- You and others directly on the ground keep saying that you are shelled by russians and/or that the russians do bad things where you are or in other places. I would invite you to think about all the points I bring up here while you think about what you seem to be "seeing with your own eyes". Generally speaking, people in the thick of it, especially in such a war type environment/situation, are often convinced that what they assume to see on the ground "with their own eyes" is true and/or reflective of a larger picture. In fact, that is often not true.
- You and others directly on the ground, and also often armchair generals, keep saying and complaining about Russians leaving this or that area (or doing this or that "false/wrong" military or moral move here or there) and thereby leaving people into the hands of Ukraine monsters, here or there, for example. Here again, I think what is often missed in those accounts/assumptions/proclamations are all the previous mentioned points that I brought up above and ALSO, the following three simple facts:
First: Putin's number 1 mandate and priority is and will always be the well-being of RUSSIA itself and Russian people IN RUSSIA, which directly translates into Putin trying to minimize the suffering and death of those people, first and foremost, as good as possible (and therefore logically, of Russian service man). Every other consideration comes secondary to that priority for Putin, and rightly and justifiably so. Second: Free will; It isn't Putin's or Russia's fault nor is it their responsibility what happens to Ukrainians or Ukrainian territory. Putin's mandate and primary job is clear: the well-being of RUSSIA itself and Russians IN RUSSIA. What happens to Ukrainian land, Ukrainians and Ukrainian people is essentially none of his business and is primarily the result of the western hegemony over many decades AND the free will of a large portion of that country, that to one extent or the other, went along with that evil/satanic plan, right into the abyss, while another part resisted and appealed within their free will to Russia, to help them. The famous C's quote comes to mind "Only give to those who ask". And Putin and what he does is a perfect example of that IMO. Syria also asked. So, if you say "why do they leave" you should ask yourself "why wouldn't/shouldn't they?" while keeping all of the above points in mind at the same time! Third: It becomes more obvious by the day that Putin and co. have sketched out many plans and considerations over the years (which are constantly shifting and changing in some respects too) that are now implemented. It is always easy to forget that there might be pretty obvious and justified reasons for why Putin is doing this or that right now, which only becomes fully understandable in hindsight, because there were overarching plans/considerations that were not apparent at the moment they were first implemented/seen on the ground by outsiders to those plans/considerations.
The extent of the hypocrisy and cynicism here amazes me. Over the past few days of reading this thread, I have become convinced once again that fighting windmills is the stupidest and most depressing thing in the world.
Every day it is claimed here that all thinks and checks before writing anything, yet some posts are nothing more than fantasies and speculations of dreamers.
I really don't mean to insult or offend anyone, but I am bitter about it all.
Well, I've been declared schizophrenic, fine. You from other parts of the world know better what is going on in front of my eyes and in other places. And people's homes are destroying themselves, probably because they don't want to be part of Ukraine, not because someone is destroying them with rockets and hundreds of shells from rocket artillery, covering areas equal to several soccer fields - because that is exactly the "accuracy" of MLRS fire. I can't say that destroying 50 houses around just to try to cover one military facility or position is a justifiable move. And in that, Russian tactics are not much different than American or Ukrainian tactics. But of course you know better from Europe or Canada.
There's a lot more I would say, but I just don't see any point in it now. It doesn't interest anyone.
"The military operation was launched in order to do well for Russia, not to those whom they came to protect and liberate. The suffering of the Ukies and others because of the war the Russians started is only the problem of the Ukies and others. Russia has nothing to do with it."
Genius.
And the fact that they decide to leave the "liberated" territories over and over again, abandoning the inhabitants, is not a concern of Putin or the army, the Ukies live there, so they don't give a shit about them. In Krasny Liman, Izyum and Balakleya, too, there were only Ukies.
With Russian passports, but still nasty Ukies. And the fact that they were all promised that no one would leave them there and protect them doesn't mean anything and doesn't bind them to any responsibility.
What am I picking on here with my hundreds of thousands of tortured and brutally murdered inhabitants, Putin is shake up the Earth globe, here is a real show of care and mercy, here is a real movie. Not all these "little things of life".
That's a good to say, sitting on the comfort couch with popcorn.
If your rescuers had killed your children, just like that, with a rocket at night, for example, and the love ones of your friends - and you would have told yourself and them all that you justify in your messages. And what the hell with them, your dead children and all the rest too - the main thing is what they show on TV over there.
"Give only to those who ask."
I asked them to arrange it all. Is that it?
The residents of all those regions asked to be visited, to destroy their cities, and then to leave quietly, without burdening themselves in any way and without worrying about the consequences? Then, by this logic, the residents of Donetsk are asking to be killed on a daily basis.
If you decide to shake up the world and fight the hegemony of the one, then don't call all this crap "taking care of people and protecting them". And then there won't be any questions.
Again, this kind of hypocrisy is simply unacceptable to me.
Isn't that the most important lesson and choice: Who you are and what choices you make? If hundreds of thousands of souls mean nothing to someone, what can that say about such a person?
I know that suffering, loss and pain are inevitable and part of being. I know what forces rule the world. But you cannot explain this to all those who, by someone else's will, deprive them of everything.
Tell yourself that it is all right and very well if in the process those you love die and everything you have is destroyed and taken from you.
It's not attachment to the earth, it's just compassion and empathy. That's all it is.
And yet, in spite of everything, I continue to feel sympathy for Russia.
I will just read this forum, but I don't feel like writing anything here right now. Thank you for demotivating and distorting my words. That's what I came here for, I guess.
I'm sorry for barging in here with my "disorderly conduct" and disturbing you.
I sincerely wish everyone well.
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And the Italians, who are paying for energy and gas at exorbitant prices, where do they stand in this matter?
