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Re: FIR Sauna Burning Problem

I and my friends have blankets from Promolife, which are reasonably priced (400US or so plus shipping) and which so far have performed well on a once or twice a week schedule. The issues posted here may well have been a one-off problem of a manufacturing run, afaict. I am sorry to hear Promolife was not on top of things in terms of customer service :( The upside of getting a blanket from Europe is that there is advice and support from the company in getting started. We've made use of the material here in the forum as well as Sherry Roger's book, Detoxify or Die. I guess it does come down to budget.
 
Re: FIR Sauna Burning Problem

Thanks for the input Stranger and herondancer.

Stranger, I was looking at the Sunlighten products, as recommended by Dr. Hyman, but the price is just too much for me. Also, since I'm only in a semi-permanent situation (I'm a renter) installing a large sauna isn't really an option. I don't have a place to put it, for one thing. The dome would be nice, but it's $2200. Not in my price range.

I think I'm going to go with the blanket from Promolife once some money I'm expecting comes through. Despite the few faulty ones reported in this thread, it sounds like most people are happy with what they got from these guys.

Thanks again for the tips.
 
Re: FIR Sauna Burning Problem

herondancer said:
The one I have is a PH-2B (III).
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Ok that's what I have. I got mine from eBay two years ago. The problem I am having is that recently the top part of the underside has started to rip open. I'm not sure why. I am careful with it and rarely use it lately. Here's a pic so you can see what I mean. Anyone else had this happen? I guess I'm going to have to duct tape it up.
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Re: FIR Sauna Burning Problem

Did you get one from an asian manufacturer? I was always leery of doing that because there's no recourse for problems like yours. It may be the maker cheaped out on the coating. Also how hot were you running it and how often, may be a factor in the blanket's failure.

Not sure duct tape would be a good idea. How is it rated for high temps? If it's ok for that, I would run the blanket in an airy space for a while in case there's outgassing from the adhesive.
 
Re: FIR Sauna Burning Problem

herondancer said:
Did you get one from an asian manufacturer? I was always leery of doing that because there's no recourse for problems like yours. It may be the maker cheaped out on the coating. Also how hot were you running it and how often, may be a factor in the blanket's failure.

Not sure duct tape would be a good idea. How is it rated for high temps? If it's ok for that, I would run the blanket in an airy space for a while in case there's outgassing from the adhesive.
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The company I bought it from is based in Florida. I do usually run it on the highest setting. I'm not sure the duct tape is a good idea either but I'm not sure what else to do. It's been like that for about a month. Fortunately it hasn't gotten any worse yet.
 
FIR Sauna - Not sweating

Recently purchased a FIR sauna, but it does,nt allow me to sweat.

Called the manufacturer and said the room it is in should be 70 degrees celsius (158 Degrees Farenheit), this would need to be achieved by blow heaters and heating up the Sauna for 45 minutes prior to using to get sweat ...... what do you think ???

http://www.zokiuk.co.uk/heat_aboutus.asp

The brand I have is a 1412, and has 5 heaters installed.

Is this normal .... got the Sauna specifically for heavy metal detox.
 
Re: FIR Sauna - Not sweating

Hi crumdub12,

Welcome to the forum. :) We recommend all new members to post an introduction in the Newbies section telling us a bit about themselves, and how they found their way here. Have a read through that section to get an idea of how others have done it. Thanks.
 
Re: FIR Sauna - Not sweating

crumdub12 said:
Recently purchased a FIR sauna, but it does,nt allow me to sweat.

Called the manufacturer and said the room it is in should be 70 degrees celsius (158 Degrees Farenheit), this would need to be achieved by blow heaters and heating up the Sauna for 45 minutes prior to using to get sweat ...... what do you think ???

http://www.zokiuk.co.uk/heat_aboutus.asp

The brand I have is a 1412, and has 5 heaters installed.

Is this normal .... got the Sauna specifically for heavy metal detox.
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Have you read "Detoxify or Die" by Sherry Rogers? If not, you should. She addresses the sweating issue.

Don't try to push it. Keep it at a low temp and just enjoy the warmth. Eventually, you will start sweating. It may take a month of using it regularly. Above all, do not turn the temp up high just to force sweating!!

You could take a brisk walk before getting in the sauna, but still, keep it at a lower temp.
 
Re: FIR Sauna - Not sweating

Laura said:
crumdub12 said:
Recently purchased a FIR sauna, but it does,nt allow me to sweat.

Called the manufacturer and said the room it is in should be 70 degrees celsius (158 Degrees Farenheit), this would need to be achieved by blow heaters and heating up the Sauna for 45 minutes prior to using to get sweat ...... what do you think ???

http://www.zokiuk.co.uk/heat_aboutus.asp

The brand I have is a 1412, and has 5 heaters installed.

Is this normal .... got the Sauna specifically for heavy metal detox.
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Have you read "Detoxify or Die" by Sherry Rogers? If not, you should. She addresses the sweating issue.

Don't try to push it. Keep it at a low temp and just enjoy the warmth. Eventually, you will start sweating. It may take a month of using it regularly. Above all, do not turn the temp up high just to force sweating!!

You could take a brisk walk before getting in the sauna, but still, keep it at a lower temp.
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You want to get as much infra-red as possible to penetrate the skin to get all the benefice of detoxing. Start it and get inside when the temp. is close to approximately 100 F. That way, the heater are continuously on and diffuse infra-red non stop and that is what you want. The heat make you sweet but the infra-red penetrate up to 2 inch the skin and detox more deeply than other sauna which count only on the heat. Do not push it like Laura wrote,30 min. at to begin is good, by the end the sauna should be close to 150 F and gave FIR from the beginning till the end of the session. Sweat will come as you detox, don't worry.
 
Re: FIR Sauna - Not sweating

crumdub12 said:
Recently purchased a FIR sauna, but it does,nt allow me to sweat.

Called the manufacturer and said the room it is in should be 70 degrees celsius (158 Degrees Farenheit), this would need to be achieved by blow heaters and heating up the Sauna for 45 minutes prior to using to get sweat ...... what do you think ???

http://www.zokiuk.co.uk/heat_aboutus.asp

The brand I have is a 1412, and has 5 heaters installed.

Is this normal .... got the Sauna specifically for heavy metal detox.
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I had similar issues for some months. after taking NAC, viamin C and lot of water helped some what after some time . But I got serious sweating only after I started DMSA routine. As laura suggested , read the detoxify or die book to avoid lot of confusion and hurdles. Too many possibilities can happen.
 
Re: FIR Sauna - Not sweating

Thank you Laura, Laurentien and Seek for your prompt reply


Thought I read "detoxify or die" , will have to go over it again !!


Laura,

I am pretty fit, so may train before sauna to see if this may move this forward.


Laurentien,

Do not know if heaters alone will bring the temperature in the Sauna to 100 Far., may need to use external heater to get Sauna up to this temp.

Sauna has a preheat function, and dial that goes from 1 - 10, when I asked about temperature levels from 1 - 10, was told that sauna would not be heated . and it was the body temperature that would go up ......

Seek,

Is this the DMSA you use:

http://dmsachelation.com/store/buy-120-capsules-of-dmsa/
 
Re: FIR Sauna - Not sweating

Laurentien,

Do not know if heaters alone will bring the temperature in the Sauna to 100 Far., may need to use external heater to get Sauna up to this temp.

Sauna has a preheat function, and dial that goes from 1 - 10, when I asked about temperature levels from 1 - 10, was told that sauna would not be heated . and it was the body temperature that would go up ......
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Why do they call it a sauna then. Definition of a sauna from Wikipedia; A sauna is a small room or house designed as a place to experience dry or wet heat sessions, or an establishment with one or more of these and auxiliary ...

I read in the link that you give that the FIR emitted by your sauna heat the body 80% and the air 20%.
A session in a Heatwave is a totally pleasant and rewarding experience with the user able to select whatever temperature they wish their bodies to be, without the discomfort of the air being too warm. This is because the emitters in the Heatwave heat up the person rather than the air. Out of 100% infrared energy only 20% heats up the air and 80% is converted to heat within our bodies.
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It is the first time that I read these sort of specification. FIR sauna produce less heat than a conventional sauna but usually produce heat up to 160 F. One way that the body detox is by sweating, I read that up to 30% of the toxin are evacuated that way. Combining heat and FIR enhance the percentage of toxin in the sweat and that is it quality. Is infrared sufficient to detox without the heat that produce the sweating, I don't know. I'm no expert on infra-red wave, you will need someone else opinion on this.

from your site;
It is also very important to keep the heat within an infrared sauna and a single skinned wall section of as thin as 12mm – 15mm will not do this.
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O.k but your sauna emit FIR but no heat!!

Check out our specifications list: black light curved far infrared emitters:
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Maybe check what is the efficiency of this black light curved far infrared emitters, their is nothing in the specification, study or comparison except their word that it is the best.

There are many grade of ceramic FIR emitters, it is important to learn as much as possible before you buy.
 
Re: FIR Sauna - Not sweating

crumdub12 said:
Is this the DMSA you use:

http://dmsachelation.com/store/buy-120-capsules-of-dmsa/
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That is the one we got. It definitely works.
 
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