psychopathy pages:
More often than not, the typical psychopath will seem particularly agreeable and make a distinctly positive impression when he is first encountered. Alert and friendly in his attitude, he is easy to talk with and seems to have a good many genuine interests. There is nothing at all odd or queer about him, and in every respect he tends to embody the concept of a well-adjusted, happy person. Nor does he, on the other hand, seem to be artificially exerting himself like one who is covering up or who wants to sell you a bill of goods. He would seldom be confused with the professional backslapper or someone who is trying to ingratiate himself for a concealed purpose. Signs of affectation or excessive affability are not characteristic. He looks like the real thing.

Very often indications of good sense and sound reasoning will emerge and one is likely to feel soon after meeting him that this normal and pleasant person is also one with high abilities. Psychometric tests also very frequently show him of superior intelligence. More than the average person, he is likely to seem free from social or emotional impediments, from the minor distortions, peculiarities, and awkwardnesses so common even among the successful. Such superficial characteristics are not universal in this group but they are very common. ...

Not only is the psychopath rational and his thinking free of delusions, but he also appears to react with normal emotions. His ambitions are discussed with what appears to be healthy enthusiasm. His convictions impress even the skeptical observer as firm and binding. He seems to respond with adequate feelings to another's interest in him and, as he discusses his wife, his children, or his parents, he is likely to be judged a man of warm human responses, capable of full devotion and loyalty.

There are usually no symptoms to suggest a psychoneurosis in the clinical sense. In fact, the psychopath is nearly always free from minor reactions popularly regarded as "neurotic" or as constituting "nervousness." Not only is the psychopath rational and his thinking free of delusions, but he also appears to react with normal emotions. His ambitions are discussed with what appears to be healthy enthusiasm. His convictions impress even the skeptical observer as firm and binding. He seems to respond with adequate feelings to another's interest in him and, as he discusses his wife, his children, or his parents, he is likely to be judged a man of warm human responses, capable of full devotion and loyalty.

There are usually no symptoms to suggest a psychoneurosis in the clinical sense. In fact, the psychopath is nearly always free from minor reactions popularly regarded as "neurotic" or as constituting "nervousness." The chief criteria whereby such diagnoses as hysteria, obsessive-compulsive disorder, anxiety state, or "neurasthenia" might be made do not apply to him. It is highly typical for him not only to escape the abnormal anxiety and tension fundamentally characteristic of this whole diagnostic group but also to show a relative immunity from such anxiety and worry as might be judged normal or appropriate in disturbing situations. Regularly we find in him extraordinary poise rather than jitteriness or worry, a smooth sense of physical well-being instead of uneasy preoccupation with bodily functions. Even under concrete circumstances that would for the ordinary person cause embarrassment, confusion, acute insecurity, or visible agitation, his relative serenity is likely to be noteworthy. ...

Though the psychopath is likely to give an early impression of being a thoroughly reliable person, it will soon be found that on many occasions he shows no sense of responsibility whatsoever. No matter how binding the obligation, how urgent the circumstances, or how important the matter, this holds true. Furthermore, the question of whether or not he is to be confronted with his failure or his disloyalty and called to account for it appears to have little effect on his attitude.

If such failures occurred uniformly and immediately, others would soon learn not to rely upon psychopaths or to be surprised at their conduct. It is, however, characteristic for them during some periods to show up regularly at work, to meet their financial obligations, to ignore an opportunity to steal. They may apply their excellent abilities in business or in study for a week, for months, or even for a year or more and thereby gain potential security, win a scholarship, be acclaimed top salesman or elected president of a social club or perhaps of a school honor society. Not all checks given by psychopaths bounce; not all promises are uniformly ignored. They do not necessarily land in jail every day (or every month) or seek to cheat someone else during every transaction. If so, it would be much simpler to deal with them. ....

Furthermore, it cannot be predicted how long effective and socially acceptable conduct will prevail or precisely when (or in what manner) dishonest, outlandish, or disastrously irresponsible acts or failures to act will occur. These seem to have little or no relation to objective stress, to cyclic periods, or to major alterations of mood or outlook. ....

The psychopath's unreliability and his disregard for obligations and for consequences are manifested in both trivial and serious matters, are masked by demonstrations of conforming behavior, and cannot be accounted for by ordinary motives or incentives. Although it can be confidently predicted that his failures and disloyalties will continue, it is impossible to time them and to take satisfactory precautions against their effect. Here, it might be said, is not even a consistency in inconsistency but an inconsistency in inconsistency.

The psychopath shows a remarkable disregard for truth and is to be trusted no more in his accounts of the past than in his promises for the future or his statement of present intentions. He gives the impression that he is incapable of ever attaining realistic comprehension of an attitude in other people which causes them to value truth and cherish truthfulness in themselves.

Typically he is at ease and unpretentious in making a serious promise or in (falsely) exculpating himself from accusations, whether grave or trivial. His simplest statement in such matters carries special powers of conviction. Overemphasis, obvious glibness, and other traditional signs of the clever liar do not usually show in his words or in his manner. Whether there is reasonable chance for him to get away with the fraud or whether certain and easily foreseen detection is at hand, he is apparently unperturbed and does the same impressive job. Candor and trustworthiness seem implicit in him at such times. During the most solemn perjuries he has no difficulty at all in looking anyone tranquilly in the eyes. Although he will lie about any matter, under any circumstances, and often for no good reason, he may, on the contrary, sometimes own up to his errors (usually when detection is certain) and appear to be facing the consequences with singular honesty, fortitude, and manliness.

It is indeed difficult to express how thoroughly straightforward some typical psychopaths can appear. They are disarming not only to those unfamiliar with such patients but often to people who know well from experience their convincing outer aspect of honesty. ...

After being caught in shameful and gross falsehoods, after repeatedly violating his most earnest pledges, he finds it easy, when another occasion arises, to speak of his word of honor, his honor as a gentleman, and he shows surprise and vexation when commitments on such a basis do not immediately settle the issue.

The conception of living up to his word seems, in fact, to be regarded as little more than a phrase sometimes useful to avoid unpleasantness or to gain other ends.
And as for Sallie...

...most women transfer what they want to believe onto the psychopath, to the extent that he is painted in an unrealistic light, so psychopaths can also "play with your mind" in this regard. Most victims of the psychopath only see what they want to see, initially. That is why Field says, "Naivete is the great enemy."

. .Histrionic...women are particularly attracted and vulnerable to psychopathic males. The hysteric-personality-disordered female is likely to be enamored of the psychopath...She is able...to reciprocate in this projective-introjective cycle by predominately idealizing the psychopathic character. Her need for attachment and dependency complements his desire for detachment and autonomy; she perceives others as all-giving and benevolent, and he perceives others as all-taking and malevolent.

The hysterical woman is immune to developing a healthy suspicion when details or circumstances don't fit (also relating to the illogicity of his thoughts/behavior) or do not corroborate the psychopath's oral version of his history. [From "The Psychopathic Mind" -- Origins, Dynamics, and Treatment J. Reil Meloy]

For many women, the attachment to a psychopath goes beyond mere Freudian analysis -- many simply deny the truth, blindly trusting and ignoring reality. Some, even when presented with the cold hard facts, will still admit that they cannot stop loving their psychopathic partner, even after they've been discarded by him. This problem is both a psychosexual one (women with personality disorders themselves who become obsessed with psychopaths), or women who just won't admit to the truth or are ignorant about the situation. It can even be a combination of all factors.

Regardless, the psychopath knows whom to "choose."

Psychopaths pick on everyone, whether rich or poor, smart or not so bright. Although it does seem that the mentally ill are more susceptible: the aforementioned histrionics, etc., as well as victims with borderline personality disorder.

According to the author of The Psychopathic Mind (Meloy), when needing to manipulate a female, the psychopath often targets women who are what is often called the "dumb blonde" type, the kind of woman who exudes naivete, often unconscious of her own sexuality, vapid innocence, often not too bright -- their personalities usually border on the Pollyanish, and they always see a silver lining in every cloud. Not that there is anything essentially wrong with innocence or optimism, but when dealing with a psychopath, that can prove a bad combination. Psychopaths seem to be attracted to this type of woman in particular. She is nurturing and all-giving, while he is closed-off and retentive.

They have "an uncanny ability to spot and use 'nurturant' women -- that is, those who have a powerful need to help or mother others." [Hare, 149].

Also, what I believe makes them most dangerous, is that they can be quite charming and persuasive, and "they have remarkably good insight into the needs and weaknesses of other people" as recounted in the text, Psychology In Action: "Even when they are indifferent to the rights of their associates, they are often able to inspire feelings of trust and confidence." This is best exemplified by a psychopath who professes that "everything is fine" while lying point-blank to your face with seeming honesty and candor, and then, as soon as you turn away for a second, he will stab you in the back.
Well, that describes Sallie...

But what about the victims of the psychopath? How should they REALLY deal with their attackers?

Psychopathy causes tremendous damage in our society, and affects all levels of our lives. It causes illnesses and disorders such as PTSD (post traumatic stress disorder). Money is also lost by innocent victims to psychopaths, and these social predators also do much economic damage to our society.

While few psychopaths commit violent crimes, the callousness of the average psychopath usually ranges through subtle, but still devastating misdeeds:

"Parasitically bleeding other people of their possessions, savings, and dignity; aggressively doing and taking what they want; shamefully neglecting the physical and emotional welfare of their families; engaging in an unending series of casual, impersonal, and trivial sexual relationships; and so forth." [Hare, 45].

In some cases, our society allows psychopathy because we do not really fight back against cheating and lying behaviours..

In sum, the experience of dealing with a psychopath can be very troubling for most people, not to mention, when he is through with you, you can be sure that you will be vilified falsely, no doubt about it. I recently asked Field about what one can do when faced with the lies of a psychopath (Field refers to them as sociopaths) and the apparent absence of justice when it comes to their behaviour - - Field's response was:

"The main lesson I have learnt is that when dealing with a sociopath, the normal rules of etiquette do not apply. You are dealing with someone who has no empathy, no conscience, no remorse, and no guilt...It is a completely different mindset. Words like 'predator' and 'evil' are often used."

If you try to deal with psychopaths in an ethical manner, you will be in for a shock. Dr. William Higgins claims that you "can't negotiate or bargain with psychopaths."

Psychopaths will not only deny the past and trivialize it, but will avoid answering your questions directly, and even if they seem to answer them -- you can be sure that it's not the answer you were looking for. It has been said that even when they do give you a straight answer, the real issue will never be addressed by them, although they may even claim to be honourable when it suits them. But don't be fooled, for this is where the psychopath wants his victim -- he wants to shame you while at the same time fitting you into his plans; this is because "psychopaths show a stunning lack of concern for the devastating effects their actions have on others. Often they are completely forthright about the matter, calmly stating that they no have no sense of guilt, are not sorry for the pain and destruction they have caused, and that there is no reason for them to be concerned." [Hare, 41].
So, it's pretty normal in our society of damaged human beings for psychopaths to prey on people who have been conditioned to be prey.

So that's the job in front of us: to expose this problem.
 
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I hate to bug everybody, but a 2nd FAKE WING TV page has been created in less than a week.
Apparently these psychos have nothing better to do than to fixate on me every single day and night.

The faked page is at:
MySpace URL:
http://www.myspace.com/wingtvnarcs

Sorry to hassle this forum with this (again), but I figured some of you might be getting contacted by the creepazoids (again) to join this bogus page.
Please be advised I am trying to take care of this situation (again).

Lisa
 
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More Altered Photos

Click on the link I have posted beneath the altered photo, which will take you to the MySpace profile of this aspiring young artist, and note how Jack Blood just left him a complimentary comment. Also, clicking on the altered photo of Lisa in the comments section will take you to the newly created fake WING TV profile.
 
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Lisa said:
I hate to bug everybody, but a 2nd FAKE WING TV page has been created in less than a week.
Apparently these psychos have nothing better to do than to fixate on me every single day and night.

The faked page is at:
MySpace URL:
http://www.myspace.com/wingtvnarcs

Sorry to hassle this forum with this (again), but I figured some of you might be getting contacted by the creepazoids (again) to join this bogus page.
Please be advised I am trying to take care of this situation (again).

Lisa
I used the link to check it out...and once again it is disgusting and libelous. However, this time the photo they used should make it plain to all your friends that it's a fake...while also making it plain to the psychopaths that there's a new 'party' for them to attend.

Here's a copy of the complaint I sent to MySpace at...

http://collect.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=misc.contactInput&primarySubject=2&secondarySubject=13

...which is the email address that responded to me the quickest last time.

Cyberstalkers have attacked WingTV again!

Once again WingTV's identity has been stolen, in yet another case of cyberbullying, which can be found at:
http://www.myspace.com/wingtvnarcs

I look forward to seeing MySpace fulfill its responsibility to honest users by taking this travesty down at once.

It is profane!

It is libelous to the real owner of the WingTV identity!

Thank you for your prompt attention to this matter.
I used some specific words in this complaint. Based on the responses I received from MySpace the last time I complained I think these words help to get their attention.
Specifically--
"cyberbullying"
"cyberstalking"
"identity theft"
" MySpace's responsibility"

Hope it helps Lisa. Keep us updated.
 
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Are these guys for real? My goodness. That is so childish! To do that again?
I'm reading the 'Psychopath' articles on the Cassiopaea.org sitemap, and real life examples like these idiots trying to defame Lisa are popping out of the woodwork!
BTW, these idiots might just be smokescreen, or a distraction to misdirect us while their masters/controllers try to plot something bigger.
Lisa, keep your guards and awareness up!
 
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They're very real. And the losers behind them are also very real.
they have just registered a new domain for another website which apparently will be used as some kind of weapon against me, also.
Lots to look forward to.

Lisa
 
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man oh man. Lisa, at least you're getting constant confirmation that you 'must be getting something right', otherwise you wouldn't have these bozos on your case all the time.

It's like an 'am I getting close to a dangerous truth?' barometer. Publish a story. See if anyone chucks a brick through your window. If they did, then it must be a good story. hmm... :(

keep it up Lisa. as they keep confirming - you must be getting something right. Plus as wileycoyote says, they're providing lots of educational real-life examples of psychopathy, for more and more people to learn from.

A nice rabble-rousing English phrase for you: "don't let the b*st*rds grind you down".
 
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Jack Blood Forum Lies and Hypocrisy

I just checked out the Jack Blood forum for the first time in a few days, and I found something there that's very, very interesting. Even though it's stated that anything related to WING TV will be "quickly erased," that's not what's actually happening. Check out the following thread which states this new "policy."

"New policy (as agreed by members), anything relating to these buffoons will quickly be erased."

Wing TV

Then, check out this thread where MOST of what's discussed relates to WING TV, complete with the usual altered photos.

Frank Whalen

It just goes to show that this "Krisboro" character and minion of Jack Blood, who is the administrator of this forum, is nothing else but a total liar, in addition to being an abject coward for not allowing me to post there.

Psychopaths, Liars, Cowards, and Fools.

Yes, indeed, it's a fitting description.
 
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Some thoughts: It does seem strange that tactics of these disruptors aren't changed, that is until you realise that there is no other tactic. They have no facts to back up their claims, and so they will always use manipulative techniques to try and prey on peoples vunerabilities, in order to get what they want (or what the controllers want). Its the best and worst thing about them. The good thing is that its something that can be spotted, because its basically the same thing over and over, just different levels of "skill" or "experience". I'm not saying its easy to learn how to spot them, but it does mean that they do have a very unfortunate (for them) weakness - the more you learn about them, the less of them can have an effect (knowledge protects? :)). They try to prey on our vunerabilities, maybe they forget or simply don't realise that they have them too.
 
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Um, orchid, i think you're in the wrong section. As you can see, if you read the previous 34 pages, there is an ongoing constructive discussion about WingTV and the disinformation being spread about it and Lisa Guliani. If you have nothing constructive to contribute here, you can always start a topic under the "What's on your mind" section.

But, more to the issue here: What's your point? What message are you trying to convey?

Please elaborate in a constructive manner.
 
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wilecoyote said:
Um, orchid, i think you're in the wrong section. As you can see, if you read the previous 34 pages, there is an ongoing constructive discussion about WingTV and the disinformation being spread about it and Lisa Guliani. If you have nothing constructive to contribute here, you can always start a topic under the "What's on your mind" section.

But, more to the issue here: What's your point? What message are you trying to convey?

Please elaborate in a constructive manner.
Don't worry wiley. I don't think there was a point. That's why orchid's post was deleted. This was before I saw your reply. For the rest of the readers, it was noise. A troll derailing a thread. SOP :rolleyes:
 
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