Malaysian Airlines Flight 17 Crashes in Ukraine


Jedi Master
В Германии впервые заявили о причастности США к крушению MH17 в Донбассе
18:04 11 Марта 2019
выделенное в статье написано буквально так, однако АВАКС, насколько я знаю, разведывательная авиосистема и сама никого атаковать не способна.


In Germany, for the first time announced the us involvement in the crash of MH17 in the Donbass

18: 04 March 11, 2019

Berlin, March 11. The US may be directly involved in the crash of the Malaysian Boeing-777 near Donetsk in July 2014. This was stated by the editor-in-chief of the German magazine World Economy Alexander Sosnovsky.

As an argument, he reported on the recently emerged so-called results of negotiations between German Chancellor Angela Merkel and German defense Minister Merkel's refusal to provide military assistance to Kiev in the Kerch region. The political scientist is convinced that now the appearance of these data is not accidental. In his opinion, Merkel refused the Ukrainian side due to the fact that the APU is actively involved in joint provocations with the United States.

As a recent example, he cited the incident in the Kerch Strait at the end of November 2018, when three Ukrainian warships violated the borders of the territorial waters of the Russian Federation, dangerously maneuvered and ignored the demands of border guards to stop. As a result, the ships were stopped and the sailors on Board were detained. They are charged with committing a crime under the article on violation of the state border of the Russian Federation.

About a month ago, a number of media reported that during this operation, the Navy ships were accompanied by NATO aircraft "AWACS". Sosnovsky believes that the calculation in this case was that the Russian side will begin to show aggression and then "AWACS" will go on the attack, which will provoke a military conflict between Russia and the Alliance.

The political scientist stressed that Germany is well aware of what irreversible consequences such a scenario can lead to.

Besides, Sosnovsky didn't exclude that the USA can be involved and in loss of Malaysian "Boeing" in March, 2014. According to him, just a few days ago, several German publications reported that the aircraft fell into the zone of maneuvers that were carried out by the United States and Malaysia.

"Moreover, similar maneuvers caused the crash of mh17 flight in the sky over Donbass", - he stressed.

The political scientist believes that these publications are unique, because the Western media for the first time openly reported that the United States played a role in these terrible tragedies.

He stressed that in the future the true understanding of the situation will begin to manifest itself more clearly, according to "political Russia".

As previously reported by the Federal news Agency, the investigation into the circumstances of the crash of a passenger plane in the Donetsk region of Ukraine in the summer of 2014. the international group of investigators is engaged. In their opinion, the missile that shot down the plane was allegedly fired by the 53rd anti-aircraft missile brigade of the Russian armed forces from Kursk.

Moscow considers the investigation of the SSG biased. The Russian foreign Ministry has repeatedly reported that Russian specialists are not able to take part in the work. According to the speaker of the Ministry Maria Zakharova, numerous questions of the Russian side on this incident still remain unanswered.

Despite this, as she stressed, Russia continues to be ready for a substantive and professional conversation on all aspects of this international investigation.

"A different approach is unlikely to be of practical value," the diplomat added.
В Германии впервые заявили о причастности США к крушению MH17 в Донбассе

highlighted in the article is written literally so, but the AWACS, as far as I know, the intelligence air system itself is not able to attack anyone.
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The Living Force
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In Germany, for the first time announced the us involvement in the crash of MH17 in the Donbass

18: 04 March 11, 2019
Below this in the body of your posted translation it is all blurred out (on my end), so I can't read what it has to say. Odd.

Translated again (Google) it says:

In Germany, for the first time, they declared that the United States was involved in the MH17 crash in Donbass

Berlin, March 11th. The United States can be directly involved in the collapse of the Malaysian Boeing-777 near Donetsk in July 2014. This was stated by the chief editor of the German magazine World Economy Alexander Sosnovsky. As an argument, he reported on the recently emerged so-called results of negotiations between German Chancellor Angela Merkel and the German defense minister about Merkel’s refusal to provide military aid to Kiev in the Kerch area. The political scientist is convinced that now the appearance of this data is not accidental. According to him, Merkel refused to the Ukrainian side due to the fact that the Ukrainian Armed Forces are actively involved in joint provocations with the US , dangerously maneuvered and ignored the demands of border guards to stop. As a result, the ships were stopped, and the sailors aboard were detained. They are charged with committing a crime under the article on violation of the state border of the Russian Federation. About a month ago, a number of media outlets reported that during this operation, naval forces escorted Avows NATO planes. Sosnovsky believes that the calculation in this case was that the Russian side would begin to show aggression and then Avaksy would go on the attack, which would provoke a military conflict between the Russian Federation and the alliance. The political analyst stressed that Germany perfectly understands what irreversible consequences such a scenario. In addition, Sosnowski did not rule out that the United States could be involved in the loss of the Malaysian Boeing in March 2014. According to him, just a few days ago, several German publications reported that the aircraft had fallen into the zone of maneuvers that were being conducted by the United States and Malaysia at that time. “Moreover, similar maneuvers caused the crash of flight MH17 in the sky over the Donbas,” he stressed. The political analyst believes that these publications are unique, because the Western media for the first time openly reported that the United States played a role in these terrible tragedies. He stressed that in the future the true understanding of the situation will begin to manifest itself more and more clearly, reports "PolitRussia". As previously reported by the Federal News Agency, an investigation into the circumstances of the crash of a passenger plane in the Donetsk region of Ukraine the summer of 2014. engaged by an international investigative team. According to them, the rocket that shot down the plane was allegedly launched by the 53rd anti-aircraft missile brigade from Kursk. Moscow considers the SSG’s investigation to be biased. The Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation has repeatedly reported that the specialists of the Russian Federation do not have the opportunity to participate in the work. According to the ministry’s speaker, Maria Zakharova, numerous questions from the Russian side on this incident remain unanswered. Despite this, she stressed, Russia continues to be prepared for a substantive and professional conversation on all aspects of this international investigation. “A different approach is unlikely to be of practical value,” the diplomat added.

Hello H2O

Dagobah Resident
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It was blurred out on mine too. But when I touched the blurred section it became clear. Weird. :umm:


Jedi Master
It's an 'inline spoiler' (post-editor > insert > inline spoiler). Not sure why it was used, maybe by accident.


The Living Force
I did a Google search for Alexander Sosnovsky and for the German magazine World Economy as well as diverse combinations of those two and came up empty handed. Only the page of this thread came up twice among loads of rubbish.

As I'm not able to read Russian or other Slavic languages or Ukrainian I may have missed something but I didn't get that impression watching the dates and/or the subjects or the type of source.

So for now I'm inclined to be very skeptical about all this until further notice, or until something more substantial turns up.

Sorry about that.


The Living Force
On today's SOTT (via TASS Mon, 25 Mar 2019 13:25 UTC):

Ukrainian side involved in MH17 flight disaster over Donbass - former SBU officer --

The Ukrainian side was involved in the MH17 flight disaster over Donbass, a former officer of the Ukrainian security service SBU, Vasily Prozorov, told a news conference on Monday.

"It is my personal opinion and it relies on certain information. The Ukrainian side is an accomplice to the Malaysian MH17 flight disaster," he said.

"The amazingly prompt reaction of the Ukrainian leadership was the first thing that made me feel suspicious. My unequivocal opinion was President Pyotr Poroshenko and his press-service had prior knowledge of the affair. Secondly, hostilities had been underway for several months by then, but the airspace over the area was not closed," Prozorov said.

In particular he emphasized the invariable response to all of his attempts to find out the circumstances of the disaster, for instance, a conversation with General Staff officers. The usual reply was: "Don't poke your nose into this business, if you don't wish to have problems."

"Some information has leaked out in the end, though. On the basis of my own analysis I can speculate who was an accomplice in the crime and who was involved in concealing evidence. In my opinion, there were two men involved - the current deputy chief of the Ukrainian presidential staff Valery Kondratyuk and chief of the Ukrainian Defense Ministry's intelligence directorate, Vasily Burba."

A passenger liner Boeing-777 of the Malaysia Airlines (Flight MH17 from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur) disappeared from the radar screens over the east of Ukraine's Donetsk Region on July 17, 2014. Its crash killed all 298 passengers and crew on board - citizens of ten countries. Although hostilities had been underway on the ground for quite some time by then Kiev failed to close the Donbass airspace to international passenger flights. Australia, Belgium, Malaysia, the Netherlands and Ukraine created a Joint Investigation Team. On May 24 last year it published an interim report to claim that the missile launcher which had fired the missile that downed the plane might have been brought from Russia's 53rd air defense missile brigade.

Russia dismissed the JIT charges. The Defense Ministry said that not a single air defense system of the Russian armed forces had ever crossed the Russian-Ukrainian border.


The Living Force
And just in (also via TASS Mon, 25 Mar 2019 17:27 UTC ):

CIA, MI6 have been helping Ukraine's SBU spy agency in planning its covert operations - ex-officer --

Vasily Prozorov said that there are representatives of foreign non-governmental organizations, for instance, the Rand Corporation, present within the Ukrainian security agencies

Operatives from American and British intelligence services are directly participating in hatching secret plots with Ukraine's Security Service (SBU) and training personnel to carry them out, SBU ex-employee Vasily Prozorov said at a news conference on Monday.

"I do not know for what motives. I believe this is for not only security but also conspiracy reasons, because CIA employees have been present in Kiev since 2014. They are residing in clandestine apartments and suburban houses," he said.

"However, they frequently come to the SBU's central office for holding, for example, specific meetings or plotting secret operations," he said.

"To give specific names, specifically MI6 agents - Charles Backford and Justin Hartman - it appears, of course, I may be mistaken, came to the SBU in 2016. I remembered them because they did not only come to a meeting with the leadership of the Ukrainian Security Service but also made visits to the area of the counter-terror operation, the town of Kramatorsk, and permission for visiting this area is granted through the headquarters of the anti-terror center and so these names were mentioned," the ex-SBU employee said.

Also, a member of the [US] Defense Department's Intelligence Agency Harry Reid also visited Ukraine, the ex-SBU agent said.

"At that moment, and this was the autumn of 2017, he seemed to be the bureau director. He came to Kiev as a representative of the Special Operations Forces and then he visited Berdichev where the Special Force's training center is located because he directly oversaw the development of the Ukrainian Special Operations Forces and in Berdichev, he checked on the activity of US green berets who were staying there as instructors," Prozorov said.

As the former Ukrainian security officer said, many representatives of foreign non-governmental organizations, for example, the Rand Corporation, are present in the Ukrainian security agencies.

"I won't give the names right now but these documents are available because I got hold of them. So, there are a lot of them and they frequently come," the ex-employee said.

"It is also possible to recall, of course, foreign instructors who are working in 'voluntary battalions.' I saw with my own eyes, Swedes and Italians, for example, in Azov," he stated.

"Of course, it is possible to recall Mr. [Giorgi] Kalandadze, the former chief of the General Staff of the Georgian Armed Forces who did not just train the Dnepr and Azov units [the nationalist battalions] but trained them, among other things, in the methods of interrogations and torture," Prozorov said. "This is the first thing that comes to my mind."


The Living Force
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Paul Craig Roberts picks up on the story:

Ukrainian Security Official Says Ukraine Shot Down MH-17
March 26, 2019
Paul Craig Roberts

298 Passengers and crew were murdered by Ukraine in order to create a propaganda attack on Russia. The filth that comprise the Western media and governments hid the truth for the sake of Washington’s anti-Russian propaganda.

The security official says that his suspicions were aroused by “the amazingly prompt reaction of the Ukrainian leadership,” which “indicated prior knowledge of the affair.” Perhaps readers will remember that at the time I pointed out that the event was clearly staged as the same propagandistic accusation against Russia appeared everywhere instantly long before any investigation. Indeed, the investigation was stillborn as it could not be concocted to indicate Russia’s guilt.

Don’t be surprised. Western governments and media only lie. Never do they tell the truth. Remember: Russiagate. Weapons of mass destruction. Iranian nukes. Assad’s use of chemical weapons. Gulf of Tonkin. 9/11. Russian invasion of Ukraine. JFK assassination. MLK assassination. Bobby Kennedy assassination. Skripal poisoning. Maduro starving his own people. An endless list of lies. The entirety of the West is nothing but a lie factory.

BREAKING: Ukrainian Security Boss Admits Ukraine Shot Down MH-17, Planned Ethnic Genocide in Donbass - Fort Russ


The Living Force
Archiving today's SOTT article about Vasily Prozorov from Whitney Webb (MintPress News - Wed, 27 Mar 2019 00:00 UTC):

Reasons to believe Vasily Prozorov's testimony about Ukraine's role in the downing of MH-17 --

Whitney Webb is a MintPress News journalist based in Chile. She has contributed to several independent media outlets including Global Research, EcoWatch, the Ron Paul Institute and 21st Century Wire, among others. She has made several radio and television appearances and is the 2019 winner of the Serena Shim Award for Uncompromised Integrity in Journalism.


The Living Force
Source: Europees Hof vraagt Rusland om opheldering over ramp MH17 (Dutch only)

DeepLTranslator said:
European Court asks Russia for clarification on disaster MH17

Today, 12:40 Adapted Today, 13:08

The European Court of Human Rights has started processing the complaints of the relatives of the disaster with flight MH17. The Court gives Russia until 3 September to respond in writing to the accusations.

The relatives say that Russia has violated their fundamental rights by taking down Malaysia Airlines' aircraft over Ukraine on 17 July 2014 and obstructing the subsequent investigation. They hold Russia directly or indirectly responsible for this, according to the indictment.

These are two complaints that have been merged by the Court. One complaint was filed by Beer Advocaten, representing some 100 surviving relatives. The other complaint came from the American lawyer Jerry Skinner. In 2016 he filed a $330 million claim with the Court, initially on behalf of relatives from Australia, New Zealand and Malaysia. Last year, relatives of 111 Dutch victims joined in this claim. The group is represented in the Netherlands by the Dutch Core Team MH17, a partnership of five law firms.

"Established fact"

The Dutch law firm writes that the European Court of Justice seems to assume as "an established fact" that the Buk with which the aircraft was brought down was transferred from Russia to the war zone in eastern Ukraine under the command of Russian soldiers. This is in line with the results of the international investigation into the disaster.

The disaster with flight MH17 killed 298 people, including 196 Dutch people. Russia contradicts any involvement.

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The Living Force
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More or less, this is a featured article exposé out of Voltaire titled 'Everything on Bellingcat and the official inquiry into the destruction of Flight MH17' (by Jürgen Cain Külbel) - was a new one on me. Background on Jürgen:

Jürgen Cain Külbel is an ex-investigator for the criminal police of the Democratic Republic of Germany. He became a journalist after the reunification of Germany. He has managed to identify the author of the reports posted on the Bellingcat site which influenced the international police team tasked by Ukraine with establishing the cause of the destruction of Flight MH17. This amateur, who « found » evidence of Russian guilt which he claims to be « irrefutable », is in reality a musician, with no competence whatsoever in criminalistics.

Added as an archive item in whole:

Daniël Romein and the journalists of De Volkskrant
He calls himself Daniël Romein. That is not his real name. We made an appointment to meet in a cafe. He sits down, seeming a little embarrassed. He has a friendly face. From time to time, he glances to the right. Then he looks at the people outside who are walking in the rain. « I always try to have a head start on my adversary », he says. And for him, the enemy is Russia. He wants to take precautions. « As a specialist in computers, I know what counter-measures I need to apply ». And he adds - « This job is risky, because I know that the Russians are really unhappy about our research ».

In February 2016, Daniël Romein met with a group of journalists in this cafe [1] - secretly, of course. Huib Modderkolk and Bert Lanting from the Amsterdam daily De Volkskrant wrote later that Romein’s « discoveries » were the foundation of the Bellingcat reports in 2015 and 2016 on the catastrophe of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 (MH17). Jikke Zijlstra and Michael de Smit, of Nederlandse Omroep Stichting (NOS), a Dutch public service radio station, noted that - « Although [British subject Eliot] Higgins is the founder of Bellingcat, their Dutch employee, Daniël Romein, wrote the greater part of the report (in 2016) ». Modderkolk and Lanting even wrote that Romein had provided the basis for these reports, that he was the principal author of the studies, and that he works « in secret for the Bellingcat research collective. Almost no-one knows this. His family, his friends, his colleagues – most of them don’t know. He likes to maintain a small circle. He himself estimates their number at a maximum of ten. Last year (2015), he was engaged in research to discover which Russian soldiers were implicated in the destruction of Flight MH17 », and uses « his computer as a weapon. He watches his screen for hours, scrolling through Russian Web sites and the social media. He does this by choice, on top of his work as an IT professional. Sometimes he works very late – until two o’clock in the morning - and comes to work at the office the next morning with tired eyes ... that’s when it becomes difficult, and he can’t talk to anyone. « Sometimes it feels as if I’m living a double life ». Romein declared to the journalist that media attention should be focused on the people involved rather than on himself – he wants remain anonymous. « Only his colleagues in Bellingcat know his real identity », affirms De Volkskrant.

Daniël Romein, liaison agent between Bellingcat and the Joint Investigation Team

Around Christmas 2015, on the request of the founder of Bellingcat, Eliot Higgins, Romein sent his work of investigation and that of Bellingcat to the Dutch Openbaar Ministerie, in other words the Public Prosecutor’s Office, which takes precedence over the Joint Investigation Team (JIT) tasked with the international criminal investigation into the catastrophe of Flight MH17. The Public Minister declared that he would « pay serious attention to the information, including its usefulness for the criminal investigation ». « They are satisfied with our efforts and our work », declared Romein, who has regular contacts with the detectives from the JIT. For example, on an invitation from the JIT, he had on numerous occasions exchanged information on Bellingcat’s enquiries with the Public Prosecutor’s team. Eliot Higgins, the head alchemist of Bellingcat, was twice heard as a witness.

Bellingcat’s « criminological investigators »

Eliot Higgins’ firm Bellingcat, the « research platform of citizen journalists » which brags that it carries out « criminalistic enquiries », enjoys an uninterrupted barrage of media hype in the dominant Western medias – due to their « investigations » into the catastrophe of Flight MH17 or in the case of the poisoning of the Skripals. However, the methodology of the group, its conclusions, and its impartiality raise some very serious doubts. The dominant Press unhesitatingly elevates the members of the team to the rank of « experts ». But the Bellingcats charged in 2015 and 2016 with the enquiry into the affair of Flight MH17 do not stand out either as recognised experts, nor as investigators who specialise in the legal sciences. They are
Pieter van Huis (Dutch), degree in History,
Stijn Mitzer (Oryx), analyst and blogger,
Daniel Romein, IT specialist
Sean Case (British), specialist in environmental sciences and plants,
Eliot Higgins, director of Bellingcat, without any significant qualification,
the Americans Andrew Haggard, ex-member of the US army,
Aric Toler, literary researcher and linguist, {another story}
Nathan Patin, ex-intern in foreign politics and defence for the American Enterprise Institute think tank in Washington,
Veli-Pekka Kivimäki (Finnish), an officer at the University of the Finnish Defence Forces in Helsinki,
Olaf Neitsch alias Timmi Allen (German), ex-employee in a service of the Ministry of State Security of the RDA , ex-owner of a pub, today an insurance salesman,
Igor Ostanin (Magnitski), (Russian) freelancer, as well as Anders Klement of StopFake, an anti-Russian propaganda initiative based in Kiev.

We should keep on mind - independent of the fact that Bellingcat is supported by sponsors such as George Soros’ Open Society – that among the « founding members » of the group in 2014 and 2015, we find the British ex-spy Cameron Colquhoun and Nour Bakr from the British Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Chris Bigger from the US National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency (NGA) as well as Christoph Koettl from the New York Times, Leroy Aliaume from BBC World, and Aaron Stein from the Royal United Services Institute (RUSI), a British research institute connected with the Intelligence Serviceseven a blind person could understand where Bellingcat’s « expertise of savoir-faire » is going. Their intention is to howl like a cat in heat, and make a lot of noise, all of it aimed at Russia.

Neutrality, objectivity, impartiality – the qualities which should distinguish a professional investigator and an expert – do not work this way. Normality in the daily life of the legal and security organisms of each country resides in the fact that the criminalistic investigations and associated reports are carried out by qualified experts, and that the resulting report, like any other proof, has in any case no conclusive value if it has been decided in advance. Only the tribunal can decide on its conclusive value. The reports must therefore contain a certain number of definite qualitative characteristics, such as the presentation of elements of proof, the method of investigation, etc. Journalists from the general public, in particular those of the trans-Atlantic persuasion, deliberately ignore the necessity of a precise scientific and legal approach, and fail to question the accuracy of Bellingcat’s reports on any point. They therefore practice the art of copy and paste so that later, they will be able to pocket the coward’s reward of thirty pieces of silver.

Why is « Daniël Romein » investigating the catastrophe of Flight MH17?

Question of the enquiry: What motivates Daniël to analyse the catastrophe of MH17?
Result of the enquiry: Modderkolk and Lanting have written that « the images haunted him ». For him, the catastrophe is a mixture of terror and obsession… He has been interested in this region for some time. He learned Russian a long time ago … He visits all sorts of Web forums. « I wanted to know who did it ». The members of the Dutch forums seem ill-informed. He quickly seeks out Ukrainian and Russian forums. « Jikke Zijlstra and Michael de Smit from NOS, who qualified the search for the authors of these crimes as being almost obsessional », gave us this quote: « It’s on my mind a lot. The catastrophe really moved me. I thought it was so terrible, I was so angry, even though I knew none of the victims personally,.I wanted to know who were the idiots behind it all ».

The genesis of the research into the « Daniël Romein » Character

According to Wikipedia: « Open-source intelligence (OSINT) is data collected from publicly available sources to be used in an Intelligence context.[1] In the Intelligence community, the term "open" refers to overt, publicly available sources (as opposed to covert or clandestine sources) ». The definition is rather pretentious, since it concerns no more than the minimal daily work of criminal investigations; going from house to house, knocking on doors, so to speak – but in this case, it means visiting the Internet on the World Wide Web, scrolling from blog to blog, from post to post.
Knocking on the doors of OSINT via Yandex and Google in order to find « Daniël Romein » led nowhere; most of the entries were linked to Bellingcat. However, the Dutch search engine Geneanet proposed the variant « Romein / Romijn ». The entry « Daniel Romijn » generated almost 2 million results. Using the combination « Romein Romijn », Commissioner Hasard found a broken link which it was possible to reconnect with the Wayback Machine: on the page Pink Floyd Fans Nederlands, the Floydian author Theo wrote about the musician « Danyo Romijn (keyboards, guitar, Hammond) », whom he named, a few lines further on in the same message, as « Danyo Romein ». Research into the meaning and origins of the name reveals that « Danyo » is the German variant of Daniel.

Searching for « Daniël Romein »
From the rare publications in the Dutch media on « Daniël Romein », we note that he
has been working for Bellingcat since November 2014,
is Dutch,
is an IT specialist,
works in an office during the day,
speaks fluent Russian and
has skills in photography.
Answer 1: Daniël Romein, Danyo Romijn and computer science
The search using « Daniël Romein » and « IT » gave no results; « Danyo Romijn », associated with « IT » hit the spot on Linkedin. On that site, a certain « Danyo Romijn » from The Hague introduces himself as an « IT expert in the management of applications, and developer of software ». After having studied computer science at the Den Haag University of Applied Sciences (from 1988 to 1995), he worked from February to September 1996 as a developer of software at the Ministerie van Binnenlandse Zaken en Koninkrijksrelaties (Minister of the Interior and Relations of the Kingdom - BZK) before being transferred to the Immigratie - en Naturalisatiedienst (Immigration and Naturalisation Service - IND). As from May 1997, he pursued his activities in the IT sector as a developer of software and Web applications from April 2010 to November 2016 as a specialist in IT applications in the province of Zuid-Holland. In November 2016, he changed direction and joined the team of the POSG Den Haag project, provider of services for Work and Careers. Danyo Romijn’s profile on identifies him as a specialist in IT technologies, a regional coordinator in the province of Zuid-Holland, and a member of the Tibet Support Group; on one can also find a fragment of his email address - d****
Answer 2: « Danyo Romijn » and « Photography »
A search using a combination of « Danyo Romijn » and « Photografie » revealed another match.
Beeldbank Haags Gemeentearchief not only proposes photos by « Danyo Romijn », with all sorts of views of the street, but also his complete electronic address: d**** (which we shall not reveal here). In Europeana’s online collection, you can also see 152 photos by « Danyo Romijn ».
Answer 3: « Danyo Romijn » and « MH17 »
The search for « Danyo Romijn » combined with « MH17 » provided a break-through. From Monday 4 to Wednesday 6 August 2014, a user named « Danyo Romijn » published a total of 14 contributions concerning his own enquiries about the catastrophe of MH17 on the English-language discussion forum Niqnaq. He posted links to photos from the Russian and Ukrainian medias, and described his research on a multi-lingual Russian social network,, on DNR Press, on the page of the Ukrainian Intelligence services, on the page of the Russian Minister for Foreign Affairs, concluding that the « rebels » of Donetsk, who had stolen the BUK-M1 missile system on 29 June 2014, could have used it to shoot down the plane. He also deduced that the shape of the « impact holes » in the cockpit could have been made by a BUK-M1, but at this moment formulated no direct incriminations. In short, he had looked into this affair extensively at that time; far more than an average consumer who wishes only to inform himself. This « Danyo Romijn », we may now affirm with a probability close to certainty, had researched the matter in full knowledge of the facts.
Question of the enquiry: Is Danyo Romijn, the user who had signed on to Niqnaq, really identical to the Dutch IT specialist « Danyo Romijn »?
Result of the enquiry : « An IP address is an address on the IT networks, which, like the Internet, is based on Internet protocol. It is given to the computers which are connected to the network, rendering them addressable and thus accessible », indicates Wikipedia. From the United Kingdom, the author received the information that user « Danyo Romijn » had connected to Niqnaq with the IP address and the email address d****, which had already been attributed to Dutch user Danyo Romijn. This IP denomination belongs in turn to a « composite » IP - IP à – of du NET-NL-PROVINCIE-ZUID-HOLLAND.
Intermediate result: The Danyo Romijn who really exists had apparently used his name and his electronic address in August 2014 on the Niqnaq forum during a discussion on the catastrophe of Flight MH17.
Question of the enquiry: Is the Danyo Romijn who really exists the same Daniel Romein who works for Bellingcat?
Result of the enquiry: On the English-language discussion forum Websleuths, at 2.22 p.m. on 2 November 2014 (the post had been erased, but was able to be « resuscitated » by the author), a commentator named « danyoromijn » appeared and added a single post during the discussion on the affair of Flight MH17 :
« Hi everyone, this is my first post on this subject on Websleuths, but I’ve been here since 17 July, and I’ve read everything about Bellingcat here and on numerous other sites, including sites in Ukrainian and Russian (I can read a little Russian - Google Translate is my friend). I went to Ukraine and to Russia (in Ukraine recently, I mean two years ago, and to Russia fourteen years ago), which helps me to understand things a little better. I’m surprised that there are only 16 pages on Websleuths when there is so much information we could share … Well, since it’s so complex, I haven’t yet published anything about MH17, but now I have some information which I’d like to share with Bellingcat… ».
This user « danyoromijn » also reveals personal information. First of all, he speaks a little Russian. Secondly, the Danyo Romijn who really exists, as claimed by « danyoromijn » on Websleuths, went to Moscow, the capital of Russia, in 2000, and two years later, to Ukraine, where he visited Kiev, Cherkasy, Kirovohrad, Vinnytsia, Zhytomyr, Khmelnytskyi, Lviv, Chernivtsi, Ternopil, Volhynia, the Zakarpattia Oblast, and Rivne. To sum up – so far, Romijn has visited more than 50 countries, including Belarus in 2004, Estonia, Lithuania, Latvia in 2008 and also the United Kingdom in 2015, the home of the « chief expert » for Bellingcats, Eliot Higgins.
A reminder - on 2 November 2014, « danyoromijn » posted on Websleuths that he would like to share some information with Bellingcats. We remember the comments by Modderkolk and Lanting from De Volkskrant, who, in February 2016, described the « work » of Daniel Romein, a member of Bellingcat, in the following terms - « He examines the photos taken by the Russian military forces on Vkontakte, and thus gets to know the region and the Russian military presence. He gleans his topographical knowledge mainly from Google and its Russian equivalent Yandex. In order to collect more photos, he watches the amateur images taken from Dashcams, cameras which film the road as people drive. For hours, he walks back and forth in his room, as if he were journeying to the other side of the frontier between Russia and Ukraine ».
Then - « In November 2014, he sent the summary to the British founder of Bellingcat, Eliot Higgins, who thanked him warmly in return. Two weeks later, he received another email from Higgins. Romein said - « He was impressed when I wanted to do more ». Which he did. There was a flurry of exchanges by e-mail, and Higgins asked Romein if he wanted to join the group. Romein had difficulty in understanding the meaning of that. There was no selection committee, he was not asked to send a letter or even undergo a telephone interview. He met no-one. He had never even shaken Higgins’ hand. In fact, nothing changed. Well, he has access to Bellingcat’s « i-channels » - an information platform where members of Bellingcat send one another messages, which are coded. Romein therefore became the seventh member of Bellingcat » .
Initial meeting and communication with Danyo Romijn
At the end of February and the beginning of March, the author contacted Danyo Romijn – the two electronic addresses d*** and i** turned out to be active - and invited him to answer the following questions:
Author: « Do you have a degree or any training in digital criminalistics and / or digital criminalistics for the study of images? Do you consider yourself an expert in criminal investigations? Do you know how to carry out legal and criminal investigations? »
Since Romijn threatened the author with prosecution, I am only able to quote his replies from memory. After three requests by email, Romijn replied - « I’m sorry, you’re confusing me with someone else. I have nothing to do with Flight MH17 ».
Author: « I am not confusing you with anyone. I followed your previous IP (NET-NL-PROVINCIE-ZUID-HOLLAND). You used it for your communications concerning MH17. We should talk. »
Romijn’s repose, quoted from memory: « My previous job was indeed in the Provincie Zuid-Holland. But I am absolutely certain that we never had any contact by email, and certainly not about Flight MH17. I may have sent someone an email about it, but there’s nothing strange about that. Almost everyone in Holland was talking about it. »
Author : « You’re right, we have not yet had an exchange of emails. I don’t have any emails that you wrote to anyone. I’m talking about your own lP, connected to much detailed information concerning Flight MH17 which was researched, produced and written by you a few years ago. »
Romijn’s reply from memory: « That IP address is a general IP address from my previous job, and is one of the rare IP addresses listed on line: Whois - COLT Technology Services Group Limited | Whois Lookup Information. However, I can see no connection between that IP address and any activity by me. My ex-employer would probably not have accepted my writing long fragments of text which were not linked to my work. Whatever you want to write and publish, do not forget that the laws on the protection of personal data are very strict in Holland and Germany. and if you write anything totally stupid about me, you’ll only ridicule yourself - with the added risk that your article may be deleted. And if you break the law, if you commit a digital hack, you also risk an extra ten days in prison. Of course, you may write about my journeys, my work, and my music. I hope that a few people will order my latest CD because of your publication. Smiley. »
Author : « You were very active for a while with that IP address (also linked to one of your message accounts) in order to do your research work on Flight MH17.
Please send me a sworn declaration stating that you, Danyo Romijn, have never used the general IP address to research, write or send information about Flight MH17. »

Background information about Danyo Romijn

That was the end of my contact with Danyo Romijn. The explanation I requested never arrived, but on the contrary, he deleted his Internet page from the network, and also deleted items on numerous data portals which gave information about himself. However, the author had saved all important data before contacting Romijn.
It is remarkable to note the abundance of information that Danyo Romijn posted on the Web. On his Web site, which was emptied out and is currently « in construction », it is stated that he was born in The Hague on 14 May 1970, where he still lives, that he has a daughter named Patricia, born on 20 October 2005 in The Hague, that he has been divorced since 2009, and has the partial charge of his daughter. « My work since 1996 has been developing software and Web applications, but I also have experience in the management of application changes. I recently followed courses in project management. As well as my job, I have also participated in the development of sites ... ». Apart from Web sites, his favourite hobbies are his journeys, his music, and his photography. « As far as my journeys are concerned, I have not only travelled in Europe, but also in India, Nepal, Cuba, Aruba and Curaçao. I mostly take photographs when I’m travelling, but I also photograph nature and my daughter. I’ve been working in music for years, as a listener, but also for many years in musical groups and musical projects. Now I play music at home with synthesisers ». Then comes a list of his favourite music, his favourite films, his favourite comedies, his favourite books, his favourite drink, his favourite pet, his favourite colours and his private email address i**, Elsewhere, in the forum for Singles Wamba, he gives his height, 1.83m, and his weight, 90kg. He does not smoke, is a social drinker, has a regular income, and would like to meet a « girl » aged between 36 and 40, or else a woman aged between 37 and 45. The difference is not clear for the author. He also practices a Korean form of martial arts, the Taekwondo Koryo.
Danyo Romijns reveals not only all the details of his professional career on his old Web site, but also his leisures - « I also really like photography, which I usually practice on holiday, but also architecture (old buildings), nature, and of course family photos, for example of my daughter Patricia. I always think of myself as an amateur / leisure photographer, even though I have a good eye for composition ». Then he draws up a list of various types of camera which he claims are his.
We can’t confirm that this is a leisure activity, but the Single Romijn is also on the lookout for a woman. Even on this subject, the blood of an investigator courses through his veins. On the Dutch dating site, he discovered « bad » things, and immediately complained: the names of the women who flirted with him are specifically « always constructed the same way: myszka_a_450, alinda_a_228, butterfly_a_723, karina_b_242, maymay_a_744 , sandra_a_179, monika_c_221, primavera_a_824 and jolanda_a_375 ». Romijn reached his conclusions in the Bellingcat style, « These names are generated by itself. I don’t like that at all, really doesn’t need them, there are enough real members, so why create false profiles?? ». vehemently rejected the « investigations » by Danyo Romijn.
Music is his other passion. He began playing the piano at a young age. At 18, he was interested in hard rock and heavy metal. He played guitar in a metal group called Eclipse, then keyboards and guitar in Pink Project, a Dutch Pink Floyd tribute band. In 1995, he joined the group Nangyala, and in 1997, recorded an album of synthesiser music called Void. Danyo Romijn, alias Danyo Romein, as he was also called by the Floydian Theo, is thus a fan of the British singer, bassist, composer, wordsmith and music producer Roger Waters, the singer of Pink Floyd - the ferocious critic of the White Helmets in Syria – the best friends of Bellngcat? If that does not constitute a conflict of interests!
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Since the highly experienced experts from Australia, Belgium, Malaysia, Holland and Ukraine, who make up the Joint Investigation Team (JIT), were unable to find proof of Russian responsibility for the catastrophe, they rallied to the conclusions of Daniël Romein and the Bellingcat site: i.e. that the plane was brought down by a missile made in Russia – a strange conclusion which does not correspond to the débris of the aircraft. Conclusion

I shall leave the question of whether the Daniël Romein of Bellingcat is the Danyo Romijn investigated by the author to be answered by the reader. But if you should ask my opinion, I would estimate the probability as being close to 100%.
For me, as an ex-professional investigator, there is another question that needs to be asked: in what sort of pitiful state are the investigation teams led by the Dutch authorities and the Joint Investigation Team - to the point that they adopt the do-it-yourself enquiries of an amateur?
Concerning the catastrophe of Flight MH17, we have published the conclusions of the enquiry by Ivan A. Andrievskii, first Vice-President of the Russian Union of Engineers : “Analysis of the reasons for the crash of flight MH17”, by Ivan A. Andrievskii, Оdnako (Russia) , Voltaire Network, 27 September 2014.

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