Meteorite Explodes Over Russia Injures Hundreds

[Niall]

I notieced on SOTT that NASA now has revised their initial estimates upwards.

Now they are saying the meteor was 17 meters in diameter, a weight of 10000 tons and a blast energy equivalent to 500 kilotons http://www.sott.net/article/258507-Russian-meteor-blast-bigger-and-more-powerful-than-thought-NASA-says

In other words, their initial effort to downplay it as a 'basketball-sized rock' failed because of the sheer scale of damage and injuries.

I wouldn't be surprised if it was more like 30 meters diameter.

 

[Possibility of Being]

'February Fireballs' sounds like a BS concept they invented last year to explain away the increase in fireballs.

Looks like they were suggested in 1990:
http://cosmictusk.com/from-space-with-love-february-fireballs-nothing-new/

 

[Explorer]

In whole my life, I have never seen on mainstream news someone talk about conspiracy theories. What is going on???

It could be that faced with first hard evidences of cosmic 'forces' they've never expected to happen in their lives they don't have any plausible meme to present to hypnotized public. As deeply indoctrinated with untruth and therefore best suited to do the job of covering up they suddenly experienced something that strongly shakes their believes - and they fear that picture of 'world' - which was supported by themselves (of course for proper amount of whatever) - is starting to crumble down... Seeing Putin's pale and worried expression while blaming science for not developing advanced means (?) for stopping this comet disasters JET(?)... OF COURSE that government cannot be responsible for this kind (or any) of lapse - and it seems that they are pretty stunned with this and didn't still manage to arrange appropriate attitudes to pass down to their men in media. So mainstream journalists are just left on their own forced to show their true/lousy caliber IMHO...

Yozilla D'monster

So you think that this talk about conspiracy theory is in fact cover up. And real thing is like what? Some weapon of STS forces?
Pretty interesting theory.

The real thing is a meteor that the government can do nothing about. This may be why theories are popping up, to give the idea that the government can do something about forces beyond their control in order to calm the populace.

 

[crystal]

This is interesting...After fireball was seen there was white streak in the sky ...and then meteorite exploded straight to russia!!.... Was it done to prevent hitting the earth or done with objective to change its course???...here is the link below titled UFO broke up the meteorite...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=WaQIPBqoQ-Q

 

[Keit]

The real thing is a meteor that the government can do nothing about. This may be why theories are popping up, to give the idea that the government can do something about forces beyond their control in order to calm the populace.

What's for sure, since meteorite impacts are now on people's minds, it may be more difficult for PTB to conceal them as satellite crashes or rockets falling. But they will certainly do their best with presenting it as a recently discovered meteoroid stream, or an impact they were aware of, etc. But with more destruction and casualties occurring, not to mention possible virus spreading, they will have more and more angry and panicked people on their hands, that will demand answers.

Another possibility is, and as was shown in Chelyabinsk, that authorities will choose not to conceal the truth and will leave it to the public to reach the (erroneous) conclusion or develop conspiracy theories, that it wasn't a meteorite impact, but in fact a secret weapon and war declaration from...(insert the country of your choice). And if the damage will be great enough, they will demand a retaliation, and everything that comes with it will follow. Maybe PTB have several possible scenarios planned, and they will execute them according to the circumstances. Anything will do, in order not to appear as if without control over the situation. Or perhaps until the point their agendas are realized.

 

[Explorer]

The real thing is a meteor that the government can do nothing about. This may be why theories are popping up, to give the idea that the government can do something about forces beyond their control in order to calm the populace.

What's for sure, since meteorite impacts are now on people's minds, it may be more difficult for PTB to conceal them as satellite crashes or rockets falling. But they will certainly do their best with presenting it as a recently discovered meteoroid stream, or an impact they were aware of, etc. But with more destruction and casualties occurring, not to mention possible virus spreading, they will have more and more angry and panicked people on their hands, that will demand answers.

Another possibility is, and as was shown in Chelyabinsk, that authorities will choose not to conceal the truth and will leave it to the public to reach the (erroneous) conclusion or develop conspiracy theories, that it wasn't a meteorite impact, but in fact a secret weapon and war declaration from...(insert the country of your choice). And if the damage will be great enough, they will demand a retaliation, and everything that comes with it will follow. Maybe PTB have several possible scenarios planned, and they will execute them according to the circumstances. Anything will do, in order not to appear as if without control over the situation. Or perhaps until the point their agendas are realized.

It could play very nicely into their hands, then. According to Novus conspiracy theories are already spreading in Russia to some extent, enough to be recognized by the official media at least. This could be very dangerous, actually. Especially if people start clammering for war.

I've already heard theories about the Russian meteor being a shot-down extra-terrestrial craft, no doubt from some Galactic Federation of Space Brothers here to save us. On the other hand I've spoken to people who are utterly convinced that the meteor was shot-down by missile defence systems, and were almost offended when I suggested otherwise. All these theories paint our governments as being in-charge, and to say otherwise would be very scary to some people. Even the idea of it being some kind of foreign aggression suggests that something can be done and that everything is a result of Man, while the reality is the exact opposite.

The idea of painting it as an act of war would seem to be the most profitable to the PTB, although another possibility is that the reality of the threat posed by meteors could be used as a context for making a World Government, everyone banding together to pool resources to fight off the outside threat.

Whatever the case, all that is certain is that the distortion of facts is already in progress.

 

[Novus ordo seclorum]

What is weird in whole story that this conspiracy was on national, mainstream, brainwashing and cover up news!

I don' t know if you in USA have such things, but here in Croatia, it is a miracle.

 

[genero81]

What is weird in whole story that this conspiracy was on national, mainstream, brainwashing and cover up news!

I don' t know if you in USA have such things, but here in Croatia, it is a miracle.

It was reported as a meteor that exploded overhead and blew out windows injuring over 1000 people. With something like 15 people still in the hospital with injuries from broken glass. I do wonder if it had happened over the US if they would have reported it so matter of factly. Since it was way over there, no problem? Because we definitely have "brainwashing and cover up news."

 

[Keit]

It could play very nicely into their hands, then. According to Novus conspiracy theories are already spreading in Russia to some extent, enough to be recognized by the official media at least. This could be very dangerous, actually. Especially if people start clammering for war.

It's actually fascinating reading all the comments about it being a secret weapon of some kind, or a UFO. People are obviously intelligent and make all kind of pretty complicated calculations. Many of them are also confused, because, just like in case of Tunguska, meteorite pieces are yet to be found. But not a word about it being a possible overhead explosion. They are so busy looking for anomalies or trying to explain why it COULDN'T be a meteorite (and as we know, due to several factors, including changes in the atmosphere, meteorites indeed could behave differently than "normal", which adds to confusion), they miss the big picture AND play into PTB hands. Would be interesting to see how this all would turn out.

Here is a link if you know Russian:
_http://oko-planet.su/phenomen/phenomenday/166032-v-chelyabinske-progremel-vzryv.html

Added: A map with details of the impact. Unfortunately, in Russian only. Also, just wanted to add, that I am not sure, of course, but if this were to happen in US, than the response and the way media would deal with it probably would be different than the way it happens in Russia. Maybe it is due to the difference in mentality, but Russians are way more suspicious of authorities, and always think that there is something secret and concealed. So the authorities usually play on this, by either saying nothing (and thus "admitting"), or by "revealing" some kind of "secret" information, which is obviously a disinformation. As for the "nonchalant" response, it is also a reflection of the Russian "skepticism", and there are already jokes all over Russian speaking web, like "nothing is so exhilarating, like a meteorite impact in the morning", or "the military has yet to find meteorite's second black box."

 

[seek10]

what if 2012DA14 actually hit russia???...

You mean, what if this thing that happened was actually that, only they want to hide it and continue to claim that it flew by and no problemo?

Interesting thought indeed.

That 2012 DA 14 business is getting quite interesting.

Have you guys see that (was posted on the 13th on the NASA website)? NASA to Broadcast Asteroid Flyby of Earth: _http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2013/13feb_asteroidcoverage

It was said to be broadcast live on the 15th starting at 2:00 PM EST so I missed it (if it ever happened). Has any of you actually saw it with the "near real-time imagery of the asteroid's flyby"?

Their next article was about more global warming/carbon dioxide hysteria, then the next one about the robot Curiosity on Mars and finally, last one about comet ISON.

Hummm...

My wife and I watched it, but after about 5 minutes the first thing she said to me was "It's a recorded loop playing over and over again." I paid a little more attention and she was correct. You could clearly see where the frames began to repeat by looking at the ISO noise pattern in the pixels repeating approximately every two minutes or so. I only wish there would have been a way to record what we saw for analysis by all of you here.

I saw the live broadcast too and I strongly think that they just moved the camera "every 2 minutes" to be able to hold it in the camera view, thus the "loop" effect. I also looked at the backround stars and it seemed to fit that they changed with every move of the camera.
So nothing strange there IMO. But of course it is enterly possible that they can make such stuff up with their technological capabilities.

I do not necessarily think that they faked anything in this specific comet case, but I do think the thought of "Crystal clear" is a very interesting one to keep in mind!

I watched for 5 minutes. they showed with footage from amateur astronomers from australia, interview with their own experts etc ( like new year shows). I couldn't figure out fake or real. My thought is why this footage from amateurs instead of official sources?. Are they fishing with amateur astronomers.

 

[seek10]

The real thing is a meteor that the government can do nothing about. This may be why theories are popping up, to give the idea that the government can do something about forces beyond their control in order to calm the populace.

Events like this produce lot of narrations from Normalcy biased people. Media can easily give attention to those weird theories and try to debunk it. But more incidents like this will make people suspect the news.

 

[LQB]

Pretty nice trailer here for a production called "Circuits in our Skies" - apparently coming soon.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aXVtSWyJ0M

 

[Explorer]

It could play very nicely into their hands, then. According to Novus conspiracy theories are already spreading in Russia to some extent, enough to be recognized by the official media at least. This could be very dangerous, actually. Especially if people start clammering for war.

It's actually fascinating reading all the comments about it being a secret weapon of some kind, or a UFO. People are obviously intelligent and make all kind of pretty complicated calculations. Many of them are also confused, because, just like in case of Tunguska, meteorite pieces are yet to be found. But not a word about it being a possible overhead explosion. They are so busy looking for anomalies or trying to explain why it COULDN'T be a meteorite (and as we know, due to several factors, including changes in the atmosphere, meteorites indeed could behave differently than "normal", which adds to confusion), they miss the big picture AND play into PTB hands. Would be interesting to see how this all would turn out.

Here is a link if you know Russian:
_http://oko-planet.su/phenomen/phenomenday/166032-v-chelyabinske-progremel-vzryv.html

Added: A map with details of the impact. Unfortunately, in Russian only. Also, just wanted to add, that I am not sure, of course, but if this were to happen in US, than the response and the way media would deal with it probably would be different than the way it happens in Russia. Maybe it is due to the difference in mentality, but Russians are way more suspicious of authorities, and always think that there is something secret and concealed. So the authorities usually play on this, by either saying nothing (and thus "admitting"), or by "revealing" some kind of "secret" information, which is obviously a disinformation. As for the "nonchalant" response, it is also a reflection of the Russian "skepticism", and there are already jokes all over Russian speaking web, like "nothing is so exhilarating, like a meteorite impact in the morning", or "the military has yet to find meteorite's second black box."

I think the problem is that as more people become aware of reality, even the slightest bit, they also become more susceptible to disinformation as they search for truth. This could be an opportune moment for spreading disinformation to "intelligent" people.

Unfortunately I don't speak Russian. However, I think it is probably a good thing that this occurred in Russia, well, as good as it can be, if the mentality is as you described, suspicious and sceptical of authority. Its nice to know that there is already humour being thrown around about the incident. :D

The real thing is a meteor that the government can do nothing about. This may be why theories are popping up, to give the idea that the government can do something about forces beyond their control in order to calm the populace.

Events like this produce lot of narrations from Normalcy biased people. Media can easily give attention to those weird theories and try to debunk it. But more incidents like this will make people suspect the news.

Hopefully you are right, seek, but I think it might go the other way; as things get hairy people may turn to the official media more and more in order to calm their fears and help them go back to sleep. Maybe it will go both ways at once.

 

[Aeneas]

The damage control is clear to be seen. In Denmark as mentioned yesterday the size is still only 10 tons (also today Sunday). While coming back from France today I picked up Le Monde, one of the big newspapers, and I had to go to page 6 where it mentioned that the Russians were still a bit shaken by the 10 tons meteorite.

It can only be deliberate damage control and not sloppy journalism, as a rock that was at least a 1000 times bigger than initally estimated is definitely newsworthy and would have interested many readers. OSIT

If a 10000 tons fell over a city of a million people in the USA, would it be gone from the headlines the world over in less than two days?

 

[loreta]

I notieced on SOTT that NASA now has revised their initial estimates upwards.

Now they are saying the meteor was 17 meters in diameter, a weight of 10000 tons and a blast energy equivalent to 500 kilotons http://www.sott.net/article/258507-Russian-meteor-blast-bigger-and-more-powerful-than-thought-NASA-says

In other words, their initial effort to downplay it as a 'basketball-sized rock' failed because of the sheer scale of damage and injuries.

I wouldn't be surprised if it was more like 30 meters diameter.

At the weather news here in Spain they said that the asteroid was 3 centimeters long. They even put a little rock of 3 centimeters for the spectators. It was funny, like seeing a clown. He did not stop saying: don't worry! the asteroid is just a little rock, like this one!

They really, really, really think we are morons like them.