'Missing 411', by David Paulides: Tracking unusual missing persons cases

I think that particular video of the supposed Bigfoot seen from a train has been shown to be a fake in another thread but I could be mistaken.
Probably fake, but no definite proof. There's a bigfoot business nearby, and they hinted in a social media post that it was one of them wearing a bigfoot costume and posing for the train. So, depends on whether we should believe them! ;-D
 
Thanks, forgot about the details and only retained that it wasn't a sure thing. My guess is that a plausibility of a genuine bigfoot observation can be compounded by any other strangeness in the region and time-frame like UFO sightings and strange disappearances even if not all UFOs are seen and temporary portals can open and close with none there to get lost through one of them. It's circumstantial at best and all we can do is to estimate probabilities.
 
I think that particular video of the supposed Bigfoot seen from a train has been shown to be a fake in another thread but I could be mistaken.
I'm not a Bigfoot expert but the little I know is they are very illusive and don't want to be seen by humans. So showing itself like this is a red flag perhaps. The zoomed video I saw showed the fur to be long and sleek similar to Chewbacca but better groomed. Id say as a Bigfoot costume it was on the higher end of quality. Or maybe its a Bigfoot with an elevated status as opposed to the more lowly, grungy and stinky type hence its impeccable grooming. :-)

I've done some searching for more definite explanations for it being fake but haven't found much at all and the general opinion is its fake. But thats to be expected. One "expert" said its not muscular enough for Bigfoot.

One little quirky coincidence is the sighting was on October 8 and Davids conference in Montana was on Oct. 7 & 8. He's probably already seen this video as it seems to have made a big splash on the net.

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David recommends the presentation by Jonathan Dover, a Native American investigator on paranormal events. For me, its interesting to hear the perspectives of people with this background on the subject because its more historical and informed in a different way then the more new comers to the subject. He speaks of investigating Bigfoot sightings, orbs and little greys, that Natives have experienced. He gives a detailed explanation of Skinwalkers, a very evil bunch. I'm half way in.

 
Probably fake, but no definite proof. There's a bigfoot business nearby, and they hinted in a social media post that it was one of them wearing a bigfoot costume and posing for the train. So, depends on whether we should believe them! ;-D
I saw this explanation and tracked it down a bit. I believe it refers to the Sasquatch Expedition Campers RV business. Its said the owner has a Bigfoot costume he's been known to dress up in. So not really a bigfoot business. The locals in Silverton claim ignorance with the whole deal.

"Skeptics on Reddit speculated that the sighting could have been a hoax perpetrated by the nearby Silverton-based RV company Sasquatch Expedition Campers. The company, however, is denying involvement.

“We, The Sasquatch Crew, feel compelled to address recent allegations and rumors that have been circulating, suggesting our involvement in the train sighting," the company wrote Thursday in a Facebook post. "We want to make it unequivocally clear: It wasn’t us."

 
I saw this explanation and tracked it down a bit. I believe it refers to the Sasquatch Expedition Campers RV business. Its said the owner has a Bigfoot costume he's been known to dress up in. So not really a bigfoot business. The locals in Silverton claim ignorance with the whole deal.

"Skeptics on Reddit speculated that the sighting could have been a hoax perpetrated by the nearby Silverton-based RV company Sasquatch Expedition Campers. The company, however, is denying involvement.

“We, The Sasquatch Crew, feel compelled to address recent allegations and rumors that have been circulating, suggesting our involvement in the train sighting," the company wrote Thursday in a Facebook post. "We want to make it unequivocally clear: It wasn’t us."

Interesting. So there's still a chance! :lol: Here was the tweet I found, where the owner (allegedly) hinted at being responsible:

 
Interesting. So there's still a chance! :lol: Here was the tweet I found, where the owner (allegedly) hinted at being responsible:
LOL! Yes, I guess there is still a chance! I actually looked for a picture of that business owner in his Bigfoot suit and it looks like this is it! Pretty crappy looking..... not the same at all. In fact I think he bought this on Amazon since I had a look to see what bigfoot outfits one can buy. Nothing comes close enough to the one in the video, custom made perhaps, or maybe its REAL! :shock:

This was the best match i found except for the head.

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An update on the DM website. Emile has not been found:

In the article that @Ca. posted earlier this was already mentioned, but I think the following is really bizarre considering a toddler is missing:
Vernet's mayor François Balique ordered an end to public access to the village on July 14 to protect the investigation to protect the families living in the village from 'curiosity tourism', with the decree being extended until the end of August.
So, that means that the village was cordoned off after they ended the search after only four days?
 
This incident seems to have similar characteristics to a 411 missing case.

But that is just my 2 cents, and perhaps more information will come in one of Daves's future reports.

Published December 7, 2023 12:18pm EST
Ann Herford, 66, had gone hiking near Arnold Rim Trail in Arnold, California, in mid-November
A traveling nurse practitioner who prompted a weeks-long search after disappearing on a Northern California hiking trail last month died of exposure, according to officials and a local report.

Ann Herford, a 66-year-old Michigan resident, was found dead on November 30 on a steep hillside near the Arnold Rim Trail in Arnold after going missing in the area two weeks earlier, the Calaveras County Sheriff’s Office said last week. Herford’s death was not considered suspicious.

On Wednesday, the Huron Daily Tribune in Michigan reported that the Calaveras County Coroner ruled Herford’s official cause of death as exposure. Fox News Digital reached out to the coroner's office but did not immediately hear back.

Herford was staying alone at the Best Western in Sonora and was last heard from on November 11, when she had "expressed interest in hiking" during a breakfast with a friend, according to authorities.

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Herford was reported missing days later after failing to show up for work at Adventist Health in Sonora.

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Hundreds of searchers took part in the effort to locate Herford over the next several weeks, combing dense forest, thick manzanita and mountainous terrain by air and ground.

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Deputies and search teams found Herford’s body on a 35-degree sloped hillside beneath a heavy tree canopy and dense foliage near San Antonio Creek, north of where her vehicle was found parked on November 12, the sheriff’s office said.

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Family members had told authorities that she enjoyed hiking, though she lacked the necessary skills to survive in the wilderness and would never plan to travel more than a couple of miles at a time.


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There are some brief details discussed in this article by El Día on Tom Marsh - translated to English. There are a few odd points (IMO):

Nothing much has been reported from Chile on Mr. Marsh since 2022, albeit with this September 2023 update. That said, recall this December 2022 sessions:

(Joe) Oh yeah... Just this past September, there was a very prestigious and well-thought-of English astronomer from Oxford. He was a quiet guy who was at the observatory in Chile. He'd gone there many times. This September he went there and they were gonna do their usual tour or whatever. After the first night I think, basically one or two nights after he was there, he went missing. He was missing for 50 days. He was only found in November a few kilometers away. It's like a desert in Chile. That's why they have these telescopes there. But according to the PhD student that was with him, he reportedly said to the police that the professor guy said something very bizarre to him. Then he criticized him for not being as dedicated to the cause as he should be. That was the day before he went missing. So, he just disappeared. And he was found 50 days later partly clothed and dead in the desert. It was talked about by David Paulides as a Missing 411 case. I was wondering if that's what it was, or...?

A: Yes

Q: (Joe) Was it just random?

A: No

Q: (Joe) It had something to do with the research he was involved in?

A: Yes

Q: (Joe) He focused specifically on binary star systems.

A: Yes

Q: (Joe) I was wondering if he maybe had come up with some theory about a twin sun being...?

A: Yes

Q: (Niall) Did he observe something?

A: Yes!!

Q: (Joe) And that was the "bizarre" thing that the student said to him?

A: Yes

Q: (Joe) So he was basically silenced by...

A: Yes

Q: (Joe) Does that mean we're gonna see some stuff soon?

A: Yes. Oh yes!

Translated by Deeple:

One year after the astronomer's death: What is the status of the Thomas Marsh case?

The regional prosecutor, Adrián Vega, explained that the case is still formally ongoing, as all the details that may be revealed by the thanatological and entomological examinations must be reviewed.

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This 15 September marked the one-year anniversary of the disappearance of British astronomer Thomas Marsh, 61, who was missing for 55 days after arriving at the La Silla observatory, owned by the international consortium European Southern Observatory (ESO).

The astrophysicist had landed in Chile on 14 September 2022 in the company of a first-year PhD student from the University of Warwick (England), who was the last person to see him alive.

His disappearance prompted an extensive search and rescue effort, which bore fruit almost two months later.
In fact, Marsh's body was found in a terrain that was difficult to access, to which only specialised personnel from the Gope de Carabineros could gain access.

According to those involved in the search, one of the strategies that led to the discovery of the scientist's whereabouts was to repeatedly revisit those sectors that were considered key to the search, allowing for a more thorough knowledge of the area and a more specific trail.

The point where the body was found, in fact, was within the so-called "site of interest" delimited by the investigation of the Coquimbo Regional Prosecutor's Office, based on the evidence found in the areas during the eight weeks in which the work was extended.

In this regard, the Coquimbo regional prosecutor, Adrián Vega, indicated that, for 55 days, the area of La Silla was searched by quadrants, with the hypothesis of a possible accident.

"He was hiking and would have taken unusual routes. Once the body had been found, after almost two months, the necessary forensic, thanatological (sic), chemical and entomological tests were carried out to establish what had happened," said the prosecutor.

In this sense, Vega is emphatic in pointing out that the involvement of third parties has been ruled out, with the most likely hypothesis of the cause of death being a fall.

"It is not that he went astray and died of starvation and cold, it was a fall because it is a steep area," said the lawyer.
In this sense, Vega affirmed that all the hypotheses were studied and, for the same reason, the Homicide Brigade, the Human Search Brigade, the Gope and the Army worked in the search in case it had been a mountain accident.

"The task forces were formed according to the hypotheses. Homicide worked on the (thesis) of a disappearance by a third party or an attempt on the astronomer's life. In addition, the Search for Persons analysed the possibility of an accident," said the prosecutor.

The prosecutor also stated that all reports were investigated at the time.

"Everything that arrived was processed and did not provide precise information until the discovery of the Gope in November," he said.
In this regard, the regional prosecutor clarified that the case for the death of the astronomer has not been closed, since it is being studied by the Public Prosecutor's Office and the results will be communicated to Marsh's family.

"The case appears to be formally ongoing, but to determine when it is closed we have to communicate the details to the family. But we have to see that there is no need for further action that can be established in this analysis that is being done," he said.

However, the prosecutor clarified that in cases where the search is very extensive, as in the case of this investigation, all the details must be analysed and all the necessary steps must be taken.

"We have to see if there are any other steps that can be taken to refine the autopsy or the thanatological and entomological examination," said the regional prosecutor.

Vega clarified that, in any case, after finding him and performing the autopsy, Thomas Marsh's body was sent to England three months later, so that his family could bury him.

According to El Día, the astronomer's disappearance led the authorities at La Silla observatory to double their protocols, so that now a scientist or person on the premises must note his departure, indicating the destination and how long it will take. The aim is to ensure that this type of event does not happen again.
  • The article covers ground that he was last seen by the PhD student (note discussion be the Cs).
  • 55 days goes by in open rocky ground, under a tight search grid (no dogs are mentioned), with helicopter reconnaissance at every step, no doubt. A search that states that they had "repeatedly revisit those sectors."
  • Cause of death is a fall, what kind of fall is not said, so why omit those details?
  • In a normal mountain accident, a fall is generally explicit as cause, here the words used were "Vega {the prosecutor} is emphatic in pointing out that the involvement of third parties has been ruled out." Interesting way of mentioning what might be considered a routine mountain fall accident against the possibility of foul play. Moreover, a year later the autopsy has not concluded, so one might be under the impression that the body suffered something beyond a fall, but of course there are falls and there are falls, and this case must result in a climbing/hiking that is fall beyond question.
In the first article a year ago, the same prosecutor had said:

"It is a very steep area, in which in order to go down the hills you have to go through very rocky sectors and, effectively, anyone can twist their ankle and fall. That is one of the working hypotheses, which must be confirmed by forensic examinations," said Vega.

If the evidence says something otherwise, the prosecutors might be extremely anxious and cautious with watchers at every turn. So, what can be seen are many omissions with a accident narrative that should be easily laid out.
 
David Paulides will be a speaker this year at the Smoky Mountain Bigfoot Conference held in Gatlinburg, TN on July 27.


I know a number of us down here in NC will be attending. Maybe we can have some more forum members there too, it would be cool to meet some of y'all! Also, Gatlinburg will be beautiful in July... :whistle:
 
I know a number of us down here in NC will be attending. Maybe we can have some more forum members there too, it would be cool to meet some of y'all! Also, Gatlinburg will be beautiful in July...
Can you please asking him privately what his idea is about Bigfoot & Co.? He stated in one of his recent YT videos, in the one he emphasized it is critically important to read these big Missing-411 related books - because of lots of data - , along with The Hunted and the weird animals topics as these are connected, so he stated he has now a very good idea what is going on. IIRC that video might have been linked here on this forum.

He is super-sensitive about not telling publicly his opinion. He always states this. But privately, maybe he is willing to tell, WTH he figured out what is going on regards Bigfoot & all this super-spooky Missing 411 stuff. So ask him please!

Thank You!
 
I know a number of us down here in NC will be attending. Maybe we can have some more forum members there too, it would be cool to meet some of y'all! Also, Gatlinburg will be beautiful in July... :whistle:

Sounds nice! Maybe take along a new copy of High Strangeness and offer it to him, if he doesn't have a copy of his own.
 
I'm making my design diploma about the strangest cases of disappearances in the USA and Canada and I need missing 411 books for references, but I can't find any site to order it (and on Amazon the price is ridiculous, idk why). Could anyone here help me please? Where can I buy it or maybe does anyone have an online version of those books?

Plus, if anyone has any other suggestions of references I can use, feel free to propose different sources.
 
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