Mother of all gushers - BP Oil Disaster in Gulf of Mexico

Well guys. This is just getting scarier by the minute. I feel this sensation of this inminent danger hanging over us. Like the seconds before a bomb is about to explode. I look around and see my loved ones and try to cherish this relatively calm moments. But I am just kind of waiting for what is about to explode to do it. I had always thought that we could be the last generation that had a comfortable life. But I do not know. I guess this situations will be of benefit for humankind in the long run. But I feel like I am just waiting for that big ontological storm to hit my life. Our lives.
 
Well guys. This is just getting scarier by the minute. I feel this sensation of this inminent danger hanging over us. Like the seconds before a bomb is about to explode. I look around and see my loved ones and try to cherish this relatively calm moments. But I am just kind of waiting for what is about to explode to do it. I had always thought that we could be the last generation that had a comfortable life. But I do not know. I guess this situations will be of benefit for humankind in the long run. But I feel like I am just waiting for that big ontological storm to hit my life. Our lives.

Mixtli.............It is becoming truly a global situation in progrees. As well to sharing your feeling's of what is about to happen, behind all this seemingly intentional activity.
 
Hi Dawn,

If you can imagine trying to stop an ocean from wetting the shore, that is what it will be like trying to stop the oil from contaminating the beaches. It may continue for years and years and you will exhaust your efforts and energy that could have, perhaps, gone to a more beneficial activity.

Maybe you should be asking yourself why you are even considering placing your family in harm's way instead of adapting with the changes. You made a decision to move there and it might have had all sorts of benefits and now, it seems, it is time for another journey to higher ground.

Here's a scenario I think you might want to consider.

There will be sorrow, confusion and fear galore in the days, weeks, months and years to come as unemployment hits levels that will make the great depression look tame in comparison.

If you don't leave of your own accord, you may soon find yourself moved against your will and placed in a relocation center, which may end up being a fenced-in refugee camp with hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions of others who couldn't get out in time.

The US economy is crumbling and is being propped up by illusion, which will probably soon end. Inflation will climb as the government tries to print some more money while costs continue to rapidly rise. States and the federal government will be trying to keep up with social security, welfare, disability and unemployment insurance payments, but will eventually have to start cutting back on essential services.

As infrastructure starts falling apart from neglect and continuous redirecting of funds, accidents and violence increase at an alarming rate and
emergency services will no longer be able to keep up with the demand. Too many fires, not enough trucks and firefighters. To many injuries and illness, not enough doctors and nurses.


Martial law and military controls will only work for so long, eventually having to secure only specific areas worthy of protection, the rest be damned.

The North American food supply will become scarce as the contamination travels through key production zones. Food will be rationed out to people standing in line all day like third world refugees.

This will naturally start in areas immediately affected by the spill, but the drain on resources from refugees pouring into more northern areas will eventually tear apart community after community.

And all that is without the added horror of comets smashing into the Earth.

So, the question really should be how long do you want to be free? The further north you go, the longer you can be free, OSIT.

Gonzo
 
Gonzo said:
Hi Dawn,

If you can imagine trying to stop an ocean from wetting the shore, that is what it will be like trying to stop the oil from contaminating the beaches. It may continue for years and years and you will exhaust your efforts and energy that could have, perhaps, gone to a more beneficial activity.

Dawn,

I agree with Gonzo here. I think your efforts to try to clean up the oil in your small locale, while noble, seem a bit quixotic. This spill is massive and will likely last for years, eventually going inland the next time a hurricane passes through. You might manage to keep some of your area "clean", but every storm will wash up more and more petrol and other black goo. I would consider my children's health above any other situation in this matter. Kids can and will get into anything, especially younger children.

I can appreciate that you are very stressed - this is not going to be an easy decision for you. I can't imagine the horrors of what you are seeing and will see in the coming months. It breaks my heart to speculate about what is going to happen to the southern states and all of the people this will affect.

I think if I were in your shoes, I would be looking to make some sort of a "plan B".
 
Dawn said:
I just don't get it. I felt like I was living in a pretty messed up world and all, but it's like I stepped quarter of an inch in the incorrect direction and ended up in this new world of absolute devestation.

It hits me hard because I moved my family out here to Alabama's coast back in January. I hold to the idea that it's not where you are but who you are, however also I have to question if it is stupid of me to put my kids at risk down here. Is it better to cut and run north?

I don't know, but I'd be asking the same question if I were you. Would you be able to, fairly easily, do that? I wish I had some magic advice for you - are you on the water?
 
Hi anart,

Actually I live within 15-20 miles from the beach, but we are on the 'water table' of Week's Bay, which so far, has not been affected due to the actions of the mayor of our town. He basicly went against what BP suggested (which was "here are some booms, put these out and wait for futher instruction".) He sat out the boons but also rented out barges and blocked off Mobile Bay (which is now affected). I don't know, it was inspiring.

I do have a plan B and I hope it doesn't come down to that.

Anyway thanks all for your support and suggestions. :)


anart said:
Dawn said:
I just don't get it. I felt like I was living in a pretty messed up world and all, but it's like I stepped quarter of an inch in the incorrect direction and ended up in this new world of absolute devestation.

It hits me hard because I moved my family out here to Alabama's coast back in January. I hold to the idea that it's not where you are but who you are, however also I have to question if it is stupid of me to put my kids at risk down here. Is it better to cut and run north?

I don't know, but I'd be asking the same question if I were you. Would you be able to, fairly easily, do that? I wish I had some magic advice for you - are you on the water?
 
Considering "bioenzymes" - they do work. They are a microbe which fit into the Biofilm category,
which is something I have been studying in my life, and reading up on in this forum, as it has
been brought up here in different threads (with different purposes).

This link, which I got from wikipedia under the biofilm topic (ref #15) is a book which talks
about Microbial Biodegradation. I think in BioEngineering, they call it "bioremediation."
http://www.horizonpress.com/biod

Here is a YouTube link discussing how "bioenzymes" have been used successfully in
real time oil spill situations: A very interesting synopsis...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VfypUzx1tI&feature=player_embedded
(title = "Gulf Oil Spill-Gutsy Solution Restores Environment in Just Six Weeks")

This is the link of the organization which provided the above video, I believe they
are actively trying to petition the govt and powers that be, to be able to use this
technology to lessen the damage. Yes, I signed the petition.
http://www.spillfighters.com

Biofilm, bioenzymes, microbes; are actually used in the majority of wastewater plant
to clean sewage into potable water.

I worked in the US Coast Guard Research and Development Center in the early 80's.
They have a "Fire and Safety Test Detachment" center near Mobile, Alabama. I know
for certain they were using BioRemediation to eliminate oil spills 25 years ago. The
video above shows how it was used in 1989.

That is what "scares" me. There is SO much more that "they" could be doing to stop
this and lessen the damage. But "they" aren't. Something is amiss. It seems many
here in this thread are realizing the implications.
 
Gonzo said:
There will be sorrow, confusion and fear galore in the days, weeks, months and years to come as unemployment hits levels that will make the great depression look tame in comparison.

If you don't leave of your own accord, you may soon find yourself moved against your will and placed in a relocation center, which may end up being a fenced-in refugee camp with hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions of others who couldn't get out in time.

The US economy is crumbling and is being propped up by illusion, which will probably soon end. Inflation will climb as the government tries to print some more money while costs continue to rapidly rise. States and the federal government will be trying to keep up with social security, welfare, disability and unemployment insurance payments, but will eventually have to start cutting back on essential services.

As infrastructure starts falling apart from neglect and continuous redirecting of funds, accidents and violence increase at an alarming rate and
emergency services will no longer be able to keep up with the demand. Too many fires, not enough trucks and firefighters. To many injuries and illness, not enough doctors and nurses.


Martial law and military controls will only work for so long, eventually having to secure only specific areas worthy of protection, the rest be damned.

The North American food supply will become scarce as the contamination travels through key production zones. Food will be rationed out to people standing in line all day like third world refugees.

This will naturally start in areas immediately affected by the spill, but the drain on resources from refugees pouring into more northern areas will eventually tear apart community after community.

And all that is without the added horror of comets smashing into the Earth.

Whoa Gonzo ... I thought I was the Doom and Gloom persona here! :lol:

Just to say, recognizing and acknowledging the reality of the situation does not necessarily indicate a complete dive into hopelessness. We've had a pretty good idea that terrible things were slated to happen, and now, that we are actually facing a scenario of nightmarish proportions, I think it's only natural to reconcile one thoughts about it and incorporate past data as one thinks it relates. Now that it's actually here, we have to actually deal with it. Utilizing the information gathered from following the forum, Sott, Laura's books, etc., would seem the best way to go. That to me is the opposite of hopelessness and a way to deal with the most unreal situation most of us have ever faced in our lives.

Jazper-Bringers of the Dawn said:
We will say to you very honestly that fear will always play a part in your evolutionary process, so get used to it. Do not feel that fear is bad. When you succumb to your fears and allow yourself to buy into them, then you must cycle through them and experience all you feel so that you can overcome them. Begin to say, "I will transmute this fear. I will understand that it is part of the plan. I will understand that it can serve me." Remember, your power and your ability to create reality through your will ends where your fear begins. And we will tell you--life is meeting fear. Begin to look at the events of your life and how you create them. Understand that you always create them to serve you. You are trained for this. You are coded for this.

I think the above is most apropos and helpful to keep in mind. One does have to wonder, though, about the recent installation of the seven-ton, 26-foot-tall concrete sculpture of an Egyptian god of the dead, Anubis, at the Denver airport. The timing, I think, is highly suspect.

I would also like to amend my previous statement regarding it being "established" that the Lizzies authored Revelations - "indicated" is the word I should have used. I did check out a video of the Hopi prophecies and one can see that many have already come to pass giving more credence to the ones yet to be fulfilled. However, I don't think Pahana is one of the good guys and I think all of humanity is going to be majorly belief challenged in the months/years ahead. That's why I'm glad I have become aware of so many things because of Laura's work.

I think the probabilities have started to collapse and will continue to do so even within the "future is open" reality. The best we can do is to remember our lessons and apply what we've learned - especially the detox, diet, and EE. Act for ourselves and for others as much as we can. I can acknowledge fear, but I don't have to let it conquer me.

Dawn, if you need assistance to relocate, I'd be happy to make a donation to help you out. I do think it's wonderful that you want to fight the spill, but I honestly believe it's gone way beyond the normal parameters of past spills. I would expect FEMA will be kicking into action sooner than later and you won't be able to follow through on your intervention anyway, osit. I'd really like to think I'm wrong about the scope of this disaster, but it really isn't looking that way if what's been posted is based in fact.
 
Doom and gloom indeed. Actually, I can be quite optimistic, but I was asking Dawn to envision the scenario in the hopes of painting a highly possible future to help with considering all perspectives - the worst case scenario is ugly, horribly ugly and the not so worst case scenario is only marginally better. It is so overwhelming that I think it is possible to slip backward into wishful thinking.

Gonzo
 
Apparently Obama is going to address the nation tomorrow night about the spill, so, we might find out then if there are any mass evacuation plans (or not).
 
I didn't know that. It will be interesting to see what he has to say. Although It is for sure that he will withhold a lot of information about the real state of the matter. But as the situation gets worse, I guess that little by little the PTB are going to get a little bit upset for their own comfort.
 
Obama will probably still play dumb. "I'm the same as you guys (the general public) and am on your side" nonsense. That act is really getting old. Unfortunately, if there is a mass evacuation, the outcome will probably be more tent cities. :(
 
Gonzo said:
Doom and gloom indeed. Actually, I can be quite optimistic, but I was asking Dawn to envision the scenario in the hopes of painting a highly possible future to help with considering all perspectives - the worst case scenario is ugly, horribly ugly and the not so worst case scenario is only marginally better. It is so overwhelming that I think it is possible to slip backward into wishful thinking.

Gonzo

A pessimist says "things couldn't possibly be worse". An optimist says "yes they can!" ;D
 
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