'Missing 411', by David Paulides: Tracking unusual missing persons cases
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Yes, there are many other youtubers who upload old interviews labelling them with new date. It's better to check "Current events" section on his website where he usually announces new interviews.
Cleo said:
Fascinating talk! Thanks for posting. I'm always impressed by the objective mindset David Paulides shows. I've read one of his Missing 411 books and was definitely disturbed by it and how he lays out all the case files. I really enjoy hiking and camping when I have the time to go, but after reading his work, have never really felt as safe as I used to when camping overnight. And rightfully so. I'm definitely going to purchase his documentary DVD and read his Tribal Bigfoot book soon.
findit said:
Spoiler Alert:
Watched it now as well and recommend highly as well. Overall I think they made a pretty good job with this movie and especially the end leaves one distraught and bewildered to the phenomenon itself and compassionate to the tragedy those people have to live through. It also leaves one angry at the end, for why the authorities do not help the victims and families by investigating and compiling the thousands of missing cases and making it public. I also think it is quite courageous from Paulides and co to bring up in the end the strangeness of it all and that we might deal with a phenomenon that has long been here and that we can't fully understand.
I think it was the right decision from Paulides to not be the centre of that documentary and instead let the cases speak for themselves and the sorrow the people have to face who are confronted with such a situation. That is in line with what he said on numerous occasions, that the most important thing for him is to help the victims by shedding more attention to that mystery and forcing people to confront that issue. I think the way they present the issue there will make many people quite eager and determent to question there authorities why they don't keep track of it and help the victims and the public through it. I'm also glad that Les Stroud (the famous survivor man) was pretty outspoken in the documentary and brought the strangeness of it all home, that we are dealing with a global phenomenon, and put the focus on the authorities and how they handle it.
I also guess that another part of Paulides decision to not be the centre there is probably related to his research. He probably felt that being the centre will make it harder for him to make further research in that area to help the victims.
Pashalis said:
Yeah, it is Erie.
From Paulides events http://www.canammissing.com/current_events.html
6/1- Here is an East Idaho News story: David's son gives (his views to a local Idaho news station) the scoop on the documentary.
‘Missing 411’ documentary explores disappearance of DeOrr Kunz, other children Video 8:21
https://www.eastidahonews.com/2017/06/missing-411-documentary-explores-disappearance-deorr-kunz-children/
How are you approaching the idea of camping? You are still going camping? If you are going camping, are you doing anything in particular to prevent being disappeared like these victims? I know Paulides mentioned having a firearm and an emergency rescue beacon; even if I have both, I don't think the other people in my camping group would have either of them and I worry about their safety.
I'm trying to figure out what to tell and how to tell the people that I might go camping with the dangers out there. The only practical thing I can think of is staying together and not being alone.
I'm trying to figure out what to tell and how to tell the people that I might go camping with the dangers out there. The only practical thing I can think of is staying together and not being alone.
I've a friend who is totally into wilderness hiking and camping, and has been for years (He's 65). And he's never experienced anything out of the ordinary, with the exception of a couple of encounters with bears. But he's a big and incredibly strong and robust person, not the usual candidate for a disappearance.
Btw, got the local public library to order the documentary dvd and the latest Missing 411 book. I've got the interest piqued of one of the librarians on this topic, so he's gone all out to get this material.
Btw, got the local public library to order the documentary dvd and the latest Missing 411 book. I've got the interest piqued of one of the librarians on this topic, so he's gone all out to get this material.
I too think that the documentary is a good watch and for a first documentary it is very well done. It is down to earth with not too many suggestions what may happened to the victims, because all of these would be just speculations.
I think it was also for the interviewees very difficult to talk about it and was imo courageous that they did it nonetheless to show that many people disappeared in the wilderness with almost no traces and is something to wonder about.
I think it was also for the interviewees very difficult to talk about it and was imo courageous that they did it nonetheless to show that many people disappeared in the wilderness with almost no traces and is something to wonder about.
hlat said:
I've not been camping or backpack for about 15 years. I think your caution is valid but fear should not let you enjoy the great outdoors. But rather Knowledge could be your guide stone.
Question's?
*Is your camp group in consensus with your revelation of this Phenomena? Cognoscente of the importance of stay together when backpacking and hiking, from he day base camp on excursions?
*Would everyone be thoroughly in acceptance and the importance staying together a s group? With a commitment of the per-planned route and trail that will accessed by all?
*Is everyone in shape with the attempted difficulty of the terrain and it's rating? Will each and everyone carry hard copy maps, and a good quality compass? And possess the skills to implement them?
*Will there be back up system considered of (limited verse's powerful alternative), held portable radios communication devices (where cell reception is nonexistence). As David always carried a satellite phone with him.
*Where one venture's to the outdoors have there been recent or past incidents of 411 activity's
May 2017
http://npmaps.com/wp-content/uploads/yosemite-valley-hiking-map.jpg
https://tahoetowhitney.com/Yosemite/Yosemite-Valley/yosemite-valley-big-maps/central-yosemite-backpacking-map.html
https://www.mymotherlode.com/news/local/298336/missing-hiker-in-yosemite.html
Hot Spots (Dave's Map)
*Are you and anyone experienced with having the skills, of dealing with a medical emergency in the middle of no where? Far from civilization.
*And with Firearms, you may be aware that many local camps sights may even prohibit firearms within certain boudoirs of state controlled parks.
*If you review some the past shows on this thread, he talk's about firearms. He's former law enforcement, and they generally permit carry for life. David mentioned firearms, but also stated that having them as means of signaling a location to the area of distress. Venturing out into the thick of a deep forest, packing a firearm considering bear, and other predatory encounter's, is understandably a consideration.
*As would you, and are all, in compliance with firearms safety, having doc.'s indicting proficiency, and the knowledge of the responsibility's?
https://www.nols.edu/en/coursefinder/courses/wilderness-first-responder-WFR/
*And would using local social media and accessing backpacking forums have information? And that perhaps certain groups may indeed be actively participating a group-mindset of acknowledging the very possibility's of 411 event?
Missing 411 by David Paulides
https://twitter.com/search?f=tweets&q=Missing%20411%20by%20David%20Paulides
"If You Go Down To The Woods Today..."
_http://missionquest.fpb.yuku.com/topic/4922/quotIf-You-Go-Down-To-The-Woods-Todayquot?page=2#.WTUc8rh27mc
https://youtu.be/cqLmwUF-bFw
We also have many on the forum whom are far more knowledgeable that may provide clue's. Good luck dude.
Knowledge
http://www.azquotes.com/public/picture_quotes/eb/d7/ebd7f79f4425737ab8f9e0da7924f801/james-m-barrie-606472.jpg
Blue Rock Talk with Connie Willis presents: ~ RON MOREHEAD ~ THE QUANTUM BIGFOOT
Published on Apr 21, 2017 (1:39:03)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qbx0Yl7w7z8
2017 BIGFOOT DOCUMENTARY - THE WILDMAN INTERLUDE:
A Short Bigfoot Documentary Published on Apr 7, 2017
https://youtu.be/KLywxWyw6dU
Published on Apr 21, 2017 (1:39:03)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qbx0Yl7w7z8
Bigfoot expert, author and the man behind the Sierra Sounds Ron Morehead Gets "Physic"-al in THE QUANTUM BIGFOOT!
Join myself and Ron Morehead discussing his new theories and research from his latest book, while having a few laughs too!
Description:
So how does quantum physics relate to spirituality and Bigfoot? In Ron Morehead’s 45+ years of researching this phenomenon, he has heard several very strange reports. A few of these reports, from seemingly heartfelt people, claimed that these creatures disappeared. Is that even possible? Can the laws of quantum physics actually answer that question?
2017 BIGFOOT DOCUMENTARY - THE WILDMAN INTERLUDE:
A Short Bigfoot Documentary Published on Apr 7, 2017
https://youtu.be/KLywxWyw6dU
Jtucker
Jedi Master
I watched this tonight, and the researcher seems sincere in his search. He does mention the hyper-dimensional aspect of Sasquatch as a possibility at the beginning but dismisses it in favour of his own belief that they must be a hominid beyond apes but before humans in the evolutionary chain.
One thing that stuck out to me was that he described his research outings as heading out to "hot spots" for sightings. The first place he went to was near Port Alberni on Vancouver Island and the second was near Rocky Mountain house in Alberta. Although I don't keep up with every single report in western Canada, I do watch Sasquatch news feeds and follow the BFRO website regularly (as well as living in Western Canada and traveling through it frequently), he was not in any historical hot spots.
There are a number of multiple sightings in clusters in Canada, but from what I have read, the best documented hot spots have been in the Fraser Valley of BC. Harrison Hot Springs and Yale BC have produced the highest frequency and most detailed reports in Canada going back to the 1800's. If these young guys in the video had done any research, they would have known this. Harrison Hot Springs and Yale are easier to access off the Trans-Canada Highways than any logging road on Vancouver Island is.
A friend of mine who installs cable in Vancouver was lucky enough to end up at a Sasquatch researcher named Chris Murphy's apartment in Vancouver and got to see numerous plaster casts of prints and was given a copy of his book that detailed a capture of juvenile Sasquatch in 1884 in Yale BC.
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/15122950-yale-the-strange-story-of-jacko-the-ape-boy
So as Paulides has described the majority of Sasquatch field investigators as "guys howling in the bush knocking on trees" in one of the above mentioned videos, I think unfortunately, a lot of well intentioned people fall into that trap.
As to reconciling the "hyper-dimensional" elements of Sasquatch that Ra and the C's have described, I don't know how the "Jacko" juvenile Sasquatch caught in Yale managed to be physical for so long. But it would explain the body's disappearance. One thing Paulides mentioned in his DNA investigations on the Klamath was that the DNA he had tested was "broken" - which he didn't really elaborate on. I don't think cells can be built by DNA if DNA strands are broken? That may indicate some sort of actual physical evidence that points to hyper-dimensionality?
Although Sasquatch is not 100% part of the Missing 411 phenomenon, so much amateur "Squatchin" can easily muddy the waters.
A good perspective of both the obsession and the frustration is a short interview with a researcher who spent decades in the bush looking for the Sasquatch, Rene Dahinden.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jc8oiJ3fN3c&t=755s
I don't think this encounter ever made the BFRO or any other Sasquatch message board. My parents and many friends have lived in Northwestern Ontario for decades and any mention I ever made of Sasquatch was usually laughed at. But here's an account from a family friend that is pretty compelling. A guy who has spent his life in the woods and never experienced anything like this...
http://yournorthernconnection.com/categories/view/stories
Published on Jun 16, 2017
secureteam10
https://youtu.be/UMrsdHw6iXs
Dave's Website: http://www.canammissing.com
Missing 411 is now available on all digital platforms worldwide:
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secureteam10
https://youtu.be/UMrsdHw6iXs
Dave's Website: http://www.canammissing.com
Missing 411 is now available on all digital platforms worldwide:
iTunes link: http://radi.al/Missing411
Amazon link: https://goo.gl/f4jTsn
Follow Him On Twitter: @canammissing
angelburst29
The Living Force
Turgon said:
I enjoyed the video and the way David Paulides presented himself, mainly stating facts and data. It was also interesting to listen to his experience with the different Indian Tribes and that among Tribes, Bigfoot is considered "more human" and doesn't fit the label "Ape" as a description. Unfortunately, media still calls Bigfoot as a ape-like-creature, like in this recent weekend report in the Charlotte Observer.
NC group reports Bigfoot sighting over the weekend northwest of Charlotte August 07, 2017
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/local/article165801402.html
A “large bipedal animal covered in hair” was reported in North Carolina’s McDowell County over the weekend.
In other words, a Bigfoot: The ape-like creature that cryptozoologists believe roams the nation’s backwoods.
The sighting happened just before 11 p.m. Friday in a forested area. No one was injured, though the group reports something threw rocks at them as they left the area. McDowell County is about 100 miles northwest of Charlotte.
John Bruner of the Marion-based group Bigfoot 911 reported the event on the group’s Facebook page Saturday. Bigfoot 911 is one of a handful of groups around the country that investigate reports of Bigfoot sightings, mostly in places average people don’t go at night.
Bruner says a team of seven people were out at the time, scattering glow sticks in the woods. (Bigfoot 911 members believe glow sticks pique the curiosity of a Bigfoot.) It was the sight of one of those glow sticks moving through the woods that got Bruner’s attention.
“I turned on my headlamp and saw a large bi-pedal animal covered in hair,” said Bruner in his Facebook post.
The animal took off, and Bruner says he ran after it, eventually prompting a brief stare-down next to a dead tree.
“Its face was solid black, no hair on it. The hair looked shaggy all over,” Bruner said.
Then it took off, not to be seen again, he said. Bruner told the Observer Sunday it is the best sighting he’s had in years of searching for the animal.
“I was able to see details of the creature … like the face, and the hair was matted and stringy. The eyes were farther apart than human eyes.”
Belief in the existence of Bigfoot is a brush fire that wildlife experts can’t seem to put out. National Geographic reports there is a wealth of circumstantial evidence: eyewitness accounts, blurry photographs, mysterious footprints. However, there’s a lack of undeniable proof, and that has made skeptics of scientists, who insist the sightings are often misidentifications of other animals.
It’s finding proof that drives Bigfoot 911. Bruner says the group had been out two hours Friday when the animal was sighted. He says he wasn’t scared but was more interested in getting a closer look.
“I knew it was my chance to see it up close,” he said. “I didn’t appear aggressive. We had eye contact for 5 to 10 seconds.”
One thing he says he didn’t notice was the bad smell that is so often tied to Bigfoot folklore.
Bigfoot 911 is a small but dedicated group of investigators who have quietly spent the past few years poking around the woods of McDowell County in search of the legendary Bigfoot, or as some call him, Sasquatch.
The group formed in 2014 and claims to have extensive evidence that Bigfoot exists. It has about 50 members.
There have been multiple reports of Bigfoot sightings in Western North Carolina in recent years.
The Asheville Citizen-Times reported last year that the Animal Planet series “Finding Bigfoot” saw enough anecdotal evidence in North Carolina to warrant a visit to film an episode. “Finding Bigfoot” follows four researchers who track the mythical beast around the world, guided by local lore.
In August of 2015, the Citizen-Times released a video of a purported Western North Carolina Bigfoot sighting that went viral.
To contact Bigfoot 911, visit their Facebook page here or email bigfoot911bobr@gmail.com. The Facebook page has plenty of photos, including photos of what many posters swear are footprints of a Bigfoot.
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