Putin giving away free land in the Far East?

[Gaby]

Russian Duma committee approves bill to give land to foreigners in Far East

http://www.sott.net/article/316063-Russian-Duma-committee-approves-bill-to-give-land-to-foreigners-in-Far-East

A plot of land in Russia's Far East could be yours, after a Russian lower house committee approved a bill that, if passed, will introduce the free handover of land to Russians and foreigners who want to build homes or start businesses in agriculture or tourism in the region.

The Russian lower house Committee for Real Estate and Construction recommended that the State Duma approve the bill in the second reading in a session coming up on April 12. The parliament already approved the draft in the first reading on December 18, 2015.

The current document provides for the free handover of 1 hectare (about 2.5 acres) of land to foreign citizens. However, foreigners will only be allowed to use the land, and the registration of full property rights is only possible after the naturalization of potential owners.

The original bill was drafted by the Russian government in November last year. The explanations attached to the document read that the authorities expect the free land handover to attract more people to the Far East Federal District, to slow or stop the outward migration of locals, and to boost the socio-economic development of the territory.

Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev has also ordered the development of a special web service that will allow Russians to obtain all the necessary papers confirming their property rights remotely and with a minimum of red tape. The plots will be divided from land that's currently federal and municipal property.

The idea of a 'Russian Homestead Act' was first proposed in early 2015 by the presidential envoy to the Far East Federal District, Yury Trutnev, who proposed offering large plots of land for free to anyone who resettled to the Russian Far East to start a farm or other business. The plan also included the handover of one-hectare plots, a ban on selling the land received, and a five-year trial period.

As Trutnev presented his plan to the press, he said President Vladimir Putin had called the initiative correct in principle and noted that similar programs had been successfully implemented historically in Siberia. Putin also urged all the officials responsible for the plan to be precise and cautious when detailing the conditions for land ownership.

 

[Cosmos]

Russian Duma committee approves bill to give land to foreigners in Far East

http://www.sott.net/article/316063-Russian-Duma-committee-approves-bill-to-give-land-to-foreigners-in-Far-East

A plot of land in Russia's Far East could be yours, after a Russian lower house committee approved a bill that, if passed, will introduce the free handover of land to Russians and foreigners who want to build homes or start businesses in agriculture or tourism in the region.

The Russian lower house Committee for Real Estate and Construction recommended that the State Duma approve the bill in the second reading in a session coming up on April 12. The parliament already approved the draft in the first reading on December 18, 2015.

The current document provides for the free handover of 1 hectare (about 2.5 acres) of land to foreign citizens. However, foreigners will only be allowed to use the land, and the registration of full property rights is only possible after the naturalization of potential owners.

The original bill was drafted by the Russian government in November last year. The explanations attached to the document read that the authorities expect the free land handover to attract more people to the Far East Federal District, to slow or stop the outward migration of locals, and to boost the socio-economic development of the territory.

Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev has also ordered the development of a special web service that will allow Russians to obtain all the necessary papers confirming their property rights remotely and with a minimum of red tape. The plots will be divided from land that's currently federal and municipal property.

The idea of a 'Russian Homestead Act' was first proposed in early 2015 by the presidential envoy to the Far East Federal District, Yury Trutnev, who proposed offering large plots of land for free to anyone who resettled to the Russian Far East to start a farm or other business. The plan also included the handover of one-hectare plots, a ban on selling the land received, and a five-year trial period.

As Trutnev presented his plan to the press, he said President Vladimir Putin had called the initiative correct in principle and noted that similar programs had been successfully implemented historically in Siberia. Putin also urged all the officials responsible for the plan to be precise and cautious when detailing the conditions for land ownership.

Sounds pretty promising to me...

 

[nature]

Here is another advantage to live in a natural land, with minimum of technology ;)

Session 21 march 2015

(Perceval) When they said that entities love tech, is that why they said in a previous session that Wi-Fi is evil? Can these entities in some way influence the feelings of people in a house by these waves?

A: Related, certainly. Such energies can be drawn upon by all sorts of "critters" in your environment.

Q: (L) Here are some more questions: "The Black Eyed Kids (BECs) entities seem to have in their agenda to obtain the permission by their human victims to gain access to them. Is this assumption correct?"

A: No

Q: (L) "If yes, then the BECs, said to be window fallers, do they use this access to steal energy from humans for trying to return to their realm of origin?"

A: No, they need energy to stay in your realm.

Q: (L) Well, let me ask... Is it possible that this rash of Black-Eyed Children and other strange entity-related phenomena is a side effect or a result of having so much technology around?

A: Now you have opened a real can of worms!

Q: (L) So, basically by having so much technology, microwaves, and all that kind of stuff, we're basically feeding entities in other realms and enabling them to enter ours?

A: Pretty much! Fun for materialists galore!

Q: (L) In other words, people who believe only in technology are in for a big surprise?

A: Yes

Q: (L) Well, that's interesting.

(Perceval) Is it because those kinds of microwaves and other kinds of waves transcend, or are perceived in other dimensions?

A: Yes

Q: (Chu) Well, geez! Apple takes on a whole new meaning now!

(Data) Poor Apple users.

(Scottie) That answers my question from before: Why did technology evolve the way that it did? Like why electronics, microchips, and so on when there are other types of technology that could have developed. They had to make the soup!

 

[nature]

But Russian government is trying to save the situation somehow. For example, there is already a program in place called "the country doctor". It gives one million rubles to young doctors (up to 35 years old) to buy a house if they are willing to work at least 5 years in the country side - in one of the villages. There are also discounts and privileges for entrepreneurs and businessmen who want to open some kind of business in more remote areas of Siberia. And some of them are thriving, but not without an initial struggle. In the end it probably comes down to persons willingness to work hard and not giving up too easily.

I think that this is exactly the advantage of th situation: only people willing to work hard and persevere are going to go there (those who don't use the land will lose it again), so that means there's a high probability that psychopaths won't feel attracted to the place (at least in the initial stages, they'd come when there's enough built up to profit). Their absence would be good for building up communities.

Excellent!
- working hard: nothing is free, would say the C's
- no psychopaths: a good natural selection :)
It's very tempting

I was thinking about the same thing, because probably Putin not going to declare: "FOTCM members only"
to filter out pathological people! ;)

:)

 

[ng.kock.leong]

Hihi, I'm interested to join the program too.

Btw, any of you know where to apply for it? Had dropped an email to russian embassy in Singapore(where I reside) and still have not got a reply yet.

If any of you are interested, maybe we can group together and apply for nearby location.
Otherwise, might have to bring along my volleyball so that I have someone to talk to. :)

Also, how much dry rations (so that can estimate the cost needed) (eg 1 year) I will need in order to learn /build house and become self sufficient.

Btw, was thinking of bringing guitar to pass time after dark. If that a dumb idea? meaning will it attract aggressiveness from the wild life?

Thank You
Ng Kock Leong

 

[Gaby]

Ng Kock Leong

Welcome to the forum Ng Kock Leong.

Actually, seeing as this is your first post on the forum, we would appreciate it if you would post a brief intro about yourself in the Newbies section, telling us how you found this forum, how long you've been reading it and/or the SOTT page, whether or not you've read any of Laura's books yet, and other information you would like to share about yourself.

 

[Laura]

Actually, a group of people getting together to apply for land in adjacent locations is not a bad idea.

 

[ng.kock.leong]

Actually, a group of people getting together to apply for land in adjacent locations is not a bad idea.

Agreed... And I believe there is no psychotic here.

So long as believe in hard work, it is okay to be a bit eccentric :) (Not hinting that any of you are eccentric but rather I'm considered eccentric.)

Btw, personally I believe that before the land is given to us and they approved our naturalization, it is best not to invest too much money in it.
If they see too much high tech equipment there, they might require more "tea-money" before approving...

 

[Keit]

Agreed... And I believe there is no psychotic here.

What do you mean by that?

Just a note that in your introductory post you didn't mention if you are familiar with Laura's work and the aim of this forum. It would be great if you could expand on that too. :)

Btw, personally I believe that before the land is given to us and they approved our naturalization, it is best not to invest too much money in it.
If they see too much high tech equipment there, they might require more "tea-money" before approving...

Actually, one of the requirements of keeping the land is to do something with it and show that one is serious about helping to develop the region.

 

[ng.kock.leong]

Agreed... And I believe there is no psychotic here.

What do you mean by that?

I mean no people who will stab me to death with an ice pick (sadly not while fornication) while smiling and enjoying the act.
:P

Just a note that in your introductory post you didn't mention if y
ou are familiar with Laura's work and the aim of this forum. It would be great if you could expand on that too. :)

Sorry I'm not familiar with them... Any recommendations and place where I can read a chapter?

Actually, one of the requirements of keeping the land is to do something with it and show that one is serious about helping to develop the region.

Yap, thus thinking to do the bare minimum until land deed transfer to us and granted naturalization. :P
I could be wrong but heard that corruption is very rampant there.
Thus if place appeared too rich, probably will make trouble for us until given them "hefty compensation"?

 

[Gawan]

Just a note that in your introductory post you didn't mention if y
ou are familiar with Laura's work and the aim of this forum. It would be great if you could expand on that too. :)

Sorry I'm not familiar with them... Any recommendations and place where I can read a chapter?

Hi, you could start here, where all the chapters of the wave series are available:

Wave Series

or just have a look generally around Lauras material:

Cassiopaea.org

 

[Laura]

Actually, a group of people getting together to apply for land in adjacent locations is not a bad idea.

Agreed... And I believe there is no psychotic here.

So long as believe in hard work, it is okay to be a bit eccentric :) (Not hinting that any of you are eccentric but rather I'm considered eccentric.)

Btw, personally I believe that before the land is given to us and they approved our naturalization, it is best not to invest too much money in it.
If they see too much high tech equipment there, they might require more "tea-money" before approving...

I should have been clearer: I was acknowledging that your idea was a good one, but not necessarily including you in it since we don't have a clue who you are.

 

[Hindsight Man]

Tempting idea,though I know that I'll too pre-occupied at least for the next 4 or so years.But for those of you decide on going there,make sure you have a team with diverse skills.Plumbing,medicine,hunting etc.You'll also need to know yourself fairly well,how tough are you?Can you work with a broken finger,how well do you handle frigid temperature,can you really give up all the modern luxuries that our soft bodies are used to.Imagine not being able to shower and having to prepare a bath an hour ahead,depending on your setup.How will you get rid of trash etc.The practical aspect seems like a huge undertaking imo.

 

[Keit]

Yap, thus thinking to do the bare minimum until land deed transfer to us and granted naturalization. :P
I could be wrong but heard that corruption is very rampant there.
Thus if place appeared too rich, probably will make trouble for us until given them "hefty compensation"?

Actually, it's the other way around. The locals wanted to do a referendum regarding this new proposal (the government declined their request), because they are afraid that all kind of shady sources will use the land to search and excavate minerals and other resources. There are only specific regions that you can use for agriculture (since it is so cold there), and the rest are suitable either for building or reindeer/fluffy cows farms. Or for some other creative ideas.

Besides, if you are not willing to work hard during the first 5 years, what's the point of taking the land and going there anyway? This region is largely or completely cut off from any sort of infrastructure. And actually the land itself is very cheap there anyway, even in regions that are more closer to civilization. Meaning, there is no need to participate in the program in order to buy land dirt cheap.

Another thing to consider is that if you are a foreigner it is best to show the country you want to live in that you respect its laws and customs, especially when locals already weary of "outsiders" trying to use the situation. And trying to do "the bare minimum" in order to use the system to your advantage doesn't send the right message. ;) It doesn't provide any incentive to the authorities to be forthcoming, and also doesn't help with building ties with the rest of the local community. osit.

 

[Keit]

Well, I did some checking and apparently what I wrote in the previous post isn't relevant anymore, because they did corrections to the law and foreigners aren't allowed to participate in the program anyway. Only Russian citizens and those who were born in what is now Russia as part of the governmental supportive program of returning to the motherland.

Apparently around 30 million Russians expressed interest in the program, most of them of young age. There are various limitations to the program, such as: you can't buy land near cities or natural reserves, and you must use all the land for any purpose, otherwise after 5 years it will be taken from you. And there are some regulations regarding removing trees or damaging the forest and such.

There is a site in Russian where any Russian citizen within 15 minutes can choose their land and send a request. Even children younger than 18 years old can reserve their land. Until 1 of February, 2017 there is a priority for citizens of Far East.

The program is valid until 1 of January, 2035.

One important note that the program allows for several people (not necessarily family) to get together and get land for mutual purpose. Not sure if it means only one hectare or several, but it's good that they offer it non the less.

The rest of the process is being done online too. Here's a video that explains it. It's in Russian.

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