PSY-OPS Web Forums: Book of Thoth

[Tigersoap]

There are video previews of his DVDs on youtube.
They don't say much but it gives you an idea of the business behind it and the ideas promulgated.

I looked the name Gardner and Gardiner for fun and these names are variants of the name Gardener : Possibly derived from the Saxon words gar meaning "a weapon", and dyn meaning "sound, alarm", combined with the termination er.
Or garden keeper in the case of Gardiner.

It's a common name though.

And there is a Gardner snake.

 

[THoTH]

Very interesting: Duelling Crowley-ist magickal types. And a lawyer who got a little science under his belt. Truly fantastic. A Gardner and a Gardiner.

No duelling, and from my end, no magickal type here, but then again I don't stereotype ;) I've not much respect for Crowley, I used the name because of the idea of the "book of thoth" from Egyptian mythology.

But then, there is Isis and her fake thoth web to play "bad cop."
Pretty comprehensive program they have going on there.

:D

You think we're all disinformation agents? maybe take a look at my website ? :) We're on the same side ;) Still, I wouldn't mind the pay cheque of an agent

 

[Laura]

You think we're all disinformation agents?

Not necessarily. But with the experiences we have had, including a concentrated defamation campaign against us by a well connected Crowley type, death threats, life-threatening physical actions taken against us and our children (which is why we left the U.S., live in seclusion with high security, etc) I kinda tend to be over-cautious and look for the "signs." Crowley and "Thoth" being bandied about are generally not good signs.

maybe take a look at my website ? smile We're on the same side wink

Okay. I will do so.

Still, I wouldn't mind the pay cheque of an agent lol

Me either. Among some of the funnier claims by the smear campaign gang is that we are funded by George Soros to do experiments in psy-ops. I want my money so I can take a much needed vacation!

 

[Miss Isness]

It's easy to declare, 'We're on the same side,' but not terribly convincing on it's own. That type of comment obviously needs to be backed up by examples of a common approach, if you want it to be taken seriously. I had a cursory look through some of Gardiner's articles, and it seems to me that he's reiterating the typical new age stuff that can be found on numerous other sites. Laura, on the other hand, has proven capable of arriving at some more unique and useful conclusions, through her painstaking research. Conscious agent, or not, it's possible to lead others astray with the best of intentions.

 

[THoTH]

Not necessarily. But with the experiences we have had, including a concentrated defamation campaign against us by a well connected Crowley type, death threats, life-threatening physical actions taken against us and our children (which is why we left the U.S., live in seclusion with high security, etc) I kinda tend to be over-cautious and look for the "signs." Crowley and "Thoth" being bandied about are generally not good signs.

Well rest assured that I'm not connected with anything of that nature, from my side, a lot of people assume from the name alone that the site is crowley related, or that it endorses him/his views. As mentioned it doesn't. It's an all purpose site centred around the paranormal mainly, but we discuss conspiracies and politics and the like also. That's shocking what has happened to you, no wonder you're cautious!

maybe take a look at my website ? smile We're on the same side wink

Okay. I will do so.

:)

Me either. Among some of the funnier claims by the smear campaign gang is that we are funded by George Soros to do experiments in psy-ops. I want my money so I can take a much needed vacation!

Thats the thing with this, people make all kinds of assumptions, or assume there's hidden agendas. Nothing could be further from the truth with my site :)

 

[CarpeDiem]

(smile) We're on the same side (wink)

I think C's would give to Laura and Frank a one-word answer to that:
A: Open.

sleek, professional, un-tainted material; no comparison to Carolyn Evers bigotry. Different level. And i was fascinated by their cryptozoology section.
If Thoth is on the same side, then why don't read this threads
The Controversy of Zion
The Zionist vision of Eretz Israel
Timeline of Zionist Terror
The Armenian Holocaust and the semitic connection.
The Hidden History of Zionism
Do they echo book-of Thoth's Recent History section? OR it's NOT our recent history?

 

[John G]

Cool. A "scientist" with a law degree. Like a fish with a bicycle.

It is strange but I actually know two people (Tony Smith and Huping Hu) who are both physicists and lawyers. I met Huping at a conference here in Tucson where Tony had been scheduled to attend before canceling at the last minute (due to a legal battle with Cornell which is located near where I used to live). Huping told me he and Tony had something in common and I'm thinking their ideas aren't all that close before he made me laugh by saying they are both lawyers.

 

[rs]

It is strange but I actually know two people (Tony Smith and Huping Hu) who are both physicists and lawyers.

Yep, "186,000 miles per second, its not just a good idea its the law". A "mere" physicist would not be able to enforce it, therefore the need for a lawyer... ;)

 

[THoTH]

(smile) We're on the same side (wink)

I think C's would give to Laura and Frank a one-word answer to that:
A: Open.

sleek, professional, un-tainted material; no comparison to Carolyn Evers bigotry. Different level. And i was fascinated by their cryptozoology section.
If Thoth is on the same side, then why don't read this threads
The Controversy of Zion
The Zionist vision of Eretz Israel
Timeline of Zionist Terror
The Armenian Holocaust and the semitic connection.
The Hidden History of Zionism
Do they echo book-of Thoth's Recent History section? OR it's NOT our recent history?

The answer to that one is boringly simple I'm afraid, time. We've over 10,000 topics, over 100,000 posts, nearly 5000 members, hundreds of thousands of pages, you try running a site like that ! I'll guarantee if you look you'll find we're on the same side amigo. I'm currently working with MAD from nwowatcher.com on his site too ;)

Take a look in our Leaves of Wisdom too, a wealth of info in there hXXp://www.book-of-thoth.com/thebook/index.php

hXXp://www.book-of-thoth.com/forum-32.html - Conspiracy Forums

hXXp://www.book-of-thoth.com/thebook/index.php/The_Protocols_of_the_Elders_of_Zion

hXXp://www.book-of-thoth.com/thebook/index.php/Abraham_Isaac_Kook

hXXp://www.book-of-thoth.com/ftopicp-127381.html

hXXp://www.book-of-thoth.com/the-archive-conspiracy-section1.html

hXXp://www.book-of-thoth.com/the-archive-conspiracy-section2.html

etc etc etc ..

 

[anart]

The answer to that one is boringly simple I'm afraid, time. We've over 10,000 topics, over 100,000 posts, nearly 5000 members, hundreds of thousands of pages, you try running a site like that ! I'll guarantee if you look you'll find we're on the same side amigo.

Sorry, but this makes little to no sense. Are you saying that the size of your site prevents you from controlling the content? Are you agreeing with CarpeDiem or disagreeing with him?

 

[THoTH]

He asked me why I didn't read those links, I was explaining that keeping a site like mine maintained leaves little time for this kind of thing ;)

 

[anart]

Ahh, thanks for the explanation. How much of this site have you had a chance to read, if I might ask? Just wondering, since you are sure that we are on the 'same side' as you put it.

 

[THoTH]

All due respect Anart, but my response about being on the same side was because there were things being intimated, being a crowleyite, or an agent or having some agenda. I was demonstrating that isn't the case, and largely we are on the same side. I've seen the discussions here, and they're not that far removed from the ones that take place on mine.

 

[CarpeDiem]

Thoth, thanks for taking time for replying. I would like to refrain from taking advantage of your time spent here, therefore i will cut my questions short:

The answer to that one is boringly simple I'm afraid, time. We've over 10,000 topics, over 100,000 posts, nearly 5000 members, hundreds of thousands of pages, you try running a site like that ! I'll guarantee if you look you'll find we're on the same side amigo.
[...] I was explaining that keeping a site like mine maintained leaves little time for this kind of thing

Your site, without doubt, impresses at least by its gross size, osit. What is your site aimed at? Why do you dedicate so much time to your site, what are your goals? You stated that sott and book-of-Thoth 'are on the same side'. How did you come to that conclusion? To state that 'we are at the same page' you must have read at least some sott materials. Did any of materials here disturbed, outraged you? Do you agree with everything presented here that logically would enable you to state 'we are at the same page'?

largely we are on the same side. I've seen the discussions here, and they're not that far removed from the ones that take place on mine.

'Not that far' - 'Far' is subjective, osit. How far your 'not far' might be? Do you discuss Zionism and Israeli occupation of Palestine on your site for instance?

 

[Beau]

I was demonstrating that isn't the case, and largely we are on the same side. I've seen the discussions here, and they're not that far removed from the ones that take place on mine.

You did not demonstrate that you are not an agent. Sorry, not from what you wrote so far and from viewing your site. From what I can see the two forums have very little in common. Perhaps a little more time spent reading up on THIS forum will clearly show that. If you don't have the time to read anything else on this forum and are here merely to defend yourself, then your authenticity and sincerity shrivels up in my mind.