Mother of all gushers - BP Oil Disaster in Gulf of Mexico

A couple of days ago I read in a newspaper(De morgen) here in Belgium this:
"... Now with this disaster, people will be convinced that something must be done urgently to continue to avoid the" global warming ", because that also will be disastrous for our planet ....." Obviously this information comes from a U.S. journal.
Definitely behind this "disaster" BP is very dark, and they believe that everyone will believe the lies
 
Rahm Emanuel--White House Chief of Staff said:
You never let a serious crisis go to waste. And what I mean by that it's an opportunity to do things
you think you could not do before.

This is the operational guideline for Obama's handlers. Not calm down I feel your pain, but panic we need
more power and control to protect you. Maybe reeducation summer camps or a carbon tax administered by
Goldman Sachs to save the children...blah, blah, blah. It sure looks like the American dream is officially a nightmare.
More Prozac, please.
 
I've always felt that it's better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt, and I've found out that if I wait a little while someone else would ask the question that I had or make the statement that I was going to make. But I did say that I was going to try to participate more, so here goes.

First off I think that Gonzo has painted a pretty good scenario, at least that is probably a good worst case scenario.

Gonzo Reply #257 on: Yesterday at 12:25:16 PM said:
If you can imagine trying to stop an ocean from wetting the shore, that is what it will be like trying to stop the oil from contaminating the beaches. It may continue for years and years and you will exhaust your efforts and energy that could have, perhaps, gone to a more beneficial activity.

Maybe you should be asking yourself why you are even considering placing your family in harm's way instead of adapting with the changes. You made a decision to move there and it might have had all sorts of benefits and now, it seems, it is time for another journey to higher ground.

Here's a scenario I think you might want to consider.

There will be sorrow, confusion and fear galore in the days, weeks, months and years to come as unemployment hits levels that will make the great depression look tame in comparison.

If you don't leave of your own accord, you may soon find yourself moved against your will and placed in a relocation center, which may end up being a fenced-in refugee camp with hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions of others who couldn't get out in time.

The US economy is crumbling and is being propped up by illusion, which will probably soon end. Inflation will climb as the government tries to print some more money while costs continue to rapidly rise. States and the federal government will be trying to keep up with social security, welfare, disability and unemployment insurance payments, but will eventually have to start cutting back on essential services.

As infrastructure starts falling apart from neglect and continuous redirecting of funds, accidents and violence increase at an alarming rate and
emergency services will no longer be able to keep up with the demand. Too many fires, not enough trucks and firefighters. To many injuries and illness, not enough doctors and nurses.


Martial law and military controls will only work for so long, eventually having to secure only specific areas worthy of protection, the rest be damned.

The North American food supply will become scarce as the contamination travels through key production zones. Food will be rationed out to people standing in line all day like third world refugees.

This will naturally start in areas immediately affected by the spill, but the drain on resources from refugees pouring into more northern areas will eventually tear apart community after community.

And all that is without the added horror of comets smashing into the Earth.

So, the question really should be how long do you want to be free? The further north you go, the longer you can be free, OSIT.

I am really becoming concerned with the possibility of an evacuation (and I see that I'm not alone), if it does happen I really doubt that it will be for a couple of weeks or even a couple of months. I think it would be more like years.

So what are they going to do ? Buy our homes so that we can relocate? Yeah, right. Maybe we could sell to someone ? Yeah, right. Even if that happened could you buy another place ? Doubtful. What about our jobs ? Gone. Our bills and commitments . Huh.
So most likely everyone would wind up in a refugee camp. Pleasant thought. What can you take with you? The bare minimum. Pets? Not likely.
What happens to everything you had to leave? Looters, of course. What would you have to come back to? Probably not much,if you got to come back.
Yeah, I'm feeling better and better. If it comes to that I'll probably figure a way to hide my vehicles and when they come around we'll hide until they go away. It doesn't seem any worse that the alternative.
 
Another factor to consider is property values - if your home has a value now, it may not when the area is evacuated. On the other hand, the value may return if everything goes back to normal again after cleanup - if they ever intend to clean it up and bring people back, that is, and that's a big "if". And if someone on the inside knows the answer they can profit - buy up a bunch of houses while they have no value, wait for cleanup to be finished, sell the houses when value is restored for ridiculous profit. Either way, selling while the value is still there might make sense, to at least get rid of your debt for the house, and be able to take out a mortgage for another place up north - or, rent an apartment, which may be easier and less costly on a monthly basis. I'm not sure how beneficial it would be to own property in the coming years with all the possibilities, it seems almost like a wasted investment that maximizes your monthly payments and leaving a lot less money for other things that may be more important, and making you less able to just get up and move without any financial burden.

A fringe thought occurred to me - what if they want to evacuate the warmer areas and move everybody north for maximum ice age damage? If the ice age is setting in people might have the urge to move south, but not if it's toxic...
 
tom32071,
It must be horrible for any of you down there.

Personally, I think it would be best to take things one step at a time and not worry about the social/financial structures falling apart.

I'd be thinking about getting out of the area first, heading to north central US (or Canada if you are legally able to immigrate), where the land should be able to produce food for a while and where you could live on a small farm.

I'd consider selling everything at low prices to get as much cash as possible to buy the farm.

Then, I'd be making connections with others to better learn the local wilderness for hunting/fishing/gathering and networking), ultimately trying to get some degree of self sustainability.
It is so much harder with a family, unless you can convince them the adventure would be interesting and worth abandoning so many material items and social connections.

Depending on your skills, trying to get some type of employ with a state or federal government agency might be beneficial, as they will probably be operating the longest.

Just my thoughts. I truly do believe, from what I see, things will get worse. There will be no returning. That area could be contaminated for generations to come. And once they declare it unhabitable, mining and oil giants will move in to dig and drill wherever they can.

I feel really sad for the environment and all that rely upon it, be it human or animal or plant.

However, I would like to also think we can increase our FRV to a point that might mitigate the severity of the suffering and hopefully turn the tide on selfishness and lack of empathy for others.

Gonzo
 
Thanks Gonzo, SAO & everybody for the thoughts.
I used to live near Audobon Zoo in New Orleans.
Now I live in California. I wrote this yesterday:

I was catching up with some of my friends this past weekend, and the subject of the oil leak came up, and I was surprised by the direness of their prognostications. They are what I would call "Mainstream California Conservative" in the sense they do not buy Fox news, but are counter-culturally aware, a group of cross-cultural sports fans who like to bash conspiracy theory but hate Rush Limbaugh. They are plugged directly into mainstream media 'only,' and they were saying stuff along the lines of: "The end of the world;" "The cause of a world-wide depression and collapse and war and totalitarianism, etc."

On the one side I am happy to see that they begin to understand the danger of the potential tyranny before us all, but I am also concerned for them because their hearts really are heavy and they really are afraid. As if a lightning bolt hit them, I could not believe I heard them say how the corporate model they formerly swore by is out of control, and how our entire system is FUBAR and we are totally screwed by the selfish rich, they've been working on their plan for 50 years etc., creating a faceless corporate clan to hide behind. (Oh, in this case the choice of what word to fill in for the R in FUBAR for them was 'repair,' not 'recognition.')

For them to step out on that precipice a year ago would have been like the parting of the Pacific Ocean, but I guess that's how quickly things can change. "BP does not want to seal the leak," was a big theme, as has been echoed here. Anyway I say all this because I am beginning to think that this oil leak is changing mainstream perspectives radically, just as you have said. And BP's behavior is feeding that fire. (Perhaps we should get the name "TARP 2" floating around to described what's happening)

These particular friends of mine have always talked about the infallibility of the American system with its checks and balances and incisive liberal media, and its armchair experts. But now they have publicly absolved their faith in the American form of government. And what has replaced it? Fear of the greedy rich. :cry:

But of course this could be by design. I was once on a blocked commuter train in the dark for two hours with no announcements as to what was happening, and I saw how regular commuter folk turned into pandemonium so quickly, breaking glass, screaming hysterically, strangling, kicking, shoving. The veneer is thin to start with - and becoming thinner. "Once they have got you violent, they know how to handle you." (Lennon/POP). If my conversations this past weekend are any indication, the tea party crowd, heck the rabble in general, will be broaching new frontiers as the Summer rolls on.

How do we know that the comics at DC are aware of how angry people are becoming? Because we can see it in the insensitive actions of those such as Sarah Palin etc., who are selfishly trying to spin that anger onto the usual suspects for political gain. Effective leadership in a crisis ministers to the affected and their state of mind - regardless of political party affiliation! There is absolutely zero of this here which concerns me greatly, as Obama has not publicly referenced the Katrina disaster, and has said nothing along the lines of 'we have to learn from Katrina and do it better this time.' He has done very little to reduce fear and speak to the people. He is apparently stayed by Cameron, and perhaps higher forces, as they claim that he failure of BP would allegedly wipe out the pensions of many in both Britain and the US.

And the administration in DC certainly knows how volatile things have become, and will continue to become, as long as this dance of denial with BP persists. They are probably war-gaming the expected urban violence already and ... wait a second! The American Army has been re-inventing itself for Urban warfare for two decades, and now this little fuse in the Gulf - likely an event that will outstrip man landing on the moon in its historical importance - is rapidly becoming a breaking point.

I have found strong agreement across former boundaries between Republican, Democrat, Christian, Environmentalist, etc., on this topic. And I remember not too long ago that Ralph Reed was kicked out of the Clinton Administration's confidences because he started Christians on the road to loving and caring for the Earth. This was not in keeping with the political boundaries prescribed by the PTB - but now that very change has come with a vengeance, and is arguably beyond the control of the PTB.

Perhaps PTB discussions have encircled the idea we are wising up, and that the only way to maintain hegemony is big war, and stripping us of our money, and taking our freedoms away? My friends echoed this hullabaloo in many urgent ways: "They have raped us of a better standard of living!" "They have poisoned our food!" "They have laid waste our Earth!" "They have profited from making us fat, drunk, and stupid and dumping pharmies in our children's blood!" "They have turned our land from cooperative spirit to infighting at every level of possible gain." My formerly "conservative" friends are now of the mind that now that we-the-people have had enough, and that the PTB must now kill and enslave us so they can stay in power and prevent the light of the truth from shining on their mis-deeds. This is anger folks, and that ancient perpsective, coming from right-wingers here, is a major shift in the bedrock of the American political landscape if it is widespread. I really want to know how widespread such thinking is becoming.

Couple that with the fact that these same friends were expounding what they called the "real reason" behind the ruin of America. To them, Henry Kissinger's treaty in the 1960's created the vehicle of the petro-dollar, which created artificially high demand for the dollar, and is the real reason the US is priced out of the labor market. Hmm, formerly they spouted off about it being the Union's fault, and illegal immigration. Now they say that a bunch of oily cowboys have tricked us, and used the strong dollar to shove every corporation in America starting with Coca Cola, down the rest of the world's throats, and killed our Gulf of Mexico. Thank you petro-dollar. Did I hear them say that 'everyone' knows John Perkins' "Confessions of an Economic Hit Man"? I did.

What was once considered crazy conspiracy theory by this group of friends has now become their heart?!? If this is not a signal that there are major changes around us right now, I can't think of what would be. What are you listening to? Amazingly, "It's the end of the world as we know it," by R.E.M. started playing on the radio a minute ago.

- Potamus
 
That IS an interesting thought SAO, the ice age and the forced 'migration' of people going north to avoid toxins only to find themselves back in the stone age. Yikes.

I'm giving myself 30 more days here to see if I can do anything or get any project going and hope that I can save enough to get out of here before all hell breaks loose. Right now as of this morning Mobile Bay is seeing oil on their booms. Next - Weeks Bay will see it, then it may eventually get into the Mississippi Delta. :scared:

I started a little blog with only one entry for now: _http://gulfcoastoilspillalabama.blogspot.com/2010/06/oil-spill-clean-up-real-solution.html

JEEP, that is very kind of you, for now I have to hang on. You are very kind for offering.

SAO said:
Another factor to consider is property values - if your home has a value now, it may not when the area is evacuated. On the other hand, the value may return if everything goes back to normal again after cleanup - if they ever intend to clean it up and bring people back, that is, and that's a big "if". And if someone on the inside knows the answer they can profit - buy up a bunch of houses while they have no value, wait for cleanup to be finished, sell the houses when value is restored for ridiculous profit. Either way, selling while the value is still there might make sense, to at least get rid of your debt for the house, and be able to take out a mortgage for another place up north - or, rent an apartment, which may be easier and less costly on a monthly basis. I'm not sure how beneficial it would be to own property in the coming years with all the possibilities, it seems almost like a wasted investment that maximizes your monthly payments and leaving a lot less money for other things that may be more important, and making you less able to just get up and move without any financial burden.

A fringe thought occurred to me - what if they want to evacuate the warmer areas and move everybody north for maximum ice age damage? If the ice age is setting in people might have the urge to move south, but not if it's toxic...
 
SAO Reply #273 on: Today at 06:47:40 AM said:
A fringe thought occurred to me - what if they want to evacuate the warmer areas and move everybody north for maximum ice age damage? If the ice age is setting in people might have the urge to move south, but not if it's toxic...

A thought that I have is this............... There are supposed to be a lot of underground caverns around here where a "replacement population" of sorts is being prepared and also there are some military bases (do you think they will evacuate ? maybe some people but not all) and with an evacuation they would really have a free hand.
 
It is also strange to me, that the Census seemed so pushy this year. If you didn't answer the mail questionaire (which I didn't recieve) you got a personal visit by an employee asking ages birthdays and names of everyone in the household.

Maybe there is no connection...


tom32071 said:
SAO Reply #273 on: Today at 06:47:40 AM said:
A fringe thought occurred to me - what if they want to evacuate the warmer areas and move everybody north for maximum ice age damage? If the ice age is setting in people might have the urge to move south, but not if it's toxic...

A thought that I have is this............... There are supposed to be a lot of underground caverns around here where a "replacement population" of sorts is being prepared and also there are some military bases (do you think they will evacuate ? maybe some people but not all) and with an evacuation they would really have a free hand.
 
To Dawn and anyone else stuck in the oil mire in the South, and all others who are may be stuck in any sort of disaster in the coming months/years:

I just wanted to say that although the situation may be really stressful, confusing, and dire, just remember that we will always be there for you and your family. If worst comes to worst, you won't be abandoned and left to your own devices to just perish or be stuck into a relocation/concentration camp or something, not if we can help it, and chances are, we can! And by "we" I mean the members of this forum, FOTCM, etc. We're all in different situations - some with families, some without, some with more money, some with less, all having different skills, etc. But the point is we're all in this together, and that statement is not just about our shared human experience - it's literal too. If need be, we will come together as a group, or groups, as many as it takes, to survive, and help each other. This may begin happening sooner rather than later for some of us, and that is ok, just know that you're not alone and you never will be as long as you can be reached, and as long as the rest of us have breath in our bodies (and thanks to EE we just might!).

I think it's very important for everyone to keep this in mind in the coming months/years because things are heating up and panic might start to set in, panic about survival, and shock from witnessing major collapses in our global structures and radical changes, which can prompt feelings of hopelessness, depression, and make us do destructive things for ourselves and others. So everybody just make sure to keep the forum/network updated on your situation, if you're in trouble, etc. In other words, don't isolate yourself, stay connected with the group, and have faith in yourself, and in the network. Together we will make it through anything, we really will, so don't let your nerves overtake you, stay grounded and remember to keep breathing :)

Edit: I am currently in the process of moving to California, near LA, and I have some decent job opportunities there. I would be able to share a home(s) with anyone either now or in the future, so that's something to consider depending on your situation. And I honestly don't think there is any limit in numbers of people or size, I mean if everyone helps out in whatever way they are capable, then there will be no issues with necessities like food/money etc. Anyway, just throwing that on the table as a possibility, but if Cali is not an option, then I'm not against moving to wherever it would be most beneficial for all involved.
 
Hi Cicero, isn't that cool when that happens? a song coming on the radio that's so appropriate
to your mind set....

I think Gonzo is hitting the possible upcoming scenario pretty squarely on the head.

JEEP posted some great info on another thread concerning the political situation:
National Emergency mandates COG, FEMA, and Martial Law
http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=18026.0

IMHO the forum might need another subtopic heading like the one for 9-11.

1) The Oil spill itself, what is really happening "down there, in the water"
2) The environmental aspect, what is happening to the land and air
3) The economic aspect, how is this affecting the people and the PTB.
4.) The global aspect
5) The national aspect, concerning politics, FEMA etc
6) What can we do? How can we remain STO through all this?

This might be too much for a "newbie" to suggest; yet I see this spill and its ramifications as just beginning.
This is just the start of the disaster... There are so many things to consider, as this thread is showing.

Camp FEMA dot com has an interesting video available which covers Gonzo's scenarios, and more particularly
a lot of the info JEEP posted on the above-mentioned forum link.

Here is a link covering the top 10 BP Protests, I've been getting lots of good info through them.
http://www.mnn.com/green-tech/research-innovations/blogs/top-10-anti-bp-protests

(my $0.02)
 
Thank you for those words SAO. I wish there was another way to contact people (or be contacted) if we loose internet (or if others do). Maybe we can start some sort of contact list. I feel totally comfortable giving out my phone number to a few of you, and I hope others feel the same. Maybe that isn't the right course?

I admit personally I'm trying to put on a brave face. I also think there can be ways to at least delay the eventual distruction of the Gulf Coast. It might seem folly or self important of me to think I can actually do anything (like it was said earlier) 'like trying to keep the beach dry from the waves.' But I am going to give it a worthy shot.

I guess when my kids are older and they ask about the pictures I have of them on the beach, if they ask "well what did you do after the oil spill?" I would say "nothing, we just moved north."

Or I could say "well I threw in the towel after trying to get people to help me buy bioenzymes, and it only helped for a little while."

Neither sounds like a great conversation with my kids, but one seems a little better than the other. *shrug*


SAO said:
To Dawn and anyone else stuck in the oil mire in the South, and all others who are may be stuck in any sort of disaster in the coming months/years:

I just wanted to say that although the situation may be really stressful, confusing, and dire, just remember that we will always be there for you and your family. If worst comes to worst, you won't be abandoned and left to your own devices to just perish or be stuck into a relocation/concentration camp or something, not if we can help it, and chances are, we can! And by "we" I mean the members of this forum, FOTCM, etc. We're all in different situations - some with families, some without, some with more money, some with less, all having different skills, etc. But the point is we're all in this together, and that statement is not just about our shared human experience - it's literal too. If need be, we will come together as a group, or groups, as many as it takes, to survive, and help each other. This may begin happening sooner rather than later for some of us, and that is ok, just know that you're not alone and you never will be as long as you can be reached, and as long as the rest of us have breath in our bodies (and thanks to EE we just might!).

I think it's very important for everyone to keep this in mind in the coming months/years because things are heating up and panic might start to set in, panic about survival, and shock from witnessing major collapses in our global structures and radical changes, which can prompt feelings of hopelessness, depression, and make us do destructive things for ourselves and others. So everybody just make sure to keep the forum/network updated on your situation, if you're in trouble, etc. In other words, don't isolate yourself, stay connected with the group, and have faith in yourself, and in the network. Together we will make it through anything, we really will, so don't let your nerves overtake you, stay grounded and remember to keep breathing :)

Edit: I am currently in the process of moving to California, near LA, and I have some decent job opportunities there. I would be able to share a home(s) with anyone either now or in the future, so that's something to consider depending on your situation. And I honestly don't think there is any limit in numbers of people or size, I mean if everyone helps out in whatever way they are capable, then there will be no issues with necessities like food/money etc. Anyway, just throwing that on the table as a possibility, but if Cali is not an option, then I'm not against moving to wherever it would be most beneficial for all involved.
 
Dawn said:
Thank you for those words SAO. I wish there was another way to contact people (or be contacted) if we loose internet (or if others do). Maybe we can start some sort of contact list. I feel totally comfortable giving out my phone number to a few of you, and I hope others feel the same. Maybe that isn't the right course?

Dawn,

I could be wrong, but I think the best way to do this would be to fill out the application to join FOTCM (if you haven't already). That way the Fellowship will have your contact information on file in case something does happen and it will only be given out on a need-to-know basis.

OSIT.
 
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SAO
To Dawn and anyone else stuck in the oil mire in the South, and all others who are may be stuck in any sort of disaster in the coming months/years:

I just wanted to say that although the situation may be really stressful, confusing, and dire, just remember that we will always be there for you and your family. If worst comes to worst, you won't be abandoned and left to your own devices to just perish or be stuck into a relocation/concentration camp or something, not if we can help it, and chances are, we can! And by "we" I mean the members of this forum, FOTCM, etc. We're all in different situations - some with families, some without, some with more money, some with less, all having different skills, etc. But the point is we're all in this together, and that statement is not just about our shared human experience - it's literal too. If need be, we will come together as a group, or groups, as many as it takes, to survive, and help each other. This may begin happening sooner rather than later for some of us, and that is ok, just know that you're not alone and you never will be as long as you can be reached, and as long as the rest of us have breath in our bodies (and thanks to EE we just might!)

First let me say excuse ME, as have i have been just monitoring the discussion and have not added much to it. But in the past i have also come to realise, like the guy that comes to a crowded swimming pool. And then proceeds to do a high dive canon ball off the diving board into the center of the pool filled with people. Only too clear the area. And then left wondering if should have eased in the pool instead.

I found Sao's comment food for thought. And the many other thoughts and worry (and understandably so) of where and what is the best approach to all this. I started surffering the Transcripts and found this recent offering and a possible reminder to the current chaos and thinking being discussed, and that this recent transcript may be of some benefit and reminder to some of the ideas and worries that are being passed around.

Session; Session 28 November 2009


Q: (L) It's gonna be ugly. But, we are embarked upon a new world. Okay, somebody else's turn to ask questions.

(Ark) I have a question. I need to explain. Two weeks ago, {there was an incident involving] a cosmic probe sent by ESA in Paris - it was sent in 2004 - and it is supposed to reach a comet that is coming to earth. It's supposed to reach this comet in 2014 and accompany this comet to the earth. Now this probe in 2005 and 2007 came in a close approach to earth. First it goes like that {gestures making sweeping motion} and getting speed, and then it will go to reach the comet. Now in 2005 and 2007 when the probe was doing this swing by the earth, they experienced what they called "swingby anomalies". It was observed by some radar station in Arizona. Then it gets observed by another station. It's getting tracked in Australia. And in the meantime something happens to this probe: it gets a kick. This trajectory changes, and no one knows why and no one understands. And it happens twice. The third time and the last it was two weeks ago on the 13th of November that this probe was last time doing the swing-by. So they were now ready to catch the anomaly, to track it continuously. This time, no anomaly happened! It was an anomalous anomaly! (laughter) Similar things happened to American probes Galileo and another one that even I was working on when I was in the US, NEAR, near-earth whatever detecting asteroids - anomalies - gravitational anomalies. And of course there are like twenty different theories how to explain: "Do we need a new theory of gravity? Was Einstein wrong? Is it dark matter? Is it some effect related to macroscopic quantum phenomenon?" Because it was a kick: change of velocity suddenly. So, my question is, can we have a hint what causes similar anomalies that no one understands?

A: Partly gravitational and partly observational in the sense that observation can enhance or cancel gravity. The power of mind and anticipation, take a lesson!

Q: (L) Anticipate not! (laughter) So, if you anticipate, you cancel something out. That's bizarre!

(Allen) So by observing something, you enhance it. But by anticipating, you cancel it?

(L) Observing can be anticipatory or not.

(Ark) For instance, some remote viewers want to see what's going to happen... (laughter)

(L) And they interfered with the system!

(Joe) It happened once when they weren't expecting it.

(Ark) Once it did NOT happen when they expected it.

(Joe) But the first time...

(Ark) Two times it happened.

(L) And when they were ready for it, it didn't happen.

(Ark) And then they were ready for it, they wanted to see it better. (laughter) Now we’re gonna, we WILL find the devil!

(P*****) So, anticipating a future event reduces the likelihood of the happening of this event? How does it happen? How does it work?

(L) I explained all that in the {training} video. Weren't you listening? (laughter)

(A******) He fell asleep.

(L) I explained that you can't micromanage it. You can only see the outcome.

(Ark) There is famous quantum Zeno effect: pot never boils when you watch it. (laughter)

(Allen) This is also why in baseball they say, "Keep your eye on the ball"...

(A***) Or the van never leaves until you roll a cigarette! That's the Scottie Law! (laughter)

A: These factors should be kept in mind by all the new PC members. You are all on the threshold of a new life. Anticipate not what the universe can and will do, just do the work asked of you and the wave will come to meet you and lift you up.

Q: (L to Ark) So it's kind of like what you said once: The wave is waiting for us in time?

(Ark) But if like a billion people start to anticipate the wave coming, it may stop!

(L) Or anticipate how it will come, or what it will do.

(A***) And lots of people won't be able to control themselves from doing that.

(L) So it's best to pay attention to reality and deal with reality that is here and now in a most effective and efficient way and let the universe take care of itself. As long as you are doing your part...

A: Yes

Q: (Ark) But I think there are different kinds of anticipation. Imagine someone is anticipating he will have an accident, and gets so scared that it creates an accident. But on the other hand there is a different anticipation. I anticipate that the accident MAY happen, so I am very careful, I watch everything, I am not agitated, you see? I anticipate that it may happen, and that's okay.

(C******) You're not afraid.

(L) There's kind of like a fine distinction between anticipation and being prepared.

(A***) Yeah, because it's like the difference between fear and worry.

(Joe) Maybe anticipation can be limited to anticipation of a new life or something good, but as to how or what, you can't know.

(L) You shouldn't try to limit it or shape it in your mind.

(Joe) Like they said, if everybody just dedicated themselves to doing the work that's asked of them, and something...

A: There is much much work to be done!

Q: (C******) There's no time to worry!

(I**) I think a rule of anticipation is one open or not to different possibilities? Because focusing only on one possibility, that is anticipation which can change something...

(L) Yeah, you're narrowing it.

(I**) ... against your anticipation.

(Joe) We should anticipate that an infinite number of things can happen.

(L) Yeah.

(Joe) Have a go at that.

(Allen) Something will happen! (laughter)

(I**) What about these New Agey people who are so excited about the wave without any knowledge about it. And there is kind of anticipation...

A: If they want to surf the wave they must work to get ready, they must do the EIRIU EOLAS program to get in synch. A lot of little personal wavelets or ripples won't change anything. That is what 4D STS knows and why they seek to engender divisiveness. It is also not worth the risk of being smashed by hidden negative emotions, so best to get on with getting them cleared. Better safe than sorry!!!!
 
Dawn said:
guess when my kids are older and they ask about the pictures I have of them on the beach, if they ask "well what did you do after the oil spill?" I would say "nothing, we just moved north."

Or I could say "well I threw in the towel after trying to get people to help me buy bioenzymes, and it only helped for a little while."

Neither sounds like a great conversation with my kids, but one seems a little better than the other. *shrug*

Or you could tell them that you were helping people understand about the ultimate reality behind the spill, psychopathy and hyperdimensional reality, because without understanding the real cause of these events, we’ll never put an end to them.
 
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