Libel and Defamation Against SOTT, Cass, LKJ, QFG, etc

[Gawan]

I often am reading the forum with ten or fifteen tabs open at once, trying to keep up and help where needed, so hopefully mods will keep an eye on me and remind me when I forget!

Imo, you are doing a fantastic job here and also the many helping hands. :)

 

[SeekinTruth]

Shouldn't many of the links in the quoted article/emails in dugdeep's post have the links deactivated, either by dugdeep himself editing the post or by a mod/admin (whoever gets to it first)? For example the following links from that post:

_http://educate-yourself.org/lte/mmsjimhumblelauraknight31aug11.shtml

_http://thebettermentofman.com

_http://www.thebettermentofman.com/BookOne.htm

_http://www.thebettermentofman.com/Index22.htm

_http://www.thebettermentofman.com/Chapter0enlightenment.htm

 

[Jacques]

Shouldn't many of the links in the quoted article/emails in dugdeep's post have the links deactivated, either by dugdeep himself editing the post or by a mod/admin (whoever gets to it first)? For example the following links from that post:

_http://educate-yourself.org/lte/mmsjimhumblelauraknight31aug11.shtml

_http://thebettermentofman.com

_http://www.thebettermentofman.com/BookOne.htm

_http://www.thebettermentofman.com/Index22.htm

_http://www.thebettermentofman.com/Chapter0enlightenment.htm

Thanks for the info.

Done.

 

[SeekinTruth]

You're welcome, Gandalf, and thanks for taking care of it.

 

[dugdeep]

Oops, just catching up here. Sorry about that. I was in a rush when I posted it and just copied and pasted, not thinking about the fact that the links would be active.
Sloppy on my part. Appologies.

 

[Bernhard]

Maybe this has been posted else where before, but I didn't see it.

The newest video by Laura (Organic Portals) seemed to have attracted the usual attacks. The user "TheDigitalFlood" had been very persistent, so I checked out his profile. He just loaded up a new video similar to the last "anonymous" slander against Laura and this group.

_http://www.youtube.com/user/TheDigitalFlood

- A Message to Members of the The Cassiopaean Experiment (mirrored)
_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HoiH-mxao2c&feature=channel_video_title

Hello members of the Cassiopaean Experiment and the Quantum Future Project . We are Anonymous and we have been watching you.

We have not been watching long. Admittedly our attention has been drawn to more urgent issues. But the time may come that our attention will be more focused on you. It has not escaped us that your actions as a group bear disturbing parallels to those of the Church of Scientology. Your leader Laura Knight Jadzyck has created an organization where she has disturbing influence over vulnerable people who trust her to tell them what to do. More concerning, dissent and questioning appears to be silenced or vindictively punished as a Google search of Vincent Bridges will show.

These are not the actions of a healthy leader or a healthy group. These are the actions of a controlling abusive cult. A healthy group can tolerate not only disagreement, but also the fact that some members leave. A healthy leader does not encourage people to hound and harass former members. On the contrary a healthy leader tells their group they will not tolerate abusive actions in the name of the group. Laura instead approves of the harassment, misguidedly thinking she is protecting her lifestyle. In the short term, perhaps, but eventually it will become clear that this woman is not the savior of humanity and she has no special wisdom to impart. The Cassieopean Experiment and its various front groups, like all cults, exists not to help people as they say, but to pay for the founder's lifestyle.

It is not the beliefs that drive the Cassieopean Experiment that have us concerned, or the un orthodox means used to communicate with the supposed Cassiopeians. This falls under freedom of belief. The problem is when these beliefs are used as weapons to manipulate, frighten and intimidate members.

We have been down this road before. At first L.Ron Hubbard was a guy with strange ideas. No one saw the controlling toxic organization the Church of Scientology would become until too late. But the signs where there, the lies, the harassment, the suicides, fair game. Then Lisa McPherson died. That was the beginning of the end for Scientology.

Hopefully one day we will not read about the death of any Cassiopaean Experiment members. But we cannot afford to wait around and hope. If nothing history shows organizations intent on controlling members every aspect of life inevitably become more abusive in their hunger for more power. This org may become a danger to members, their families and the public.

The flags are already there:

A history of violence in the leader.
A history of criminal actions and fraud in the name of the org.
Labeling of critics as subhuman, or Organic Portals, what the Scientologists call suppressive persons.
A policy of Fair Game, though it is unknown at this time if this is official policy or the typical reaction of a dictator lashing out.

Now is the time to gather information about the org and its founder. Now is the time to educate the public. Now is the time to warn members. Now is the time to finish this fight...if we're lucky, before it can start.

Knowledge is free.
We are anonymous.
We are legion.
We do not forgive abusive cults.
We do not forget the abused.
Expect us.

_http://web.archive.org/web/20041128071202/http://www.survivingthefall.net/cas...
_http://www.secret-history-of-l­aura-knight-jadczyk.info/forum­/
_http://cassiopaeacult.tk/
_http://truthaction.org/forum/v­iewtopic.php?p=45046#45046
_http://what-do-you-all-know-ab­out.tk/forum1/message115499/pg­1/

 

[Voyageur]

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Maybe this has been posted else where before, but I didn't see it.

The newest video by Laura (Organic Portals) seemed to have attracted the usual attacks. The user "TheDigitalFlood" had been very persistent, so I checked out his profile. He just loaded up a new video similar to the last "anonymous" slander against Laura and this group.
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Sounds like he is talking through a Darth Vader Mask

 

[Gawan]

Maybe this has been posted else where before, but I didn't see it.

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Now is the time to gather information about the org and its founder. Now is the time to educate the public. Now is the time to warn members. Now is the time to finish this fight...if we're lucky, before it can start.

Yes, from other distrustful sources without getting the picture at all. That means more lies and twists, based on (agenda) opinions, information, false believes and a personal problem.

 

[Laura]

Maybe this has been posted else where before, but I didn't see it.

The newest video by Laura (Organic Portals) seemed to have attracted the usual attacks. The user "TheDigitalFlood" had been very persistent, so I checked out his profile. He just loaded up a new video similar to the last "anonymous" slander against Laura and this group.

_http://www.youtube.com/user/TheDigitalFlood

- A Message to Members of the The Cassiopaean Experiment (mirrored)
_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HoiH-mxao2c&feature=channel_video_title

This is undoubtedly "Jean" of "The French Connection Redux" fame. His planned "Epic Fail" failed, and he's still going like an energizer bunny. He's apparently gotten some help because his English is better. Probably Vincent Bridges or someone associated with him.

Hello members of the Cassiopaean Experiment and the Quantum Future Project . We are Anonymous and we have been watching you.

Yeah, right. What a looper.

We have not been watching long. Admittedly our attention has been drawn to more urgent issues. But the time may come that our attention will be more focused on you.

Excusing his planned "Epic Fail" that failed.

It has not escaped us that your actions as a group bear disturbing parallels to those of the Church of Scientology. Your leader Laura Knight Jadzyck has created an organization where she has disturbing influence over vulnerable people who trust her to tell them what to do.

"Jean's" complaint that his ex-partner left him because she was "influenced" is clearly intended here. Poor "Marie" is supposed to have been influenced because she decided to leave an abuser/pedophile and to protect her children.

More concerning, dissent and questioning appears to be silenced or vindictively punished as a Google search of Vincent Bridges will show.

Ummm... if anybody cares to check the record, Vincent Bridges was ejected from our group for 1) lying; 2) promoting black magic AND practicing it; 3) manipulating and trying to negatively influence our members by telling them they were victims of government mind control projects and needed years of therapy with him as the "deprogrammer" of course. Bridges then went on the attack and we only defended ourselves. The records we have obtained and maintained all these years clearly prove this to be the case.

These are not the actions of a healthy leader or a healthy group.

So, you aren't supposed to kick out liars and manipulators and black magicians? You aren't supposed to have the right to NOT associate with such if you don't want to?

These are the actions of a controlling abusive cult.

So, it is a "controlling abusive cult" that wishes to have the right to only associate with sane, healthy people?

A healthy group can tolerate not only disagreement, but also the fact that some members leave.

Ummm... we aren't talking about disagreement here, we are talking about liars and manipulators. Plus, we aren't talking about Vincent Bridges "leaving" but that he was ejected and objected to his ejection and went on the attack. Somebody's got a really twisted mind here to get those details backward!

A healthy leader does not encourage people to hound and harass former members.

No, nor do we now or have we ever hounded and abused anyone for leaving. The record on that is clear. However, we DO reserve the right to defend ourselves when those we have ejected for being liars, manipulators, or generally psychopathological or deviant go on the attack and accuse us of being a cult for kicking them OUT! I mean, how crazy is that? A "cult" that kicks liars and manipulators out!!!

On the contrary a healthy leader tells their group they will not tolerate abusive actions in the name of the group.

Exactly! What we have done for years and years and years. We ONLY DEFEND ourselves when attacked.

Laura instead approves of the harassment, misguidedly thinking she is protecting her lifestyle.

Ummmm.... what part of "we only defend ourselves when attacked" - and we can prove it - does this idiot NOT understand?

In the short term, perhaps, but eventually it will become clear that this woman is not the savior of humanity and she has no special wisdom to impart.

I've never said - nobody has ever said - that I'm the "savior of humanity." I doubt humanity can be saved and say so regularly.

The Cassieopean Experiment and its various front groups, like all cults, exists not to help people as they say, but to pay for the founder's lifestyle.

Good thing I no longer drink coffee or I'd have blown it through my nose on this one... what "lifestyle"? We live in a house falling apart, work 24/7 on our research and publishing, and I still I do my own laundry, clean house like everyone else, and have no truck with people who want me to be a guru.

It is not the beliefs that drive the Cassieopean Experiment that have us concerned, or the un orthodox means used to communicate with the supposed Cassiopeians. This falls under freedom of belief. The problem is when these beliefs are used as weapons to manipulate, frighten and intimidate members.

In other words, "Jean" is concerned that "Marie" left him because she began to research psychopathology on her own and got his number. Because, in fact, we don't have any beliefs! We have possibilities that we look at, probabilities that we consider and write about, but mainly we think that Truth does exist and the best way to try to find it is the scientific method. So it seems that the scientific method used in the study of the paranormal (and the whole rest of the world) is the enemy here because it exposes people like "Jean" for the perverts and pedophiles they are.

We have been down this road before.

Trying really hard to align himself with "Anonymous".

At first L.Ron Hubbard was a guy with strange ideas. No one saw the controlling toxic organization the Church of Scientology would become until too late. But the signs where there, the lies, the harassment, the suicides, fair game.

Ummm.... there's really no comparison here. There are no lies - only truth - no harassment - only defense when attacked - no suicides (we don't deal with unhealthy people... forgot to mention that, if a person is having problems that are serious, we strongly urge them to see a psychologist or their own doctor and ban them from the forum). Research and dealing with truth is only for the strong minded.

Then Lisa McPherson died. That was the beginning of the end for Scientology.

Last time I checked, CoS was going stronger than ever and they even got a free pass in France even AFTER being described as a "dangerous cult". (Maybe because Tom Cruise is short, too!)

Hopefully one day we will not read about the death of any Cassiopaean Experiment members. But we cannot afford to wait around and hope.

What a nutcase! What part of "we eject people, not try to keep them and force them to do anything" do you NOT understand?

If nothing history shows organizations intent on controlling members every aspect of life inevitably become more abusive in their hunger for more power. This org may become a danger to members, their families and the public.

Ummm... again: What part of "we eject people, not try to keep them and force them to do anything" do you NOT understand?

"Jean's" agenda comes through: Marie left his sorry self and that can ONLY be because she was "mind controlled" right? He is simply unable to acknowledge that he's a disgusting, slimy, sack of excrement and no woman in her right mind would stay around him once she figured out what he was.

The flags are already there:

A history of violence in the leader.

Sounds like Vincent Bridges ragging on about the fact that I defended myself against an attacker when I was 18 - and prevailed.

A history of criminal actions and fraud in the name of the org.

None. Outright lie. All made up by Vincent Bridges putting his pejorative schizoidal spin on anything and everything I've ever done. For example: I once wrote about a trip to a scientific conference in Marseille with my husband. During this trip, we were invited out to eat by the conference organizer and his wife who lived there. They took us in their little boat to a restaurant on an island. Vincent Bridges read this article and denounced it as a "Luxury Mediterranean Cruise paid for by cult minions"!!!! Yeah, that's how twisted he is and how he comes up with a long list of "criminal actions and fraud". In other words, he just makes stuff up!!!

Labeling of critics as subhuman, or Organic Portals, what the Scientologists call suppressive persons.

No comparison. I don't label critics that way though, of course, if the shoe fits... what's more, the idea of Organic Portals has a lot of support both in ancient literature, esoteric writings, AND modern cognitive science!

A policy of Fair Game, though it is unknown at this time if this is official policy or the typical reaction of a dictator lashing out.

Like I've said over and over again: we have only ever defended ourselves when attacked. And it seems that the main reason we get attacked is because we identify liars and manipulators and eject them. They are thus deprived of using our groups as a predatorial hunting ground and this makes them furious. Just as "Jean" was exposed as a liar a pervert in the eyes of his ex-partner, Marie, and she ejected him. He's lost his food and he's furious and is now trying to engage the Police Judiciare on one side, and Anonymous on the other, to inflict revenge on us (me in particular). Well, that's the surface of the thing. What seems more evident every day is that this is a concerted PTB-controlled-from-the-shadows affair and "Jean" is just a useful idiot.

Now is the time to gather information about the org and its founder.

Sorry, bud, the Police Judiciare in Toulouse has been trying to do that for 6 months now and there is simply nothing to find because everything we think, do and say is published in public! Our lives and activities are open books for anyone to read (assuming they have the reading comprehension of at least a 12 year old!)

Now is the time to educate the public. Now is the time to warn members. Now is the time to finish this fight...if we're lucky, before it can start.

Hmmmm.... what "fight" is he talking about? Is it possible that he has slipped here and revealed the PTB agenda, that they really are worried that people will wake up and actually do something to resist their controls and nefarious agenda? And that we, here at SOTT, are a threat to that evil agenda by helping people to wake up? Is that the "fight" they are concerned about and why "Jean" has been wound up and turned loose and given help?

OR, is that just Vincent Bridges in the background thinking about the "fight" in terms of his dark demons that he regularly "summons" that are supposed to bring on the "Cube of Space" otherwise known as the "New Jerusalem" (a little Zionazi side show, perhaps?)

Knowledge is free.

Yup, and we work very hard to make sure it stays that way. After all these years, we still publish everything for free!

We are anonymous.
We are legion.
We do not forgive abusive cults.
We do not forget the abused.
Expect us.

Right. Somehow, I don't think that the hacktivists of "Anonymous" are as stupid as "Jean" and Vincent Bridges may think they are.

_http://web.archive.org/web/20041128071202/http://www.survivingthefall.net/cas...
_http://www.secret-history-of-l­aura-knight-jadczyk.info/forum­/
_http://cassiopaeacult.tk/
_http://truthaction.org/forum/v­iewtopic.php?p=45046#45046
_http://what-do-you-all-know-ab­out.tk/forum1/message115499/pg­1/

Notice that the last 4 websites all belong to "Jean".

Poor "Jean" doesn't even realize that it is the fact that we are NOT a cult that keeps him safe from "crazed, fanatical minions" which are typical of most cults we've encountered.

 

[Al Today]

Knowledge is free.

Yup, and we work very hard to make sure it stays that way. After all these years, we still publish everything for free!

TRUTH

With the exception of the Work, in which there is no free lunch.

 

[Masamune]

I would like to mention that users TheDigitalFlood and WickedJohn666, who seem to be working together, both posted comments to my youtube channel. The comments were deleted and these users were banned but I still have records of them in my inbox. The comments are as follows:

Comment on your video: Laura Knight-Jadczyk 2001 NSPN radio interview part 1/10

cassiopaea MotherMindF@ckers

Comment on your video: Laura Knight-Jadczyk BBC Wales Radio Interview 2/12/07 Part 1/4

@noobenstein
Tell me about it:"The Jadczyk’s raised well over $100,000.00 to $150,000.00 from a bogus raffle to sell their home (AKA the Perseus Foundation) via PayPal then split with the money, leaving an unverified winner unknown to members but close to Laura. According to 2003 documents the home is still up for sale and a former devoted member lives there as caretaker showing the property. Laura is in legal trouble with fraud and embezzlement if she returns to the USA. "

 

[EGVG]

I would like to mention that users TheDigitalFlood and WickedJohn666, who seem to be working together, both posted comments to my youtube channel. The comments were deleted and these users were banned but I still have records of them in my inbox. The comments are as follows:

Comment on your video: Laura Knight-Jadczyk 2001 NSPN radio interview part 1/10

cassiopaea MotherMindF@ckers

Comment on your video: Laura Knight-Jadczyk BBC Wales Radio Interview 2/12/07 Part 1/4

@noobenstein
Tell me about it:"The Jadczyk’s raised well over $100,000.00 to $150,000.00 from a bogus raffle to sell their home (AKA the Perseus Foundation) via PayPal then split with the money, leaving an unverified winner unknown to members but close to Laura. According to 2003 documents the home is still up for sale and a former devoted member lives there as caretaker showing the property. Laura is in legal trouble with fraud and embezzlement if she returns to the USA. "

I have communicate also with WickedJohn666. He clearly has an anti-Laura agenda.

 

[Guardian]

Comment on your video: Laura Knight-Jadczyk BBC Wales Radio Interview 2/12/07 Part 1/4

@noobenstein
Tell me about it:"The Jadczyk’s raised well over $100,000.00 to $150,000.00 from a bogus raffle to sell their home (AKA the Perseus Foundation) via PayPal then split with the money, leaving an unverified winner unknown to members but close to Laura. According to 2003 documents the home is still up for sale and a former devoted member lives there as caretaker showing the property. Laura is in legal trouble with fraud and embezzlement if she returns to the USA. "

Oh for Pete's sake, have none of these people ever transferred Real Estate? It took me four months to close on a piece of property that was a cash sale and the owner lived 20 miles from me. Just the damn Title Binder took almost 3 months to issue.

It took 7 months to transfer a property in FLORIDA, with multiple complications, and the owner lived in FRANCE.

The terms of the Raffle were stated VERY clearly on the webpage. The drawing was January 16, 2003 and the Deed was filed August 22. 2003, which is actually pretty quick for a bunch of lawyers. The time it takes to complete ANY business transaction is directly related to how many attorneys are involved.

 

[Guardian]

I have communicate also with WickedJohn666. He clearly has an anti-Laura agenda.

Ya think?

_http://www.youtube.com/user/WickedJohn666#p/a/u/0/-Qt_Ya7AZjA
"VINCENT BRIDGES RULES! "

 

[EGVG]

A couple of months ago when I had a nervous break down and requested my account to be deleted I had this conversation with this individuals.

Me: Cassiopeia is not a cult

Leader sells followers made up mumbo jumbo to fund her lifestyle; encourages followers to persecute and harass former members who try to expose her: sounds like a cult to me.

WickedJohn666

Me: I didn't knew that, u have more info on that?

Google Vincent Bridges defamation. What SOTT and LKJ are doing is called "fair game" in CoS terms. Laura was arrested in Florida for attempted murder. This is why she ran away, moving the Perseus Foundation from New Port Richey, Florida to France, but not before ripping followers off for thousands of dollars. Then there's the telling people what to do based on a Ouija board....

WickedJohn666

1. Learn how a cult operates.

She said being a leader, she is. She has followers, who make donations.

She claims to defend family values, while she isolates its members.

She's is a Wolf in Sheep's Clothing... Take care.

Try these keywords "how to become a cult leader", read articles and videos and spot it!

TheDigitalFlood

Me: I know who she is, and I like her, she has an amazing body of work and I still don't get why you calling her a cult lider, Cassiopaea is NOT a cult! :D

What work? Channeling of Ouija board, it's a job? Sure, it must hurt his arm. Writer? All is plagiarism and SciFi. Psychotherapy? no better than Dianetics! The list goes on.

Because when there is a leader and followers, this is called a cult.

And when it hurts people, it is called a destructive cult.

What does this change for you? I ask you nothing, only the truth.

TheDigitalFlood

Did you google Vincent Bridges? Do you think its normal for a group to have a anti PR campaign against one member across the Intertoobs just because he fell out with Laura? That's not normal. That's the controlling actions of a paranoid leader. And that is also what will happen to anyone else that leaves on bad terms with Laura. Be careful and educate yourself.

WickedJohn666

Me: yes I did, but I just don't see the facts like you guys do, I respect Laura and I personally think she did what she had to do in order to continue with her Cassiopaea experiment. That's all, what I don't get is why are you trying to expose her?? She ever did something not nice to you?

Its doesn't matter if she never did anything against us personally. If she's running an org that has already proven to defraud people, her actions could hurt other people. LKJ history suggests she will use her org to lie, defraud, and character assassinate anyone who gets in her way. This is exactly how the LRH and the Church of Scientology started. EXACTLY. Then people started dying. So yeah we're concerned her org will turn into the menace CoS is and people could DIE.

WickedJohn666

Me: why would she do something like that? :(

Okay now you're pretending not to understand. She probably isn't thinking about hurting people deliberately. But she's set up this org to fund her lifestyle and she's already proven she will run off with people's money and spread lies if she feels threatened. To date she's never admitted she's wrong or apologized from ripping those people off in Florida. Hey we're only warning you of the danger of getting to involved in her org. Keep your mind open and be careful.

WickedJohn666

BTW we also know its possible you're collecting info to pass on to Laura because people like that have screwed over so many she's probably thinking we're Vincent Bridges or another sucker. If that's the case ask yourself why someone would do that.

WickedJohn666

Me: I'm not passing any info to anyone. Thanks for the warning, I should be more carefull. I do want to cut strings with the Cassiopaea group, just because I feel it's time for me to be my own person, I feel such a strong emotional conection with the forum members, that sometimes I just want to delete my account. To risky for me to get more involve!! I wouldn't put my hands in the fire for anyone.... (Whooops guess I lied....)

Its understandable you feel connected to people you hang out with online. Maybe you should take a break and hang with familiy and friends IRL for a while who are not into SOTT/LKJ and see how you feel.

WickedJohn666

Please bare in mind I was an emotional mess I'm not as stable as I wish I was and also that I was baiting him. Just sharing for the sake of research on how this guys or guy operates.