Mother of all gushers - BP Oil Disaster in Gulf of Mexico

[vectis]

Thanks c.a., that was helpful....

...makes me wonder what the C's mean in the sentence
"A: These factors should be kept in mind by all the new PC members."

?what is a PC member?

... as for the "anticipation" - that makes me feel better also.
I can't fix the Gulf, but I've been working in the garden,
making a peace garden, holy ground, somewhere to
meditate and practice EE...

...as I do this, I have been discussing with my lady, how we
can grow food, and store it; Be ready when there is nothing.
It's a home improvement project! We are not preparing for
survival (but at the same time we are, with a smile)

Hope for the best,
expect the worst,
and accept what happens....

 

[Approaching Infinity]

Thanks c.a., that was helpful....

...makes me wonder what the C's mean in the sentence
"A: These factors should be kept in mind by all the new PC members."

?what is a PC member?

That would be PaleoChristianity. ;)

 

[vectis]

Thanks Approaching Infinity! nice!
- Today I downloaded "The Principles..." and seen it there.
Haven't come across it yet in the Wave (unless i missed it).
- That is my next reading assignment, so thanks for the
helpful "push" toward FOTCM :)

 

[henry]

Thanks Approaching Infinity! nice!
- Today I downloaded "The Principles..." and seen it there.
Haven't come across it yet in the Wave (unless i missed it).
- That is my next reading assignment, so thanks for the
helpful "push" toward FOTCM

You won’t run across any references to PaleoChristianity or the FOTCM in The Wave. It is much newer.

 

[vectis]

Thanks Galahad - I will follow up this question on my introduction thread
(if you don't mind) so we can bring this thread back to topic.

 

[Bernhard]

I'm not sure if this was posted her before, but I didn't see it. Interesting video clip talking about it being Volcanic activity instead of all crude oil that is gushed out:

- BP Gulf Oil spill - aka volcano - part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EG_pupjoavU

- BP Gulf Oil spill - aka volcano - part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-L5t7ho_bs

I don't much about Volcanoes, so I can't say if there may be some truth to it or not.

 

[RyanX]

I'm not sure if this was posted her before, but I didn't see it. Interesting video clip talking about it being Volcanic activity instead of all crude oil that is gushed out:

- BP Gulf Oil spill - aka volcano - part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EG_pupjoavU

- BP Gulf Oil spill - aka volcano - part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-L5t7ho_bs

I don't much about Volcanoes, so I can't say if there may be some truth to it or not.

Thanks for these videos Spiral Out!

I think this guy might be onto something and it is very close to what I have suspected for some time now. He is basically showing photage of the spill cams and saying that this is not just crude oil coming up. There are red, yellow and white substances coming out which indicate substances such as iron and sulfur. These substances indicate volcanic activity.

He even mentions that this may have been deliberate, that BP possibly knew that they were drilling straight into a volcanic area. That this area could "blow", causing a tsunami and releasing all the petroleum, methane and other toxic volcanic substances in one blow at some point. This explains why there appear to be multiple "leaks" or vents now near the site of the Deepwater Horizon. With the recent rumblings at Yellowstone and southern California, there seems to be a lot of action going on right now below the continent.

He also mentions the fact that the disaster aboard the Deepwater Horizon coincides with Hitler's 111th birthday as well as "Earth Day". It does seem highly symbolic in a sense and judging from the financial activity going on before the disaster, there is a good possibility this was deliberate.

On the other hand, I suspect that BP is being set up to take the fall here. The the world focused on the negligence of BP and not the impending earth changes about to occur, few are going to realize what is going on before it is too late. That's not to say BP executives and traders didn't take full advantage of this situation to continue their psychopathic games - it's just not the whole story here. There are too many unaccounted for facts that point to this going beyond just a simple blown well head on the ocean floor. The world is literally opening up and I have no doubt some of this will occur in an explosive way.

 

[vectis]

Spiral Out, RyanX....

Bingo! this is what I've been seeing all along.

Somewhere I read (can't find source now) that BP CEO Hayward sold all of his BP stock a month prior.

I believe that's why TPTB chose "DeepWater Horizon" for its extreme depth, and location.
call it "DeepS**t on the Horizon".....

Very possible the oil will not stop. "They" can't stop it.
Then the volcanic potential is too real to ignore.

The weather "forecasters" are calling for an "active" hurricane season. Read "haarpicane"
never mind how this may just alter the weather in the long run.

Perfect scenario for national and world Catastrophe.

Hold on tight! It may be one Hell of a summer... and a Freezing winter...

 

[ScioAgapeOmnis]

At 3:28 of the first video he mentions that crude is black, but apparently this is not necessarily so:

From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petroleum

Crude oil varies greatly in appearance depending on its composition. It is usually black or dark brown (although it may be yellowish or even greenish)

From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluorescence

Crude oil (petroleum) fluoresces in a range of colors, from dull brown for heavy oils and tars through to bright yellowish and bluish white for very light oils and condensates. This phenomenon is used in oil exploration drilling to identify very small amounts of oil in drill cuttings and core samples.

From: _http://www.slate.com/id/2253636

Why does the oil slick appear to be orange instead of black? Because the emulsion of oil in water consists of particles of many sizes, separated by water molecules. The way these particles scatter light (and produce color) depends on their size, and their size can change over time as they clump together or separate.

Oil isn't always black, even when it hasn't been mixed with water. Crude oil—that's the unrefined stuff that comes out of the well—can be transparent, yellow-green, reddish, amber, brown, or black, depending on its composition. So-called "light crude," in which the hydrocarbons are mostly free of contaminants, tends toward the lighter end of the scale (naturally). Heavy crude often takes a dark brown or black color on account of the metals mixed in.

So the question is, what kind of oil is supposed to be leaking out - light crude or heavy crude? If they say heavy then I think it should be black. But the stuff looks definitely light brown even on wildlife, so it's not just some reflection of the sun in the ocean, it's clearly brown whatever it is, and very well could be sulfur mixed with oil or something.

 

[Nawd]

Whoa, interesting videos, thanks for posting them!

I'm not sure if this was posted her before, but I didn't see it. Interesting video clip talking about it being Volcanic activity instead of all crude oil that is gushed out:

- BP Gulf Oil spill - aka volcano - part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EG_pupjoavU

- BP Gulf Oil spill - aka volcano - part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-L5t7ho_bs

I don't much about Volcanoes, so I can't say if there may be some truth to it or not.

Another possible outcome from all of this (rather it be a volcano or a deep well of oil):
Gulf's Evolution Makes the Shakes
_http://www.aapg.org/explorer/2002/11nov/rift_zone.cfm

The New Madrid seismic zone in Missouri has long intrigued scientists because, according to conventional geologic theory, large earthquakes clustered in a tectonically quiet region are difficult to understand.

But at least one AAPG member is challenging the crowd.

New Orleans independent geologist Jack M. Reed believes the origin of the earthquakes lies beneath the Gulf of Mexico.

That's not all.

Reed, a retired Texaco geologist-geophysicist who has been studying the region's geology for over 40 years, says the accepted theory of a quiet geologic evolution of the Gulf of Mexico Basin is fundamentally flawed and needs to be revised.

According to him, the Gulf was and is tectonically active -- and it is the likely origin for not only the New Madrid seismic activity, but also for the Middleton Place-Summerville seismic zone near Charleston, S.C.

"For all the years I have worked the Gulf of Mexico Basin I have been forced to accept the 'passive' Gulf formation theory, which holds that the only movement in the basin is updip sedimentary loading that moved the salt southward," Reed said. "But there is little evidence to support this theory, and it doesn't fit what is observed geologically or geophysically.

"As Hugh Wilson said (1993), 'It would be geologically unusual for such a large basin as the Gulf of Mexico to remain almost tectonically undisturbed for 170 million years while major orogenic disturbances repeatedly struck bordering areas.'"

Reed, over the years, has gathered evidence that supports plate motion in the Gulf basin. Thick salt and sedimentary sequences in the basin mask this tectonic motion, but there is enough basin and peripheral evidence to show plate readjustment is occurring -- evidence, he says, in the form of volcanics, earthquakes and rift zones that are accompanied by magnetic, refraction, seismic and gravity data.

(entire large article at link above)

 

[GRiM]

Lindsey Williams the man who wrote the book "Energy non-crisis"


I have not done any research into his claims but I though they were very provoking, maybe someone want to look into this.

COAST TO COAST AM - 1 OF 8 - GULF OIL CRISIS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buB6e1EP-8s&feature=PlayList&p=753A4A15F8613CB2&playnext_from=PL&index=0

BP drilled about 30,000 feet into a strata that has never been drilled into before, already starting 5,000 feet down. So we’re talking as far as 7 miles into the earth. The Russians have drilled this deep, but they had the sense to do it on land.

“They drilled between 25 and 30 thousand feet deep in 5 thousand foot water. … They hit something so catastrophic and unexpected that they could not contain it.”

“They hit a wellhead pressure of somewhere between 20, 000 and 70,000 pounds per square inch (psi).” Compare this to Prudhoe Bay oil pressure at 1,500 psi.

Having been told that the fail-safe valve was warped, the foreman proceeded anyway.

The flow is much larger than BP is letting on. It’s actually gushing at about 4 million gallons of oil per day!

The pipe is fractured in many places. Some plumes are coming up as far as 20 miles away.

“The oil is not the greatest danger. … What comes up with the oil is what is deadly [to humans]” — toxic gasses that could be blown across the eastern United States during the next hurricane.

[//He cites a EPA-report that was released a week ago]

It may take a nuke to stop it. But this could take about 2 more months to angle drill the hole, and its super risky. The nuke could damage the strata further! “You are not going to see this well capped anytime soon.”

BP drilled about 30,000 feet into a strata that has never been drilled into before, already starting 5,000 feet down. So we’re talking as far as 7 miles into the earth.

The Russians have drilled this deep, but they had the sense to do it on land.

Having been told that the fail-safe valve was warped, the foreman proceeded anyway.

The flow is much larger than BP is letting on. It’s actually gushing at about 4 million gallons of oil per day!

The pipe is fractured in many places. Some plumes are coming up as far as 20 miles away.

 

[judyanderson12]

I always have hesitation about posting because I lack a bit of expertise in knowing how to include links (like I said before, I have only recently begun to use a computer again). However, there were two things this morning in my looking through my usual websites that I ran across. One was listening again on the Veritas radio show to an update from the guy named Fox that discussed the current conditions in the Gulf. He had begun his trip in New Orleans and then on Sunday went to Alabama where the oil is now coming onto the beaches. They (BP?) have been spraying the Corexit in the middle of the night above the beaches in Alabama, further attempting to conceal the extent of the damage and also making toxic everything under their spraying. They discussed the topic of US needing to do something and were brainstorming a bit when it was suggested that the masses need to appear at the doorsteps of the EPA or wherever it would have the most likelihood of success to demand that this poison use be stopped.

The other interesting thing I did was to watch a couple of videos by Adrian Salbuchi forecasting 2010. It was the video of the day on Conscious Media Network, but I googled his name and both short videos are on youtube (I googled "Salbuchi - Status Report - 15 June 2010" and came up with links. In the second video he showed an aerial view of the helicopter platform on the rig and it appeared to have a very large hole in it, seconds before the explosion and fire. His theory is that this was done from "above," like the Twin Towers. That makes a lot of sense to me, because in following the theme of "who benefits?" it doesn't appear to me to be BP. I tend to think they are the diversion -- leading us to be so angry at them and our government so that we fail to CONNECT THE DOTS. Who benefits???????

Jazper

 

[thevenusian]

One thing I have noticed in the past few days is that in the absence of reliable, truthful information coming from any trusted authority, there seem to be increasingly hysterical reports all around the internet about what is going on. I sure can't tell with any certainty what is/might be true in some of the things I've seen, as geology and petroleum science is not my field of knowledge.

One place that does seem to have quite a few knowledgeable people with experience in the oil-drilling field is _http://www.theoildrum.com/. There are volumes of discussion, debate and observation there from people who work, or have worked in the industry, and detailed technical explanations about what is going on. It becomes clear after a little reading that there is quite a bit of science involved which most people are simply unaware of. No one there is suggesting that this is anything other than an oil well. The white stuff seen on the underwater cameras is methane hydrate which is frozen, and would be expected to be coming from a well like this, at least according to what I've read there. I don't agree with the basic peak-oil premise of the site, but I've learned quite a bit about oil drilling, and enough to understand that none of us really have all the data about what is happening.

It does seem clear that this situation is out of control and much worse than what the public is being told. And it wouldn't be a stretch to imagine the result will be increasingly chaotic on many levels in the coming weeks. As for whether it was intentional, I think that depends on how high up the chain one wants to go. Even if no humans were consciously intending this, it seems like it would fit into the 4-D STS plan quite well.

 

[cholas]

The weather "forecasters" are calling for an "active" hurricane season. Read "haarpicane"
never mind how this may just alter the weather in the long run.

Hi Vectis. Haarp has been discussed at length here on the forum and the notion that it is used to control weather is most likely a distraction. Try doing a search on it. FWIW. ;)

It is predicted to be an active hurricane season in those parts and the potential outcome would indeed be devastating.

 

[treesparrow]

BP relief ship struck by lightning, bum luck

http://www.grist.org/article/2010-06-15-bp-relief-ship-struck-by-lightning-bum-luck/