Wow! Well why didn't you say so? lol Still it would take quite a leap of faith to go off Humira which is working for me, to AHT.
That's quite the testimonial though.
Laura's Stem Cells
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Wow! Well why didn't you say so? lol Still it would take quite a leap of faith to go off Humira which is working for me, to AHT.
That's quite the testimonial though.
I hadn't heard of Humira before, so I looked it up real quick. The problem may be that as a long-term solution, it could be risky, yes? (See adverse effects). I don't know how you'd go from that to AHT safely, but it might be worth it to do some research on the topic. Maybe it's just me for not being well informed, but I don't trust immunosuppresive medication. It seems to not only just mask the symptoms, but also prevent your immune system from doing what it's supposed to do instead of treating the root of the problem.
I've said so in a number of places on the forum, as openly as possible.
Obviously, I needed different meds at different stages in the process, but at present, I only take two prescriptions: thyroid and metformin. I think metformin is a miracle too!
The thing is, AHT is practically an all-purpose miracle, but you do have to follow some guidelines. A person in a low and weakened condition should start with low doses, so to say, and build up gradually. In some cases, every 36 to 48 hours is optimal; in most cases, once a week.
Diet is also important. Taking the right supplements for you is also important. It has taken awhile for me to refine things, and to know when I need a dash of this or a dollop of that in supplements, but basically, I just stick with magnesium daily, iodine daily, (1 or 2 drops of 12%), Methyl-folate combo, benfotiamin. That's it for daily stuff. It's not much and is no hassle. About once or twice a month, I take a mega dose of Vitamin D. I avoid Vitamin E because it inflames me; I take a phosphatidyl choline now and then, and an L-tyrosine now and then. I take NAC as often as needed, and ambroxol to deal with my gene mutation that makes it difficult for my body to take out the trash.
In the end, after all the things tried, experimented with, pursued for some time here and there, in the end, it is AHT that has impressed me the most. If I could only have ONE med on a desert island, it would be a big box of syringes so I could do AHT as often as needed.
I don't know your specific condition or anything about the drug you are taking, so I can't offer any impressions. Dr. Gaby might have thoughts on the topic, though.
As a temporary solution, therapies such as Humira might bring some relief and cut down a vicious cycle. As a long-term solution, it only masks symptoms so you can forget to deal with the root of the problem.
I think biological therapies such as Humira are so widespread because a lot of money was invested on them and it costs insurance companies an arm and a leg. Someone is definitely making a profit. If you think about it, autohemtherapy is also a biological therapy, but it is free and 100% natural, involving the entire body and not just one molecule. Yes, it might take the concerted effort of several different things, including diet, detox, etc. It might take awhile, but the long-term results will be much more rewarding.
You don't want to be dependent on humira for life. It is pricey, leaves you vulnerable to infections and cancer.
I think biological therapies such as Humira are so widespread because a lot of money was invested on them and it costs insurance companies an arm and a leg. Someone is definitely making a profit. If you think about it, autohemtherapy is also a biological therapy, but it is free and 100% natural, involving the entire body and not just one molecule. Yes, it might take the concerted effort of several different things, including diet, detox, etc. It might take awhile, but the long-term results will be much more rewarding.
You don't want to be dependent on humira for life. It is pricey, leaves you vulnerable to infections and cancer.
No I don't, of course not. I'm getting it free through an assistance program, though. I almost wished I might get denied this time around so then I would have to try AHT but they approved me for another year. Received a three month supply just today. I did ask the doctor about long term effects from the drug but she claims it's safe. (Not that I necessarily believe that.) I'll start looking into AHT.
worldbridger
Jedi Master
Swiss Medica didn't mention that! Must have missed that part in this thread, don't recall you wrote about it. I'll wait with the stem cell thing then, if I do it at all.
Ok, I'll look for another nurse. I think I will even wait with Quinton since I remember that it can be rough too and I will have to make a trip within approx. 2-3 months in order not to go bankrupt, so it is a very important trip.
Thanks for the warning, appreciate it.
worldbridger
Jedi Master
I asked Swiss Medica about Herxheimer or how I might feel the coming weeks/months after the treatment, they said "based on our experience stem cell treatment does not cause any side effects".
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nature
Dagobah Resident
It doesn't surprise me, from them. Last year, I emailed them to get precise informations for someone from my entourage who wanted to go there. I used medical and technical terms, and they never answered. It seemed to me that they use superfluous things.
Well, they seem to prefer dealing with lay, credulous, not forwarned patients, with people who are impressed by their "sophisticated" protocols, "modern", "latest fashion" treatments. Well, it's a swiss clinic, they have to "justify" their high (indecent) prices with "high" technology, "modern" rooms, etc. As always, business!
Something I often notice, whatever the domain, the matter: the simpliest things are often the best ones.
Another point: it's about stem cell. Stem cells become adult cells in order to accomplish their function then die, as all cells. They don't stay in your body all your life. So, you'll pay a huge amount of money for only 1 session (1 stay) in their clinic. Will you be able to undergo the process every month, for example? Maybe it's a question you can ask them.
worldbridger
Jedi Master
I asked about no of sessions, they said that I can come back if I feel I need to.It doesn't surprise me, from them. Last year, I emailed them to get precise informations for someone from my entourage who wanted to go there. I used medical and technical terms, and they never answered. It seemed to me that they use superfluous things.
Well, they seem to prefer dealing with lay, credulous, not forwarned patients, with people who are impressed by their "sophisticated" protocols, "modern", "latest fashion" treatments. Well, it's a swiss clinic, they have to "justify" their high (indecent) prices with "high" technology, "modern" rooms, etc. As always, business!
Something I often notice, whatever the domain, the matter: the simpliest things are often the best ones.
Another point: it's about stem cell. Stem cells become adult cells in order to accomplish their function then die, as all cells. They don't stay in your body all your life. So, you'll pay a huge amount of money for only 1 session (1 stay) in their clinic. Will you be able to undergo the process every month, for example? Maybe it's a question you can ask them.
worldbridger
Jedi Master
So you see Laura, you didn't have any side effects, just "effects"… 
And again, I'm happy for your improvements, well-deserved indeed.
And again, I'm happy for your improvements, well-deserved indeed.
And pay through the nose, too.
So you see Laura, you didn't have any side effects, just "effects"…
And again, I'm happy for your improvements, well-deserved indeed.
Well, I thought about it a lot and I've written about it somewhere on the forum, maybe in this thread: it seemed to me that having a bunch of stem cells to do stuff is all fine and good, but what if you don't have any energy production because your mitochondria are down the toilet? (figure of speech!)
As I've written, I was so exhausted, and it was so constant, for over 2 months after, that I began to desperately look for something to perk up the mitochondria and that's what led me to the Infrabed thing. That REALLY helped. And then, it was just a month after that I began the AHT. With the infrabed and AHT AND all those handy stem cells running around, I was so much better by January of 2018, that I put my canes in the corner.
So yes, I think the stem cells were worth it, but ONLY because I was able to implement support actions pretty quickly. And then, I realized that the AHT was actually stimulating stem cells to get out and get moving all by itself, so I didn't need to even think about going back.
It doesn't surprise me, from them. Last year, I emailed them to get precise informations for someone from my entourage who wanted to go there. I used medical and technical terms, and they never answered. It seemed to me that they use superfluous things.
Well, they seem to prefer dealing with lay, credulous, not forwarned patients, with people who are impressed by their "sophisticated" protocols, "modern", "latest fashion" treatments. Well, it's a swiss clinic, they have to "justify" their high (indecent) prices with "high" technology, "modern" rooms, etc. As always, business!
Something I often notice, whatever the domain, the matter: the simpliest things are often the best ones.
Another point: it's about stem cell. Stem cells become adult cells in order to accomplish their function then die, as all cells. They don't stay in your body all your life. So, you'll pay a huge amount of money for only 1 session (1 stay) in their clinic. Will you be able to undergo the process every month, for example? Maybe it's a question you can ask them.
In all fairness, the fact that you did not get a reply to an involved email is not a surprise considering how busy they are there. I mean, you have to be there to understand that those doctors and nurses are really working hard, constantly. They have clerical people who only have a modest amount of knowledge, but who have a list of protocols etc, to answer emails.
Also, it is only "Swiss" in name - the owners/operators and most of the medical personnel are Russian. They hire nurses and orderlies and lab people from the local environment, and they all must be super good and super professional and speak English. I don't think I've ever been around such good nurses before.
It seems to me that they are trying to make their protocols available to people who have been abused or abandoned by the Western medical system. The prices are high by most EU standards where socialized (and often deficient) medicine is the thing. But compared to prices in the West in general, what you get for your money is a LOT.
On the other hand, you are right about stem cells - they have to become adult cells, and if the problem is protracted, you have to get more of them repeatedly. For that purpose, they freeze a batch of your own cells, and culture them for "refills".
Having said that, what I noticed is that particular conditions are the main focus and some of the mystery diseases and conditions of the West are just not within their purview, I don't think. I'm also not so sure that just loading up on stem cells willy nilly is the right solution; it seems to me that stem cells might need to be "guided" in some way, and they don't appear to be doing that. I'm not sure about that, but I seem to remember something about it.
I learned a LOT from them, and got some really good ideas and guidance in certain things, but after working my way through the fallout, I think there are a few things they could add to their bag of tools, including teaching people/family members of patients, to do AHT on an ongoing basis in order to give support to the stem cells. Another thing would be teaching people about light therapy that can also do a lot to activate and support stem cells.
Another thing, when we asked if Dr. Gaby could accompany us, they were happy to have her and she was allowed to go wherever she liked, to see all the equipment, techniques, etc, as they did their rounds and such. They don't have much in the way of spare time, but they accommodated her as best they could, answered questions "on the job", so to say, and were generally very welcoming.
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Thank you Laura for these info, especially making me aware how they can be busy, receiving so many emails and phone calls throughout the day.
I've completely forgotten the AFA stuff, as it didn't do any effect that I could feel. Now that I'm doing AHT, I 'll reconsider it, and associate it to my AHT sessions. I also tend to forget the information/intention to put in the reinjected blood.
Yes! I read a book a while ago about stem cells, the author gave the factors to be combined. I listed them in this post
I've completely forgotten the AFA stuff, as it didn't do any effect that I could feel. Now that I'm doing AHT, I 'll reconsider it, and associate it to my AHT sessions. I also tend to forget the information/intention to put in the reinjected blood.
