London Olympics 2012

I guess it depends on you default stance. My default stance is that a cigar is a cigar until proven otherwise. All evidence dictated it was a time to wave, as everyone else was doing. Regarding people who are not normal (not quite sure where that came in, but I'll play along), even abnormal people try to conform, to fit in. One would really need to see a pattern of specific aberrant actions before one could make any predictions as to their behaviour. Otherwise, it makes sense to expect standard behaviour.

When one's default expectation is for something other than standard, it often indicates a form of program and worthy of examination. Perhaps it is a defense mechanism to prevent getting disappointed or even wounded.

Gonzo
 
I meant that if we could positively identify him as "normal", then yes, it would be extremely unlikely to be anything else than a somewhat careless wave.

But say on the other hand you knew for sure this guy was a psychopath or under some form of mind control, would you then still assume his wave to be accidental/coincidence?

Generally I'd agree it would be wrong to assume a random person would be anything other than "normal", but in a huge, scripted event like this? In the VIP section with royals? I don't know, but I'd expect the likelihood of something else going on to increase, perhaps significantly.

Based on the traits of "elite persons" and the horrible, distorted lies constantly being perpetuated by the media "I believe" something else was going on here. But as I came to see, I can't even know to which degree that would be the case, so no definite conclusions should be made. It's basically just an "educated" hunch. And either way it's just a small event in one of many big shows, so it's not worth spending much energy on. Even if my belief was proven right it'd still just mean that the perps were up to their usual tricks. Ie. nothing new.
 
If it passed through your mind that the guy was giving a Nazi salute it could have been written as: "I was watching this and it could have been interpreted by some that he was trying to slide in a Nazi salute there but since we don't know enough about the guy or his history, hard to say." That would have been as accurate an observation as you could have made without having a lot more data.

Instead, you began your post with:

I was expecting a full blown ritual, laden with symbolism, and boy was I not disappointed!

And then presented a still photo of the guy who was waving with his arm frozen at full forward extension with no explanation that this was a wave and not a salute.

I mean, so nice of you to tell us what we were supposed to be seeing...
 
Laura said:
If it passed through your mind that the guy was giving a Nazi salute it could have been written as: "I was watching this and it could have been interpreted by some that he was trying to slide in a Nazi salute there but since we don't know enough about the guy or his history, hard to say." That would have been as accurate an observation as you could have made without having a lot more data.

Instead, you began your post with:

I was expecting a full blown ritual, laden with symbolism, and boy was I not disappointed!

And then presented a still photo of the guy who was waving with his arm frozen at full forward extension with no explanation that this was a wave and not a salute.

I mean, so nice of you to tell us what we were supposed to be seeing...

Are you suggesting I knew it was a wave and tried to deceive you?

If not I think it's more than explained why I wrote what I did. And I get your point, but I think a television production like this restacks the cards a little bit. This kind of subliminal messaging is exactly what I expect from that front.

I might very well be wrong, but I don't think it's either outrageous, preemptive or dishonest to make that interpretation.

Muxel said:
Herr Nimrod, do you have a spiritual quest?

Yes.
 
I think the point is that, not only did you have filters on that let to assumptions, you then provided your lens for everyone to view through. You primed the pump, so to speak, transferring your filters to others.

Can you see how your expectation of seeing ritual and symbolism disabled your objectivity? And, if so, then can you see how you passed your filter along to others, to lead them to see what you were seeing?

If you are genuinely here to work on yourself like everyone else on the forum, you will make attempts to see yourself as others see you, warts and all. You will try to see where dysfunctional aspects of your mind try to rationalize their behaviour out of self preservation. You will endeavour to find the source of these dysfunctions to ultimately become free of them. This, of course, requires letting go of your ego, dropping your defenses and allowing painful realizations about how you, like everyone else, lie to yourself. It takes a lot of insight and feedback, not to mention blood,sweat and tears, if we are to live a more truthful existence.

Gonzo
 
First off, sincere apologies for providing a link that was unviewable by the forum. I had no idea a straightforward link to the BBC site would not be viewable outside the UK. The link was simply to the BBC coverage of the opening ceremony, uncut, unadorned, and with commentary (seemingly necessary to avoid some of the crazier misunderstandings and subsequent yards of spilt ink). Unfortunately the footage does not seem to be elsewhere, such as Youtube. I'm disappointed, because seeing the ceremony itself is the simplest rebuttal to the idea this event was laced with dark 'Illuminati' symbolism. It is painful that the event has given rise to memes such as the 'Nazi salute'.

As my accompanying comments referred to an unviewable link they caused understandable puzzlement. Reprehensible of me not to check back sooner and straighten this out.

I've searched for alternatives to the 'missing link', and only found scraps. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tm7NWsxRRc provides the run-in to the moment when the sadly unviewable link would otherwise start. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCskBGHk7N0 is the sound track to the opening section that follows shortly afterward. Gives an idea of the excitement and uplift the event aspired to. (The photo montage of stills doesn't really begin to do justice - and I see all sorts of misinterpretations hovering over the horizon.)

Still, I guess part of the education here is if you've got those magic conspiracy-tinted spectacles on you'll never be disappointed at what you can see, and the rest of us better believe it:

This act was frighteningly sinister. A dark, brown atmosphere. A huge sun in the middle ascending while people coming from the dust celebrates it. Heartbeat music, church bells. A woman singing a song about death and the Lord.

I heartily wish I could provide the dynamic contemporary dance visuals to this 'frighteningly sinister act'. (In reality, about the 7/7 event, bereavement, and the pain of beloved people passing over.) But here is the music herrnimrod is referring to, Abide With Me sung by Emeli Sande, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QlefxjbA9U.

Emotionally, rationally, any way you want to cut it, is this likely to be music to a frighteningly sinister act? If yes, fast forward to a discussion about Nazi salutes.
 
Rik Clay's catalogue of 2012 fears, the whole leaky security bit, all groundless, the London 2012 Olympics have come and gone amidst a welter of good vibes. High five!

High five!?
 
Be said:
Rik Clay's catalogue of 2012 fears, the whole leaky security bit, all groundless, the London 2012 Olympics have come and gone amidst a welter of good vibes. High five!

High five!?

Well, they'll probably just say; see guys, we were right to put so much emphasis on security, they didn't attack us.

So, high nothin'.
 
JayMark said:
Be said:
Rik Clay's catalogue of 2012 fears, the whole leaky security bit, all groundless, the London 2012 Olympics have come and gone amidst a welter of good vibes. High five!

High five!?

Well, they'll probably just say; see guys, we were right to put so much emphasis on security, they didn't attack us.

So, high nothin'.

So all the people who predicted an invasion during the final ceremony now they are telling that this invasion had not happened because THEY talked about it. That makes me laugh. :lol2:
 
loreta said:
JayMark said:
Be said:
Rik Clay's catalogue of 2012 fears, the whole leaky security bit, all groundless, the London 2012 Olympics have come and gone amidst a welter of good vibes. High five!

High five!?

Well, they'll probably just say; see guys, we were right to put so much emphasis on security, they didn't attack us.

So, high nothin'.

So all the people who predicted an invasion during the final ceremony now they are telling that this invasion had not happened because THEY talked about it. That makes me laugh. :lol2:

Exactly.

Wishful thinking at it's best.
 
Did anyone see the slight esoteric symbolism in the closing ceremony?
There was the pyramid (with everyone lying down in-front of it) as well as what looked like the Ray of Creation at the opposite end of the stage. It was the flame holder...thing.
 
Timey said:
Did anyone see the slight esoteric symbolism in the closing ceremony?
There was the pyramid (with everyone lying down in-front of it) as well as what looked like the Ray of Creation at the opposite end of the stage. It was the flame holder...thing.

I didn't see much of the olympics as a matter of fact.

For me the thought of constantly training full-time on a particular discipline in order to be the best in the world is absolutely grotesque. But I'm talking for myself here.

As far as symbolism is concerned, what you said reminded me of the all-seeing eye on top of the pyramid and perhaps slaves being hypnotized by it (flame). Just my initial thought.

Having a picture or media would help.

Peace.
 
loreta said:
JayMark said:
Well, they'll probably just say; see guys, we were right to put so much emphasis on security, they didn't attack us.

So all the people who predicted an invasion during the final ceremony now they are telling that this invasion had not happened because THEY talked about it. That makes me laugh. :lol2:

You guys sound a bit mixed up. What sort of attack or invasion are you thinking about? False flag terrorist? Or false flag alien? Genuine terrorist, or genuine alien?
JayMark said:
Well, they'll probably just say; see guys, we were right to put so much emphasis on security, they didn't attack us.

Who are all these theys?
Loreta said:
So all the people who predicted an invasion during the final ceremony now they are telling that this invasion had not happened because THEY talked about it. That makes me laugh.
JayMark said:
Exactly.

Wishful thinking at it's best.

So perhaps you can tell us why an invasion didn't take place, in your opinions?
JayMark said:
So, high nothin'.

Well I'm kind of rolling on the floor laughing too. But why so dour? Are you disappointed there was not more obvious NWO symbolism at the Olympic ceremonies? Disappointed at the expressions of high culture on evidence? Or disappointed that a major attack of some description didn't take place?

High four?
 
At least I have Richard Dolan [UFOs and the National Security State, 2 vols, brilliant] on my side in this matter of bemusement and relief at the absence of blatant NWO symbolism, and worse, a Major Event at the London 2012 Olympics:
But the reason I am writing about the Olympics...is because from the viewpoint of what we like to call the alternative media, nothing happened.

And what was supposed to happen, you may ask? Well, unless you have had your head glued to mainstream news for the last four years, you have heard some of the predictions, repeated with variations from countless so-called “inside sources,” that there was supposed to be a Major Event during the 2012 Olympics.

RD traces much of the hoopla back to a single source, Rik Clay:
I admit I haven’t researched every aspect of this, but it appears to have derived from the late Rik Clay, and then was grafted onto the concept of the alleged Project Blue Beam, or other False Flag ideas.

(Rik was the one who first blew the whistle on the ZION/2012 logo, odd goings-on at previous olympics, endless numerological tie-ins. He also saw a focus around bloodline issues to do with Princes William and Harry, Diana's sons. Rik is an enigma. Was.)
Richard Dolan said:
Simply put, the 2012 Olympics were supposed to feature a phony alien invasion that was designed to scare the hell out of you so that you would acquiesce into accepting an overt global fascism. The primary day for this apparently was supposed to be Saturday, August 4. A great holographic display of an ET mothership (or, depending on your variation in this, Jesus, Satan, or whomever) was supposed to appear and, one supposes, people were simply going to check their brains and accept it all.

I have always thought this idea to be untenable. The false alien invasion meme is a joke, always has been. Try imagine the logistics of pulling something like that off. If you thought 9/11 was a big one, that’s nothing compared with this. I discussed some of my objections to such a Project Blue Beam scenario here, when (once again) such predictions were running rampant and leading people in circles.

Now, it’s not that there aren’t false flag events. Anyone who has read or listened to me in the past knows that I believe these things happen. So, regarding the Olympics, there were a few more realistic scenarios offered, such as a false “terrorist” attack occurring, something really big, like on the order of 9/11, which would further cement our growing global nastiness. On the face of it, I could believe something like that, so long as there is actual evidence supporting it, which in this case there was not.

Did RD not read the concerns about G4S security (private security firm, replacing the police) reported by an undercover reporter on Bristol Community Radio, and featured on SOTT? The talk was of predator drones patrolling London skies; 100,000 troops being spirited into the country via Woolwich barracks, including American regular army, German and European troops; 200,000 45-person body bags being ordered in; privatisation of Olympics security discussed in the context of private companies such as ICTS and Verint Systems allegedly facilitating or carrying out false flag terrorism themselves for private profit. (A la 1972 Munich Olympics attack. Or Mossad active in Iraq under Jordanian cover. Or Operation Gladio in Bologna.) Were G4S planning something similar?

All that suspicious data conditioned wised-up insiders to watch alertly. Didn't it? Then the Games go off without a hitch. Not only that, the opening and closing ceremonies were unexpectedly wonderful and joyful occasions. But such was the atmosphere of expectation that had been created, some could only see Nazi salutes. Never mind. Richard goes on:
I know that I am not the only person who finds all these predictions beyond annoying. It’s one thing to want to garner some headlines and love ... but it’s another thing to pollute a field that, quite frankly, can’t take any more pollution than it already has. And it’s another thing, moreover, to write predictive pieces that are inevitably wrong, that waste the time of researchers who are inevitably asked to chime in on such ridiculous assertions, and which (not least of which) create a culture of fear on the one hand and false hope on the other.

He might not want to be delving into earlier parts of this thread in too much of a hurry.
No one is served by these predictions except those who make them. They are, literally, self-serving. And even that is only in the short-term. For in the long run, can the purveyors of such useless predictions really be said to benefit? They harm the community they claim to inform and they harm their reputation. Ultimately, I believe, they harm themselves at a deeper level. You can’t be the boy who cries wolf year after year without it taking a toll on you.

. . . After all, no one is infallible. We all make mistakes. Caution and prudence in all matters is a good thing, not a bad thing. Especially in making predictions, which have become the bane of the alternative community and alternative media.

The ramp up to the Olympics was bad enough. We are already besieged by predictions for December 21, 2012, and more will be coming to a website near you. My advice: keep your head firmly fastened to your neck.

(Predictions the bane of the alternative media: http://www.keyholepublishing.com/kp1/2012/08/14/predictions/ )

Which says everything and nothing. These are edgy times. Enough shadows to jump at, without inventing our own.
 
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