Hi All -- just wanted to suggest having at look at the "Channel Watch & New Age COINTELPRO" section in this forum for some lively discussion about practicing discernment when interpreting material along these lines.
Like many others, Tsarion may be presenting a lot of helpful truths in alternate language, but not even the C's could guarantee that STS-sourced information wouldn't come through the channel that Laura & group established back in 1994. With what we've learned here about CoIntelPro and its incredible scope, I think practicing discernment can help us gain from material even if it contains elements that can distract us, or worse yet, is designed to take us in and distract us from continuing to search for the truth.
I'm concerned that Tsarion seems to be less than thoroughly discerning with regard to his web site's links headed "Preferred Reference Sites," which links all and sundry without any disclaimer or guidance for the reader. It's an amazing list, potentially enlightening, and yes he links to Cassiopaea, but also to David Icke, Jeff Rense, Aleister Crowley, The Bible, some questionable 9/11 groups, Madame Blavatsky, etc.
Session 941205:
Q: (L) Okay. Now, I would like to know, for the sake of all the Theosophists around the world, what was the source of the information in the book "Isis Unveiled" by Helena Blavatsky?
A: Orions STS and STO. 6th Density.
Q: (L) So, her information was from both sides? And it is up to the reader to figure out which is which?
A: Good idea.
Q: (L) Is there any possibility that the information we get through this source is STS
oriented?
A: Yes. Always possibility.
Isn't it likely that Tsarion's message is also somehow mixed?
Session 020223:
Q: ...(DN) Are 'The Allies of Humanity' a valuable resource?
A: All is of value if examined with an open mind and proper perspective.
Q: ...(V) Well, just from reading the table of contents of this Allies of Humanity book, it looks like they're trying to define a lot of subject matter, they're trying to define what is God, what is... (DG) Spiritual.
A: Or from their perspective.
Q: (V) Where does the information emanate from?
A: Channeled.
Q: (V) Channeled by who? (JN) Channeled by Marshall Summers. (V) But who is it that is channeling through Marshall Summers? (JN) The Allies of Humanity. (V) You are missing my point. That's a name they give themselves. I want to know: what kind of source are they?
A: 4th density.
Q: (V) STS, STO?
A: STO predominates.
Session 941025:
Q: (L) What was the energy fueling the crazy sick life of Aliester Crowley?
A: Lizards.
Session 960609:
Q: (L) Next, Aliester Crowley, who claimed to be the most evil man on the planet: was he capable of doing the things he claimed in his magical operations?
A: No.
If there is STS material in Tsarion's work, you may want to weed it out. The goal of CoIntelPro is ultimately to hide truth -- to disarm, disempower those who are seeking and have discovered some obscured truths. The chief tactic is to speak/write about these truths, usually with an air of authority, to gain trust and build a leadership position. This attracts seekers. Falsehoods are then introduced into the mix so that they will be accepted by followers along with what they already believe and see being reinforced. The actual people propagating CoIntelPro may be witting or unwitting.
Tsarion is interviewed on this page (http://www.bretlueder.com/tsarion.htm), and he says of evil, "It is a genetic trait, or tendency, which begins as general inhumanity and graduates into total idiocy. Evil is a programmed, self-destructive dysfunction..."
First of all, one of the most valuable lessons of the Cass material is that good and evil are entirely subjective. Interpreting actions in terms of STO and STS is far more objective -- a more accurate way of discerning the polarity of choices. So, by focusing on evil, Tsarion is talking about something subjective, something of his own definition, possibly a definition he'd like his readers to share. Doesn't this suggest the possibility that he is misleading, wittingly or not?
Secondly, amid all his vast research (25 years' worth, he says), surely Tsarion has encounterd the concepts of STS and STO. If so, and recognizing the advantage of more objective interpretation of human actions, why does he continue to focus on his subjective evil, a topic and a word that major religions exploit endlessly to exert control over their flocks? If he does know a more objective way of looking at things, IMO, wouldn't he be hiding it by not revealing it? This is just a possibility, of course.
Thirdly -- most important -- his statement that evil is an alien program (and not a conscious choice) seems to take responsibility away from humanity for its plight. This amounts to a major twist away from the basic teaching that we are here to evolve as souls, experiencing the consequences of each choice, gathering and acting upon knowledge, etc.
I'm not sure yet of all that Tsarion suggests we do instead, though he also said, "The solution is organic and has to do with the Earth's core," he said. "We have to wake up the Earth. All of the teachings are useless unless we are all facing the center; focusing all of our attention and intention towards the middle-the crystal core." On the surface, at least, this seems to be a deliberate distraction, a redirection of energy and efforts away from seeking truth and choosing polarity, and into an endeavor that may be fruitless. If so, that would be disempowering -- a goal of CoIntelPro.
For anyone here who's read Tsarion, how do you feel about his focus on magic? Why does he use this charged word? He seems to use it to describe both spritual knowledge and high technology. The interview article states:
...the Fathers have an understanding and practicable knowledge of the soul. He says this involves magic, or the use of intention, symbolism, and ritual, to communicate with one's spirit self.
Well, we know how the C's are just death on ritual. From Session 941005:
A: You are good to do it this way without ritual.
Q: (L) What ritual do you want us to do?
A: None.
Q: (L) Does ritual enhance or prevent communication?
A: Constricts.
Session 941022:
Q: (L) Are there any rituals that can be performed to provide protection for one against
intrusion by the Lizzies.
A: Rituals are self-defeating... The only defense needed is knowledge.
In Session 950723, the C's stated, "...we have recommended against all rituals, because ritual restricts the flow, thereby restricting the possibilities."
This magic(k) stuff always seems to be big on rituals.
In the list that Frost2pro entered, I think that Item 12 reinforces the idea that we don't have free will, that we're not to blame for our negative choices:
12. The hybridization of our human DNA explains our aggressive, warlike, and destructive behavior (until we address the root cause of what makes us evil then we will continue rape, pillage, and plunder our 'Earth Mother' which sustains us, while commiting atrocities against ourselves to the point of mass ecocide/genocide.
This seems to discount the whole issue of polarity and choice. Instead of seeking truth, gathering knowledge, and acting upon it, Tsarion suggests that the truth is already known and merely needs to be "addressed." Do you agree?
Unfortunately, it looks to me like Tsarion's work would attract lots of seekers on the path, only to lead them on a side trip where the guide says, "Stop seeking, I have the answers. Contemplate the Earth's core," or something, anything, rather than keep on seeking. After all, once you think you have the answer, aren't you likely to stop searching? If reality really is infinite (or close to it), well, you get the idea.
Any thoughts?
