Neuroendocrine tumours / cancer

Starshine

Starshine

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Hello fellows,
I'm creating a thread to discuss this specific cancer, which I didn't know much about and seems not so common, and not much studied either.
A friend of mine has it, but I was not sure what kind of cancer it was, I just knew the liver and pancreas were involved, we never really went into the details as we don't see each other so often nor are we so proximate, the situation was sort of steady from an external point of view.
Today I saw her father, then her husband too, they just had terrible news, she was having abdominal pain, so they checked, and actually the tumors have grown over the intestines, pancreas and liver, ovaries and clavicle. They're going to do a puncture because she has a lot of water in her intestines, hoping that this liquid doesn't contain cancerous cells. The oncologist is quite concerned this time, and they are considering switching from drug-based chemotherapy to intravenous chemotherapy, as well as surgery for the ovarian tumors.

I did a search over here and was going to try to find solutions or ways to help. They'd like to at least understand the root cause of it, and it seems not so easy to find out.
It was diagnosed two years ago, but you wouldn't know she had cancer if you saw her. It was a slow progression and sometimes people discover they have it when they end up doing other exams, if they have chronic stomach ache for example.

Here is a description :

Neuroendocrine Tumors (NETs) | Knight Cancer Institute | OHSU

Learn about treatment for neuroendocrine tumors (NETs) and neuroendocrine cancer at the OHSU Knight Cancer Institute in Portland, Oregon.
www.ohsu.edu www.ohsu.edu
Neuroendocrine tumors (NETs) are a rare but complex type of cancer that can arise in many parts of the body. Because NETs are uncommon, it’s important to get care from doctors with expertise in this condition.
The OHSU Knight Cancer Institute is one of the few hospitals in the nation with a team focused on NETs. We offer:
  • A multidisciplinary approach, in which experts from different specialties work together. You benefit from their combined knowledge.
  • The latest diagnostic techniques.
  • The latest therapies, including radiopharmaceuticals like PRRT.
  • A wide range of clinical trials for promising new therapies.
  • A full range of support services for you and your family.

Understanding NETs​

Despite their name, NETs don’t usually occur in the brain. They start in the neuroendocrine cells. These cells are found in many organs throughout your body. They listen to signals from nerve cells and respond by making hormones that they release into the bloodstream.
Sometimes these cells begin to divide and grow out of control, forming tumors. Sometimes these tumors disrupt your hormone levels and throw your body out of balance.
Most NETs grow slowly and don’t spread. But some grow faster and can spread to other parts of the body.
About 95% of NETs develop in the digestive tract, the pancreas or in the lungs. They can be difficult to diagnose because they may cause no or few symptoms.
We use the term NETs to describe a vast range of tumors, but each NET is as unique as each patient. This means we tailor your treatment to your specific tumor.

Functioning and nonfunctioning NETs​

Most NETs are nonfunctioning, which means they do not produce hormones.
But some NETs are functioning, which means they can disrupt your hormone levels. These NETs cause hypersecretion, or over-production of hormones. Here are some examples:
  • Gastrinomas: These tumors make gastrin, which causes the stomach to make acid to digest food. Too much gastrin can lead to stomach ulcers (open sores) and pain.
  • Insulinomas: These make insulin. Too much can lead to low blood sugar, which can cause confusion, fatigue, irritability, weakness and lightheadedness.
  • Glucagonomas: These make glucagon, which raises blood sugar levels. Too much can cause diabetes, with symptoms such as thirst and frequent urination. Patients can also develop other symptoms, including a red blistering rash on the face, stomach or legs.
  • Somatostatinomas: These tumors make somatostatin, which controls other hormones. Symptoms of too much somatostatin include high blood sugar, diarrhea, gallstones, jaundice, weight loss and foul-smelling stools.
  • VIPomas: These produce vasoactive intestinal peptide. Too much can cause symptoms such as severe watery diarrhea, thirst, headaches, dizziness, fatigue, weight loss, muscle weakness and belly pain or cramps.
  • PPomas: These make pancreatic polypeptide, which helps regulate the pancreas. Symptoms can include watery diarrhea, belly pain and an enlarged liver.
Who gets NETs?
NETs are rare. Roughly five in 100,000 people in the U.S. are diagnosed with a NET each year. But incidence rates are rising, in part because tests are getting better.
What causes NETs?
Researchers are still trying to figure out the cause of NETs. A small portion of NETs are linked to inherited genetic conditions such as:
  • Multiple endocrine neoplasia Type 1, or MEN1
  • Neurofibromatosis Type 1
  • Von-Hippel Lindau syndrome
We offer genetic counseling if you think you might have a family history of cancer.
Types of NETs
  • Gastroenteropancreatic NETs (also called GEP-NETs): These are the most common NETs. They include both small intestine NETs and pancreatic NETs.
  • Pancreatic NETs (PNETs): These arise in the pancreas, the gland that controls digestion and blood sugar levels. PNETs may disrupt the hormone system that governs digestion, thirst and hunger. They are sometimes known as islet cell tumors because they form in cell clusters that resemble islands.
  • Small intestine NETs (also known by the older term carcinoid tumor): These slow-growing tumors are found in the lining of the gastrointestinal tract, which has more neuroendocrine cells than anywhere in the body. About 8,000 cases of this type are diagnosed in the U.S. every year.
  • Bronchopulmonary NETs: These are tumors that develop in the lungs and airways.
  • Neuroendocrine carcinomas (NECs): These are rare but often aggressive cancers that require prompt treatment.
  • Merkel cell carcinoma: This uncommon skin cancer typically grows in areas with high sun exposure. Symptoms include firm bumps that are usually red, pink or purple. About 1,500 cases are diagnosed in the U.S. every year. More than 9 in 10 people affected are older than 50, and more than 9 in 10 cases are found in white people.
  • Medullary thyroid carcinoma: This cancer develops in the cells that produce calcitonin, which controls the amount of calcium in the body.
  • Pheochromocytomas and paragangliomas: These extremely rare tumors form in the adrenal glands or along the spinal cord. They release hormones that cause high blood pressure, elevated heart rate and other issues.
  • Rare NETs: NETs can also arise in the kidneys, the thymus and the thyroid.
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Endocrine disruptors are probably to blame, eliminating lectins and taking iodine seem like reasonable choices, but I will abstain myself from making any recommendation now. We just hope to support them in this trial and will do our best to be on their side. I will propose prayer and faith first.
 
We had the opportunity to meet and talk about it a little more. It was diagnosed two years ago, November 2021, originating in the pancreas. As it was during the Covid vaccination craze, they strongly pressured her to get vaccinated even though she was against it originally. They succeeded in frightening her as they suggested Covid could be a killer as her immune system was too weak to face it. She had one dose and managed to not get any booster since. I wonder if the spike protein accelerated it. She made some change towards her diet since and really try to not ingest too much sugar.
Coronavirus Pandemic: Apocalypse Now! Or exaggerated scare story?

The first puncture failed and they will try again this week.

As there are not much information about this type of tumors, I was searching more specifically what could disrupt the endocrine system. That's how I saw lectins are a big suspect.
Gaby said:
An update to keep in mind why staying away of all gluten sources and evil lectins is so important:

The Effect of Dietary Lectins on Thyroid TSH Receptors

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Effects of Dietary Lectins on the Thyroid

Lectins can attach themselves to Thyroid Stimulating Hormone (TSH) receptor sites and play havoc in two ways. The first is that the Lectins are able to “fit” the receptor sufficiently enough to stimulate the thyroid but the effects are different in those with hyperthyroid or Autoimmune Hyperthyroid and low thyroid or Hashimoto thyroiditis. The second effect is that the immune response to the lectin stimulation starts an autoimmune response to the thyroid stimulating hormone (TSH) receptors on the thyroid.

What Is a Lectin?

The production of lectins, alkaloids and secondary metabolites are a defense mechanism to protect themselves and their seeds from consumption while the plant is growing and before the seeds are ready for dispersal. For the purposes of this blog the listed secondary metabolites listed below will be referred to as Lectins unless specifically mentioned. Lectins occur naturally in organic and conventionally grown vegetables and fruit. Lectins occur artificially in Genetically Modified and Selectively Bred – organically or conventionally grown vegetables and fruits.

Plant Lectin Regulation of Vegetable & Fruit Consumption

Plants invest energy into the production of seeds. Plants have evolved to encourage vegetable and fruit seed dispersal but also evolved mechanisms to decrease consumption of vegetables and fruits when unripe and from non-seed dispersing predators. To this end, plants have developed physical and chemical deterrents.

Physical deterrents:

Cryptic coloration (e.g. green fruits blend in with the plant leaves)
Unpalatable textures (e.g. thick skins made of anti-nutritive substances)
Resins and saps (e.g. prevent animals from swallowing)
Repellent substances, hard outer coats, spines, thorns.

Chemical deterrents

When immature or out-of-season, the seed, grain, vegetable or fruit are protected by chemical deterrents such as lectins to keep themselves from being eaten to extinction. Chemical deterrents in plants are called secondary metabolites, i.e. trypsin inhibitor, chymotrypsin inhibitor, α-amylase inhibitor, phytohemagluttinin (lectin), phytic acid, oxalic acid, nitrate and nitrite, L-mimosine, canavanine, L-DOPA, glucosinolates, cyanogenic glucosides/cyanogens, tannins, gossypol, chlorogenic acid, saponins, phorbol esters and alkaloids.

Damage Caused By Lectins:

They bind to the thyroid TSH-receptors acting as long-acting thyroid stimulator (LATS) stimulating the activation of TSH-receptor antibodies.
Lectins acting as LATS stimulate overproduction of thyroid hormones in those suffering from Hyperthyroid or Graves disease.
Lectins acting as LATS block production of thyroid hormones in those suffering from low thyroid or Hashimoto’s thyroiditis.
Lectins are toxic to wounded cells and inhibit the natural repair system of the GI tract.
Lectins are known to “unlock” (breakthrough) the barrier variables of the GI lining and allow large undigested protein molecules into the bloodstream.
Lectins serve as a “Trojan horse” allowing intact or nearly intact foreign proteins to invade our barrier variables (natural gut defenses) and enter behind the lines causing damage well beyond the gut and into the joints, brain and skin of affected individuals provoking cytokine immune responses.
They can bind to red blood cells causing the cells to clump together resulting in a form of anemia.
They can damage collagen and connective tissues in joints.
They are directly related to Rheumatoid Arthritis.
They can bind to the stomach lining even when the pH is 3 or less.
They stimulate abnormal thickening of the pancreas interfering with exocrine cells production of enzymes and endocrine cells production of insulin.
They stimulate abnormal thickening of the lining of the gut.
They damage the villi lining the gut.
They stimulate the shift the microbial ecology promoting the overgrowth of E. coli.
The abnormal thickening of the pancreas and gut lining plus the microbial shift exacts a nutritional penalty on the absorption of nutrition.
They can provoke IgG and IgM antibodies causing Type 2 Hypersensitivity immune responses.
They provoke a direct cytokine driven immune response causing cytokine storms, invisible illness symptoms and cytokine-induced sickness behavior.

Effects of Dietary Lectins on the Thyroid

Lectins can attach themselves to a thyroid receptor site and play havoc in two ways. The first is that the Lectins are able to “fit” the receptor sufficiently enough to stimulate the thyroid but not enough fit sufficiently to produce thyroid hormones. The second effect is that the immune response to the lectin stimulation starts an autoimmune response to the thyroid.

Thyroid stimulating hormone (TSH) at various concentrations significantly increased the response of lymphocytes to both lectins found in legumes and in other vegetables and fruit. Lectins may cause the activation of ‘long-acting thyroid stimulator (LATS)’ also known as thyroid stimulating immunoglobulins, or TSI, in the blood. TSI or LATS are antibodies that bind to special receptors on the thyroid gland than normally bind to thyroid stimulating hormone (TSH). TSH is the hormone that stimulates the thyroid gland to secrete thyroid hormones. TSIs mimic the effect of TSH, thereby causing the thyroid to secrete excess thyroid hormone. LATS mimic the effect of TSH only stimulating the thyroid but not producing any thyroid hormones.

Lectins act as Long-Acting Thyroid Stimulators (LATS) and cause the activation of Thyroid Stimulating Hormone Receptor Antibodies (TSH-R Ab). These LATS appear to act similarly to TSH after attaching to the TSH receptor. The LATS are able to “fit” the receptor sufficiently well to stimulate the thyroid while blocking the production of thyroid hormones. This activates the immune system to produce TSH-R Ab to the thyroid stimulating hormone receptors. TSH-R Ab Autoantibodies act as thyroid stimulator agonist in autoimmune hyperthyroid (Graves disease) mimicking the effects of TSH and causes the overproduction of thyroid hormones with hyperthyroid symptoms. TSH-R Ab act as TSH antagonist in autoimmune hypothyroidism (Hashimoto thyroiditis) causing an inverse reaction blocking the production of thyroid hormones making it seem as if the individual is suffering from a low thyroid.

For those with low thyroid, their TSH levels will be low but the thyroid is being stimulated resulting in swelling, tenderness and irritation to the thyroid. Those who have Hashimoto’s, hyperthyroid or Grave’s disease the TSH-R antibody will stimulate the production of TPO antibodies resulting in an immune attack on the thyroid causing further destruction. This is often the case for those with elevated TPO antibodies who are doing all the right things but still have high TPO Ab.

Lectin excited T cells, which produce immunoglobulin excited thyroid function, causing hyperthyroidism. Although pituitary TSH release is suppressed, thyroid-stimulating antibodies not subject to negative feedback maintain the hyperthyroidism. These antibodies appear to act similarly to TSH and via the TSH receptor.

Lectin Exposure Symptoms

Symptoms could be obvious, such as gas, bloating, diarrhea, or constipation (or both, alternating). Less obvious food related symptoms may include headache, fatigue, ‘indigestion,’ skin problems including hives, psoriasis, acne, swollen joints, or water retention. While some symptoms will resolve quickly after eliminating an offending family, other symptoms may take 6-12 months. Be patient. If you are genetically intolerant, you will never be able to consume that group of foods safely.

Some symptoms may occur chronically and may seem unrelated to a gut/food or lectin intolerance reactions. This group of symptoms includes the so-called degenerative diseases and autoimmune diseases like those mentioned in the list at the beginning of this report including ‘Invisible Illness,’ Cytokine-Induced Sickness Behavior, atherosclerosis, hypertension, osteoporosis, senile dementia, osteoarthritis and Rheumatoid Arthritis, inflammatory joint diseases, fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue, and adult onset diabetes. Obesity has been associated with consumption of ‘edible enemy’ lectins.

Lectin Toxicity Evades Antibody-Based Blood Tests

The type of harm lectins do is harder to diagnose than in classically defined food allergies or sensitivities. In other words, confirmation of intolerance will not be found in IgA, IgG, IgE antibody, allergy or intestinal biopsy testing because the damage done is a direct cytokine driven response, and not necessarily immune-medicated or only secondarily so. Intestinal biopsy testing may be suspect because lectins cause a thickening of the intestinal lining. The medical community is looking for thinning and damage to the intestinal lining.

The diagnostic “invisibility” is why lectin consumption is rarely linked to the ailments that afflict those who consume them. While lectins are not the sole or primary cause of a wide range of disorders, them are a major factor in sustaining or reinforcing injuries or diseases once they are initiated and/or established in the body. This response will deplete your anti-inflammatory cytokines and inhibitory neurotransmitters. Many will suffer cytokine storms during flair-ups. Some will develop into an invisible illness known as Cytokine-Induce Sickness Behavior.

Once lectins make it through a compromised mucosa and/or digestive lining. It can exert systemic effects which can easily become overlooked as being caused by eating legumes, fruits or vegetables. The best tests to determine how lectins are affecting your cytokine immune status and neurotransmitter levels are the:

Neuroscience Stimulated Cytokine Analysis Comprehensive
Neuroscience NeuroEndocrine Comprehensive

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Four Different Hashimoto Patients – Four Different Immune Responses

All had bad reactions with the Th1/TH2 challenge. Why? All suffered a lectin driven immune response. All have an overactive Th17 immune response. Three have a suppressed TH1 response. One has a suppressed TH2 response. The upper right is immunocompromised. The lower right is immune stimulated to everything. The lower left is a raw vegan over-consuming Soft and Hard Lectins. The upper left TH1 immune system collapses when exposed to bacteria driving straight into TH17.

Systemic Effect of Lectins

Lectins may influence absorption, metabolism and systemic availability of nutrition by two different but possibly simultaneous mechanisms.

Lectins can indirectly influence hormones (the endocrine system of the body) by binding to the neuroendocrine cells of the gut and as a consequence of this input, release message molecules (hormones) to the blood. Alternatively, lectins can pass through the gut wall into the blood circulation and thus may directly influence peripheral tissues and body metabolism by mimicking the effects of endocrine hormones. The organs most often affected are the pancreas, skeletal muscle, liver, kidneys and thymus.

Thymus, spleen and other organs: Overconsumption of Soft Lectins causes the thymus and spleen to begin decreasing in size wasting away. Some of these are irreversible with potentially serious consequences for the immune system, especially T cell-mediated immunity.

Effects of Dietary Lectins on Inflammatory Cytokines

Cytokines are several different types of substances that are produced by cells within the immune system. These substances relay signals between the immune system cells. By relaying messages between the cells, these cytokines help to trigger the immune system’s response to whatever threat is present.

Lectins strikingly increase levels of multiple pro-inflammatory cytokines (especially interleukin 2 receptor (IL-2), tumor necrosis factor alpha (TNF-α), IL-6, IL-8).

Cytokines, (mediators of acute inflammation) are generated to induce cell breakdown and death. Cytokines can produce an inflammatory response to food independent of the allergic reaction that most are familiar with. Food allergy or cross-reactive testing will not detect a cytokine induced inflammatory response to food. This requires specialized testing done with the NEI Stimulated Cytokine panel that measures these cytokine and chemokines.

A phenomenon involving the function of inflammatory cytokines is known as a cytokine storm. Essentially, this is a situation where the balance of communication between immune cells and the cytokines present is interrupted.

When the inflammatory cytokines are involved in some sort of storm situation, there is a loopback created between both types of cytokines and the immune cells. The pro-inflammatory cytokines go wild – like college students on Spring Break. There are several common signs that indicate that a storm is present, including fever, body aches and nausea, along with stronger symptoms that are related directly to the ailment itself. Similar to how the college student feels after a week long binge that does not wear off.

Immune Supportive Supplements

A person is said to be immunocompromised when their immune system is incapable of working at full capacity. The immune system is how the body fights off diseases and protects itself against new infections, so someone who is immunocompromised will usually get sick more often, stay sick longer, and be more vulnerable to different types of infections. They may be more inclined to use supplements to stimulate the immune system. Until they become immune suppressed. Then they rarely get “sick.” Immunosuppressed individuals never feel well and start developing symptoms associated with Cytokine Induced Sickness Behavior (CISB).

Information from secondary sources suggests that supplementing with immune stimulating supplements, i.e. thymus gland extracts, have been shown to enhance responsiveness to Lectins and have been able to produce an cytokine storm in immunocompromised patients.

Lectins: Edible Enemies

Being realistic regarding diet is that there is always a sliding scale of lesser evils that we exchange for the experience of enjoying our foods and obtaining the comfort they provide. Because some food toxins cannot be removed from foods and other may be created during processing or cooking, consumption of small quantities of food toxins is unavoidable.

How problematic or reactive lectins are for you depends upon the health of your gastrointestinal lining, the behavior of your microflora and your immune status. If you have a Ghetto Gut where the gut lining is impaired, the microbes are misbehaving, and your ability to produce digestive chemistry is less than optimal. Any food you commonly eat will provoke a reaction including organic foods. This combination of factors will change your immune status depleting the inhibitory neurotransmitters and anti-inflammatory cytokines necessary to control the Neuro-Endo-Immune Super-system. When it comes to the immune response, small insignificant changes in lectin exposure can mean the difference between being reactive or not.

More links on the original article.
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Mycoplasma and Iodine/Boron deficiency ? Iodine and Potassium Iodide

- Could it be that the deficiency of iodine and boron is widespread, and the excess fluoride make it possible for the mycoplasma to host our cells? -as it "paralyze" the thyroid, or at least make the body temp lower than optimal.

-as we know, boron and iodine are fluoride busters (in addition to a few other)
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Symbolically : Causes of symptoms according to Louise Hay | The Alchemy of Healing

Cancer: Deep hurt. Longstanding resentment. Deep secret or grief eating away at the self. Carrying hatreds.
Edema: What or who won’t you let go of?
Pancreas: Represents the sweetness of life.
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There are many possibilities or suggestions to be made, but I'm not sure what is best to advise considering they are not so familiar with all the material presented here and that can represent quite a lot of data to process.

For now, she will give a go to Eiru Eolas to manage the stress of having to go through all these exams, and soon the intravenous chemotherapy.

IR/NIR light, Iodine ?
Intermittent fasting with chemo ?

The session from the 13th of May 2023 seems the most interesting.

5/10 g Liposomal Vitamin C per day, 1g/hour during perfusion
90 minutes HBOT daily (that might be more complicated)
Vitamin D 30 000 UI daily
Intermittent fasting (8h minimum)
Glucose and glutamine restriction - Metabolic approach
Fenbendazole
Glucose regulator : berberine or metformin
Food sensitivity testing
Low carb

From other sessions :

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Session 24 August 1996

August 24, 1996 Frank, Laura, V Background: I had been in twice-weekly physical therapy for almost two years following an auto accident in late 1994. I usually didn’t mention it in the sessions but at this particular point in time, probably due to the intensive body-work that was being done...
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(V) I have been helping a woman who has cancer. I see her cancer as a sideline even though it is in the lymph system. Is this correct?

A: Cancer is always a "sideline."

Q: (V) When I was working with her, I felt a lot of energy flow coming up from her solar plexus. Was this the disease energy leaving?

A: Constriction easing. If she wants to remain on third density, she must change a 28 year long outlook, and purge feelings, rather than collecting them as a "sponge." Also, dietary changes are needed. We suggest sauerkraut extract and fruit juices and broccoli. She needs colonic therapy, and if diagnosis is "terminal," why are poisonous treatments a consideration? We strongly recommend that you suggest a change in the 28 year long outlook. She must purge and cleanse her mind, body, and soul, as with ALL cancer patients.
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Session 10 December 1994

December 10, 1994 Frank, Laura, Terry and Jan. Q: (L) Hello. A: Hello. Poinsettia. Q: (L) What? A: Just came to mind. Q: (L) Is that in our minds? A: No, ours. Q: (L) Who do we have with us tonight? A: Cassiopaea calling. Q: (L) What is your name? A: Rodann. Q: (L) I want...
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Q: (L) I would like to know if there is anything T G could do to enhance his recovery from cancer?

A: PMA. Positive Mental Attitude.
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Session 13 March 2021

Session Date: March 13th 2021 Laura, Andromeda, and Artemis at the board Pierre, Joe, Chu, Ark, PoB, Scottie, Niall Q: (L) Hello. We're here. A: Lovely to be with you again. Gossuriah of Cassiopaea here now. Q: (L) Okay. What do we want to start off with? Do we want to start off with these...
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(L) Deckard wants to know why he got cancer.

A: FRV.

Q: (Pierre) Entropic FRV?

A: Not "entropic" so much as negative internalizations.

Q: (L) So, he really needs to work on his FRV. Is that it?

A: Yes
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On Iodine : Session 21 November 2015
(L) Maybe you don't have a problem. Maybe the terrain is already clean. He did say that not everybody is deficient to the point of inducing a condition. But almost everybody needs more iodine than they are getting if for no other reason than to detox metals. Apparently we need at least 12.5 milligrams a day, NOT micrograms, and that is just for the body; no detox included in that amount! Apparently, it’s not just the thyroid that is hungry for iodine. It is also concentrated in the salivary glands, the lining of the stomach and small intestine, the breasts and ovaries, the eyes, the part of the brain where cerebro-spinal fluid is produced, and the part of the brain involved in Parkinson’s disease. So a lack of iodine might be involved in that condition too!

(Perceval) Taking iodine supposedly gives you energy, but that's from what? Killing critters?

(L) No, it gives you energy for other reasons. But it also kills critters and it also removes metals which could be interfering with energy. You gotta read the book.

(Perceval) How does it give you energy?

(Alana) It feeds your glands, basically.

(L) It feeds the thyroid gland which sets the rate of your metabolism; it needs iodine to do what it does to enable energy to be utilized by cells; something like that. It does all of these different things... read the book!

(nicklebleu) It feeds every cell.

(L) It has a profound effect also on your energy metabolism. Timótheos wants to ask: When is the best time to take the salt water in relation to your doses?

A: As you have learned it is good to start the day with a glass of warm salted water. Then you can take more a couple of hours after your iodine.

Q: (L) If you're taking 2 doses, you take 3 glass of salt water.

A: Yes.

Q: (Perceval) I noticed it tasted good this morning, as well.

(Timótheos) I take the salt water and iodine at the same time first thing when I get up. Is that not right?

(Chu) No.

(Perceval) It's good to start the day with the salted water as soon as you get up. Then after breakfast, take your iodine.

(Alana) That's what I do.

(L) Yeah. So, is that good?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Okay. And it is said that a person needs to take not only way more than the RDA, but even more than that to keep up with the ongoing toxicity that we are exposed to every single day. Clearly, we can’t get that level of iodine from our food so supplementing is the only option.

(Chu) So, could this be like the antidote to the effects of the frequency fence?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) So if you don't have any metals poisoning your body, and you don't have any critters colonizing your body, then the frequency beaming of the PTB can't get to you. Is that it?

A: Yes more or less.

Q: (Galatea) And also it blocks radiation in general.

A: Yes.

Q: (Perceval) The frequency fence probably works on people because they're toxified and weak.

A: Yes absolutely. People will be amazed at how strong their will becomes!

Q: (Galatea) I wonder if it also works against skin cancer?

A: Yes

Q: (Galatea) Yay! I can go outside.

(nicklebleu) It's usually said in terms of nuclear radiation or fallout that iodine is only good to protect the thyroid. Does it have other protective effects in this regard?

A: Protects all the glandular systems which are your interface with higher densities.
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Would any of you have some suggestions ? @Gaby ? @Keyhole ?
 
I tried to summarize the elements I could gather for them with links for their own research in a PDF file, trying to find potential causes and solutions. I'm trying to figure out what are the priorities right now for them to consider implementing, keeping in mind that cautions are to be taken relative to the tumors' behavior, which I'm certainly not qualified to assess.

Potential priorities :​

Spike protein detox Protocol​

I am not sure which one to advocate for, since there are many and the cautions are numerous depending on what is given. Yet, I will redirect them to World Council For Health for an accessible one in French. There is also Mc Cullough's, FLCCC's and of course the one you produced.
Aims:
  • Improve cell energy turnover through stimulating mitochondrial energy metabolism
  • Immune modulation to prevent excessive/hyper-reactive immune response
  • Increase likelihood of mTOR inhibition to potentially reduce the likelihood of intracellular mRNA translation (theory)
  • Support antioxidant system and detoxification pathways
1-2 weeks BEFORE Vaccination

Immune modulators, anti-inflammatory and antioxidants

Glutathione & Precursors:
  • N-acetylcysteine (NAC) - 600mg x 4 per day (any brand)
  • Glycine - 5 grams powder per day
  • Liposomal glutathione - 500mg x 2 per day on an empty stomach (brand example here)
  • Rosemarinic acid - Source: example here for US. Alternatively, here in tincture form for UK/EU. Dose: 4-6 caps per day or, if using tincture, the dose recommended on the bottle
  • Curcumin - Seeking Health brand - Liposomal Curcumin & Resveratrol (available in most countries). 1 & ¼ tsp two times per day, on an empty stomach
  • Vitamin C - Dose (?)
  • Vitamin D - Dose (?)
Mitchondrial Cocktail:
Lifestyle interventions:
  • Cold therapy (cold showers, bathing - equal minutes per degree Celsius of water)
  • Fasting/calorie restriction - one possible idea is to fast for 12-24 hours before having the vaccine administered. After approximately 12 hours of fasting, mTOR is inhibited and AMPK is activated.
  • Type of exercise: Moderate-high intensity endurance exercise. Probably best to avoid weight lifting/resistance training in the days prior to vaccination.
Immediately AFTER Vaccination
  • 500mg liposomal glutathione, vitamin C (dose?)
  • Epsom salts bath - 4 cups salts, duration 20-30 minutes
  • Immediately enter sauna, endure 40-60 minutes at a reasonable temperature
  • After sauna, large glass of water containing: 1/4 tsp activated charcoal, 1/4 tsp bentonite clay (or alternatively 4 caps of a full-spectrum binder such as GI Detox by Bio-botanical Research).
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Top ten spike protein detox essentials:​

  • Vitamin D
  • Vitamin C
  • NAC (N-acetylcysteine)
  • Ivermectin
  • Nigella seed
  • Quercetin
  • Zinc
  • Magnesium
  • Curcumin
  • Milk thistle extract
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Mc Cullough's trio:​

  • Bromelain 500mg
  • Curcumin 500mg
  • Nattokinase 2000UF If no blood thinners
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FLCCC
First Line Therapies​

(Not symptom specific; listed in order of importance)
  • Intermittent daily fasting or periodic daily fasts
  • Ivermectin
  • Moderating physical activity
  • Low-dose naltrexone
  • Nattokinase
  • Aspirin
  • Melatonin
  • Magnesium
  • Methylene blue
  • Sunlight and Photobiomodulation
  • Resveratrol

Probiotics/Prebiotics/Adjunctive/Second-Line Therapies​

(Listed in order of importance)
  • Vitamin D (with Vitamin K2)
  • N-acetyl cysteine
  • Cardio Miracle™ and L-arginine/L-citrulline supplements
  • Omega-3 fatty acids
  • Sildenafil (with or without L-arginine- L-citrulline)
  • Nigella sativa
  • Vitamin C
  • Spermidine
  • Non-invasive brain stimulation
  • Intravenous Vitamin C
  • Behavioral modification, relaxation therapy, mindfulness therapy, and psychological support

Third Line Therapies​

  • Hyperbaric oxygen therapy
  • Low Magnitude Mechanical Stimulation
  • “Mitochondrial energy optimizer”
  • Hydroxychloroquine
  • Low-dose corticosteroid
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The Cs adovated for this in relation to cancer in this session from the 13th of May 2023

5/10 g Liposomal Vitamin C per day, 1g/hour during perfusion
90 minutes HBOT daily
Vitamin D 30 000 UI daily
Intermittent fasting (8h minimum)
Glucose and glutamine restriction - Metabolic approach
Fenbendazole
Glucose regulator : berberine or metformin
Food sensitivity testing
Low carb
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What would be the most important and safest to give in this situation ?

Diet intervention​

FLCCC warns about fasting in relation to cancer, so I am not sure Intermittent fasting is to be recommended, even though it seems to promote the chemotherapy action.
While autophagy may prevent cancers from occurring in the first place, once cells have begun a malignant transformation, autophagy may promote their growth. Cancer cells have an increased metabolic demand for energy and macromolecular building blocks to proliferate, and they have shown elevated levels of autophagy to recycle nutrients. Therefore, patients with cancer should use caution in activating autophagy (fasting) and should discuss fasting and fasting protocols with their treating oncologist.
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She already has been experimenting with low glycemic index diet for some time, even though I don't know the precise details of it.
The best suggestion seems to be the ketogenic diet in order to achieve glucose starvation first. I still need to listen to Dr Seyfried when I'll have time. Eliminating lectins, vegetable oils, MSG would help on the endocrine system.

Can a diet intervention at this stage be problematic if she experiments a keto flu or something alike?
Any recommendation on digestive enzymes or just a good complex will do?

Complementary interventions​

  • FAR Infrared blanket: 44°C – 1h sessions, I have one to lend. (Koanna)
  • NIR/IR light
  • Grounding
For HBOT it might be a bit more complicated, and other resources will necessitate more investigation.
 
In fact in veterinary circles lately there is some research that suggests that there is another or third syndrome affecting adrenal glands
( so far only Cushings syndrome and Addisons syndrome have been recognized both in animals and humans) called Plechner’s Syndrome. This causes elevated level of total estrogen both in males and females which can be related to cancer.

What is Plechner’s Syndrome? - Dr. Alfred Plechner

Plechner’s Syndrome is one of the three most important syndromes effecting the adrenal cortex, the other two being Cushing’s Syndrome and Addison’s Syndrom
drplechner.com
 
I had the opportunity to talk to her husband today and get some news. I gave him the link to this thread so that he can follow if there are any recommendation made.
Her liver grew by 30%, and apparently she produces a lot of acetite and has taken a lot of weight in a week (7 to 10 kg, I can't remember correctly) which is mostly water.
They don't recommend taking vitamin C as it is acidic. I guess they figured it would be ascorbic acid that would be given? Would sodium ascorbate do?
They abandoned the idea of the puncture by fear of damaging the organs.
The two of them are kind of lost about what to do, and where to direct their energy. Likewise, they talked about potential diet implications, and the oncologist was not much incline to consider such an aspect.
 
She had a puncture on Monday and 3 liters of liquid were removed and are currently analyzed.
Her protein level is low from what I understand. She is exhausted. Results concerning kidneys are overall good, even though her husband talked about kidney failure on Monday related to ascites.
The disease has become severe in the last few days, everything happens in a bit of an emergency, and I can't say I know much about the details of it all.
It's tough for both of them to go through it all. They feel overwhelmed by the whole situation.
 
Hi Starshine,
I am so sorry to hear what is happening for Meghann, that feels/sounds incredibly overwhelming for her - and her husband.

I was thinking about what you have posted about her situation and thought maybe the links at the end of this message might be food for thought from a metaphysical perspective, particularly given that the diagnosis was prior to being vaccinated.

Some time ago, Chu mentioned an author and book - Joman Romero 'Knowing Ourselves: What does the body want to tell us with diseases?'. I had seen Romero's work before but had also realised while watching an interview with him that he was connected to a group that is linked to 'New German Medicine'. My quote below and the post from Niall will help you have a little clarity around this.

Personally there are some things Romero says about EMF, food, solar radiation etc not attributing to or being the cause of illness (I see that very differently) however I encourage Meghann to focus on the root issues he mentions connected to disease.

The links may help Meghann explore some possible issues she might not have realised were affecting her. There can be times when we may / may not have conscious awareness relating to unresolved issues or trauma and these can be directly connected to what our body is trying to help us see / acknowledge. Sometimes the wounds can be from things we have no memory or knowledge of, but still, it might help her to explore this info on some level when she is feeling a bit stronger; it sounds like she is very drained on every level right now.

forest_light said:
Just a little heads up...
A while ago I came across the book you mentioned: Knowing Ourselves: What does the body want to tell us with diseases? by Joman Romero. I discovered he has some connection with New German Medicine and researched this subject on the forum to see what was said as I saw some strange energy and ideas connected to them. A post from Niall in the Coronavirus thread briefly touches on the NGM subject. That is not to say that Romero's instincts or 'awareness' about the core reasons for health issue are wrong at all, just that he is connected to the NGM crew and people might want to bear that in mind.

In the YouTube interview he talks about his own childhood and severe lung issues / how he began to explore the path of wellness / deeper issues connected to illness. His views are interesting, many things he spoke of resonated with me but also seem quite logical, while others seemed a bit far fetched. FWIW.
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I would have copied the most relevant info for each of the links and summarised each issue below, but you can't copy text from his web pages. I did provide some info for the first link. I think he offers concepts worth consideration. Many seem very logical.

Nothing below should be taken directly as 'health advice', the info is merely a 'tool' for reflection and contemplation. I pray that whatever she explores, she is able to find life transforming answers / healing pathways that help her profoundly. Don't know if Meghann writes a dream journal, but it could help on some level... we get some pretty powerful messages through our dreams.

Meghann is incredibly blessed to have a wonderful friend like you Starshine, who clearly cares so much for her, who is doing so much to be supportive and find genuine pathways that may help her heal. I am sure that she and her husband are very grateful. They would be feeling so lost, filled with fear and have so many questions. It is a very overwhelming learning curve when you get so sick so quickly. Diet would definitely be a good thing to look at, as well as bone broth, educating self about keto adapted, no cooking in teflon, blocking all EMF, working on gut biome/mitochondria, sleeping in a pitch black room, no phones on at night or any tech in the bedroom etc... I could go on and on...
Sending many prayers. ✨:hug2:

CANCER: CANCER, emotional and spiritual meaning

Today it is still considered as the great "bogeyman" of humanity as a devastating disease and, almost everyone is terrified of being able to contract it. But what is cancer? What is known at the social level about this disease?

It is still believed that there is no cure (if it is not arrived in time, they say), and that it is necessary to undergo a medical protocol that includes chemotherapy and / or radiotherapy, plus subsequent treatment for several years.

In addition, they tell us, we must pray that it does not return or that it does not invade other organs (metastasis), which leaves those who have it quite depressed and discouraged.

That is, from the moment the cancer is diagnosed, a struggle between life and death begins in the individual.

Many people still believe that this disease has an external origin and they attribute it to food, microwave radiation, telephone antennas and even solar radiation, but this is not the case. [That is very debatable in my opinion!]

According to Dr. R. Hamer [New German Medicine], cancer originates as a result of a personal tragedy (such as the one he experienced himself, the death of his son).

It is an unexpected, high-intensity emotional impact that catches the person completely unprepared and, furthermore, due to their education, their fears, their beliefs, etc is not allowed to express her suffering.

Rather, he lives it in inner isolation; he keeps it within himself, without sharing it with the people around him.

And furthermore, you can't find a solution, you can't do anything, you can't see the way out.

Of course, we are not talking about a minor conflict, no.

It is always a tremendously strong and heartbreaking experience that the person has been unable to bear, such as the death of a loved one, an unexpected separation, the betrayal of someone we trusted blindly, an infidelity of our partner whom we love deeply or the loss of a job, a house, a property, money, etc.

This blow will gradually affect the entire psychological structure of the person and will damage his ability to experience the joy of living.

Without a doubt, it must be said that not all emotional impacts produce cancer or any other serious disease, no.

It depends on how the person reacts, how they cope, depending on their way of being, their strength, beliefs, etc.

It is still believed that it is the tumor that kills the person, but in reality it is not.

What can kill is the dramatic emotional conflict that he experienced which sapped his strength, weakened him and undermined his desire to continue living. Undoubtedly, if the conflict lasts his energy will diminish and, eventually, he dies from energy depletion, not from the tumor.

As you can understand, such a situation cannot be cured with medicines (radiotherapy, chemotherapy), which by the way, have very important side effects due to their toxicity.

And what they do is weakens the immune system of the person, which as we have said was already quite deteriorated by suffering, due to the emotional impact that it experienced.

Following the judgment and experience of Dr. Hamer, all diseases have a special biological meaning and purpose that can be explained and understood through biology, embryology, and evolutionary tasks.

He considers the disease as a natural biological process that the organism sets in motion when it suffers a strong, unexpected traumatic shock, capable of generating what he would call a "biological conflict".

Conflict that while not resolved leads the body to respond with a series of changes in its cells that can cause various pathologies, cancer included.

However, when that conflict is resolved in a definitive way and there are no relapses, a healing process is entered.

Thus, the patient once he has known and understood the how and why of his illness it is enough to follow a few simple non-aggressive therapeutic measures to heal.

With which it is possible to conclude that a disease is not a problem, it is a solution, it is a biological attempt at a solution.

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I want to emphasize that the majority of cancer cases are due to their own emotional impacts, but in those cases that the individual does not recognize having lived a dramatic experience like the ones I have described or, in those children who are already born with this disease, we will have to analyze the Sense Project, to discover if it was our mother who lived it or to turn to our genealogical tree to analyze if it is a program that we have inherited from an ancestor.


To conclude, I would like to emphasize that cancer is a disease that, like any other, is totally curable, although it is, and must be recognized, a more painful and longer process.


Generally, the time it takes for a tumor manifest ranges from 6 months to 1 year, after the dramatic event occurred to the person.


I absolutely want to make it clear that there is no need to pay any attention to that phrase that has already become a refrain of "if it is discovered in time." No, it has nothing to do with the healing process.


And of course it is not, at all, about waging a war against cancer, but rather we must understand it.


Healing depends exclusively on the sick person, because only she will be able to face the emotional situation that made her sick, creatively, only she will be able to express the true feelings that she repressed and that were the ones that made her sick.
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PANCREAS: PANCREAS disorders, emotional and spiritual meaning

LIVER: LIVER, emotional and spiritual meaning

OVARIES: OVARIES disorders, emotional and spiritual meaning

Note: on these webpages you can use the 'search' function to look up other health issues
(located top right hand side of the page)
 
Thank you for your response, forest_light. I was aware of Dr Hamer's work and also transmitted some info about the potential symbolism involved, yet it is a better summary than what I've given them. Louise Hay's work come to mind too.

I didn't reply because the situation has deteriorated quite rapidly since the last update. Intravenous chemotherapy began on Friday and was scheduled to last three days with a ten-day rest period. On Saturday afternoon, they had to transfer her to intensive care as she became too weak.
Her father told me this morning that she had water in her lungs and the situation seems to be extremely serious so far.
We pray for her.
 
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