Jeff Rense EXPOSED!!

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Hi Lisa and group:

I just wanted to let you know that I also sent an e-mail to MySpace "customer-service" and "privacy" addresses to let them know about this disgusting issue.

For the "record", here is the copy of the e-mail I sent.

Hello:

This is an e-mail to inform the staff at "MySpace" that some members of your site that go by the aliases "Smokeydogg", and "MYPETGOAT" have for the second time in less than a week created a FALSE MySpace page that FALSLEY characterizes Lisa Guliani of WING-TV. This FALSE page can be found at:



I ask you, (staff at MYSPACE) to take this matter seriously as it is a grave matter of cyber-bulling, identity-theft, slander, defamation of Lisa Guliani by these said individuals that all results back to your site (MySpace.com)

And please try and keep this occurrence from happening again, as it is truly a disgusting situation and makes one really wonder about the seriousness of MySpace regarding legal issues of privacy, identity-theft, and cyber-bulling of their members.

Again, this is a grave matter that must be faced with full force. Who knows who is going to be the next victim in this vile attack against one's identity the way Lisa Guliani of WING-TV has been.

Thank you
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Again, just wanted to say hang in there Lisa. As sleepyvinny said you must be doing something 'right' to be attracting all this unwanted attention. Keep on going, we are with you!!

And Laura, just wanted to say that I really enjoyed your recent article V for Vendetta and I really recommend it for everyone. *stands up and claps*

Thanks
 
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Thanks very much, Nina.
Thing is, even if I don't have a Myspace account, they could do this.
I read an account of it happening to someone else, a guy - almost the same thing that's happening to me - and this guy was not even a Myspace member.
So, deleting my account won't necessarily solve the problem. From what I read, Myspace doesn't seem to have any accessible "personnel". This guy - and several others - had horror stories about trying to get Myspace to respond in a responsible and timely manner with regard to reports of abuse.
There should be some penalty other than simply deleting a fake account, particularly when the offender does it more than once.
These psycho-cowards must have absolutely nothing to do with their lives other than breathe WING TV.
They act like it's their...job...to stalk me.
Maybe it is, huh.

Lisa
 
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Well, fake WING page # 2 is gone.
Maybe I should put a timer on how long it takes for #3 to appear.

Lisa
 
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Interesting article linked from DailyKOS that talks about these types of strategies and how they are used by Right Wing extremists. I think we can tell from this article that the REAL "movers and shakers" behind the Revereradio bottom feeders, i.e. Rense, Jones, etc, are supported by the very psychopathic totalitarianism that underlies this type of behavior: in short: By their fruits you shall know them. They can protest all they want that they are part of the "alternative media" or "911 Truth seekers," but if they act like the very people they claim they claim they are targetting, I think we can figure out that they are just the "manufactured opposition."

The article has a lot of hyperlinks so if you want details, go to the original.

The thug and intimidation tactics of the Far Right go mainstream

by Glenn Greenwald

As is true for many lawyers who have defended First Amendment free speech rights, I have represented several groups and individuals with extremist and even despicable viewpoints (in general, and for obvious reasons, it is only groups and individuals who espouse ideas considered repugnant by the majority which have their free speech rights threatened). Included among this group were several White Supremacist groups and their leaders, including one such group -- the World Church of the Creator -- whose individual members had periodically engaged in violence against those whom they considered to be the enemy (comprised of racial and religious minorities along with the "race traitors" who were perceived to defend them).

One of the favorite tactics used by such groups is to find the home address and telephone number of the latest enemy and then publish it on the Internet, accompanied by impassioned condemnations of that person as a Grave Enemy, a race traitor, someone who threatens all that is good in the world. A handful of the most extremist pro-life groups have used the same tactic. It has happened in the past that those who were the target of these sorts of demonization campaigns that included publication of their home address were attacked and even killed.

But these intimidation tactics work even when nothing happens. Indeed, these groups often publish the enemy's home address along with some cursory caveat that they are not encouraging violence. The real objective is the same one shared by all terrorists -- to place the person in paralyzing fear. The goal is to force the individual, as they lay in bed at night, to be preoccupied with worry that there is some deranged individual who read one of the websites identifying them as the enemy and which provided their address and who believes that they can strike some blow for their Just Cause by visiting their home and harming or killing them. The fear that they are vulnerable in their own home lurks so prominently and relentlessly in a person's mind that it can be as effective as a physical attack in punishing someone or intimidating them.

This thuggish tactic of intimidation -- publicly railing against someone's grave crimes and then publishing their home address -- has been creeping out of the most extremist precincts on the Right and is becoming increasingly common among mainstream right-wing individuals and organizations.

This weekend, prominent neoconservative David Horowitz proclaimed that the United States is fighting a war and "the aggressors in this war are Democrats, liberals and leftists." In particular, he cited the now infamous NYT Travel section article on Dick Cheney and Don Rumsfeld's vacation homes as evidence that the employees of the NYT are among the enemies in this war, and he then linked to and recommended as a "proposal for action" this post from his associate, Front Page contributor Rocco DiPippo. The post which Horowitz recommended was entitled "Where Does Punch Sulzberger Live?" and this is what it said:

I issue a call to the blogosphere to begin finding and publicly listing the addresses of all New York Times reporters and editors. Posting pictures of their residences, along with details of any security measures in place to protect the properties and their owners (such as location of security cameras and on-site security details) should also be published.
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DiPippo published the home address of NYT Publisher Arthur Sulzberger, along with directions to his home, and linked to a post by right-wing blogger Dan Riehl which contained directions to Sulzberger's home along with photographers of it. In a now-deleted post, DiPippo also published the home address of Linda Spillers, the NYT photographer who took the photograph of Don Rumsfeld's vacation home (with Rumsfeld's express permission), and he urged everyone to go (presumably to the home address he provided) and confront Spillers about her actions.

That was not an isolated incident. This week, Bartholomew's Official Notes on Religion reported on the new "project" implemented by the group StopTheACLU.org. As that group describes it, the project is called "Expose the ACLU Plaintiffs," and promises to publish the home addresses of all individuals who are "using the ACLU" in any First Amendment lawsuit based on the Establishment clause which challenges the constitutionality of governmental promotion of Christianity. The first such enemy targeted for this treatment is a Jewish family in Delaware who sued their local school district over its alleged promotion of Christianity in the public schools. StopTheACLU published their home address and telephone number on its website, and the family -- due to all sorts of recriminations and fear of escalating attacks -- was forced to leave their home and move to another town, which was one of the apparent goals of StopTheACLU in publishing their home address.

Stop the ACLU is not some fringe, isolated group. To the contrary, the "official blog" of StopTheACLU.org is StopTheACLU.com (h/t Hunter), a very prominent player in the right-wing blogosphere. That blog is the 14th most-linked-to blog on the Internet, and is often promoted and approvingly cited to as a source by numerous right-wing bloggers such as Instapundit and Michelle Malkin. The blog Expose the Left (which aspires to be the C&L of the Right), yesterday condemned the "nutcases on the left side of the blososphere" who "are sending unfounded attacks" against StopTheACLU for this plainly despicable thug behavior.

These self-evidently dangerous tactics are merely a natural outgrowth of the hate-mongering bullying sessions which have become the staple of right-wing television shows such as Bill O'Reilly's and websites such as Michelle Malkin's (who, unsurprisingly, has become one of O'Reilly's favorite guests). One of the most constant features of these hate fests is the singling out of some unprotected, private individual -- a public school teacher here, a university administrator there -- who is dragged before hundreds of thousands of readers (or millions of viewers), accused of committing some grave cultural crime or identified as a subversive and an enemy, and then held out as the daily target of unbridled contempt, a symbol of all that is Evil.

Malkin frequently includes contact information for the identified Enemies, and O'Reilly often shows photographs or video of them on multiple programs. These bullying tactics of intimidation -- whereby people who are often just private individuals and who have no defenses (as opposed to, say, prominent politicians or media figures) are singled out for widespread public rituals of contempt -- have quite foreseeable consequences, chief among them placing those targets in fear of retribution. Publishing the home addresses of such individuals is not some wholly different approach, but is merely the next small and foreseeable step, an obvious outgrowth of the hate sessions on which many leading representatives of the Right now heavily rely.

And it is not only those who engage in the tactics themselves who bear responsibility for the consequences, but also those who offer coldly bureaucratic indifference towards these tactics, or even an implicit defense of them. While numerous right-wing bloggers commented this weekend on the truly inane attacks against the NYT Travel article, none (at least that I read) condemned Horowitz for promoting the campaign to publish the home addresses of editors and reporters of the Times. They had much to say about the Evil that is the NYT, but nothing to say about this extraordinary and despicable campaign perfected by extremist groups on the Right and now promoted by Horowitz and groups such as StopTheACLU, to intimidate and endanger journalists and private individuals by collecting and publishing their home addresses.

Beyond merely failing to condemn these tactics, Glenn "Instapundit" Reynolds yesterday deliberately defended them by arguing that they are no different than what the NYT did in its Travel article. Reynolds attacked a post written this weekend by Reason's Dave Weigel, in which Weigel condemned publication of the home address of the NYT photographer. Reynolds -- who pointedly avoided condemning Horowitz and publication of Spiller's home address -- quoted and then attacked Weigel's condemnation as "incoherent":

As so often happens with these things, angry bloggers have struck back and posted the addresses and phone numbers of the Times' photogs. (No link.)
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No link? Why not? By Weigel's standards, a link wouldn't contribute to invasion of privacy. Anybody can find that stuff, right?

And if anybody can find that stuff, why's he so upset about publishing office phone numbers of public officials?

In order to avoid criticizing his comrades on the Right who are engaging in thug tactics, Reynolds actually equates discussion of the vacation homes of top government officials (who enjoy the most extensive and high-level security on the planet) with publication of the home addresses of private individuals and journalists (who have no security of any kind). By his reasoning, mentioning that the Vice President has a vacation home on the Eastern Shore of Maryland is no different than publishing the home address of private individuals who are publicly identified as traitors.

And, lo and behold, the Right's tactics of intimidation against private individuals are reduced by the conniving Reynolds into nothing more than a common and innocuous invasion of privacy of which the NYT and many others are also guilty. And with that corrupt equivalency established, Reynolds is able to post on these matters without condemning the Right's thug tactics, and in fact, implicitly defends them by suggesting that they are rather innocuous and common and nothing to get excited about.

And revealingly, in choosing which villains to criticize from this weekend's treason accusations against the NYT and the thug tactics they inspired, Reynolds chooses Weigel for attack. But he has nothing to say about Horowitz and company for their newly announced campaign "to begin finding and publicly listing the addresses of all New York Times reporters and editors."

As people like Horowitz, Malkin and Reynolds well know -- and just as my most extremist former White Supremacist clients well knew -- if you throw burning matches at gasoline enough times, an explosion is inevitable. The rhetoric of treason -- accusing individuals and organizations of aiding and abetting our nation's enemies and even waging war on this country -- is a lit match. After all, the widely accepted penalty for traitors is execution, which is why it is such an inflammatory yet increasingly common accusation being hurled by the Right against their domestic "enemies" (for precisely the same reason, the favorite accusation of the World Church of the Creator was to label someone a "race traitor," since everyone knows what should be done with traitors).

Openly speculating about whether journalists and politicians are guilty of treason has become unbelievably common of late. And when those accusations are paired with publication of the traitor's home address, the intended result is both obvious and inevitable. Anyone who endorses those tactics in any way -- or who plays cute, coy games in finding ways to justify or minimize them -- knows exactly what they are doing.

As the Bush movement collapses, it is only to be expected that its more fevered adherents will resort to increasingly extremist rhetoric and tactics, out of frustration and anger, if for no other reason. The penetration of these thug tactics into increasingly mainstream venues on the Right is one of the more glaring, and more disturbing, developments of late.

UPDATE: In response to several comments here, let me be clear that I do not believe that the despicable statements referenced in this post can or should be grounds for criminal or civil liability. For reasons I set forth in comments here, here and here, the First Amendment should bar (and the Supreme Court has held it does bar) the imposition of liability based on the consequences flowing from the expression of protected political speech. The point is that these statements are despicable and dangerous, not illegal. The persons who engage in such tactics, or who defend them, bear the ethical and moral responsibilites -- but not legal liability -- for what they spawn.
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Victor Thorn, Michael Langston and I all received this yesterday. Apparently the psycho brigade wants to know where we intend to be on 9-11 for "whatever" reason. It was Jayhan's idea to create a "pool" and the winner of the money collected in the "pool" would be the one who uhh, beats our *sses at a public event, like Ground Zero.
Guess psychos like to plan ahead...

Lisa
__________________________________________________________________________________________

Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2006 18:43:12 -0700


The following is an email sent to you by an administrator of "Lets
Roll! 911 Made Simple".
phillipjayhan@yahoo.com

Message sent to you follows:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

How many of you are either going to Ground Zero, or Washington DC this
September 11th, 2006?

Cheers-
phil :)
 
Superman Returns: WING TV repels Pathological Pirates AKA Rense & Co

According to Jack Blood then, calling a woman a wh*re is "art".
My, how "art" has changed.

Lisa
 
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If what Sonny Crack is doing is considered "art" than as the saying goes... "Toto, I've a feeling we're not in Kansas anymore."
 
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Michael Langston said:
Jack Blood on the Run

Making Excuses for Sonny Crack
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Notice how quick the conversation goes once the question is asked - he's not a racist, thanks for calling blah blah blah I'll talk (ramble) and not really go anywhere with it...
 
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Just received this. It's from a "Revere Radio show host".


Notice how these people continue to attempt to disconnect themselves from the defamation and harassment promoted by individuals on their network.
This one says that the harassment will continue if we don't stop exposing them for what they -as a network - are doing. If we don't "retract" our own statements exposing that this network is involved in ongoing illegality.
The guy who runs their "network", Robb Revere, is also involved in this harassment - remember Robb Revere himself called our house and stupidly broadcast this harassment..:-) Robb Revere as the top psycho of the network, sets the TONE for the network (as does any person who runs a company, organization or group) and the actions of his show hosts reflect upon the entire network as a whole, whether Revere chooses to admit this or not. His show hosts represent the NETWORK. Revere has been confronted with this truth before on the Deadline Live forum and finally even admitted it. I have that thread saved on my hard drive...:-)
The law does not protect them in this defamation, because the first amendment does not consider what the Cracked One did as "protected speech".
He broadcast blatant lies about me to a third party (the world) with active malice. The active malice is clear and repetitious.
This is proven so easily, and this part of the case is irrefutible on its face. ON ITS FACE.
Four different lawyers have now supported this assertion and law enforcement does as well. It is only the Revere Radio and Jack Blood group-non-thinkers that refute this fact.

So how is what this guy "Effex" saying any different than the extortion tactic Sonny tried?
He's basically saying, "Do this...or the harassment will continue." He's essentially saying, "retract" your own statements exposing the illegality, lumping the whole network under one umbrella of crap or the harassment will continue. We're supposed to believe that the malignancy that infects a significant part of the Revere body does not extend to the other appendages of that body, just because they say so. Well, I don't see the "noble" Revere hosts speaking out against the crimes committed by their fellow Revere colleagues, do you?
What was that little saying? Silence is construed as consent? Yeah, that's it.

We have not listened to Effex's show. We could care less about his or any of their "shows", as long as they are not broadcasting LIES for the purpose of defaming and harassing me or Victor Thorn. We don't care to have anything to do with a network that promotes hatred toward women, gutter filth and raw obscenity, malicious harassment, cyberstalking and defamation and calls it "free speech" and "art".

These people utilize no sense of responsibility or self-governance with respect to their speech, which shows how poorly they even understand the first amendment or what free speech really is.

By their praise of, silence toward and/or refusal to denounce what Sonny Crack and Robb Revere and others on and associated with their network have done and continue to do, they are ENDORSING these vicious wrongful actions. Their refusal to call a spade a spade is construed by me and many others as SUPPORTING the criminal actions of the perps. And that is what I call them because that is what they are: PERPS.

In fact, Effex has posted on the Revere forum in regard to this matter and has not once said he thinks what Sonny or any of the others did was wrong. Effex has even posted on my blog on MySpace laughing about this issue. they are brazen now. Let's see how long they can sustain this brazenness once they begin to feel a consequence. Attempts to coerce me into retracting anything I've stated about these criminal acts perpetrated by the Revere psychos are not going to work in their favor. To the contrary.

It's okay to tell lies about me or anyone else and that's "art" and "free speech"?
Exposing wrongdoing is not ATTACKING.
What the Cracked One and his buddies have done and continue to do is aptly termed "ATTACKING" with MALICE.

If any of them had two brain cells to rub together, they would be able to discern the difference.
We're not talking about abstract concepts here.
But this is presuming any of these people have any semblance of an intellect, which apparently, they do not.
Their lack of conscience shines through like a blinding light.
Psychopaths.

Added later: We are not all fighting the "good fight", nor are we all "civilized".
How can human beings who have no conscience, no soul, ever fight "the good fight"?

Lisa
see below
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Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2006 09:12:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Effex

Dear Victor and Lisa,

My name is Effex and I have a show on the revere radio network called The
Schwag show. I'm writing this letter to inform you that we at The Schwag
show are extremely disappointed with the steps you've taken to try to
deface and vandalize our show. You've taken steps to try to shut down a
hosting service that hosts our website, that hosts our pod casts, and that
streams our show. You've referred to us (they) as "a finger of the new
world order", "brown shirts" "thugs" "hip hoppers" and "mafia." You've
made claims that we promote "dealing drugs to children", that we talk
about "killing cops" and that we're associated with people from GCN, Rense
and Jack Blood.

You may be saying to yourself "We don't even know who you are. How can we
have said those things about you?" An easy answer: you've gathered up
all Revere radio hosts into one category, made claims about certain
people, and the applied them to everyone. This is inaccurate, sloppy and
irresponsible. I truly do understand why you're the most hated people in
this movement.

At the revere radio network we have a very simple policy. The views and
opinions expressed by the hosts on our network are individual. They are
not associated with any other host on the network or the network itself.
You've no doubt listened to many of the shows on this network, so I find
it hard to believe that you've overlooked this very straight forward fact.
I can only assume that your motives are to make blanket statements about
the network itself and then attempt to shut it down. I advise very
strongly against this. We at The Schwag Show have absolutely no beef
whatsoever with Wing TV. We actually applaud attempts to report
wrongdoing and uncover individuals who would seek to hurt this movement.
(However sloppy and inaccurate those attempts are) There is no vendetta
against Wing TV from myself or any of the people who help with the show.
We are not owned or paid by anyone. We are not affiliated with anyone
from any other network.

While I strongly support Sonny Cracks right to free speech, and your right
to retaliate (or re-retaliate, depending on the perspective) I recognize
the delicacy of the situation and I request that you do the same. Making
blanket statements about the network in general is only going to
antagonize more people to harass you. It is my theory that this is your
motive. Please prove me wrong.

Redact your statements about The Schwag Show and halt your attempts to
shut down our servers. You are of course invited to speak publicly about
the topics at hand on our show.

I hope we can come to a civilized conclusion about this so we can all
continue to fight the good fight.

Thank you for your time,

- Effex
 
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The saying "When you lie down with dogs don't be surprised to stand up with fleas" (or something to that effect) comes to mind.

Of course there could be several reasons:

1. Naivety/innocense
2. Stupidity
3. Complicity
4 Psychopathy

'Effex' initially plays on the first reason when he says
Effex said:
At the revere radio network we have a very simple policy. The views and
opinions expressed by the hosts on our network are individual. They are
not associated with any other host on the network or the network itself.
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However reason number 1 is quickly undermined by Effex himself, when he starts defending the dogs at Revere. We are thus left with reasons 2,3 and 4 which are not mutually exclusive.

Stupidity, Complicity and Psychopathy sums it up nicely when looked at in the broader context, though there might be more reasons that I haven't thought of. Altogether this thread has illustrated well, a case study of ponerology in action.

Thanks Lisa for keeping us informed about the ongoing developments.

Anders
 
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Peter Schaenk is going to be talking about the WING articles on the Revere crew.
I received an email telling me he was doing a special broadcast and he just said a few minutes ago that he will be addressing this.
Should be interesting if anybody wants to listen to his perspective on it.
Peter Schaenk has also come under vicious attack by these same people for having us on his show.
So Schaenk factors into the story as well.

You can listen from this link:
http:(2slash)www(dot)shankradio.com/
Lisa...:-)
 
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Peter Schaenk appears to be an avowed and disgusting racist, and not someone that we want to be associated with in any way - ever.

Joe
 
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Well, he does have something to say about Alex Jones & the Revere issue, whatever you think of his views on other matters.
Listening to what he has to say about this is not being "associated" with him, is it?
Michael Langston isolated a clip of Schaenk's commentary regarding the whole Jones-Blood-Revere issue.
Schaenk was attacked by the same people as me and Alex Jones does play into this.
Whether you agree with Schaenk on other issues or not, what he has to say about THIS issue is dead on.

Added: I simply wanted everybody to hear the 13 minutes or so of Schaenk talking about this Revere issue.
I was not saying I walk in lockstep with his views on anything else he was talking about. He was discussing the same thing we have been discussing (the Revere issue) for one segment of his program, and that is all I was directing anyone toward, as the commentary was interesting.
This is what I wanted you to hear>> Miichael Langston's isolated clip - it goes to Langston's audio directory:
Media_Matters_2006-07-08_Peter_Schaenk_Discusses_Revere_Wrongdoing.MP3

Lisa
 
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Lisa said:
Well, he does have something to say about Alex Jones & the Revere issue, whatever you think of his views on other matters.
Listening to what he has to say about this is not being "associated" with him, is it?
Michael Langston isolated a clip of Schaenk's commentary regarding the whole Jones-Blood-Revere issue.
Schaenk was attacked by the same people as me and Alex Jones does play into this.
Whether you agree with Schaenk on other issues or not, what he has to say about THIS issue is dead on.

Lisa
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Listening to it is not association, but having him defend you and Victor definitely associates him with you and Victor, which, in my opinion, is definitely not a desirable thing

Joe
 
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