Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 - Missing Plane

I am watching CNN right now and they are saying US officials at the White House are saying it is very likely at the bottom of the Indian Ocean. *sigh* :huh: I just want to roll my eyes.....
 
Yozilla said:
P.S. Saudi Arabia is to close borders to Qatar so i wonder if something is going on there...

P.S.2 Uf Those allegedly two Iranians with stolen passports - maybe crush plane somewhere in KSA and to blame Iran for that :huh:

And with that Russian-Iranan-Chinese alliance wold be jeopardised due to large number of Chinese passengers?

Oh I so hope that I am totally wrong!

Y
 
Iron said:
mkrnhr said:
My very hypothetical line of thinking at the moment is that if they were sure the plane has disappeared for ever, they would have come out with a cover story already with some fake debris planted somewhere. It seems however that they are waiting for the possibility of a reappearance, after which a cover story would be more easily improvised according to the circumstances. Officials wouldn't know more than what their owners allow them to know.

I agree that this seems to be the case. They may have a bit more information than us, but most of the officials seem to be kinda in the dark about what really happened.

Given that all electronic communication systems work on handshaking for each contact and NSA's claim of total information control ( even at the hardware driver level) , it is quite possible that pentagon has lot more information than they claim.

In this case, US was very slow ( or non committal even today) and it is embarrassing for Malaysian govt. to admit they have no clues after a week and begging other governments for support. It is either no booty available for US to get involved or they have orders not to get involved. but the MSM is going frenzy over it. It looks US is waiting for some thing to jump on.

The more time passes, it becomes more difficult for Malaysian government to show face. Mean while MSM is promoting all these distracting stories of cell phone rings, passport etc. as if they want people to relate to 911. If the ring really came from cell phone, can't they find the location where ring came from ?. It is hard to believe these stories in this age. We don't know what type of arm twisting going on behind the scenes or US has nothing to benefit from the situation.
 
Pashalis said:
I'm just wondering why the US and their "highest officials", up to the Obama administration and the Pentagon, are so "interested in helping"?

Yes there were 3 passengers from the US on the plane, but I'm wondering if there might be other reasons then just helping, for why the US is so on top of solving this "mystery" now?

Those are two very good questions that need to be explored further. Why wait "day's" to do something constructive in helping, other than lip service? Why all the false leads and driving the Families and love ones to desperate melt downs over conflicting information?

As noted earlier, the U.S. and Malaysian Military are involved in Joint Military Drills and exercises and there's a top Military Installation on the Island of Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean. It's not like the U.S. has to deploy ships from San Diego, California, half way around the World, they're a stone throw away?

_http://abcnews.go.com/International/malaysia-airliner-pinging-indication-crashed-indian-ocean/story?id=22894802&singlePage=true

U.S. officials said earlier that they have an "indication" the missing Malaysia Airlines jetliner may have crashed in the Indian Ocean and is moving the USS Kidd to the area to begin searching. (Comment - That's convenient! )

It's not clear what the indication was, but senior administration officials told ABC News the missing Malaysian flight continued to "ping" a satellite on an hourly basis after it lost contact with radar. The Boeing 777 jetliners are equipped with what is called the Airplane Health Management system in which they ping a satellite every hour. The number of pings would indicate how long the plane stayed aloft.

It's not clear, however, whether the satellite pings also indicate the plane's location.

The new information has greatly expanded the potential search area into the Indian Ocean.

"We have an indication the plane went down in the Indian Ocean," the senior Pentagon official said.

Investigators also said today that U.S. officials gave them reasons to keep searching the waters west of Malaysia, far from the flight path of the Malaysia Airlines plane.

Malaysian Defense Minister Hishammuddin Hussein said that the search’s “main focus has always been in the South China Sea,” which is east of Malaysia and along the plane’s route from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing.



I'm slowly coming to the conclusion, that this Malaysian Airline disappearance was a staged event, planned and orchestrated by the U.S. highest officials, the White House and the Pentagon? I feel there's a link to what's going on in Ukraine. I can only pray - that the passengers - are alive and safe.

Timing is everything in Warfare. The plane in question had undergone a routine Inspection in Feb. 2014. The plane could have been outfitted to help in it's disappearance and lack of signal or enhanced with a cloaking device or any other requirement to pull off the event. Chances are that it was remotely controlled from a secondary outside source and guided to an unknown destination? As for the passenger's - Gawd only knows.

As time increased with desperate Families demanding answers to simple questions and Authorities running around in circles, in false claims and dead ends, a report surfaced that a Military source had tracked the plane flying low on radar, having made a U-turn and gone 200 miles in the opposite direction, yet did nothing on their end to confirm the information. A Malaysian Military officer then denied the report or having issued any type of statement. I sense, the U.S. was directly involved in this fiasco for at least two reasons, one - to add more chaos and confusion to the situation and two - to make the Malaysian Military look foolish and incompetent. Insert - Big Brother U.S. to the rescue, to help their Military and further manipulate the situation to their agenda.

The bottom line, to get U.S. Carrier Ships in the South China Sea.

_http://www.navy.mil/submit/display.asp?story_id=79592
Release Date: 3/11/2014 - The Arleigh Burke-class guided-missile destroyer USS Kidd (DDG 100) was one of the first responders in the search for Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 that was lost sometime March 8, 2014.

The Kidd's crew is utilizing all capabilities and assets to assist in the search of MH370. The ambiguity of the potential crash site makes the area to be searched expansive but the two MH-60R helicopters deployed on Kidd provide a much improved search capability than ships alone.

"Kidd's ability to respond so quickly is a testament to the importance of the U.S. Navy's presence in this vital region," said Lt. Cmdr. Eli Marshall, Helicopter Maritime Strike Squadron (HSM) 78's air detachment officer in charge.

It is just fortunate we were already operating in the South China Sea, allowing us to get on station in a timely manner."

_http://www.military.com/daily-news/2014/03/11/uss-kidd-joins-search-for-missing-jetliner.html

The U.S. has dispatched a second destroyer to assist with the search efforts for the missing Malaysian Airlines Boeing 777.

The USS Kidd, an Arleigh Burke-class guided missile destroyer, joined the USS Pinckney in the search effort, according to the U.S. 7th Fleet. Both destroyers were conducting training in the South China Sea when they were dispatched to aid the search.

Both are equipped with MH-60R Seahawk helicopters, which have the capability to conduct night searches using Forward Looking Infra-red cameras, according to a 7th Fleet release.

The Navy also dispatched the USNS John Ericcson, a Military Sealift Command underway replenishment oiler. This will "ensure Pinckney and its helicopters can maximize their time on station," Marks said.

(Comment: China backs Russia and President Putin in the Ukraine- Crimera crises. China is also one of five Countries involved in Putin's BRICS Nations

Current events in Ukraine
_http://washingtonexaminer.com/john-kerry-russia-has-until-monday-to-reverse-course-in-ukraine/article/2545610

Secretary of State John Kerry warned of serious repercussions for Russia on Monday if last-ditch talks over the weekend to resolve the crisis in Ukraine failed to persuade Moscow to soften its stance.

Kerry will travel to London for a Friday meeting with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov ahead of a Sunday referendum vote in the Crimea region to secede from Ukraine and join the Russian Federation

U.S. and European officials argue that Moscow is orchestrating the referendum and waging an intimidation campaign with thousands of Russian troops controlling the region. If Russian-backed lawmakers in Crimea go through with the Sunday referendum, Kerry said the U.S. and its European allies will not recognize it as legitimate under international law.

The U.S. and Europe on Monday would then unite to impose sanctions on Russia, Kerry told a Senate Appropriations subcommittee Thursday during a hearing on the State Department's budget.

“There will be a response of some kind to the referendum itself,” Kerry said. “If there is no sign [from Russia] of any capacity to respond to this issue ... there will be a very serious series of steps on Monday.”

“Our hope is to have Russia join in respecting international law. ... There is no justification, no legality to this referendum that is taking place,” he said. “The hope is that reason will prevail but there is no guarantee of that.”

Sen. Lindsey Graham, a South Carolina Republican and a top critic of President Obama's foreign policy, asked what the administration would do if Russian forces advance farther into the eastern area of Ukraine, and the new government in Kiev asks the U.S. for weapons to fight the Russians.

Kerry responded carefully, saying “we have contingencies – we are talking through various options that may or may not be available.”

(Comment: One of the options, I would guess, is the U.S. starting a War with Russia? With the U.S. also now positioned in the China South Sea, due to a mysterious missing Malaysian Flight, China would have the U.S. guided missile destroyers and equipped with MH-60R Seahawk helicopters on it's borders, within firing range, if China try's to assist Russia? )

How do explain something like that to the Families of the missing passengers of Flight 370?
 
First of all my heart goes out to all of the families involved - this must be agonizing not knowing where your friends/family members are.

My take on this whole thing is that from the very start of this scenario there seems to be an amazing amount of confusion between all parties "concerned". If this is a "planned" event the PTB may have many scenarios planned and are waiting for another set of "pieces to be in place" before we hear of the official "story-line" once all "concerned parties" get their "backstory" locked down.

There are too many "dangling participles" at this point. It seems as if each scenario that I can come up with has a major issue with the admission of all agencies alphabet or otherwise worldwide that are involved of exactly what the real data and facts are. I am sure that pretty much all involved have some if not all of this "secure" data on hand and revealing this information would compromise the scope of exactly who,what, how and why this data is always being "collected" not to mention who "owns" the information regardless of what the real scenario was.

This is a major shipping lane for worldwide distribution of goods so it has to be heavily "monitored" by not only underwater but also surface and air reconnaissance from many sources.

Jeffery
 
Hi everyone,

I haven't seen anything on the missing flight yet. Did i miss the thread? Anyway, "conspiracy theories" abound! Does anyone have any news, opinions, theories or conjectures on the subject?

This was posted on my CIABook page today..........

have you seen this:
"Four days after the missing flight MH370 a patent is approved
by the Patent Office
4 of the 5 Patent holders are Chinese employees of Freescale Semiconductor of Austin TX.
Patent is divided up on 20% increments to 5 holders.
Peidong Wang, Suzhou, China, (20%)
Zhijun Chen, Suzhou, China, (20%)
Zhihong Cheng, Suzhou, China, (20%)
Li Ying, Suzhou, China, (20%)
Freescale Semiconductor (20%)
If a patent holder dies, then the remaining holders
equally share the dividends of the deceased if not
disputed in a will.
If 4 of the 5 dies, then the remaining 1 Patent holder
gets 100% of the wealth of the patent.
That remaining live Patent holder is Freescale Semiconductor.
Who owns Freescale Semiconductor ??
Jacob Rothschild through Blackstone who owns Freescale.
Here is your motive for the missing Beijing plane.
As all 4 Chinese members of the Patent were
passengers on the missing plane.
Patent holders can alter the proceeds legally by
passing wealth to their heirs. However, they cannot
do so until the Patent is approved. So when the plane
went missing, the patent had not been approved.
Thus, Rothschild gets 100% of Patent once Patent
holders declared deceased.

Any theories on this would be great. Thanks guys. :)

"The use of 'conspiracy theory' as a derogatory -- as an epithet almost -- is something the propagandists have perfected over the decades, and it's a useful tool for eliminating articulate dissent and other points of view, and information that might be inconvenient for a policy agenda." - Chris Sanders, Oil, Smoke & Mirrors
 
Possibly it's nothing but the Malaysia airlines logo:

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...is strikingly resemblant to those "swallows" featured in various crop circles. Perhaps the whole thing will turn out even "bigger" than it appears to be now.

Interesting info about this patent. It seems to have appeared 2 days ago on GLP but now has been removed. Any sources confirming this facts?
 
Hi RevNowWhileWeCan,

As you can now see (since your post was merged) there is a topic already established with active discussion. The top menu of this Forum has a 'Search' button that can locate existing topics and threads so you can post new info into existing threads to keep things organized.

As for the content of your post...although "intriguing"...(a simple Google search reveals) does not hold up to fact checking on a couple of major points as noted by an 'anonymous' comment written here:

_http://normanhooben.blogspot.com/2014/03/malaysian-airlines-flight-mh370.html
Anonymous said... While I do not question the curiosity of the entire event, and I don't necessarily rule out foul play, this particular post has some inaccuracies. While there is a patent on their name, they are the only ones listed as inventors with Freescale as the Asignee. This is the standard for pretty much any patent that for an invention done under a company's time/premises/while employed. Even though you are the inventor, the corporation owns the patent and may choose to award you a monetary amount or not. The pattent can be found here:

_http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-bool.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&co1=AND&d=PTXT&s1=%22Freescale+Semiconductor%22&OS=%22Freescale+Semiconductor%22&RS=%22Freescale+Semiconductor%22

The part of the story that is shotty, is that none of the inventors were on-board the plane or at least listed on the passenger manifest found here:

_http://www.malaysiaairlines.com/content/dam/mas/master/en/pdf/Malaysia%20Airlines%20Flight%20MH%20370%20Passenger%20Manifest_Nationality.pdf

While a great story, doesn't hold water.

So while the Freescale and Rothschild angles are of note (IMO - In My Opinion), your re-post with no source or fact checking amounts to noise.
 
I do find it interesting that so many of the passengers where employees from Freescale.

_http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/10/us-malaysia-airlines-freescale-analysis-idUSBREA291UB20140310
(Reuters) - The loss of 20 key Freescale Semiconductor (FSL.N) employees in the disappearance of a Malaysian airliner on Saturday raises questions about whether the company should have allowed so many of them to board the same plane, but security experts said that at big corporations it's hard to avoid. The disappearance of Malaysia Airlines' (MASM.KL) Flight MH370 about an hour into its journey to Beijing remained a mystery on Monday as a search orchestrated by 10 countries failed to find traces of the plane or the 239 people on board.It was a blow to Austin, Texas-based Freescale. The vanished employees were engineers or specialists involved in projects to streamline and cut costs at key manufacturing facilities in China and Malaysia.
...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freescale_Semiconductor

...

On September 15, 2006, Freescale agreed to a $17.6 billion buyout by a consortium led by Blackstone Group and its co-investors, Carlyle Group, TPG Capital, and Permira.[20] The buyout offer was accepted on November 13, 2006 following a vote by company shareholders. The purchase, which closed on December 1, 2006, was the largest private buyout of a technology company until the Dell buyout of 2013 and is one of the ten largest buyouts of all time.[21]


...

Unfortunately, GLP and AboveTopSecret forums are 'off and running' creating noise.
 
Latest from CNN:

A Reuters report says military radar data suggest that missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 was "deliberately flown hundreds of miles off course" toward India's Andaman Islands, "heightening suspicions of foul play among investigators."

The Malaysian government says it cannot confirm the report.

The report cites unnamed sources and does not say which nation's military radar information is the basis for the report.

The Reuters story comes as the search area for the missing plane has widened again. After starting in the sea between Malaysia and Vietnam, the plane's last confirmed location, efforts are now expanding west into the vastness of the Indian Ocean. The USS Kidd, a destroyer from the U.S. Pacific Fleet, is being moved into the Indian Ocean to aid in the search, Cmdr. William Marks of the U.S. 7th Fleet says.
 
Laura said:
Latest from CNN:

A Reuters report says military radar data suggest that missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 was "deliberately flown hundreds of miles off course" toward India's Andaman Islands, "heightening suspicions of foul play among investigators."

After sleeping on this last night. . .(ok, and really from the beginning of this drama for me anyway) I believe that the passenger list is the key to this mystery.
The employees of Freescale are a redherring but a bonus for those that targeted this flight.
There has to be a connection between several of the other passengers - 2 or 3 people - with links to China, Malasyia, the United States, Japan, Korea. I will seek out complete list of passengers and try to check their backgrounds as much as I can.

I think that Laura's quote from Reuters above is key. India makes sense because right now they are not having any super major conflict with any of the other surrounding nations and it looks close enough to be within "fuel range" for this flight.

I personally do not think that the passengers are in any danger but there are people on board that may have been the targets for an "assassination" attempt with this flight.

Looks as if I have my homework assignment for this afternoon!

Jeffery
 
angelburst29 said:
Pashalis said:
I'm just wondering why the US and their "highest officials", up to the Obama administration and the Pentagon, are so "interested in helping"?


As noted earlier, the U.S. and Malaysian Military are involved in Joint Military Drills and exercises and there's a top Military Installation on the Island of Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean. It's not like the U.S. has to deploy ships from San Diego, California, half way around the World, they're a stone throw away?



U.S. officials said earlier that they have an "indication" the missing Malaysia Airlines jetliner may have crashed in the Indian Ocean and is moving the USS Kidd to the area to begin searching. (Comment - That's convenient! )


"We have an indication the plane went down in the Indian Ocean," the senior Pentagon official said.

"Kidd's ability to respond so quickly is a testament to the importance of the U.S. Navy's presence in this vital region," said Lt. Cmdr. Eli Marshall, Helicopter Maritime Strike Squadron (HSM) 78's air detachment officer in charge.

It is just fortunate we were already operating in the South China Sea, allowing us to get on station in a timely manner."

Joint Military Drills . That to me says a lot. Anytime anything really awful happens, there is almost always some drill being done. This explains the U.S. response. It is all part of a plan for the war game of chess.

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My Son served on the USS Pinckney, and shot Tomahawk Missiles. I would think they would be sending in Hospital ships for recovery....but Destroyers...has to be Military actions to come, yeah.
 
Sorcha Faal, ever the bizzy-bee disinfo/distraction site, has an interesting take on it as they often do, though it amounts to blowing more smoke over the issue.

A new report circulating in the Kremlin today prepared by the Main Intelligence Directorate of the General Staff of the Armed Forces (GRU) states that Aerospace Defence Forces (VKO) experts remain “puzzled” as to why the United States Navy “captured and then diverted” a Malaysia Airlines civilian aircraft from its intended flight-path to their vast and highly-secretive Indian Ocean base located on the Diego Garcia atoll....

Interesting to note, this report says, was that Flight 370 was already under GRU “surveillance” after it received a “highly suspicious” cargo load that had been traced to the Indian Ocean nation Republic of Seychelles, and where it had previously been aboard the US-flagged container ship MV Maersk Alabama. ...

What first aroused GRU suspicions regarding the MV Maersk Alabama, this report continues, was that within 24-hours of off-loading this “highly suspicious” cargo load bound for Malaysia Airlines Flight 370, the two highly-trained US Navy Seals assigned to protect it, Mark Daniel Kennedy, 43, and Jeffrey Keith Reynolds, 44, were found dead under “suspicious circumstances.”

The link to that item goes back to Feb 24: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/2-ex-navy-seals-on-maersk-alabama-died-of-respiratory-failure-police-say/

Both Kennedy and Reynolds, this report says, were employed by the Virginia Beach, Virginia-based maritime security firm The Trident Group which was founded by US Navy Special Operations Personnel (SEAL’s) and Senior US Naval Surface Warfare Officers and has long been known by the GRU to protect vital transfers of both atomic and biological materials throughout the world.

Then there's a link to another SF article that says:

A stunning Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MoFA) report circulating in the Kremlin today says the President Putin’s outright rejection of a US proposal to resolve the dispute over Ukraine that had been put forward by Secretary of State John Kerry was due to the Russian leaders “fury” over a secret report given to Moscow this past weekend by Saudi Arabia which effectively branded the Obama regime as a “terrorist organization.”

According to this report, Putin requested from Saudi Arabia their complete classified file explaining their reason(s) for last week labeling the Muslim Brotherhood a terrorist organization in a move that increases pressure on Qatar whose backing for this group has sparked a row with its fellow Gulf monarchies.

The Muslim Brotherhood is a transnational Islamic political organization which had previously been branded as a terrorist organization by the governments of Egypt, Russia and Syria.

Saudi Arabia, Bahrain and the United Arab Emirates withdrew their ambassadors from Qatar last Wednesday after accusing the emirate of meddling in their internal affairs. Egypt followed suit the next day, formalizing a breach of diplomatic ties that began shortly after the overthrow of President Mohammed Morsi.

The move has added to Qatar's isolation over its support for the Muslim Brotherhood and other allied Islamist groups in the region, who in recent months have seen the gains they made in the Arab Spring rolled back.

The Saudi report provided to Putin, this report continues, provided “highly convincing and disturbing” evidence of the Obama regimes links to this terror group and its “ultimate goal” of spreading Islamic-backed fundamentalist radical groups throughout the Middle East, Europe and Asia to destroy the nations of Syria, Egypt, Iran, Lebanon, Turkey, Israel, Saudi Arabia and Russia for the purpose of replacing them with “smaller, more manageable” and “Western friendly” nations.

Concerns over Obama’s links to the Muslim Brotherhood, this report notes, were raised this past September (2013) after one of Egypt’s largest newspapers, Al-Wafd, reported their uncovering of explosive secret documents proving that America’s President was, indeed, a member of this terrorist organization.

Further to be noted in this Saudi report to Putin, the MoFA says, is that Obama’s half-brother in Kenya, Malik Obama, has been named by the Vice President of the Supreme Constitutional Court of Egypt, Tehani al-Gebali, as having complete oversight of the Muslim Brotherhood’s international investments.

Even more astounding, this report says, is that Obama is continuing to flood the US government with Muslim Brotherhood supporters...

Here's a link about that: http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/09/03/egyptian-newspapers-explosive-allegation-president-obama-is-a-secret-muslim-brotherhood-member/

And yet another SF piece sez:

A new report prepared by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MoFA) is warning today that it is growing increasingly likely that American citizen deaths will be occurring in Ukraine during the coming weeks after nearly 1,800 US-backed mercenaries have entered into the volatile Donetsk region where Russian Special Forces troops are, likewise, actively operating.

According to this report, Ukraine’s illegitimate government that overthrew its President and suspended its constitution, illegally ousted all of the Russian-speaking Donetsk regions elected representatives and installed as its puppet-leader the oligarch Serhiy Taruta who is listed by Forbes as the 645th richest man in the world, and who upon taking office contracted with the US State Departments feared mercenary contractor Academi to rush in troops to protect his new regime.

Important to note, this report continues, is that Academi is the new iteration of the feared Blackwater mercenary group headed by Erik Prince who can be described either as “a great American patriot, used and then dumped by the United States government, or one of the biggest war profiteers in the history of armed conflict.”

As to how Academi/Blackwater earned its feared reputation, this report says, was due to the many atrocities it committed in the Iraq War. Though they did agree to pay $7.5 million in fines, without admitting guilt, to the US government to settle various charges, but most of the charges were dropped in February 2013 when it was revealed that these mercenaries were acting under the orders of the US government.

Even more critical to note, this report says, are that the Academi mercenaries now operating in the Donetsk region may be further bolstered by the Obama regimes State Departments “shadow army” estimated to total around 32,000 troops stationed throughout the world.

Sometimes I wonder about this Sorcha Faal site. There's gotta be some money behind it even if it is written off as disinfo and some guy named "David Booth" (I think). I mean, they are on top of some things in a very strange way, and there is some serious thinking that goes into the conspiracies they spin. And they do it FAST. That is strange, too.

So, dunno what there might be in the above speculations, but they are interesting.
 
Forrestdeva said:
My Son served on the USS Pinckney, and shot Tomahawk Missiles. I would think they would be sending in Hospital ships for recovery....but Destroyers...has to be Military actions to come, yeah.

Maybe they want an excuse to assemble a fleet there?
 
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