I hear you f1esk - that makes sense. Though I think its fair to say that all economic export activity within the Russian Federation that is now under western sanctions will find new markets in the south and far east, especially China. That is the principle pivot that Putin has set in motion and effectively he has written off European and Anglo-Saxon export markets for the foreseeable future whilst working tirelessly to establish new relationships and more politically stable markets. So yes a bumpy transition ahead no doubt but in the long run these integrated republics have a healthier future to look for post their dependence on the anti-Russian leadership in Kiev.
Putin Recognizes Donbass Republics, Sends Russian Military to 'Denazify' Ukraine
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It'll be interesting to see how Erdogan does with his balancing act, that's for sure. There comes a time when gamesmanship turns into a dangerous brinkmanship. I don't know much about the dynamics in Turkey, but it looks like the US might be in the process of turning the Republic of Cyprus into a weapon aimed at keeping the Turks in line.
Türkiye responds to US move on Cyprus
President Recep Tayyip Erdogan will boost Türkiye’s military presence in Cyprus as US lifts defense-trade restrictions for the island nation
According to the article, Erdogan was furious. Maybe that's a game, too. It's hard to say. I don't know how much longer the various international fence-sitters will be able to just wait this situation out. If Joe is right - and I think he is - then, as the US loses its grip on global dominance, there will be increasingly horrific decisions made in attempt to overturn the whole chessboard. In such a scenario, it's likely that leaders like Erdogan may start to lean more and more towards the multipolar option on the table, rather than throw their lot in with a rampaging, dying beast. Unless, of course, the blackmail is sufficiently strong. Hard to say at this point.
On a different note, wouldn't it be something if America's attempt to drive a massive wedge between Russia and Germany actually backfires, and drives them closer together? I recall reading that the US was quite busy for a number of years trying to divide China and Russia - and look what has happened as a result!
I'm thinking about the interests of different elite factions in Germany. The economic elites who own and operate giant, world-class, well-managed companies - plus their thousands of workers - can only look forwards to the destruction of their livelihoods. According to Lobaczewski, there is a certain level of political elites that operate as middle-managers between the higher up ponerized circles and the masses. These political managers have an obvious interest in becoming the new leaders. I've also heard that the German intelligence agencies weren't informed about the Nordstream operation - and thus may also be having second thoughts about the Eurocrats and the current political leadership.
I don't have a pulse on the German elites at all, aside from a few snippets here and there, but I can guess that many of the German industrialists are furious. If the middle managers and the German economic elites can form a coalition, maybe even help with certain elements of the intelligence elites, then we have the beginnings of a recipe elite turnover in Germany - as prophesied by Putin!
From SouthFront:
THE EXTREME DANGEROUSNESS OF CONTINUING TO HIDE THE U.S. GOVERNMENTS PSYCHOPATHY
Every psychopath is well practiced at lying; anyone who tolerates that person’s lying is not only encouraging psychopathy but is, oneself, psychopathically unconcerned about the public’s welfare, because any such encouragement will, itself, facilitate the further spreading of lies and deception of the public. This is how psychopathy, which is a merely personal disease, becomes spread and pandemic, thereby producing a dysfunctional society, widespread deception. It happens not only due to the presence of psychopaths, but also due to their passive assisters, who fail to call-out the lie and the liar and to expose them publicly so as to assist in penalizing them, instead of to assist the lies and liars, for those to spread and thrive.
Being a member of a society is to have both rights and obligations within it. Silence in the face of lies that one knows are false is a failure of such an obligation: an obligation to avoid willingly spreading a social disease — the disease of spreading those lies and that falsehood, to a rampantly and ever-increasingly contaminated public.
This was how it came to be that in 2003 the U.S. & UK Governments busted and neutered the U.N. by invading and occupying Iraq solely upon the basis of lies, and never prosecuted for having done so. Neither the Governments (their leaders) were prosecuted for it, nor the news-media (their controlling owners) that were controlled by the same group of billionaires (America’s billionaires, of both political Parties), were prosecuted for these international-war crimes. None of those leaders and their propaganda-organizations (or news-media — their owners) were prosecuted for having done, or assisted in doing, this. That clear fact has established a precedent which been followed, ever since, by constant international lying by those same two psychopathic regimes, and now it is heading toward production of a World War III on the same basis, of constant Governmental and news-media lying and spreading of lies. It is for “regime-change in Russia” instead of for “regime-change in Iraq,” but, just like before, the regimes that desperately NEED to be “changed” are the perpetrators of this enormous fraud, the ones that are in the United States and in the United Kingdom. The United Nations is sadly incapable of doing this — it has been virtually nullified ever since 2003 — but it must be done, before the end-result will annihilate us all.
The psychopathy of America’s leadership is now posing a mortal danger not only to the residents in one nation (Iraq; or, say, in Syria — there are so many other examples) but to the residents in all nations (WW III); and, if it is not stopped now, then the world will be stopped, and soon. This would be the extreme end of the pandemic of lies that go not only unpunished but hidden from the public, instead of exposed to the public (such as is being done here). If this pandemic — which is vastly worse even than the covid-19 disease or any other merely physical pandemic in all of human history — does not now get exposed in the full light of honest public disclosure (presumably by means of news-media that are NOT owned by U.S.-and-allied billionaires), then what hope will there be, for our children, and for their grandchildren (if this pandemic of evil will not have expired the world before then)? It is an obligation not ONLY to the wider public, but even to one’s own descendants (if any), because it is an obligation to — and on behalf of — everyone. This hiding of guilt needs to stop now, because later might be too late. So: please send the URL of this article to everyone you know, and to as many people as possible whom you don’t know, because it concerns everyone.
Investigative historian Eric Zuesse’s new book, AMERICA’S EMPIRE OF EVIL: Hitler’s Posthumous Victory, and Why the Social Sciences Need to Change, is about how America took over the world after World War II in order to enslave it to U.S.-and-allied billionaires. Their cartels extract the world’s wealth by control of not only their ‘news’ media but the social ‘sciences’ — duping the public.
THE EXTREME DANGEROUSNESS OF CONTINUING TO HIDE THE U.S. GOVERNMENTS PSYCHOPATHY
Every psychopath is well practiced at lying; anyone who tolerates that person’s lying is not only encouraging psychopathy but is, oneself, psychopathically unconcerned about the public’s welfare, because any such encouragement will, itself, facilitate the further spreading of lies and deception of the public. This is how psychopathy, which is a merely personal disease, becomes spread and pandemic, thereby producing a dysfunctional society, widespread deception. It happens not only due to the presence of psychopaths, but also due to their passive assisters, who fail to call-out the lie and the liar and to expose them publicly so as to assist in penalizing them, instead of to assist the lies and liars, for those to spread and thrive.
Being a member of a society is to have both rights and obligations within it. Silence in the face of lies that one knows are false is a failure of such an obligation: an obligation to avoid willingly spreading a social disease — the disease of spreading those lies and that falsehood, to a rampantly and ever-increasingly contaminated public.
This was how it came to be that in 2003 the U.S. & UK Governments busted and neutered the U.N. by invading and occupying Iraq solely upon the basis of lies, and never prosecuted for having done so. Neither the Governments (their leaders) were prosecuted for it, nor the news-media (their controlling owners) that were controlled by the same group of billionaires (America’s billionaires, of both political Parties), were prosecuted for these international-war crimes. None of those leaders and their propaganda-organizations (or news-media — their owners) were prosecuted for having done, or assisted in doing, this. That clear fact has established a precedent which been followed, ever since, by constant international lying by those same two psychopathic regimes, and now it is heading toward production of a World War III on the same basis, of constant Governmental and news-media lying and spreading of lies. It is for “regime-change in Russia” instead of for “regime-change in Iraq,” but, just like before, the regimes that desperately NEED to be “changed” are the perpetrators of this enormous fraud, the ones that are in the United States and in the United Kingdom. The United Nations is sadly incapable of doing this — it has been virtually nullified ever since 2003 — but it must be done, before the end-result will annihilate us all.
The psychopathy of America’s leadership is now posing a mortal danger not only to the residents in one nation (Iraq; or, say, in Syria — there are so many other examples) but to the residents in all nations (WW III); and, if it is not stopped now, then the world will be stopped, and soon. This would be the extreme end of the pandemic of lies that go not only unpunished but hidden from the public, instead of exposed to the public (such as is being done here). If this pandemic — which is vastly worse even than the covid-19 disease or any other merely physical pandemic in all of human history — does not now get exposed in the full light of honest public disclosure (presumably by means of news-media that are NOT owned by U.S.-and-allied billionaires), then what hope will there be, for our children, and for their grandchildren (if this pandemic of evil will not have expired the world before then)? It is an obligation not ONLY to the wider public, but even to one’s own descendants (if any), because it is an obligation to — and on behalf of — everyone. This hiding of guilt needs to stop now, because later might be too late. So: please send the URL of this article to everyone you know, and to as many people as possible whom you don’t know, because it concerns everyone.
Investigative historian Eric Zuesse’s new book, AMERICA’S EMPIRE OF EVIL: Hitler’s Posthumous Victory, and Why the Social Sciences Need to Change, is about how America took over the world after World War II in order to enslave it to U.S.-and-allied billionaires. Their cartels extract the world’s wealth by control of not only their ‘news’ media but the social ‘sciences’ — duping the public.
From Investment Watch:
The Anti-American Tone on German and Austrian Social Media has Escalated Dramatically
The Anti-American Tone on German and Austrian Social Media has Escalated Dramatically
Hmm - detecting a trend . . .
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I'm thinking the Cs said at some point the whole world is going to hate the USA. Are we seeing the beginning of this prediction?Hmm - detecting a trend . . .
From ZeroHedge:
Snowden Didn't "Flee to Russia": Obama Trapped Him There
When Russian President Vladimir Putin granted citizenship to NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden on Monday, the news revived a long-simmering debate about the propriety of his revelations of U.S. government secrets. At the same time, it prompted reiterations of a widely-embraced falsehood: that Snowden “fled to Russia.”
The disinformation-trafficking wasn’t limited to random people on social media. Among others, The New York Times, The Guardian, ABC, Christian Science Monitor and Canada’s CBC all asserted in the past week that Snowden “fled to Russia” in 2013 after revealing that the United States government had created a mass surveillance regime targeting its own citizens, in violation of the U.S. Constitution’s Fourth Amendment.
What many people don’t realize — and what some people both inside the government and out of it purposefully ignore — is that Snowden wasn’t traveling to Russia, but merely through it.
When he left Hong Kong after meeting with journalists Glenn Greenwald and Laura Poitras and turning over hundreds of thousands of stolen files, Snowden’s ultimate destination was Quito, Ecuador.
It’s important to note that Snowden says that, before leaving, he destroyed his cryptographic keys that provided him access to the files, and didn’t bring any copies of the files with him.
At the time, the Ecuadoran government was providing political asylum to Wikileaks publisher Julian Assange at the country’s London consulate, and Snowden hoped Ecuador would provide him asylum as well.
Snowden’s itinerary was arranged such that he wouldn’t land in countries that would extradite him to the United States. Nor would he cross U.S. airspace along the way. He was to make four flights in all, taking him from Hong Kong to Moscow, then Havana, Cuba; Caracas, Venezuela and finally Quito.
However, upon arriving in Moscow, Snowden was escorted by Russian security officials to an airport conference room, where they informed him that, while he was flying to Moscow, the Obama administration had invalidated his passport.
He’d spend the next 40 days at the Sheremetyevo airport, during which he applied to 27 countries for political asylum. “Not a single one of them was willing to stand up to American pressure,” Snowden wrote in his memoir, Permanent Record, “with some countries refusing outright, and others declaring they were unable to even consider my request until I arrived in their territory — a feat that was impossible.”
Seemingly tired of the spectacle, Putin granted Snowden asylum, and he’s been in Russia ever since. The essential point, however, is that Snowden is in Russia because the Obama administration deliberately trapped him there.
In 2013 and ever since, rabid Snowden detractors have failed to acknowledge how that move by the Obama White House belied its own assertions that Snowden was a traitor who traveled to Moscow with highly valuable intelligence information and was at high risk of turning it over to the Russian government.
Aside from revealing the unconstitutional surveillance regime, Snowden’s disclosures also proved that Director of National Intelligence James Clapper had committed perjury in testifying before Congress:
Clapper didn’t merely escape perjury charges, termination or a shameful resignation — CNN actually put him on the payroll as a “national security analyst,” giving him a pulpit from which to continue spewing all manner of falsehoods on behalf of the national security establishment, on everything from Russiagate to Hunter Biden’s laptop.
Meanwhile, though Snowden has been vindicated many times over — including a 2020 federal court ruling that the NSA’s surveillance program violated the Constitution — he’s compelled to live in Russia to escape prosecution under the Espionage Act of 1917.
Which brings us to another myth that goes hand-in-hand with “fled to Russia” falsehood: Detractors routinely say Snowden was a “coward” to flee the United States at all.
The noble course of action, they say, would be to go to trial in America and let a jury of his peers decide whether he was justified in exposing his government’s crimes by leaking secret documents to journalists.
However, as government-whistleblower attorney Jesselyn Radack explained in a Wall Street Journal op-ed, that’s not how Espionage Act prosecutions work:
In short, the only way for Snowden to be treated justly is for him to be pardoned or given a plea deal with a very short sentence.
As the intelligence community continues to wield excessive influence on our government, neither outcome is likely anytime soon.
Wolfgang Grupp is the sole owner of TRIGEMA, an old family-run company. Perhaps one of the few entrepreneurs who freely express their opinions without a government-imposed muzzle. What is unusual in this case is that he is not publicly antagonized despite his clear position. For me, he is the most honest voice of the German middle class of entrepreneurs. A courageous, argumentative and empathetic person who puts the old German values in the foreground. Hardworking, social and inovative.
From Gibraltar-Messenger:
The Nord Stream Pipeline Repair Dilemma
The Nord Stream Pipelines attack may end up being an environmental disaster to equal the Fukushima disaster, with the release of millions of cubic metres of methane-gas into the environment, from the attack and in an attempt to save the pipelines.
It has been reported that the Russians are having to maintain gas-flow through the Russian end of the pipelines to prevent seawater entering and starting a process that, once started, never ends – rusting. Rust never sleeps once it has started.
So, unless they have a tool for removing and killing the rust, they have two options:
[...]
The bottom-line of this is that only a satanic-lunatic would do something like this, and with satanic lunatics running the world, as they undoubtedly are, and doing things like Fukushima and the Nord Stream pipe destruction and future lunacies, it brings into play this Scripture reference:
Matthew 24:19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!
24:20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the Winter, neither on the Sabbath day:
24:21 For then shall be great oppression, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
24:22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the Elect’s sake those days shall be shortened.
Signed:
The Nord Stream Pipeline Repair Dilemma
The Nord Stream Pipelines attack may end up being an environmental disaster to equal the Fukushima disaster, with the release of millions of cubic metres of methane-gas into the environment, from the attack and in an attempt to save the pipelines.
It has been reported that the Russians are having to maintain gas-flow through the Russian end of the pipelines to prevent seawater entering and starting a process that, once started, never ends – rusting. Rust never sleeps once it has started.
So, unless they have a tool for removing and killing the rust, they have two options:
- Keep pumping gas through the pipelines and thus damage the marine life and the environment with massive amounts of released methane.
- Abandon the pipelines as being scrap, after costing billions to build, and laying new ones, that evil lunatics could also destroy.
[...]
The bottom-line of this is that only a satanic-lunatic would do something like this, and with satanic lunatics running the world, as they undoubtedly are, and doing things like Fukushima and the Nord Stream pipe destruction and future lunacies, it brings into play this Scripture reference:
Matthew 24:19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!
24:20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the Winter, neither on the Sabbath day:
24:21 For then shall be great oppression, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
24:22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the Elect’s sake those days shall be shortened.
Signed:
Christ, The King
Impactful video at link:
FLASHBACK - Putin Threatens Instantaneous Nuclear War If West Attacks Allies
The Immovable Object has spoken!
FLASHBACK - Putin Threatens Instantaneous Nuclear War If West Attacks Allies
Published on Mar 5, 2018
The Immovable Object has spoken!
Olivierlejardinier
Jedi Council Member
From Le Figaro (10-02-2022) and Military french sites :
War in Ukraine: Paris, Berlin, Copenhagen and Oslo will supply artillery guns to kyiv
The Ukrainian army could receive at least 6 “CAESAr” howitzers, initially intended for Denmark
In our meeting, my French counterpart @MinColonna and I focused on ways to hold Russia accountable for its crimes and France’s contribution to recovery of Ukraine’s war-torn regions. I presented the Kyiv Security Compact. We are also working on supplies of new CAESARs to Ukraine.
5:14 PM · 22 sept. 2022
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Mission accomplished...
It seems some US bigmoney is flowing through Ukraine in european arms industry's pockets!
War in Ukraine: Paris, Berlin, Copenhagen and Oslo will supply artillery guns to kyiv
The Ukrainian army could receive at least 6 “CAESAr” howitzers, initially intended for Denmark
In our meeting, my French counterpart @MinColonna and I focused on ways to hold Russia accountable for its crimes and France’s contribution to recovery of Ukraine’s war-torn regions. I presented the Kyiv Security Compact. We are also working on supplies of new CAESARs to Ukraine.
5:14 PM · 22 sept. 2022
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Mission accomplished...
It seems some US bigmoney is flowing through Ukraine in european arms industry's pockets!
The day when the news of the blown up pipelines was announced by the media, I immediately had the thought: 2 pipelines - 2 houses. Now I have found the appropriate picture.
USA kills its countrymen in 2001 to start more wars. Today USA destroys 2 pipelines to intensify a war and bleed Europeans. The silence in the media shows that this false flag has failed. Initial attempts to blame Russia lacked any logic. Here in Germany, there is no one in my environment who believes this story. One is faced with the mental challenge of having to accept something unbelievable: Our protector USA attacks its own allies. This leaves a big question mark in the minds and the question: Why? The German do-gooder tries to give his head a logical explanation but it does not work anymore. Many have now become skeptical and will very quickly switch fronts to Russia when the monthly bills for gas and electricity become unaffordable. I got the second increase in 3 months from my electricity provider yesterday. A year ago I was paying 24 cents/kwh. Today 91 cents/kwh. Now I have switched to a local provider: 27 cents/kwh. We have an electricity and gas mafia here.
USA kills its countrymen in 2001 to start more wars. Today USA destroys 2 pipelines to intensify a war and bleed Europeans. The silence in the media shows that this false flag has failed. Initial attempts to blame Russia lacked any logic. Here in Germany, there is no one in my environment who believes this story. One is faced with the mental challenge of having to accept something unbelievable: Our protector USA attacks its own allies. This leaves a big question mark in the minds and the question: Why? The German do-gooder tries to give his head a logical explanation but it does not work anymore. Many have now become skeptical and will very quickly switch fronts to Russia when the monthly bills for gas and electricity become unaffordable. I got the second increase in 3 months from my electricity provider yesterday. A year ago I was paying 24 cents/kwh. Today 91 cents/kwh. Now I have switched to a local provider: 27 cents/kwh. We have an electricity and gas mafia here.
That is the perfect picture! May it go viral!
Olivierlejardinier
Jedi Council Member
More economic sanctions,
The LME is examining the trail of an embargo on Russian metals. (french article) 10-03-2022
"The noose is tightening on Russian raw materials. After coal and oil, it will perhaps be the turn of metals to appear on a blacklist. The initiative does not come from the European Union, but from the London Metal Exchange (LME), the market that serves as a benchmark for prices worldwide. He wonders if and under what conditions he should ban deliveries of Russian metals in his vast network of warehouses around the world, revealed Bloomberg."
From LME site :
The London Metal Exchange is the world centre for the trading of industrial metals – the majority of all non-ferrous metal futures business is transacted on our platforms.
In 2021, 145 million lots were traded at the LME equating to $15.6 trillion and 3.3 billion tonnes notional, with a market open interest (MOI) high of 2.1 million lots.
A member of HKEX Group, the LME brings together participants from the physical industry and the financial community to create a robust and regulated market where there is always a buyer and a seller,
where there is always a price and where there is always the opportunity to transfer or take on risk – 24 hours a day.
The LME is examining the trail of an embargo on Russian metals. (french article) 10-03-2022
"The noose is tightening on Russian raw materials. After coal and oil, it will perhaps be the turn of metals to appear on a blacklist. The initiative does not come from the European Union, but from the London Metal Exchange (LME), the market that serves as a benchmark for prices worldwide. He wonders if and under what conditions he should ban deliveries of Russian metals in his vast network of warehouses around the world, revealed Bloomberg."
From LME site :
The London Metal Exchange is the world centre for the trading of industrial metals – the majority of all non-ferrous metal futures business is transacted on our platforms.
In 2021, 145 million lots were traded at the LME equating to $15.6 trillion and 3.3 billion tonnes notional, with a market open interest (MOI) high of 2.1 million lots.
A member of HKEX Group, the LME brings together participants from the physical industry and the financial community to create a robust and regulated market where there is always a buyer and a seller,
where there is always a price and where there is always the opportunity to transfer or take on risk – 24 hours a day.
Germany in War
Since Corona no longer interests anyone in Germany, our Health Minister Lauterbach suffers from the well-known symptoms of his attention deficit. As a doomsday prophet and pharmalobbyist, he no longer finds a hearing in the MSM. Now he has found a new field - our minister of health as minister of propaganda with the declaration of war against Russia : We are at war. At the last second he was thwarted by the "most incompetent defense minister Lambrecht". The even more malicious Ukrainian ambassador to Germany Melnyk again gives the unsolicited hint that Germany is of course at war with Russia and insinuates a hint of closeness to Putin to Lambrecht. Melnyk is the biggest warmonger here in Germany and was removed from his post because of outrageous statements here. Melnyk's behavior played a decisive role in the "German awakening," since many people only get green bile up at the sight of him.
Someone should explain this please: Russia is waging a perfidious war against Germany - not just an energy war. Minister Lauterbach states that: We are at war with Putin. Minister Lambrecht contradicts: Is Mrs. Minister at peace with Putin?
Oh dear........
Since Corona no longer interests anyone in Germany, our Health Minister Lauterbach suffers from the well-known symptoms of his attention deficit. As a doomsday prophet and pharmalobbyist, he no longer finds a hearing in the MSM. Now he has found a new field - our minister of health as minister of propaganda with the declaration of war against Russia : We are at war. At the last second he was thwarted by the "most incompetent defense minister Lambrecht". The even more malicious Ukrainian ambassador to Germany Melnyk again gives the unsolicited hint that Germany is of course at war with Russia and insinuates a hint of closeness to Putin to Lambrecht. Melnyk is the biggest warmonger here in Germany and was removed from his post because of outrageous statements here. Melnyk's behavior played a decisive role in the "German awakening," since many people only get green bile up at the sight of him.
Someone should explain this please: Russia is waging a perfidious war against Germany - not just an energy war. Minister Lauterbach states that: We are at war with Putin. Minister Lambrecht contradicts: Is Mrs. Minister at peace with Putin?
Oh dear........
