Funny how GC kept accusing Joe, who was only trying to point out his subjectivity and assumptions, of "attacking" him and/or defaming him, or treating him like a child, or whatever. (It changed from minute to minute.) And yet here is a clear example of his pettiness and ad hominem attacks which he might have thought were clever, but which actually weren't - they were so obvious as to be absurd. He is basically telling Joe he is "backward" and that "backwardness" relates to being Irish.GC said:
However, there is something about GC that I didn't mention because I didn't think it was constructive to trying to help him to see. However, since the situation has played out and that's that, there's no point in withholding the data now.
You see, among the many really bizarre stories he was telling us during his visit - the things that were demonstrating to us with absolute clarity because he was revealing his views of things in these stories - were things about his background which included the fact that he was a Gypsy.
Now, of course, I'm sure that many of you are aware of what the C's had to say about Gypsies. I've always taken that with some salt and stayed open to any possibility, but in the past few years with the research on psychopathy and this leading to issues of genetics, I wonder if there is not more to this than I initially was willing to consider?
Anyway, here is the relevant Cs excerpt:
Now, the issue of "V***" being part Gypsy was interesting. The Cs had a couple other things to say about her.
Now, it is V*** who had the uncle who had the power to "stop the flow of blood" that I have mentioned on a few occasions. This guy was a wife-beating alcoholic who spent most of his life in a beer-joint (not even elegant enough to be called a bar), drinking and gambling. But he had this unusual ability. If there was an injury in a knife fight or an accident in someone's home, they would go to V***'s aunt and they would find what bar he was in, go and haul him out, drunk or not, and get him to lay hands on the person and the bleeding would stop and the injury would heal twice as fast as normal.
It was hearing this story that got me started thinking about the many other stories I had read about people with unusual powers, including healing powers (like psychic surgery even), who were clearly NOT particularly spiritually evolved. In fact, you could even say that some of them lived their lives as though under the control of some kind of demon.
But then, we are somewhat programmed to think that anyone who has such "powers" MUST be, automatically, a "spiritual" person. And "powers" and phenomena lead many astray.
But then, in addition to her powers to heal, there was something else about V***:
So, that was disturbing. It was even disturbing to V*** who eventually read it on the website. She was genuinely distressed and her feelings were hurt. I felt really sorry for her and explained that whatever the Cs had seen, she could choose her own path, blah blah blah. In short, I tried to reassure her in every way I could.
At the same time, I didn't forget that there WAS a possibility that, even without conscious intent, she could cause me or my children harm. (That was also evident by other incidents regarding her that are too tedious to explain just now.)
So, when we realized that we had to get out of the U.S., we also realized that we had to do it covertly without letting it be publicly known that we were actually leaving, and those people we had to tell we were leaving, we didn't want any of them to know when or how or any specific details.
It was strange that, sometime before this point, V**** resurfaced in our lives after having been off doing her own thing for a couple of years. (Another long story.) So, there she was, trying to be in contact every single day, drawing herself closer and closer, and it was making me nervous considering the dangers I could see all around and the fact that I knew we needed to leave without attracting attention to the fact we were leaving. You could even say that the house raffle was partly a front - kind of like the "singing contest" front in the movie "The Sound of Music." In fact, the analogy is not too far off. There we were, with the DoD breathing down Ark's neck, wanting to suck him deeper into their secret projects the same way von Trapp was expected to "report for duty" to the Nazis.
So, at this point, I was not going to take ANY risks. The Cs had taught me enough to figure that one out. We left without letting V**** know.
Now, I will say that in spite of everything, I really felt bad about this. I planned to wait until we were settled and then help V*** with a ticket to come to visit us but, as everyone knows, getting settled took a couple of years!!!
In the meantime, V****, feeling horribly abused that we had not told her the day and hour of our departure, showed up on Montalk's forum.
Keep in mind that V*** had met Montalk and his gal-pal, Carissa Conti, at a Cs session at our house where the subject of OPs was discussed in a very interesting way.
For the rest of this story, see this thread: http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=2007 where the details begin on this page: http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=2007&p=3
V**** is "Auendove".
Now, getting back to GC, at the time he visited, I was quite aware of how things had transpired regarding V*** , Montalk and the gang, and how right the Cs had been - that she was an FRV "robot." So when GC revealed his gypsy connection, a big red warning flag went up the flagpole in my head.
And, in a bizarre coincidence, I have just received word that GC has just shown up on Montalk's forum!!! Talk about strange!
This is so cranky and even untrue - as in LIES - that it just staggers my mind to think that this guy is going along claiming any kind of "spiritual" aims or practice.GC said:
First of all, Joe is an excellent writer and many of his editorials have been republished all over the net. In fact, he regularly gets us into hot water, witness his "Frozen Fish" piece on the Pentagon!!! (We joke that if we aren't being attacked or if we aren't "in trouble," we aren't doing it right!) So, he doesn't just "sit around surfing the net." He is actively producing creative material that actually helps other people - literally thousands upon thousands of them, if not millions.
Can GC say that he is helping other people to see and understand? That he is helping to increase their knowledge about one single thing?
Well, obviously not, since he actually lies.
Second point, which Joe has already addressed, he doesn't chain smoke. He barely smokes at all. He goes days without smoking and now and then he'll take a puff off someone else's cigarette or smoke a very thin rollie.
That remark was about as accurate as GC's "profound assessment" that I don't drink enough water! Or that my kids drink soda all the time. Yeah, they did now and again and please tell me about one parent who isn't a Nazi who manages to persuade their kids that sodas are totally evil. My general philosophy is that if you eat right 70% of the time, you can accommodate the other 30% of junk and whatever. More than that, if you spend so much time concentrating on the physical, then you don't have much time left to do other things. Yeah, I could concentrate wholly on myself, my health, therapy and such. Geeze, I did that for three years after my accident. It was a full time job. I just don't have time for it. I do what I can, drink lots of water, take supplements (and am now going to try the amino acid thing), and work full bore every day.
Finally, the nasty crack about "waiting for the end of the world" - say WHAT?
Fact is, we live our lives as though the world will go on and nothing unusual will happen. Our children continue to go to school. We encourage everyone to continue getting their educations, to keep their jobs or create jobs for themselves and network for mutual support, and to stay aware and alert about THIS reality because if you depend on some pie-in-the-sky idea to "save you," then you are bound to be made a fool of.
Ark continues his scientific work, research, publishing papers. I continue to research and write. We continue the SOTT page news and commentary for a living world that needs such a resource. And we don't assume that anything will happen for absolutely certain.
Yeah, the odds are not good and things do look a bit squirrely, but you never know when your constant efforts can produce a non-linear change. And so, the very fact that we continue is based on our idea that we don't know what is going to happen, so we must do each day what is in front of us to support truth and humanity because it just might make a difference even if the only difference it makes manifests way in the future when we are long dead and gone.
Now, if we stopped all our interactions with the world to concentrate on this plan that GC had for "getting ready for the wave" or having "metaphysical experiences" or whatever, THAT would be weird!!! It would also be extremely selfish. We are not here for ourselves, we are here for others. It's really that simple. Yes, we try to act in ways that preserve our ability to do our work and to keep our energy up as much as possible, but even that is geared toward doing for others. And when things need to be done for others, usually anything that is needed for ourselves goes on the back burner. And just now, millions are suffering all over the planet and we cannot rest or think about getting "metaphysical experiences."
Finally, let me add another little bit of data about Joe. Joe grew up in Northern Ireland, a Catholic, under British occupation. I'm not going to recount to you any of the stories about his young life in that nightmare which was similar in many respects to what the Palestinians are experiencing today, but if anyone wants to understand where Joe is coming from when he writes there are movies that pretty accurately depict the atmosphere of his experiences.
Here's a short list:
Michael Collins (starring: Liam Neeson, Aidan Quinn, Julia Roberts, Alan Rickman; Director: Neil Jordan)
In the Name of the Father (with Daniel Day-Lewis, Pete Postlethwaite, Emma Thompson, John Lynch, Corin Redgrave)
The Wind That Shakes The Barley (with Cillian Murphy, Liam Cunningham, William Ruane, Padraic Delaney, Orla Fitzgerald)
Some Mother's Son
Bloody Sunday
Sunday http://www.sundayfilm.net/Synopsis.htm
Ten Men Dead The Story of the 1981 Irish Hunger Strike
H3
Acceptable Levels (1983)
Now, if ya'll will watch these movies and understand that this was REAL LIFE to Joe - and millions of others - then perhaps you will understand his passion for speaking up for the Palestinians and anyone who is oppressed or subjected to inhuman abuse.
I don't think GC, who grew up in the U.S. under fairly cushy circumstances, can even have a clue about what it is like to care enough about other people and the world to be willing to give up all comforts of an ordinary life to try to use what skills you have to stand up to a global monster.
In short, GreyCat's ignorance and insensitivity are appalling. It's nice that he could quit college to go join the circus and learn to stand on one hand and that he feels he has to justify his existence by that ability. I wonder how well he would have done under the British mandate in Ireland with that "will to survive"?
Also, for those interested, here is Cory's website. You can see some little videos of him. Keep in mind that he is a really tiny person even if on video he looks like a big guy.
http://www.handbalancer.com/
