Putin Recognizes Donbass Republics, Sends Russian Military to 'Denazify' Ukraine

Lumiere_du_Code said:
Chernobyl is under the control of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation
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It reminded me about what C's said years ago: "Ukraine, explosion, chemical or nuclear". In a press-conference Putin said that due to enormous security risks they didn't let him a choice but to intervene. I got the impression that it wasn't only about helping people in Donbass. He could have just sent some military support to the Donbass region. Instead about 74 military objects around the whole Ukrainian territory were destroyed. They took over Chernobyl and an aeroport in Kiev.

So may be intervention of Putin has prevented something more nefarious that we know about and we are now in a different timeline where an explosion in Ukraine, chemical or nuclear, did not happen?
 
Altair said:
It reminded me about what C's said years ago: "Ukraine, explosion, chemical or nuclear". In a press-conference Putin said that due to enormous security risks they didn't let him a choice but to intervene. I got the impression that it wasn't only about helping people in Donbass. He could have just sent some military support to the Donbass region. Instead about 74 military objects around the whole Ukrainian territory were destroyed. They took over Chernobyl and an aeroport in Kiev.

So may be intervention of Putin has prevented something more nefarious that we know about and we are now in a different timeline where an explosion in Ukraine, chemical or nuclear, did not happen?
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Or is just has not happened yet.
 
Altair said:
It reminded me about what C's said years ago: "Ukraine, explosion, chemical or nuclear". In a press-conference Putin said that due to enormous security risks they didn't let him a choice but to intervene. I got the impression that it wasn't only about helping people in Donbass. He could have just sent some military support to the Donbass region. Instead about 74 military objects around the whole Ukrainian territory were destroyed. They took over Chernobyl and an aeroport in Kiev.

So may be intervention of Putin has prevented something more nefarious that we know about and we are now in a different timeline where an explosion in Ukraine, chemical or nuclear, did not happen?
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I think that is quite likely. The West were all talking about false flag thus likely hiding their own intent on using a false flag. A week ago, I got the feeling that if they did plan a false flag, then it would have to be big and a false flag on a nuclear power station would be big. It would be enough of an excuse for the West to actively go in militarily and take Ukraine and they would have the backing of their own populations. Now Putin pre-empted such a scenario. Such a scenario would also explain the moving of the US embassy to Lvov in the very Western part of Ukraine further from eventuell fall out. Any way it was just a possible scenario and might only have been in false feeling I had not corresponding to reality. But something did force Russia to act now and also with immense speed.
 
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Here's a comment from sott.net that claims to explain in a nutshell the overall situation. As somebody with very limited knowledge of geopolitical narratives I thought it was helpful.

In 2014, the Maidan colour revolution sponsored by "the West" established a puppet regime in Kiev, subservient to US and NATO interests.

The three eastern Ukrainian provinces of Lugansk, Donetsk (together known as the Donbass) and Crimea all held referendums in 2015 to sever political ties with the Kiev puppet regime because they are ethnically and linguistically Russian areas. All three areas agreed with majority referendums (85+%) to declare their independence from Ukraine. One province, Crimea, wished to cede their territory to Russian governance.

Meanwhile, the Ukrainian govt kept up military pressure on these provinces, particulary through the neo-Nazi Azov battalion/militia. Hostilities and civilian casualties were many, resulting in the creation of the Minsk Agreements to de-escalate Ukraine vs Ukraine infighting.

The Kiev govt never honoured any aspect of the Minsk agreements. After 8 years of genocide in the Donbass, the Russians have finally said, "Enough." The US & NATO want the Donbass genocide to continue (in addition to other anti-Russian rhetoric and objectives) so they sponsor Kiev.

That's the nutshell as far as I understand it.
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Onetrickponystar said:
This is an interesting thread on Twitter, by a guy who got suspended ofcourse. He connects the bombings in Ukraine with locations of US-run bio labs.

Archived link is here.

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from left field, sort of. Bio Labs. Never entered my mind, Bio Labs for USA in Ukraine.

This is like someone said, or parallel to the idea, Biden just wants to burn Ukraine to destroy evidence.... Not a perfect parallel but destruction of evidence of (to a citizen at the end of Covid anyway) bad activities but not carried out by the source of the bad activity (Biden burning Ukraine evidence) but by a knowledgeable opposition that is showing understanding and intelligent action.
 
Neil said:
So far, it looks like the Deep State is getting what they want, and things will proceed more or less according to plan for awhile unless/until Russia slips in some kind of asymmetric "surprise." The US wanted Russia to attack Ukraine and it did. The US wanted Russia to impose some kind of sanctions on the US to scapegoat them for the Biden administration's failures, and they will. The next step is to roll all of the Covid-19 emergency infrastructure into a response to an economic emergency ostensibly instigated by Russia via new lockdowns of some sort. I don't think anyone in the Washington establishment really expected Ukraine to stand a chance against Russia, they just wanted to fill the place with weaponry to generate as much annoyance as possible for Russia. So from my perspective, everything that has happened so far is well in hand for the Deep State...for now.
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Not to nitpick cause there's no need for that, but I think it's important that in the early stages we watch the way we frame it to ourselves and in our minds, because it helps paint a clearer picture to those who may not see it how we see it, and moreso in case we are talking in person with others. I had to be careful this morning when conversing with my dad not to trip over words, but Russia did not 'attack' Ukraine, much unlike the US did attack other countries in their petty little wars. I made sure to point that little detail out to my dad, there was no indiscriminate shelling, no carpet bombs, no chemical weapons, nothing like that. Russia did a surgical strike to remove a cancer from an area, that is all. Seeing as the war for optics has been US focus I think it's important we not help that narrative form to those who may not understand the finer details.

That is all, I just woke up from catching up on missed sleep 😅
 
Lyndi Lama said:
from left field, sort of. Bio Labs. Never entered my mind, Bio Labs for USA in Ukraine.

This is like someone said, or parallel to the idea, Biden just wants to burn Ukraine to destroy evidence.... Not a perfect parallel but destruction of evidence of (to a citizen at the end of Covid anyway) bad activities but not carried out by the source of the bad activity (Biden burning Ukraine evidence) but by a knowledgeable opposition that is showing understanding and intelligent action.
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Thinking about bio labs, and containment of the contents. Attacking bio labs, I hope this isn't resulting in a mass spread of biowarfare products. Is that figured into this attack? Are bio labs a kind of concrete bunker that a missile wouldn't ;enetrate. The thought just dropped in while I was spinning, physically. To be clear, not just mentally!
 
SOTTREADER said:
I hear this is being broadcasted as the start of WW3 by mainstream media in Eastern European countries aligned with NATO e.g. Poland.

Apparently some Ukrainians think they can repel the Russian military 😳
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They keep interviewing people live from Kiev on British radio stations. Consistently its some expat or some Ukie MP civilian who's been handed an AK-47 and suddenly thinks they can go toe-to-toe with a Spetsnaz brigade. They sound dangerously soft and deluded.

Hopefully there is not enough bloodshed for them to find out how wrong they are.
 
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