Mother of all gushers - BP Oil Disaster in Gulf of Mexico

Thanks go2, (and to everyone sharing):
I hope it's not too obnoxious to post this again. This could be a helpful way of keeping everything
straight for everyone here; separating the real from the unreal, and sub-dividing it into particular
sub-topics to help everyone see what is really happening, and what we may do to help or prepare...

Vectis said:
IMHO the forum might need another subtopic heading like the one for 9-11.

1) The Oil spill itself, what is really happening "down there, in the water"
2) The environmental aspect, what is happening to the land and air
3) The economic aspect, how is this affecting the people and the PTB.
4.) The global aspect
5) The national aspect, concerning politics, FEMA etc
6) What can we do? How can we remain STO through all this?

This might be too much for a "newbie" to suggest; yet I see this spill and its ramifications as just beginning.
This is just the start of the disaster... There are so many things to consider, as this thread is showing.

Thanks for letting me share.
 
After seeing this article:

Obama picks 'Son of the Gulf' Ray Mabus to lead restoration
_http://news.yahoo.com/s/mcclatchy/20100616/sc_mcclatchy/3538567

WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama's selection of Navy Secretary Ray Mabus, a former Mississippi governor, as his go-to person in charge of developing a long-term Gulf Coast restoration plan won widespread praise Wednesday.
Bold emphasis mine

I remembered Nostradamus using the name Mabus in a quatrain.
_http://www.nostradamus.org/mabus.php

According to some, the death of one known as "Mabus" will herald some cataclysmic event. The actual mention of Mabus is restricted to C2, Q62 where we see Mabus described:

'Mabus' then will soon die, there will come
Of people and beasts a horrible rout:
Then suddenly one will see vengeance,
Hundred, hand, thirst, hunger when the comet will run.

'Mabus' has been linked to many different people using it as a code word, but seeing it as the guy's actual last name was a little startling. May be nothing, but I thought it was at least worth noting and sharing.

JH
 
I am with vectis. The gulf situation has proven to be of such importance that the info about it could be put into subtopics if things (as predicted) get exponentially wrong in the weeks to come.
 
Oil Spill Full of Methane, Adding New Concerns:

_http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37778190

Gessshh this is getting worse and worse.
 
Just thought I'd throw out the idea that the Israelis were involved in the explosion on the gulf rig. Nothing like a little eco-diaster as cover for Israeli brutality.
 
Dawn said:
Oil Spill Full of Methane, Adding New Concerns:

_http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37778190

Gessshh this is getting worse and worse.

This is serious. just go to sott.net and pull up all the references to outgassing that we have in the SOTT database.

There is the lake disaster in Africa that comes to mind and I know I wrote about it in the comet series (I think). An entire village was wiped out in seconds by a rolling cloud of methane that came up out of the bottom of a big lake. The Gulf of Mexico is a LOT bigger and prolly a LOT more methane down there. I think it is all evidence of the slowing of the earth's rotation leading to reduction of the magnetic field and the "opening up" of stuff in the interior of the earth in it's effort to "cool down" internally. If this is the case (and I think we have found the clues here and there), it puts a whole different face on what is happening and makes that darn thing 100 times more dangerous than anybody suspects.
 
Like a typical pathological or ponerized personality, the BP Chief relaxes at a yacht race. Luckily for him and his elitist chums, the water where the yachts race doesn't have an oil spill spoiling their fun.

Grrrrrr. These creeps are so arrogant!!!

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2010/06/19/national/a005731D23.DTL

from article said:
...Spokeswoman Sheila Williams said Hayward took a break from overseeing BP efforts to stem the undersea gusher in Gulf of Mexico to watch his boat "Bob" participate in the J.P. Morgan Asset Management Round the Island Race...

...In a statement, BP described Hayward's day off as "a rare moment of private time" and said that "no matter where he is, he is always in touch with what is happening within BP" and can direct recovery operations if required...

Well, that explains it - NOT! :mad:
 
I am betting the air quailty is a lot better in the UK. But you know, if he gets a cell phone call, text or email, that keeps him 'in touch.'
:mad:


NormaRegula said:
Like a typical pathological or ponerized personality, the BP Chief relaxes at a yacht race. Luckily for him and his elitist chums, the water where the yachts race doesn't have an oil spill spoiling their fun.

Grrrrrr. These creeps are so arrogant!!!

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2010/06/19/national/a005731D23.DTL

from article said:
...Spokeswoman Sheila Williams said Hayward took a break from overseeing BP efforts to stem the undersea gusher in Gulf of Mexico to watch his boat "Bob" participate in the J.P. Morgan Asset Management Round the Island Race...

...In a statement, BP described Hayward's day off as "a rare moment of private time" and said that "no matter where he is, he is always in touch with what is happening within BP" and can direct recovery operations if required...

Well, that explains it - NOT! :mad:
 
Thanks Laura, I'll do some research in the SOTT data bases.

I'm very sensitive to toxic air, and have been feeling 'under the weather' for awhile now. I'm rarely ever sick. My diet isn't 'great,' but I'm working on it little by little as I can afford and for awhile I was feeling terrific, until I'd say, two weeks ago or so.

Headaches: Two in two weeks (always following a rain)
Coughing: Yes (mostly in the early mornings)

Another odd symptom, is sometimes I have to eat rather slow, or I feel like I won't be able to food down.
Sometimes I feel like I can't 'get enough air.' It gets extremly humid here, so we try to stay indoors as much as possible, where I always feel better nearly immediatly.

So far my kids have't complaned about symptoms of any kind. But I feel a near panic to get them out of this situation!!

It would take months to save up enough to get out of this area, I don't have anything to sell aside from this computer and a camera, both which is worth little more than maybe $100. Like many people I live paycheck to paycheck (which are small because it's a serving job, and tips have been way down!)

The place was pretty much furnished when we moved in (I rent). Aside from a tea maker, some pots and pans and clothing (all of which we use). Arrrgggg! I'm putting a halt on my ideas about 'helping save the Gulf,' now I am just focused on 'getting out of here!' The good thing about having so little, is also having so little to move. In Missouri I have a storage shed I was waiting to save the money to go and get 'the rest of our stuff,' but haven't made the trip back yet.

Sorry, I didn't mean to hijack this thread yet again.


Laura said:
Dawn said:
Oil Spill Full of Methane, Adding New Concerns:

_http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37778190

Gessshh this is getting worse and worse.

This is serious. just go to sott.net and pull up all the references to outgassing that we have in the SOTT database.

There is the lake disaster in Africa that comes to mind and I know I wrote about it in the comet series (I think). An entire village was wiped out in seconds by a rolling cloud of methane that came up out of the bottom of a big lake. The Gulf of Mexico is a LOT bigger and prolly a LOT more methane down there. I think it is all evidence of the slowing of the earth's rotation leading to reduction of the magnetic field and the "opening up" of stuff in the interior of the earth in it's effort to "cool down" internally. If this is the case (and I think we have found the clues here and there), it puts a whole different face on what is happening and makes that darn thing 100 times more dangerous than anybody suspects.
 
Perceval said:
Just thought I'd throw out the idea that the Israelis were involved in the explosion on the gulf rig. Nothing like a little eco-diaster as cover for Israeli brutality.

I've been considering the possibility/likelyhood of this since you brought it up in the other oil spill thread, Perceval. Definitely fits the patterns of their hidden hand in many things tragic. One heck of a distraction too. :(

Something else I was pondering......if it does get as bad as has been predicted, would it not be a prime time for an introduction to the 'visitors' who might, through technology, 'save us'? Heroes they would be eh?

Also, with the mention of Cuba becoming affected, does this disaster play a role there as well? It wasn't that long ago that there was talk of offshore underwater cities becoming visible. Not much longer? (or who's looking)

Dawn, I hope you and your family, Seraphina and others have your wildcards/plan B's lined up. And fwiw, I don't think that you should be afraid to ask for help here when it is truly needed.

Best to you. :)
 
http://johndotyjr.blogspot.com/2010/06/oil-disaster-will-be-end-of-life-as-we.html

Oil Disaster Will Be End of Life As We Know It

This is it. It's over. Get ready for the most insane year of your life. 5 years. 10 years. One day you will look back at your life right now and think about how easy it was, how innocent. We are on the cusp of total collapse, right at the precipice.

If you're like most people you probably have already decided that I am exaggerating without knowing why I am saying this. Well let me make it clear that I also wish I was exaggerating. I don't sell survival equipment or gold. My job is not recession proof. I have a family. I didn't wake up today and randomly decide to declare that this is the end of life as we know it. But I do research. I make calls and tune into radio, scouring the internet for news clips and analysis. I make a concerted effort to only quote trustworthy sources. The information that has emerged over the past few days confirms fears that this is actually an "Armageddon" event. I am being completely serious.

Check it: The oil, spewing out at 20,000 to 70,000 psi, and the sediment within it has eroded the very walls of the well itself in several areas. This means that this is now an uncontainable gusher that is literally spewing oil up from dozens of sites across the gulf floor. The massive oil pocket tapped under immense pressure is now spewing out into the seabed. Capping the well does nothing. The oil pocket is tapped, the pipe is eroded and the oil is now spewing up to the ocean floor with intense pressure. Plumes are being generated everywhere. They cannot stop this. Human technology cannot contain a liquid at that pressure, especially at that depth under the ocean. We simply do not have the technology or know-how to fix this. We don't. The relief wells are essentially useless now because the original well cannot be plugged so oil will always flow out of it regardless of how many other wells they dig. They needed to get into the pipe, fill the old pipe with mud and cement and then divert the oil into the new well. But because the tapped oil pocket is sand blasting itself routes to the surface that grow each day in diameter due to the eroding walls and passageways, there is no "well" to fill. That is because whats left of the well is already dissolving. And each day that passes until they drill their so-called "relief wells" will only see the oil finding new routes through the escapes it has carved through erosion of the pipes and rock. Thad Allen, the head of the US Coast Guard, has said that the oil isn't all flowing up the pipe anymore but is now "in communication" with the seabed and the surrounding soft rock formation. It is now blasting its own wells.

Ya, that's bad, but that isn't even the scary part. Hydrogen Sulfide, Benzene, Methylene Chloride, and other toxic gases are also spewing out along with the oil. In concentrations hundreds and thousands of times greater than what is considered safe for humans. Lethal levels. When the hurricanes come they will absorb this toxic seawater and drop it as rain. Literally toxic rain. Let me guess, toxic rain doesn't scare you. The biggest threat is already actualized with the chemicals entering the atmosphere and being carried around by the wind.

“The media coverage of the BP oil disaster to date has focused largely on the threats to wildlife, but the latest evaluation of air monitoring data shows a serious threat to human health from airborne chemicals emitted by the ongoing deepwater gusher,” the Institute for Southern Studies blog reported on May 10.

Any one of these chemicals in these concentrations would be lethal. Mixed together it's truly unthinkable.

The fragile US economy, in the midst of a feeble attempt at a jobless recovery, overstretched by war and out of control spending is not equipped to handle a disaster of this magnitude. No country in the world could. Remember how well they handled the Katrina thing? This makes Katrina look like a grade school fire drill. Well I wonder how well they will do this time as they prepare to evacuate entire cities and states. See this and this. Once the evacuations begin the markets will tank. Once people are forced to grasp what is happening around them the global economy will come to a screeching halt as it's engine, the USA, sinks into the throes of the worst environmental disaster in the history of the world. This will cause a dollar confidence crisis. Enraged citizens will riot and loot with no hope of a decent life ahead of them. Martial law will be declared.

They have no way to stop this, only a theory that maybe a nuke would implode the oil pocket. Ya, we're talking about nuking the earths crust under the ocean. Eventually the oil will make it's way around the world as the entire oil deposit is unleashed into the ocean.

Are you buying the crap coming from BP? The bogus press releases and the downplayed assessments? They've been lying through their teeth, censoring the media and destroying evidence. If you trust them, you have some problems.
 
Beneficial microbe's have been around a while, I've been working with them for years and have found them to be very effective in neutralizing oil and gasoline, they are also very safe for the environment and will work in salt water.
Caustic said:
I doubt BP will allow the use of microbes. They will continue to spray their toxic dispersant because they own the company that manufactures it and they are profiting from it.
Yea I think your right BP is more concerned about profits than the environment, BP and its executive's are listed under the definition of pyschopathy.

From some of the reports coming out the spill is going way beyond just clean up, they're saying that it might be impossible to close the well and gases like Hydrogen Sulfide, Benzene and Methylene Chloride are leaking at such a rate that it could be lethal, compound that with hurricane season just around the corner and you got the makings of a major catastrophe!

It's an good example of what happens when psychopaths get a strangle hold on the planet, it's just sicking!
 
There is now a Deep Horizon Response Unified Command under Admiral Thad Allen. This is the official government website with press releases and updates on the official story line. The US military has established command over the attempt to drill relief wells into the stricken bore hole and plug the casing with cement at a point slightly above the reservoir. Who commands the US military?

I have been following the threads on theoildrum.com. A divergence of interest is apparent between the American oil industry operators and British Petroleum. Anadarko Petroleum is a partner with BP on the Deepwater Horizon project. Anadarko is accusing British Petroleum of gross negligence in a Press Release on June 18.

http://www.anadarko.com/Investor/Pages/NewsReleases/NewsReleases.aspx?release-id=1439839 said:
"The mounting evidence clearly demonstrates that this tragedy was preventable and the direct result of BP's reckless decisions and actions. Frankly, we are shocked by the publicly available information that has been disclosed in recent investigations and during this week's testimony that, among other things, indicates BP operated unsafely and failed to monitor and react to several critical warning signs during the drilling of the Macondo well. BP's behavior and actions likely represent gross negligence or willful misconduct and thus affect the obligations of the parties under the operating agreement," continued Hackett.

A question arises in the mind. Is the Deepwater Horizon oil disaster the result of British Petroleum's reckless greed or is there a dark agenda? When we look at the history of British Petroleum as an operating arm of the British Empire we must ask what benefit or aim the British Empire would have in perpetrating a disaster in the Gulf of Mexico. Could this be a false flag operation? Who or what are the dark forces behind the curtain controlling the British Empire? How far down the rabbit hole are we, Alice?

_http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/Articles/False_Flag_New_World_Order.htm

False Flag Operations: The Crisis Route to the New World Order said:
David Rockefeller said, “All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World Order.” Rahm Emanuel said, “You never want a serious crisis to go to waste. And what I mean by that is an opportunity to do things you think you could not do before.” In the Project for a New American Century document Rebuilding America’s Defenses: Strategy, Forces and Resources for a New Century we find the following: “Further, the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event – like a new Pearl Harbor.”

The story is that the Deepwater Horizon oil disaster is an accident based on human error, but this far down the rabbit hole that cover story no longer suffices. I can tell you, EE comes in handy when we get objective about the players and structure of our reality and refuse the sedative of wishful thinking or entertainment as sufficient meaning and significance for our lives.
 
I've been considering this idea of 'false flag' lately, too. It is nearly impossible for us to track things back to the elite groups that instigate actions like this, but it does fit into the agenda of take-over. I don't think the evidence we've seen points directly to sabotage in the conventional sense, but the drilling of this well in the manner it was drilled could have been encouraged. From all reports the people actually doing the drilling were frightened and expected things to go wrong. And then there are the reports of BP's CEO and Goldman selling off large quantities of shares beforehand, ala 9-11.
It is a bit off this topic, but connected to the general decline to mention this radio interview with Michel Chossudovsky. _http://www.kpfa.org/archive/id/61523
It is well worth a listen, IMO. He paints a picture rather convincingly of what is going on in the world right now on many fronts, as orchestrated by the elite. This sort of shock-doctrine tactic is just what they do.
 
TOXIC ALERT BP Death Clouds Have Come Onshore Benzene 3400ppb Hyrdrogen Sulfide 1200ppb

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PiOYqHkvxM&feature=related

This would be a good time to Exit Louisiana and other near bye areas. If mandatory evacuation should happen, people are going to be corralled into Fema camps. OSIT
 
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