Occupy Wall Street Video Project
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mada85
The Cosmic Force
In reading FifthWay's posts about this issue, although FW's answers appear to be plain and honest, I sense a certain slipperiness and a certain smoothness, as though FW is always trying to look good. Also, I feel a bit confused, as though FW wants me to think that he is an open and honest guy when I read his posts, but the underlying message is rather different. Of course, this may just be FW's writing style, but nevertheless it is an impression I formed.
I also notice that getting answers seems rather like pulling teeth – a slow and painful process wherein little is volunteered by FifthWay, and it seems that the truth has to be extracted slowly and painfully. My impression also is that FW would not have mentioned any of this information voluntarily.
These impressions don't encourage the confidence to pledge any money to the project, and certainly not until these issues are resolved.
I find it most interesting that Guardian described herself as a very suspicious woman, and yet without her suspiciousness, none of this information would have come to light. It just shows that in a network there is a place for all kinds of talents, and even those that are sometimes seen as negative can be used for positive purposes.
I also notice that getting answers seems rather like pulling teeth – a slow and painful process wherein little is volunteered by FifthWay, and it seems that the truth has to be extracted slowly and painfully. My impression also is that FW would not have mentioned any of this information voluntarily.
These impressions don't encourage the confidence to pledge any money to the project, and certainly not until these issues are resolved.
I find it most interesting that Guardian described herself as a very suspicious woman, and yet without her suspiciousness, none of this information would have come to light. It just shows that in a network there is a place for all kinds of talents, and even those that are sometimes seen as negative can be used for positive purposes.
Guardian
The Cosmic Force
Laura said:
Gawd I know how overworked yawl are, and I so did not want to drop this in your lap! I was really hoping what I was hearing was wrong.
I thought about confronting Alex with the questions I had on Facebook, where he's doing most of his soliciting, but that could have backfired against the group if I was right.
I think there is intentional deception somewhere. Horovitz-Jackson have been receiving the Biennial statements for Alex's corp since at least 2007. I can't believe they wouldn't write "not at this address" on the notices, considering who they are and what they do, unless they are involved. It's also too much of a coincidence to me that Jackson is partnered with the woman who was President of the company that bought GT Racer.
That's always possible. I can see why the Israeli propaganda machine would want to manipulate the common perception of psychopathy and/or make this group look bad.
Mrs.Tigersoap
The Living Force
About trusting long-time members too quickly: I for one won't be saying 'lesson learned' too quickly because this is not a first for me. I tend to assume that long-time members and mods know better and are to be trusted in all cases. In the past, there have been cases when this was not necessarily true and I see that this positive bias towards long-time members and mods is still going strong in me. It's like covariation detection (to quote Wilson) is optional in my machine. Because apparently, this bias is so strong in me that despite having witnessed several times that it is not valid (long-time members and mods are humans and make mistakes), I cannot change it.
Mrs.Tigersoap
The Living Force
Endymion said:
Yes but I equally find it distressing that I cannot watch my own back...
Al Today
The Living Force
Laura said:
Being out here in the "wilderness" (cornville) I have no contact with other forum members. I am not privy to the face to face meetings, nor am I in a position to understand the full context of this situation. What I do know is that I cannot read minds. I can only evaluate the words I see on computer screen. I only hope that if one has a lesson to be learned, that it may be learned. If one is indeed a vulture, then let it be brought out into the network.
With respect, I hope a lesson of falling down the social ladder is needed. Many of us out here are only a few paychecks from financial ruin and indescribable fear and potential homelessness.
anart
A Disturbance in the Force
Laura said:
I think this thread from summer of last year is very relevant to the discussion: Difficulties of Recognizing our own Incompetence. This suggestion is made with the assumption that Alexander is really completely unaware of his incompetence - and that he's not just working a con of some sort.
I must admit I'm really shocked myself and also angry how it all unfolded, that again the team gets kind of a hit and also the other things at the moment. It's like you cannot trust yourself, not another person…
Maybe one important point is also in continuing to network, to be active, since for example FW was it rarely in recent years.
Maybe one important point is also in continuing to network, to be active, since for example FW was it rarely in recent years.
the thing is you can read and do as much as you want on your own but without a good network it is almost a certainty that you will fall into delusions.
I just reread some of my early posts on this forum.
what is clear to me: I wouldn't be where I am today if I wouldn't followed this forum so closely and interacted within it. Period.
most likely I would be on a much bigger delusion trip without the forum.
I just reread some of my early posts on this forum.
what is clear to me: I wouldn't be where I am today if I wouldn't followed this forum so closely and interacted within it. Period.
most likely I would be on a much bigger delusion trip without the forum.
