"Life Without Bread"

Thank you so much for your The List post (and the following ones as well) Atreides,
I had been feeling low and anxious yesterday and your posts brought forth refreshing outbursts of sincere joyful lovely laughter. Felt as cleansing as an EE session.

Very well spoken, wise, compassionate, clever, funny and useful essay!

I'm a fan!!

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Mariama said:
I am just wondering whether I will be able to find the right pork here in The Netherlands. We have our pig hotels (these large pig factories) over here and little space.
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Hi Mariama,

Take a look at this site and see if you can find one close-by: _http://www.ekoplaza.nl/
You can get pork chops (riblap) there (and ghee too, by the way). But be aware of nitrates in some products and other ingredients, always read the label. Best would be to search for an organic butcher (biologische slagerij) in your neighborhood. That shouldn't be hard to find, I think. Fortunately, the pork products here in the Netherlands contain a very nice fatty layer, so that won't be a problem! Usually you can also order lard (reuzel) from the butcher, too.

Grass-fed meat, unfortunately, is expensive. I ordered once from here: _http://www.puregrazefoods.nl/welkom.html
They don't sell pork yet, but they're working on it.

If you find any nice places yourself, lemme know! Good luck. If you still can't find any sources nearby, tell me, and perhaps I can help with the searching.
 
Laura said:
So, Laurentian, just work on getting better, stay in touch, and don't make decisions when YOU are not in control.
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I really hope that you listen to this, Laurentien. You CAN change things, people CAN know you, etc. It is up to you, of course. But one step at a time. When your health gets better, you might discover a whole new world, a whole new way of thinking. This is what we were trying to convey to you, but with your current thinking your Predator decided to play a nasty trick on you. Who is in charge? I hope You can be, with lots of patience, less self-hatred and less running away from yourself (and the right diet for you!).
 
luke wilson said:
anart said:
luke wilson said:
Fruits, vegetables like a salad, are this bad for you? Why?
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Have you read the whole thread, Luke?
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Bits and bobs. 120 pages is daunting. Probably run a search.
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No, READ THE WHOLE THREAD! Don't do a thing about changing your diet until you do. Plus read the more recent Cs sessions on the topic.
 
luke wilson said:
Bits and bobs. 120 pages is daunting. Probably run a search.
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Your question is answered in the thread. At least be externally considerate enough to do the work yourself of reading the entire thread before asking others to answer your questions. Laura is absolutely right - if you don't read the whole thread, just don't make any changes - doing so with no knowledge is useless.
 
anart said:
luke wilson said:
Bits and bobs. 120 pages is daunting. Probably run a search.
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Your question is answered in the thread. At least be externally considerate enough to do the work yourself of reading the entire thread before asking others to answer your questions. Laura is absolutely right - if you don't read the whole thread, just don't make any changes - doing so with no knowledge is useless.
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Ok, thanks for the advice. I will set some time off to read this WHOLE thread. Between all the threads in this section, which are must read to gain a good basic understanding on diet?
 
truth seeker said:
SolarMother said:
I continue on the Quest for the Holy Grail Chop! I can find nothing like this picture. This is actually from a pasture-fed pig??
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I saw some just like this as well last Sunday at the farmer's market. Believe it or not, they do exist! :)
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Do you know if the pig was fed any grains at all? I keep running into pig farmers (at farmers markets and by email inquiry) who are saying that their pigs need a small amount of grain along with being pasture fed in order to be nourished and to have the fat cover/marbling that they have.

My question to the forum is, will this be harmful (to eat pork fed a small amount of 'organic' grains) if I cannot find pasture fed pork here or online?This is what US Wellness Meats replied to my inquiry about pasture fed pork (I have to assume that it may not be true.)

The only source of grass-fed pork in the USA is www.cawcawcreek.com You will have to inquire about pork chop wishes.

I am looking into caw-caw. I have found a handful of other farms where the pigs are pasture fed only, but always the pigs are butchered elsewhere and the fat is trimmed. I have made about 15 inquiries.
 
SolarMother said:
My question to the forum is, will this be harmful (to eat pork fed a small amount of 'organic' grains) if I cannot find pasture fed pork here or online?This is what US Wellness Meats replied to my inquiry about pasture fed pork (I have to assume that it may not be true.)
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I think the less grain they eat the better, but you have to do the best with what you can find/afford.
If you know the animals are eating grain, the main problem is the balance between omega 3 and omega 6 fatty acids. The grain fed ones will have more omega 6 (bad) than omega 3 (good). But if they've only eaten a small amount of grain (for say a month or so out of there full life) they'll probably still have a good balance.
The best option is to take omega 3 fish oil with the meal to help balance the omega 6 out.
 
RedFox said:
SolarMother said:
My question to the forum is, will this be harmful (to eat pork fed a small amount of 'organic' grains) if I cannot find pasture fed pork here or online?This is what US Wellness Meats replied to my inquiry about pasture fed pork (I have to assume that it may not be true.)
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I think the less grain they eat the better, but you have to do the best with what you can find/afford.
If you know the animals are eating grain, the main problem is the balance between omega 3 and omega 6 fatty acids. The grain fed ones will have more omega 6 (bad) than omega 3 (good). But if they've only eaten a small amount of grain (for say a month or so out of there full life) they'll probably still have a good balance.
The best option is to take omega 3 fish oil with the meal to help balance the omega 6 out.
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I agree with RedFox. I have also been told the same thing by farmers and also wondered like someone in another thread "What did they eat before agriculture?". As with all things in this world, there are a lot of misinformed people who have good intentions so it's good that you continue to research. Do the best with what you can find and in the meantime, keep an eye out for other sources.
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mangalitsa

This pig was the original, natural pig in Europe. It is woolen and has such a thick layer of fat (insulation against cold) that it can be held on the pasture even in winter. It is even used to sanitize land which has been destroyed by floods or other natural forces. It's temper is very gentle, and you can keep the males together with the females and offspring.

Now get this: In the last century, 'they' have imported and introduced a naked, pink, lean pig from England, which you can't keep outside in winter, which is aggressive (you have to separate the males out, otherwise they will kill the offspring), and which has completely displaced the original, old Mangalitsa race. Today this new lean race is kept imprisoned, fed with starches from seeds (the EU even forbids feeding their natural food to them, like pasture and food leftovers), and is then in turn fed to the human masses.

How did 'they' manage to pull this off??

Luckily I've found a butcher who sells Mangalitsa bacon. And I can tell you, it's 90% up to 100% visible fat.
 
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