Putin giving away free land in the Far East?

Just a note that today I caught a recording on Russian 24 of the meeting Putin had with "internet entrepreneurs". Basically, there were people who created all kind of projects and sites online and they had a minute or two to present and explain their work and then ask for additional assistance from the President. Of course these people probably went through a thorough selection process since all the projects had broad social meaning and use.

But it made me think that similar opportunities are probably being given to people who would like assistance with other projects too. Maybe an organic farm or some other. Not long ago I actually saw a short TV coverage of one of such organic farms that one person created in the Far East. And they mentioned that it was created with the help of one of the programs similar to the "free land in the Far East" one.

Just wanted to mention it just in case someone would want to do something similar in the future. It looks like if someone will develop a good business plan, and this business will benefit many others, then there probably won't be a problem with receiving a governmental assistance.
 
Does anyone remember a C's session (i have tried looking with the search function but couldn't find it) where they talked about mankind in the future being divided in two. One half would live in cities and the other in the wilderness following the teachings of Jesus, or something of that sort.

I'm asking because that quote as stuck in my mind ever since, and i would like to reread it in light of the events that are unfolding.
 
Green_Manalishi said:
Does anyone remember a C's session (i have tried looking with the search function but couldn't find it) where they talked about mankind in the future being divided in two. One half would live in cities and the other in the wilderness following the teachings of Jesus, or something of that sort.

I'm asking because that quote as stuck in my mind ever since, and i would like to reread it in light of the events that are unfolding.

Is this the one you're looking for? Session 16 October 1994 http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,25981.0.html
[...]
Q: (L) He will teach via the media?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) And we are still going to have access to our media, television and radio and so forth?

A: Some.

Q: (L) Are some people at that point in time or just prior to this transition, going to leave in large groups with the Lizzies?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Are there going to be large groups of people moving into domed cities on the planet living in "cahoots" with the Lizzies?

A: Close.

Q: (L) In other words there may be areas of Lizzie control on the planet and areas under the control of Christ?

A: Christ does not control.

Q: (L) Will the Lizzie people come out of their cities from time to time and "molest" the followers of Christ from time to time?

A: Maybe.

Q: (L) So, in other words, we will have a greatly reduced population, people here and people there, none of whom are totally united on the planet?
[...]
 
Thanks Paul.

I'm not quite sure that was the one, because i have a vague recollection that the idea of the quote conveyed that people would be living in the wilderness opposed to living in cities.

What i was trying to get to was the following: Who was the figure of Jesus Christ apparently taken from? Julius Caesar. Who could be a somewhat similar figure to Caesar today? Vladimir Putin. And now Putin is "giving away" land for those that want to work on it!!

Maybe i didn't remember the quote in the session correctly, and it's just my mind playing tricks on me! :huh:
 
Laura said:
Maybe it's time for everyone to read the "Little House" series of books by Laura Ingalls Wilder?

From wikipedia [quote author=Wikipedia]
The Little House series is based on decades-old memories of Laura Ingalls Wilder's childhood in the Midwest region of the United States during the late 19th century. The books are told in the third person, with Laura Ingalls acting as the central character and protagonist, and are generally classified as fiction rather than as autobiography when categorized in libraries and bookstores.[1] Wilder's daughter, Rose Wilder Lane, assisted her mother with the editing of the works. The depth of her involvement, and the extent of her influence on the theme and content of the books, has been the subject of some scholarly debate in recent years. Almost all Wilder scholars and her biographers consider that the writing of the books was a tense but ultimately effective continuing collaboration between mother and daughter, with Wilder writing the books and her daughter editing them.

The books have remained continuously in print since their initial publication by Harper & Brothers. They are considered classics of American children's literature and remain widely read. The most current print edition contains illustrations by Garth Williams. The books were also adapted into the long-running, popular American television series Little House on the Prairie in 1974.[/quote]

Sorry it is probably stupidity of mine, but I did not get what you are hinting at, Laura.
 
Iron said:
Sorry it is probably stupidity of mine, but I did not get what you are hinting at, Laura.

Maybe the wiki-page about the TV series made from the books could help you out ?

The story line is typical Mid West survivalist drama curried with positive Christian flavors and highly pedantic at times. Very much in-your-face, so to speak. :rolleyes:

At least, that's what I remember about it from the scant views I took. Some people really loved it, but I was more on the haters' side of the audience. Couldn't stand it. :evil:
 
Understood. I looked into the wikipedia page in a hurry and could not grok it at first.
Thanks Palinurus.

Maybe it's a good idea to give this series a read sometime not far in the future.
 
Keit said:
In any case, speaking of nature and beauty of the region, it is indeed gorgeous. Here is my favorite movie that was posted on the Siberian Times YT channel. It's about Altai region that is closer to Novosibirsk (western Siberia), but still it demonstrates the magic of the place rather well.


Yearn!!!

Though it might be the camera, it seems as if the air is crystal clear so that it is like one can see better.
I remember a college of mine that had been to Greenland talking about that the air was so clear that she could both see and think better.
I think that apart from less pollution in places like that, that the crystal clear air feeling is only in cold places, because I've experienced it some, when it was really cold in the countryside in Denmark, and in Sweden. (but I imagine that it is more evident in places like Greenland and Siberia)

Though I can say from experience, that getting out of ones warm bed in the morning and sitting on a toilet where the water in the toilet has frozen can be a bit chilly (wakes you up alright) I can also say from experience that with the right clothes, it can be great to live in cold places. Of cause Denmark in the winter is not like Siberia in the winter, but I remember a very cold winter in my childhood, where it was -30 C at night, and if one had a snotty nose it would freeze before dripping (and to lick iron tubes is NOT recommended), and we didn't have central heating, and got stones heated on the stove packed in towels under the covers when going to bed, but apart from that not having heat in the bedroom, and though wearing a warm hat in bed, and mittens if one wanted to read before sleeping, we slept well in the cold.

Laura said:
Maybe it's time for everyone to read the "Little House" series of books by Laura Ingalls Wilder?

My mother read them to me and my sister when we were kids (except the last one as it is very tragic). They are really good, and surely give a good picture (and many survival tips) of how it is to live in the wilderness (play dead if you are chased by a bear, and tie a rope to your house to hold on to if you have to go across the courtyard in a snowstorm, and such )


Seaniebawn said:
I must check out if it's hard to apply for Russian citizenship ;D
Aiming said:
time to learn Russian already! :lkj:

I've had the thought from time to time since last summer. I think I saw a Putin quote somewhere that minorities were welcome in Russia, but they had to speak Russian (I don't know if that means that one should speak it before applying or if learning it after entering the country is good enough)
Anyways I thought that FOTCM is a minority so it might be an option. And also that learning Russian would probably be a good idea if one considers it (also it is a language with some totally cool sounds, and totally cool letters so it would be nice to know anyways)

Avala said:
1 hectare is more than enough for one average family. Where I live family agriculture is very undeveloped (think 19. century). Not many big farms. Families which live in villages usually have their houses, gardens (mostly season vegetables and some fruits) and animal stays (mostly pigs) all in a much smaller land that 1 hectare. For example my family has some 35 ares, and even that is not all used.

Land bigger than 1 hectare is if you wish to expand, to live from cutting the forest, corn crops, to get more wealth, more this or that . . . actually if you don’t have some good machinery (which costs big money!) very unpractical. (one of the reason why country where I live is getting more under 'wild' nature and greenery by the year. Especially on the land where in socialist times were big agricultural firms.)

I don't know if those measures is for pigs that are fed something grown somewhere else?
For example if one was thinking of having sheep or pigs that survived on what they can eat in nature (as opposed to growing grains to feed them with) how much food there is for them in 1 hectare ? (of cause that also depends on what is growing on that hectare) -one would probably have to supply their food in the winter though, so one would probably need to grow something on some of the land.

Paul said:
Is this the one you're looking for? Session 16 October 1994 http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,25981.0.html
[...]

Q: (L) Are there going to be large groups of people moving into domed cities on the planet living in "cahoots" with the Lizzies?

A: Close.
[...]

Well this might be why I'm getting all those signs to get the heck out of the city now, even though I didn't really want to move..
 
A joke I always voice is when TSHTF 'tis best to be two(2)/three(3) days walk from any city. That's because most people give up after walking for two(2)/three(3) days...
That being said...
If I were not handicapped and was thirty(30) years younger, I might seriously consider a situation such as this.
BUT...
As has been said, it's not where you are, but who/what you are...
 
I was thinking if anyone knows how many nuclear test bombings have been done in Siberia, and how much radioactivity there is now?
 
Miss.K said:
I was thinking if anyone knows how many nuclear test bombings have been done in Siberia, and how much radioactivity there is now?

Well, the Soviet Union tested its nuclear weapons mostly in Kazakhstan. As far as I know, Russia is not testing them in accordance with the relevant treaty.

There is also one site in the Arctic Ocean where some of those the tests were made, but it's not quite Siberia, it's an archipelago in the Russian Arctic.

And there are no nuclear powers stations in Siberia either, so the radioactivity level here is normal. fwiw
 
Thanks Siberia and Palinurus,

Looks more and more attractive, apart from the cold winters...but then one can have a lot of cats, dogs and horses to help keep one warm :)
 
As a Russian born,currently Australian based young man,I'd love to move there.Something about Russia...I just miss it.Even though it would be hard starting a life there,with some book smarts and a few friends it'd be manageable I think.Whether hunting or farming,something about a life in the great Siberian wilderness calls to me.Australian weather is too hot for me anyway :P
 
I have been also considering moving back to Russia (I was born in the USSR and moved away when I was a child). I lived in St. Petersburg for 3 months about 10 years ago and my impression was that it is still a difficult place to live and that I want to live somewhere else.

Among the biggest problems in my opinion are:
- the all-pervasive corruption
- lack of an effective police/judicial system
- quite a lot of criminal activity, though I am not sure how the rural areas compare to the big cities in this (which are probably not worse than other big cities around the world)

I am wondering how the forum members who live in Russia see these problems. Am I imagining these to be bigger than they really are?
 
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